@fleetskipper1810 When I was getting my B.A. in anthropology, my professors kept emphasizing that myths are always based on actual events - you have to take myths seriously, but with a grain of salt. Be prepared to make mistakes & don't let your ego get the better of you. Many scientists have very fragile egos & because of this, they don't like to admit they were wrong, thus preventing big discoveries like Troy. Oh, & BTW, a few years after I graduated with my B.A., then had to drop out of grad school to pay back my student loan, I'd been going to a psychiatrist for depression & anxiety (no surprise, since I couldn't finish my M.A. & Ph.D.) for meds & a psychologist for counseling. I once told the psychologist that all myths are based on actual events, & he immediately said: "No, they're not." I think he thought I was exhibiting "magical thinking", which is a common catchphrase shrinks use when one of their patients tries to think outside the box. He probably thought I was psychotic & was trying to get me to see that what I believed was all in my head. 🙄🙄🙄🙄I I was SO vindicated when archaeologists finally found Troy that if I'd remembered that a$$hole's name, I would've called him up & said: "Didn't you once tell me that myths were just fairytales & weren't based on facts? That's the mentality we're up against.

I don't think the video is claiming that the City of Troy is a myth, but rather that the story of the horse is. Whereas hard archaeology can show that Troy actually existed, we'll never know how factual the story about the horse is. I would have used the term "legend" to describe the story, but they chose "myth".

But "Maria's COZY CORNER", ON NOTRE-DAME WAS NOT A MYTH, BUT A 99YEAR LEASE,

The story was a myth proven to be based on a real thing.

Homor's myth was.

Is there a website to follow what has already been excavated?

@@kf877 although the stuff we found this year might take a while to be published lol

Sounds like a perfect job. I can’t wait to hear what’s been found, maybe we can correct the timeline on civilisation on this planet finally?!

@@diocles1743 Thank You!

I hope it is the truth about Albanian ancestors that everyone likes to deny their existence 😢

Says you... What are your sources? Who told you that? Give us a clue!

Do you have any sources? I’m actually asking bc I’d be fascinated to know more if that’s true!

Then why is Plato’s account the only one that exists? You also seem to forget that Plato wrote about a conversation between Solon and Croesus, even though they lived 300 years apart.

Thank you Faizan. It's amazing how many people shout 'prove it' when this is Ancient Egypt History 101.

@@Ibnafrika If it was Egyptian history, it would have been noted in Egypt somewhere. Plato's third-hand account wouldn't be the only source of the story.

The only similarities is that it was an advanced civilization that disappeared beneath the waves. I am not a scholar. I just read a lot. Atlantis while a myth, it does not match up with this city. Myth just mean no one alive saw it. I am sure in another 1000 yrs, many of today's knows will be called myths.

I thought Solon was Pluto's Grandfather x 5?

It all could be related, perhaps ... Helike, Atlantis, Santorini, all could have been taken down together ... or even when Vesuvius blew up, and took Pompei and Herculaneum, they are side by side countries. Who knows ?

Atlantian time age was 5k years before the egyptian. Egypt time age was like 5k years from now. (And if you would read the scrolls of thoth.. you would know they went from atlantis to egypt) So yeah this docu makes less sense to me to..

Indeed Atlantis is much older than a city around the greek times. This is only to poke up a story. Has nothing to do with Atlantis.

Poseidon doesn’t play games

They are bad historians. This city was destroyed when Plato was 60 years old and is only 40 miles from Athens. He wrote about Atlantis only 10 years after it was destroyed. Do you think he was mistaken? The greatest mind in history thought the town next door was a 10,000 year old civilization?

Part way thru the video, the link to Atlantis was discontinued. The title interested me due to my curiosity about Atlantis. The interesting story kept my attention to Helike, and I may not have watched it w/o the Atlantis mention.

what i thought just to have attention for this docu@@mlight7402

It's amazing how you all completely miss the point here. No one here is saying Helike IS Atlantis. The idea is that Helike INSPIRED Atlantis. Plato first included references to Atlantis in his works in the 360s BCE, right after Helike was destroyed. Isn't that an amazing coincidence? Obviously, Atlantis was never meant to be anything more than a fictional city to be mentioned in the equally fictional dialogues Plato wrote, and this fictional city was inspired by the real world city of Helike. Why did Plato use a fictional city of Atlantis instead of real world Helike? Because his fictional dialogue was set in the time of Solon, obviously long before Helike was destroyed, including Helike there would have been a massive anachronism. So Plato made up another city sunk beneath the waves, Atlantis, and used it to teach the same kind of moral lessons his contemporaries drew from the destruction of Helike. Helike is not Atlantis. Helike is what proves Atlantis is a fictional place created by Plato.

​@@frankvandorp9732 .The notion that Atlantis is a work of fiction is absurd. Nothing about the way it is written suggests that nor is there any evidence that such a genre of literature even existed and instead Plato goes to considerable lengths to explain where it came from. That's not fiction. The explicit prologue and the many fine details clearly serve no moral/fictional function - they are just facts. I don't know how anyone can actually read it and still repeat this silly nonsense. The scale of the disaster clearly isn't "inspired by" Santorini, Helike or anywhere else but ties up almost exactly with the mega tidal wave that hit north western Europe at the end of the Ice Age - which is now proven fact.

And is in Albania.

Thanks!

They redefined myth with this woke hysteria.

Was Turkey around back then too? 😂😂😂😂

​@@Zcrete55no, hisarlik, turkey of now was area of Troy back then

they did not talk in detail about Pluto's description and compare it to what they talking about ...

@@wisammoeali indeed!! What happened to the "Beyond Hercule's pillars"??? Selike doesn't come even close to those that are situated near the Gibraltar strait!

​@@classesanytime I agree with you, I read a lot about this issue I concluded that most people are trying to avoid being accused of pseudoscience adoption. till they find an evidence that suits mainstream archeology

Maybe because the 373bc wasnt the first time the city sank

That's just wrong, Plato was born in 427 BCE and died in 348 BCE, so in 373 BCE, when Helike was destroyed, Plato was 54 years old. Both Timaeus and Critias, the oldest mentions of Atlantis, were written by Plato after that point, around 360 BCE. Plato almost certainly was aware of the destruction of Helike in his own time, and it could very well have inspired his fictional lost city of Atlantis.

just like the egyptians built the pyramids 12500 years ago right

@@IRBry pyramids were built in the old kingdom on older sacred sights. Confirmed by papyrus found at wadi el jarf.

Silly argument considering that the character of Solon was invented by Herodotus centuries after Plato's account of Atlantis.

@@spiritualanarchist8162 Herodotus was dead before Plato was born. Go back to school

@@eggbert191 He may have been death, but stories in his name were written long after .

Kerguelen islands. French southern Antarctic lands .

I watch a yt video that said that Teresa a high chance Atlantis was in west Africa ,the Richard structure(I'm sure I'm spelling that wrong😂)

How so, please?

@@Joanna-il2ur Watch the clash of the titans.

@@m1k3droid awful film. They brought the kraken into it from Norse mythology.

@@Joanna-il2ur that is false. The Greek name for the same monster was Ketos, or in latin, Cetus, and it was was a monster of tremendous size and power in greek mythology. Of course in the Perseus myth, Keypheos and Queen Kassiopoeia were of Ethiopia. Ironically Cetus is the current scientific name for the genus of cetaceans (whales, dolphins etc) , and various toothed cetaceans like Sperm Whales and Orcas have been known to be aggressive toward humans in antiquity, so it is possible that Ketos was a sperm whale, which might explain what the "Head of Medusa" was: a giant squid, which is known to battle toothed whales and will prey on porpoises. However that analogy may just be projecting modern understanding onto an old myth

@@m1k3droid Yep. I know the myth although some place her at Jaffa. Still no idea what that has to do with Atlantis. Or the movie, where they imported the kraken.

Hm..interesting

Your comment is known as the "I didn't watch the video but I still have an opinion about what I think it says" argument.

@@frankvandorp9732 I won't leave comments on videos that I do not watch. However, I'll admit that at the end when they go into credits or summaries, sometimes I will skip that part. Also, I skip any commercials.

@@archangel_one But you did not watch this video. Otherwise, you would have known your comment is dishonest and doesn't even resemble what the video actually stated.

@@frankvandorp9732 Okay, you win, it is ATLANTIS! I can't wait until they find the Stargate!

Check out ............. Lost Roman Map has ATLANTIS at Eye of Sahara Africa! (Richat Structure)

Nope not old enough!

@@LuciferMornStar Exactly. Any talk of this being Atlantis is nonsense.

Plato was 60 and 40 miles away when the city was destroyed.... I do not think he made a mistake.

He spoke of a civilisation much older as the one of Egypt so every comparison with Atlantis is far fetched.@@patrickf9217

Facts facts facts

Oh yes, many cities sunk beneath the waves.

Exactly!!! elike would be destroyed while Plato is still alive also others would know it as well so no one would buy his tale also he stated that he got the tale from Solon who lived almost 200 years earlier(187) than elike-s destruction this "Documentary" is horseshit also it's nothing like atlantis was described and what she found at best an odler settlement with a few houses not a city.... with a temple of poseidon.... where is the temple??? And tempels weren't tiny where are the columns :,D no greek temple were made a row (or multiple row) of ornate pillars.

What about shelike

You don't get it, no one is saying Helike IS Atlantis. Helike is what inspired Plato to create the fictional tale of Atlantis. Plato knew Helike, and suddenly, right after Helike was destroyed, he started including references about another city lost between the waves into his fictional dialogues. It's not hard to connect the dots there.

@@maszkalman3676 " no one would buy his tale also he stated that he got the tale from Solon who lived almost 200 years earlier" It's called fiction. No one needed to "buy" his tale, because he never intended to pass it off as real history in the first place. Plato and his contemporaries were shocked by the destruction of Helike, and Plato drew upon those experiences to invent another fictional city that sank beneath the waves, Atlantis. Obviously, because his fictional dialogue was set in the past in the time of Solon, he couldn't have used Helike itself, that still existed in the time of Solon. So he invented a fictional city.

Yeah everyone would know that.

Bright Mind! Copy of my comment: 🌊 "Atlantis is not myth, the location has been found": Atlantis, as described by Plato, is now strongly theorized to be "the Eye of the Sahara". It supports Plato's description on each point. As time and Climate Change took place, the Sahara, once a lush green plane of vegetations, lakes, people, and animals, the area became desert, and the arrid climate evaporated the water, leaving a variety of finds throughout the vast desert. The "Eye of the Sahara is back draped by the Atlas Mountains, its rings observable, wirh scattered remains of red, white, and black stones. Artifacts would be rare, as the water would havw carried them in various directions. Landscapes change over tume but Lidar allows us to see the dry lake beds and water routes, and one that leads into the circular features of this location. Although I feel Atlantis was a far wider reaching Civilization, one that encompassed a variety of Islands, very possibly including the Atlantic Ridge, and even stretching west to areas of the Americas, I've really little doubt that the "Eye of the Sahara" is the location of Plato's description and over time had come to serve as the Capital of Atlantis, the Civilization's point or orgin and its "Washington DC". 🔺In time this will be validated, slow due to "Mainstream Academics" Egos and resistance. 🔺In time "Mainstream Academia" and their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline" will be replaced by "Authentic Academia" whom adhere to the "Standards of Science and Research" which prohibits using a Theory as Fact, and we will have Freedom of Thought, for Exploration and Discoveries. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian (an "Authentic Academic")

Thanks for the insightful comment😌let us hope we can uncover as much as possible 🤞

I agree, it's tragic that we are on the trend of losing grounds to explore rather than gaining them, but we still are developing new technologies to explore what is hidden both on land & beneath the sea. I have hopes for these technologies answering many of the questions we have now. Unfortunately, as far as excavations go to get into the minuet details of the sites, that's unlikely to occur in our lifetimes. Then again, even when the climate shifts to a new ice age, most of these archaeological sites in the Northern hemisphere will be ground to mud by glaciation. Whether our species will survive that long, survive whatever causes the start of an Ice Age or still reside on this planet is hard for us to know at this point.

Thank you for watching!

Thank YOU for posting interesting and _NEW_ content! Appreciate the reply. Have a great weekend!

Do you accept the discoveries of Ron Wyatt? I find them more interesting. Do you think that if Poseidon is the Greek equivalent of the Minoan Dagon that the Greek Government is not going to put a lid on any archeological findings that vilify Minoan religious practice?

That's why I think it is the eye of Africa it's not west but Plato never said west. Plus a Roman map shows Atlantis people at the eye of Africa. Mountains to the north same size frash water in the center. Same kind of rocks and mining materials.

No the iliad is a MYTH with all caps sinc eit was written as a play but contains real world events just films that says "based or real events" they are still fictional

Plato was alive and 40 miles away when the city was destroyed. He was 60 years old when this city was destroyed. He probably saw it happen

no, no question remains. if you're referring to atlantis, that was a no before the video even began. plato write it was in the atlantic west of gibralter, so no question remains. helike was never atlantis because helike was helike.

@@matthewhayes3142 Plato never ever said west of Gibraltar never ever ever , Of course Helike was Helike

Prove that it's fictional... There is a site in Africa that was at sea level at the time of Atlantis and matches the discription almost 100% as well as the isolated local native population having the same historical mythos as the kingdom of Atlantis down to incredible detail. It is the only site to match the major 10 or more major points that describe Atlantis. Many of those are very unique on their own. Let alone combined with more than two others. Some of the points are completley unique as far as we know and still shared by one single site in both the myth and the Eye of the Sahara. The only point that does not match is that they can't prove if any of the springs were warm or "hot" water springs, but they know the area was a giant volcanic formation so it very well could have had thermal activity at the time. While he used the end results of the story as a warning, that doesn't mean the city or the destruction was fictional.

Your professor must be soooo proud of you!

@@RM-yf2lu It's almost as if conjumonblue6450 copied and pasted that comment out of an online textbook and never once considered vetting the information for themselves. Ah, our modern scholastic indoctrination system: where regurgitation of textbooks/woke liberalism/racism are the highest ideals, mixed into a cesspool with scientific facts--a place where critical thought and scientific method go to die and sheeple can't vet their uninspected worldview because the system encourages the deification of ignorant authority figures.

​@@jacobnash9755can you tell where the area is located in Africa, like South, East or North?

Not so fast Blue6450 .... I have visited Santorini, and it is a bloody big hole surrounded on the outskirts by fragments of the original island. Whether is was Atlantis, or not, it was a huge terrible explosion and island collapse, you wouldn't have wanted to be there. Ancient rumours and stories can be based in fact. It could have been an allegory too, but we really don't know.

It is probably unlikely that Atlantis was in the Corinthian Gulf, but Helike absolutely was.

@@sallyreno6296 Atlantis was in the Aegean absolutely as was Helike most probably and unlikely in the Corinthian gulf

Earthquakes happened all over the Eastern Mediterranean.

Same goes for Egypt and Morocco it's definitely somewhere between Morocco/spain

@@jasminesaiki4002 No Jasmine,Atlantis was in Greece

Yes Jasmine you are right, it was somewhere in the Mediterranean between what is now Spain and Morocco and where we have the Atlas mountains in the regions of North Africa. It is no mystery, it is all in the words

@@nadiaa2748 Wrong

Actually, it very likely has been found! Copy of my comment: 🌊 "Atlantis is not myth, the location has been found": Atlantis, as described by Plato, is now strongly theorized to be "the Eye of the Sahara". It supports Plato's description on each point. As time and Climate Change took place, the Sahara, once a lush green plane of vegetations, lakes, people, and animals, the area became desert, and the arrid climate evaporated the water, leaving a variety of finds throughout the vast desert. The "Eye of the Sahara is back draped by the Atlas Mountains, its rings observable, wirh scattered remains of red, white, and black stones. Artifacts would be rare, as the water would have carried them in various directions. Landscapes change over tume but Lidar allows us to see the dry lakebeds and water routes, and one that leads into the circular features of this location. Although I feel Atlantis was a far wider reaching Civilization, one that encompassed a variety of Islands, very possibly including the Atlantic Ridge, and even stretching west to areas of the Americas, I've really little doubt that the "Eye of the Sahara" is the location of Plato's description and over time had come to serve as the Capital of Atlantis, the Civilization's point or orgin and its "Washington DC". 🔺In time this will be validated, slow due to "Mainstream Academics" Egos and resistance. 🔺In time "Mainstream Academia" and their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline" will be replaced by "Authentic Academia" whom adhere to the "Standards of Science and Research" which prohibits using a Theory as Fact, and we will have Freedom of Thought, for Exploration and Discoveries. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian (an "Authentic Academic")

They clearly stated the ground subsided. Only the tops of trees were visible.

@@edbruder9975 around what time in video?

Because the story was told orally from the times when our ancestors were ratlike creatures:) Pangaea was formed around 350 millions years ago start splitting 220 mil ya with last major split around 60-50 mil ya at that time we were primates, hominidae emerge 30-40 mil years after, Homo sapiens 300,000 ya and first signs of behavioral modernity around 80,000-25,000 ya so no don't explains "the similar architecture, technologies and mythologies previously separated by by oceans and oceans of time".

Wow, I never heard any of that before.. Thank you for educating me in what is common knowledge for anyone curious enough to have read it for themselves some decades ago.. And I don't have the time or inclination to explain what should be obvious beyond I don't accept the current scientific explanation of our history, that it has only begun fairly recently.. Think of Atlantis disappearing in a day and a night in geologic terms. Tens of millions or hundreds of millions of years could be seen as a day and a night and like every other animals on Earth humans have changed every time the Earth's climate other factors have changed.. @@sturzuus

Are you aware of Richat, Mauritania possibly being the site of Atlantis? Compelling argument.

at the time plato wrote of the lost civilization, atlantis had been part of history for 4000 years.

Found this. It seems to match Plato's descriptions; and tallies with ancient maps; and geographical features. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sJ-QmoOaioKhmIU.html

Richat, Mauritania might be a better story.

Well, well somebody with vision