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well to be honest from the name “vision **pro**” it’s probably not intended for the avg. consumer, so probably for a dedicated person, yes, they might get it, but the for the average customer they probably wouldn’t, in the first place, it’s not intended for them

@@hundredandten 😂

This DEFINITELY won’t be for the masses

exactly. premium product for a premium price.

Yup!!! Just like 2D computer screen began in the 1970s, 3D computing began from 2010 and around 2030, it will blow to the entire world just like how personal computer skyrocketed in the 1990s and smartphones flooded in 2010s.

I've been able to do the same things in my vr headset since 2019..

That is called marketing

⁠@@RainbowCuganah you haven’t been able to. Who are you kidding?

They are so mature that they let themselves be swayed by money where for 10x cheaper they have oculus

Really sounds like Mr Garrison

I was gonna comment this too 😂😂😂

dude why blow 4000 dollars for a useless goofy looking vr headset honestly just go to a movie theater

@@ilikedogs9111Who cares about the price. It’d be worth it in my opinion

Facts I have a vr headset and that gives me a headache after 10mins

@@ilikedogs9111 bECAUSE IT LOOKS COOL

@@jakefox3677 thats from shotty refresh rates.

Tim Cook was there - at the side of the stage, with bodyguards. He walked-on to speak to the audience at the beginning - but then let the videos play for the rest of WWDC.

Why are t they doing live videos with people?

@@emirates247 Because they like doing these sweeping cinematic style video launches, now. It means they can record multiple takes and cut it all together with a bunch of production, instead of just having Tim and his execs walking on and off a stage, which lets them tell the brand story the way they want to, today. Steve died and with him, so did the showmanship of one iconic figure standing on a stage showing off the latest and greatest. One more thing to mourn, for us, I suppose. :(

Hi Steve!

How do you get accepted

Is anyone one allowed to buy tickets for this Show?

You have to be an influencer i guess

I am clearly not an influencer. You apply through the developer site and get selected randomly.

Watching people use their pocket screens to record an outdoor screen. I wish they would bring back live presentations.

I totally agree. Seeing an engineer on stage doing a technical demo is what it should always be. They announced a product and didn’t even demo it. Imagine if they announced the iPhone and didn’t demo it.

@@PlymitBoy After reading your comment. Yeah this project is totally a promise rather than product currently. Although 1 key difference is that it might look weird to most people as 1 person wearing that headset and people cannot experience in anyway. Could be landmine of memes. Whatever, But you’re right. Product demos should be demos.

Yeah I was about to say. What’s the point of going all the way there when it’s marginally different from a UKposts premiere. The Steve Jobs keynotes are timeless but this is just meh.

No, he was there - and was on-stage earlier. They obvs don't want to risk the Murphy's Law of Live Demos though, as Steve Jobs did. So he was standing to the side of the stage while the video pres played to launch Vision Pro.

You also have to remember Steve Job Theater only holds a certain amount of attendees. This enables them to bring in many more guests. And who wouldn’t want to visit Apple Park? The outer circumference of the main building is a mile!

100%@@hummersd Steve Jobs Theatre only holds 1000.

Could just use an iPhone 15.....

@@ARstralianor an iPhone 3gs but that wasn’t the point

@@lamar6482He meant about the iphone 15 because you can record spatial videos also with iphone 15pro/promax

@@lamar6482no buddy, iPhone 15 Pro can record spatial, so it’s better than using a Vision Pro since they only would barely last through the duration of the event. Also easier to hold and record with.

Right like as the events happening you could visually see the product infront of you and stuff, sounds cool if they do that

Love it

Historical? Its just another lame overpriced apple product

I’m not saying Vision Pro will succeed, but I’d like to point out that I remember these exact same things being said about iPhone in 2007.

The iphone was innovative and original, of course it will succeed. The vision pro is just another lame apple product@@AGoodVibe

@@crazywarp36 Everyone holds their own perspective, and I appreciate and respect that. It'll be intriguing to revisit your comment in the future, gaining insight into what the world will be like then 😊

JBL sound system AKA Samsung speakers

​@@emu256 How do you know it's JBL?

@@lilmario0 anyone who is serious about sound uses JBL. just go to any concert and you'll see JBL speakers.

They aim to perfect the price by keeping it at the highest price where consumers will still buy it, so basically ∞

@@ulize. Not necessarily true. They, as a capitalistic company, still follow theories of microeconomics. For their high end machines, they have basically a monopoly so they charge outrageous prices. However, for the iPhones and whatnot, you’ll notice that many high end Android phones nowadays basically cost the same or even more.

@@JoeARedHawk275 that's true that most high-end Androids are the same price, but that doesn't excuse the fact that Apple doesn't provide many budget options. Even their lowest priced products are higher priced than other companies products. The cheapest new iPhone you can buy from Apple directly is $450; meanwhile, you can buy a Samsung A03s for $160. Yes, the A03s isn't a higher quality phone, but Apple could easily provide a super-budget option phone but they don't. Same with their laptops: the cheapest MacBook Air starts at $1k, but you could totally get a different laptop for cheaper than that if you went with Windows.

*perfection*haha, beta tester complaining neck pain bc that thing is huge

@@camialehIt's almost the same size as the Quest?

It is new. There is no other device like this in the market. Pass-through on Quest or VIVE etc isn't in the same universe as what they've done on AVP. It is a device to focus on 'experience and content' rather than form-factor. There will be more 'VisionOS devices' to come which will likely be waveguide instead of pass-through video - but the standard for content and interaction (gestural/voice/foveal) will be set by the AVP initially. The device isn't perfect by a long way, yet - but APPLE have opted for content and UX over what you put on your face. It's a gutsy move. I suspect it will pay off. People will pay for experiences.

Dude, no offense, but you've bought into apple marketing so hard. Everything this headset does has been done already. For way cheaper. There's literally no reason to support apple in the endeavor. They're insane to think people should pay that price when we've had comparable headsets for ages at a way lower price point. It's not the future, it's the fucking past. My god. Get your head out of your ass.

It was WWDC and wasn't all on a screen (was hybrid with Tim Cook speaking on stage for a bit and then on-screen etc). After the presentation, we could sit down with the leaders of divisions (eg Vision Group) and talk to tham about products and opportunities. And then there were developer sessions when you could preview the build features etc. Plus we could get up close with the device (not to try-on though, unfortunately). And then all the usual WWDC stuff.

It's a lottery, to get tickets to WWDC (mid-year) where they often do their biggest announcements. You generally have to be a registered and paid-up Apple Developer and you'll get the comms to apply in the lead-up. For their other events, it's official media only.

How would you be able to? Theyre taking photos for memories and clapping because they are cheering.

No, the Steve Jobs theatre is too small to host these sorts of events now - hence they have built the semi-outdoor stage and big screen adjacent to the dining district in Apple Park. The outside venue is fairly scalable for seating.

The theatre only has 1000 seats and Apple has 12000 staff at this one site alone. So if they want to do an all-hands meeting, they need the space.

They did this was a remote thing

As a video, sure. But IRL, Tim Cook was at the side of the stage and Craig Federighi was front row + a lot of the leadership were there, upfront too.

It the guys were on stage, the crowd might thr0w tomatoes at them.

Pure luck, mostly. Gotta be a registered Apple Dev - and then you just apply when they open it up around April/May.

There weren't many 'XR industry' people at the event. Only around 5 that I counted. But the XR industry is used to paying $$$ for wearable computing. Hololens2 still retails for around $3640 USD.

They don't tend to use the Steve Jobs theatre so much these days - it was a perfect day - so they did it on their big outdoor auditorium that faces their 'dining district'

this is super diverse for anything IT. Usually it's 98% of 3 types of man.

Women wouldn't wear a big heavy metal thing on their heads, right?

Nope - Google had a very basic Samsung Gear VR style HMD called Daydream and that’s where they stopped. They were heavy investors in Magic Leap however, but haven’t taken that further (much to ML’s disappointment I suspect). There are rumours they were working on a stereoscopic AR HMD to launch round the time of Vision Pro, but given the turmoil in their AR/VR teams, it seems unlikely. There are other headsets out there that are utilising Snapdragon Spaces (and chips) however, so there will be Android offerings. Just not from Google for a while, I suspect.

@@ARstralian No sorry I had to look up the name of it, it was called Google Glass that they tried out about 10 years ago. I remember the teaser video seemed pretty similar to this one with the AR features. Hopefully the vision pro will work out better, I have wanting good AR ever since I saw the Google Glass teaser.

I actually had one of the first Google Glass units and wore it for a couple of years. It was a heads-up-display that projected a screen into a prism just above your eye. The little bit of foil at the end of the prism used to peel off during even a mildly humid day - so I had to have mine replaced a couple of times. This form factor comes under a category called ‘assisted reality’ which, these days, is led by companies like Realwear and is used widely in Enterprise. Glass definitely didn’t have the ability to run ARcore and anchor a 3D scene to the real world environment. Vision Pro is far, far more advanced and is ground-up designed for anchored, persistent fully-real-time 3D content.

@@ARstralian "Vision Pro is far, far more advanced and is ground-up designed for anchored, persistent fully-real-time 3D content" And you know this from slick marketing videos. Yes?

No, I know it from being in the industry for 13 years, from knowing people who worked on the development of VisionPro at Apple and from sitting in on the VisionOS Developer sessions at WWDC + speaking to the Apple Vision Dept team@@DerekDavis213

Price isn’t great - but Apple sold $300m in 15 mins the other day. If you can charge it, why wouldn’t you? Simple supply and demand economics.

It was exciting to be there, in the crowd. Plus we got to meet and spend time with the dedicated team inside Apple, and we got to view the product (but not try it!😤) 1:1.

@@ARstralian Yeah I guess that’s pretty cool but as someone on the east coast I would not travel to sit in front of a screen you get me?

As someone who travelled from Australia on a 15 hour flight to be there, I totally get you. Luckily, AWE2023 was just down the road in Santa Clara the week before - so I went to that too. The video presentations would have been fine, if we at least had been able to try it on. I know just about every WWDC guest felt a little let-down that we weren't given that chance@@1993MAZDAMIATA

@@ARstralian yeah for sure a bit of a fu to everyone who came. The least they could do is play a 10 second demo it is not like there were that many people there.

It’s the kick-off of the annual developer’s conference. If the event was live, very few would be able to attend as the theater only holds so many, so they’d have to have another space anyhow. This allowed them to bring in developers, media, influencers, etc. Who wouldn’t want to go into Apple Park? It’s not open to the public, nor can employees bring in guests.

It’s called a lisp

No-one paid. It’s WWDC so it’s an invite-only event at Apple Park which includes lots of developer sessions and meet & greets with Apple leaders - and it’s kind of ‘all you can eat’ at the Apple kitchens as well. The keynote is only a very small part of the event. And Tim Cook was there and spoke on-stage - but left it to the video to do the official Vision Pro announcement and to feature visuals of the product.

wtf are you talking about? it's 100% virtual, virtual does not mean three dimensional

@@JC-nl3nh bro, virtual reality is meant to be 3d Why else would anyone virtually use an interface to take three dimensional space.?!? To watch a 2D SCREEN or a movie!?! WHEN YOU CAN JUST USE A FLAT SCREEN TV?!?!? It’s like watching a screen close to your face

you said that flat is not virtual, which is bullshit because virtual has nothing to do with 3 dimensions @@_casg

This is not the 2023rd year of humanity. The years are numbered after the birth of some religious guy about 2020 years ago, and there were many other years before that.

@@RZ302 hence i did the quotation mark fam! because ofcourse some guy showed up ... from the sky .. he created us all. makes sense

its just a fanbase like any other

@@cock4446 a fanbase gets entertained, a cult follows blindly what the leader does, people are willing to spend thousands every year just to get the newest model, people even sleep on the floor whenever a new iphone gets released, you CAN'T be a fan of a company.

???

Joe Rogan agreed

The way they all mindlessly gasp and cheer at the same time 😬 looks like they’re all dumb npc’s and paid actors. Blind apple sheep 🐑🤡

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Apple were very sensitive to the reaction and loyalty of all of their developers - to ensure that they didn't balk at the challenge of having to learn a new skillset. 'Spatial Computing' is also a term that has been used for a long time by the XR industry. I believe Apple want to create a new lexicon of terminology that is tied to the Apple brand - and bring the XR industry on the journey. Without going so far as to associate it with a term that has so much existing baggage, like 'Metaverse' or a confusing term like 'Mixed Reality'.

Its a dev conference. You have a tour around, chat with others, meet with the apple teams, take in person looks of new products and have a time.

@@solidsnakeXY810 Ok still I would expect someone to be up there like a real human and explain it to everyone. Might aswell just publish a trailer on some youtube channel or something. Hmm.

A LOT. It's a huge campus.

@@ARstralian Isn't is just a big ring, only 5 floors? The center of the ring is EMPTY of people.

@@DerekDavis213 sure - but it’s a really, really big ring. And there are satellite buildings all around it as well. 2.8 million feet and 12000 staff.

@@ARstralian Yes there are lots of satellite buildings around the Sunnyvale and Cupertino area, but we are talking about the HQ. And the HQ building is only 460 meters in diameter. You want to talk about a BIG building? Look at the Pentagon. It dwarfs the Apple Spaceship HQ.

I work in IT and the tech guyz at work just sc0ff at 4k for a headset. ha

you will still buy it because it's fu*king APPLE bro

@@peak_911 I'm team android moron

awwwwww don't say its overpriced just because you can't afford to buy it. its ok. things will get better for you. just get a job and save some money so you can buy one. then you don't have to complain on youtube videos about it anymore.

@@user-hj1rs2pk8o 🤣