Are Electric Turbos a SCAM?
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At a topic meeting, someone pitched the idea of electric turbos. But we can't make an episode on those. There isn't any science, they're a classic eBay power-promising scam. Everyone knows that. Mighty Car Mods did a video on them like 10 years ago and proved it. But wait... cleetus made a video and did make power with an electric turbo. And Audi has a car going into production that uses what they call an "e-turbo"? And actually, every car on the F1 grid uses an electrically assisted turbocharger? So, they work? How? And why did this piece of tech go from totally-a-scam to inside every engine in the pinnacle of motorsport?
This simple idea is popping up all over the place. But why now?
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@Azureisfun 3 роки тому
"And I did what any mature adult would do.. and I fired their asses for insubordination."
@freddy1172 3 роки тому
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@userseveneleven 3 роки тому
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@andyrobbinnit5995 3 роки тому
4min of performance with a 40min recovery? Sounds about right for most of us!
@AimForTheBushes908 2 роки тому
Underrated comment
@toyotasupra1141 2 роки тому
tbh yes, I am willing to just daily and drive normally 40 minutes, for 4 minutes of solid pulls.
@dallaswood4117 Рік тому
@@toyotasupra1141 bro the OP isn’t talking about cars lol
@airsoftfortoday2397 Рік тому
@@dallaswood4117 omg...
@ponte1835 Рік тому
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@transam4889 3 роки тому
So, the nitrous in Need for speed should have been called Electric Turbo and that would explain the need to wait for recharge while driving
@doorjam8793 2 роки тому
You smart
@paraxo7192 Рік тому
the recharge time is me blowing really hard with a straw in the tanks
@rogehmarbi Рік тому
If you think about it the nitrous (and by extension, turbos) in NFS games were already powered by electricity
@alexbare7181 9 місяців тому
@@rogehmarbiyou need to think less bro
@rasec1889 5 місяців тому
epic win 🤣
@ickess 3 роки тому
Anyone else thinking of old driving game’s where you hit the turbo button and it only last like 5 seconds but takes 10 seconds to recharge? This is it IRL
@danlyons4602 3 роки тому
Excite bike nes.
@MrManerd 3 роки тому
@@danlyons4602 Yes well where can I get one?
@TB-hv2ew 3 роки тому
Ps2 NFS days LOL good memories
@GhostZodick 3 роки тому
That's not turbo, that's N2O boost
@MrManerd 3 роки тому
@@GhostZodick He's saying that N2O doesn't recharge IRL but this does, so it's more like what they have in games.
@roushstge2 3 роки тому
“I wasn’t wrong, I just wasn’t right” Jerry Berry 2021 I’m gonna have to use that line
@ritawant9492 3 роки тому
Come
@jerryedwards6777 3 роки тому
That's what my friends call me lol
@RawenWarCrow 3 роки тому
That's my life motto
@thesebas3090 3 роки тому
That just blow my mind
@roushstge2 3 роки тому
@@jerryedwards6777 ha so I tapped you pic cause you kinda looked like the real Jerry from your small thumbnail... bro we follow pretty much all the same accounts lol
@KennyThaSharp 3 роки тому
"So i did what any adult would do, and that is: admit my mistake" Most of twitter: **what kind of witchery is this**
@joejia1410 3 роки тому
meanwhile on the dark side of Reddit: **what is this reasonable man talking about**
@ShawnSavageTeachings 3 роки тому
Or the entire human population 🤣
@maarten332 3 роки тому
"This man is clearly a wizard!"
@rottondog1473 Місяць тому
The kind that allows him to say it with a straight face...
@juanjmolina 3 роки тому
and that electric spinny boy wanna be goes "IN THE BIN" (MCM reference)
@oscarflores1472 2 роки тому
Yooo I had the same thought when I heard MCM!!!
@johncottrell2464 3 роки тому
Thank you for being the first person to ever address the parasitic losses of a turbo!!! yes I understand they are more efficient, but I'm sick of people saying it's free power haha. love your videos!!
@ryano8613 2 роки тому
Ain't nothin free but MUUURICA....WAIT.
@blk77sunshn 2 роки тому
Nothings FREE ! BUT, they sure do make a lot of POWER !
@BigUriel Рік тому
It's actually complicated, depends on the operating point of the turbo and how well optimized the engine was to work with it. Turbos cause losses via an increase in exhaust manifold pressure, this pressure is pushing down on the pistons during the exhaust stroke and trying to slow them down. Exactly the same way a supercharger is pulling on the crank hub trying to slow it down. But the exhaust gases are still expanding from the combustion, and when this expansion happens *in* the turbine then the turbo is using energy that would simply have blown right out the exhaust (the exhaust gases simply come out cooler). If the turbo is being used in its peak efficiency zone then you get more "free" energy from the expansion of the exhaust gases than you lose from the backpressure in the exhaust manifold, and the turbo actually increases overall engine efficiency (one of the ways in which turbocharged engines can achieve better fuel consumption). When you push a turbo past it's peak efficiency range though the losses caused by the backpressure can outweigh the gains in the gases expanding in the turbine. This is usually how modded turbocharged cars operate, and why they generally get shit fuel efficiency - an OEM turbo operates at peak efficiency while a modded turbo operates at peak airflow (or as close to it as the tuner can get). An electric supercharger is always a net energy loss when actually used to compress air - it takes more energy to generate the electricity to drive the supercharger than the energy you get back in the compressed air when you power it. However an electric supercharger can use electricity that was produced, for example, by charging the battery during decceleration, like a regenerative braking of sorts, so you're powering the supercharger with energy that you were going to throw away anyway.
@christophersexton4192 Рік тому
TLDR
@george8966 8 місяців тому
The battery only charges when the alternator is charging at over 13.8v so really there is no loss as the battery does not charge when the engine is under load. Sure there technically is parasitic loss but you would never notice this driving because it charges up when the alternator is already putting out that electricity and if you don't use it is gone.
@alphagrizz1261 3 роки тому
There’s nothing like seeing a small little Honda Civic barreling down the road with a turbo
@lc8438 3 роки тому
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@HaltonLax44 3 роки тому
Actually that's incorrect. There was nothing like my 24 VR6 turbo GLI barrelling down the road, because it was quite literally that fast. It was like seeing nothing.
@coldmoonlight6361 3 роки тому
I raced a turbo EK hatch in a STOCK AUTOMATIC 1995 Subaru Legacy sedan to about 70mph. He didn't get past my front bumper.
@swish2519 3 роки тому
@@coldmoonlight6361 u probably raced a single cam d or z series with a ebay turbo on 3-5 lbs of boost, no shit it's not gonna be fast when done like that lol, race a k or b seires on 15+ psi and u would get walked
@Ed-qr7kz 3 роки тому
@@swish2519 relax
@AdmiralBosch19 3 роки тому
Talk about Turbonique drag axles and turbines and whatever else as long as you're talking about unconventional power mods.
@JointMasterJ 3 роки тому
Yes!
@kratos948 3 роки тому
Hamster powered
@gabrielulibarri9950 3 роки тому
You should totally listen to Brian Lohnes Dork-o-motive podcast! He does an episode on that!
@johnsheetz6639 3 роки тому
Whooeeee! 🤘
@dallasgladney5598 3 роки тому
Yes 💯
@EliSchuette 3 роки тому
I love this video. It's very well presented, and it packs lots of tough concepts into an easily understood illustration. In the future, though, can you please add links to the sources that you used to present this data?
@Nikomarii 3 роки тому
The intro bit this episode was by far one of the best ones I've seen. Talking about where your ideas come from is a really good hook into the video. Great job and GREAT intro!
@lesstoxic5619 3 роки тому
Electric turbo:**exists** Tesla owners:finally I can get into tuner's scene
@ritawant9492 3 роки тому
Now
@coldmoonlight6361 3 роки тому
Clever
@caralho5237 3 роки тому
a turbo would be great for cooling a tesla
@anthxny3925 3 роки тому
forced induction on the battery 🔥
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@glowtail3744 3 роки тому
I can imagine seeing someone with an electric turbocharged civic barring down the road
@GhostOfDamned 3 роки тому
Nah
@joebloe4949 3 роки тому
😂😂
@john-martin 3 роки тому
Or a v8 mustang or camaro with a twin setup 😂
@WorkPlayDrive 3 роки тому
You may as long as he hasn't spent his 4 minutes of boost doing the Snap Crackle & Pop in the Walmart parking lot ;0
@jamesvancam 3 роки тому
Barreling?* and lol
@Dizman32 3 роки тому
We need a Donut and MCM colab series in the near future!
@PghGingerKid 3 роки тому
And all videos would be shown at #AMC theaters.
@kicknsystm 3 роки тому
I saw something a couple years ago how someone hooked up a power inverter to a leaf blower to create forced air induction. It worked. A big issue was air temperature because the leaf blower produces very warm air which of course is counter productive. He did increase his power a noticeable amount though.
@steveswede8162 2 роки тому
There isn't a leaf blower out there that will put out how much air an engine would need at anything higher than an idle
@anastasisparastatidis5479 3 роки тому
9:05 "...To your buds, or your girls..." "Or your buds' girls" I died laughing😂😂😂
@ritawant9492 3 роки тому
Now the
@cadecarp11 3 роки тому
Rip
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F
@ride_nebraska3787 3 роки тому
I absolutely love the fact that you can just say, "Cleetus video" and 99% of viewers know what you're talking about
@christaphersimmons2216 3 роки тому
Ruby holds world records no Motorhead missed that pass
@chasedwar2 3 роки тому
Who’s Cleetus?
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Woah i must be really lucky to land in that 99% of people
@jjOnceAgain 3 роки тому
@@christaphersimmons2216 I feel like I'm finally part of the 1%, then xD
@glockmat 3 роки тому
Gotta love how he didn't mention F1 turbos, despite those also being this type of half eletric half traditional turbos with the MGU-H
3 роки тому
There are turbos with e-motor between turbine & compressor (connected on the shaft via e-clutch), it has 2 tasks: 1) "recuperating overboost" - slowing down the turbo & generating electricity. 2) spooling up the turbo to avoid lag. It's used in mainly in track cars, known as MGU-h
@michaelhenry4181 3 роки тому
“I wasn’t wrong in that meeting, I just wasn’t right. There’s a difference.” Lmao best quote I’ve heard all year
@TeslaMaster2 3 роки тому
"I wasn't wrong, I just wasn't right!" I think I found my new life motto. Thanks, Jerry.
@AutoFly 3 роки тому
Great video! In my opinion, the eturbo does help significantly in turbo lag, it may not boost the overall power, but it's just used to mitigate the initial drop in power. But your video was very insightful! Cheers!
@samspam6355 2 роки тому
I want to say I’ve been enjoying your videos for awhile now and today’s the first day I subscribed to you guys.you guys a donut have really inspired me too start working on one of my first project car. I use to think it was really difficult at first but After awhile you guys helped me realize you just got to take it one step at a time
@KeyboardNewbie 3 роки тому
4 minutes of turbo for 40 minutes of charge time sounds like a good way to have the occasional fun without adding permanent pressure to an engine block. If it's easier to install than a regular turbo, this could be a cool upgrade for the casual enthusiast
@p.krisztian6704 3 роки тому
It reminded me of nitrous in the nfs games
@mazdaweeb3 3 роки тому
Honestly, four minutes of boost is a lot. I'd say 95% of my driving isn't in boost so I would never run out.
@Lofi.z34 3 роки тому
It's a complete waste of energy. Just have a tuner run your turbos on a low-boost map. Switch to the high-boost map when you wanna get spicy.
@rogerhinman5427 3 роки тому
And without all the plumbing, intercooler, etc of a conventional turbo.
@gabrielalbeldaochoa8234 3 роки тому
And useful to get up to speed and go into the highway.
@GerryRR 3 роки тому
Biggest advantage of an electric turbo is the "decoupling" from the engine imo. You can spin the electric turbo at any speed you want anytime you want. For the kind of power you only need occasionally, it makes sense...almost like a nitrous bottle that can fill itself from your alternator. I don't think it would work well for a large truck engine or something, but for a passenger car to have some more oomph for passing or merging or just for fun? It works.
@mateuszzimon8216 3 роки тому
I think for truck (semi) is also good for overtakeing slower trucks.
@eddieschwab864 2 роки тому
I'm thinking that Subaru may have used them in the 91 through 94 Legacy. Because my dad was a rural letter carrier for years had one of those and when you mash the gas you would hear a high-pitched spinning sound and a light would come on on the dash saying power. After the car had given up the ghost me and my brothers were tearing into it a bit and there's a switch under the accelerator which appears to activate it.
@Violt_ Рік тому
@@eddieschwab864 The power light basically makes the transmission computer change its shift ranges, so when you floor it, that power button comes on, and it'll shift at higher RPM's. And i'm not sure but it should also change ignition timing.
@Megabobster 11 місяців тому
now i'm not saying this is a good idea, but what if instead of accomplishing that decoupling with an electrical system, you did it with a gearbox between the hot side and cold side of a turbo. "my car is so manual that even the turbo is manual"
@codypanek 3 роки тому
Waiting 40 minutes for another 4 minutes of fun. That hit me deep lol
@brandonmarr9080 2 роки тому
Or you could change the battery
@Gave-rf1hr 2 роки тому
PE is sad bruh
@jasonjohnson4732 3 роки тому
Thats my favorite introduction of b2b so far this year
@masero2122 3 роки тому
Gold tier intro skit, donut doesn’t get enough recognition and appreciation man
@masero2122 3 роки тому
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@ritawant9492 3 роки тому
Remember the time
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@Natd0gsef 3 роки тому
So damn true
@justinmitiaev6411 3 роки тому
Real og’s remember Bart
@tafadzwasavala2769 3 роки тому
Science garage was the best
@natemartinez4595 3 роки тому
And yet you dont have a comprehensive knowledge of the physics. Stupid schools, such a racket. Idiota
@sadmanh0 3 роки тому
except they don't teach you any math at all?
@bretthousman8317 3 роки тому
Also, if you're driving around, does the alternator charge the battery/amp(?) faster than 40 min?
@porkstamina 3 роки тому
One of the best B2B videos. Loved the intro and the electric turbo explanation was great.
@SvdSinner 3 роки тому
You failed to mention that electric turbos are typically only useful at low RPMs. The compressor's speed doesn't increase with engine speed and can't move enough air for higher RPMs.
@ronalddaub7965 3 роки тому
Oh my this is got the no knowledge engine people really buzzing I bet.lol
@jasonpolmateer226 3 роки тому
He did mention it
@Steve_I 3 роки тому
I cant remember for sure. But I believe the electric turbos that cleetus had would spin faster with more rpm.
@Neojhun 3 роки тому
Depends the power level of Electric Turbo. Electric motors close to 10kw can have crazy high RPMs and enough air flow to feed a 3.0L or less engine. It just would strangle on large displacement engines. The early legit electric compressors were around 5kw thus why they could not feed the top end.
@briancradicsandiego5254 Рік тому
A computer can’t manage a speed controller for the “ELECTRIC SUPERCHARGER”🤷♂️
@hythere 3 роки тому
time to strap a blowdryer to my car now 🤣🤣
@markoz673bajen8 3 роки тому
Reverse Engineered Leaf Blower
@angelgjr1999 3 роки тому
Use an actually air compressor. 5000 PSI. :)
@hythere 3 роки тому
@@markoz673bajen8 😂😂
@dashingdave2665 3 роки тому
Serious: jumping castle air pump
@Warrison_ 3 роки тому
Now use boost from a nasa ship lol
@PiousMoltar 3 роки тому
"Mighty Car Mods" I'm listening... "Cleetus" Go on...
@vojtechstoklasa3417 3 роки тому
can we take a moment to appreciate donut media doing actually good and fun advertisements? I understand that you need ads for money and i think this is the best way to do it! Also ekster looks cool and i will buy it tommorow probably!
@Gale_Force_Raceway 3 роки тому
Genuinely laughed out loud at "like any adult - admit my mistake (1 finger salute)".....
@andreasiven21 3 роки тому
was really nice xd
@squidslapper7328 3 роки тому
Me who’s never even known that electric turbos existed: hmmmmm yes, I agree
@stephenriley1747 3 роки тому
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@additin7470 3 роки тому
@@stephenriley1747 stfu bot
@Warrison_ 3 роки тому
lol same
@bakayo2 3 роки тому
A few years ago I did a research with a team (non car enthusiasts) about "turbocharging" a Prius. The theory is at low speeds (about 1-15MPH) it has more than enough acceleration with the motors. That acceleration then goes down with the engine kicking in. During the times when the motors are not in use and more power is needed we can use the massive battery to spool up a force induction system to give more power to the engine.
@phalanx3803 3 роки тому
Thank you for addressing the alternator part I get into arguments with people over electric cooling fans all the time and they refused understand adding electric fans doesn't increase engine power only shifting the load to the alternator other than having a remote radiator the only benefit an electric fan has is you're not adding another flywheel to the engine letting it rev up slightly faster but you're not truly getting any power gains. The only other benefit to an electric fan is you dont need to take it off to replace accessory belts.
@MrWang 3 роки тому
Yeah the boys! Mighty Car Mods getting some love in the Donut scene
@Keterius 3 роки тому
Nice badge ya got there
@MrWang 3 роки тому
@@Keterius thank you my dude
@emilycampbell6375 3 роки тому
hell yeah, i love their cuba documentary so much, everyone go watch it if you haven't
@pvtnewb 3 роки тому
I was fascinated by that Audi turbo combo tech a few years ago, seems like a solid way to minimize lag without a supercharger thrown into the mix
@whothebeast666 3 роки тому
7:00 are there any advantages to using an electric turbo to supplement a conventional turbo over just having a battery for that "instant boost" you mentioned. As in like a hybrid system
@mattdouglas8900 3 роки тому
Video ideas: 1) start to finish design & development of vehicles 2) engine bay layout explained
@ItzSeeker 3 роки тому
S/O to MightCarMods 🤙🏻❤️
@azhule4041 3 роки тому
For real its like the first time I heard any other youtuber talk about them
@ItzSeeker 3 роки тому
Ik, kinda surprised car throttle hasn’t done a collab with them
@GabagoolGaming 3 роки тому
@@azhule4041 carthrottle definitely mention them now and then
@Ultrasonictwo 3 роки тому
@@azhule4041 They are great love MCM
@azhule4041 3 роки тому
@@GabagoolGaming yeah I'm not a big car throttle watcher, I think the only things I saw was their newer stuff with that new car guy, ill probably catch up on em
@travellingbarrett 3 роки тому
I'm just here for Jeremiah's 5-star panto performance lol
@miles1571 3 роки тому
I feel like it should be called an electric supercharger, you don’t call a centrifugal supercharger a belt turbo.
@AmaroqStarwind 2 роки тому
Well, it is still a turbine-driven supercharger, and the turbocharger might be driven by both electricity *and* exhaust.
@ninjaxd9050 2 роки тому
turbo . . . turbine . . . xD Actually I think belt turbo sounds good!!!!
@kolinmartz 2 роки тому
I mean. A turbo is just a turbine supercharger. Look at the patents
@benjamins9121 2 роки тому
Eh who cares. Technically they're all superchargers, turbo comes from turbo supercharger, but that was a mouthful
@ninjaxd9050 2 роки тому
@@benjamins9121 They should just call it all turbo it's easier that way. Saying it's a turbo says practically nothing about it's performance characteristics these days, perhaps in the past it said more.
@NerdLifeChoice 3 роки тому
Best video in this series yet. Very clear and very informative.
@franciscopatino5803 3 роки тому
Up to speed on the RPM Act please 😬
@quillmaurer6563 3 роки тому
It's basically to protect coal-rolling douchebags under the guise of being about racecars.
@quad55555 2 роки тому
@@quillmaurer6563 WhistlinDiesel douchebags? lol
@bradyfereday6483 3 роки тому
The beginning to this video was perfect 😂
@something7992 2 роки тому
What about sequential shifters and that are supposed to convert your h-pattern to a sequential where u just pul a lever. Like bremer or other makes
@oleglegenchuk6615 3 роки тому
Isn’t what OEMs use it for similar to sequential twin-turbo or hybrid Super and Turbo charge systems (Nissan superturbo MCM worked on for example)?
@dduknic 3 роки тому
dude, your intro was priceless - well done!
@CanadaBud23 3 роки тому
When I saw this I thought oh great, another "desk fan" turbo video. Hardly anyone bothers to get a real one to see what they are like. But Jeremiah here pulls through and gives a proper video.
@andiszile 3 роки тому
Too bad that this video lacked clarification how to distinguish between fake eBay electric turbo and one that actually works. For example - it has to consume least few kW of power to pump enough air. Has to have thick cables, and costs more than 15 USD :D
@CanadaBud23 3 роки тому
@@andiszile Right? The equipment and cost should be a giveaway really. Yeah when I saw the title of the vid I was like "Fiiiinnnnnneee, let's watch some more toy whistles jammed into the intake hole" lol.
@NBSV1 3 роки тому
Most of the scam ones also focus on the speed it can turn. People think if it can turn 10K rpm it must be really powerful. Not realizing the rpm alone doesn’t mean anything. Plus any proper system is going to still be at least a few hundred bucks if not well into the thousands.
@Ardeact Рік тому
To be able to flip a switch to activate your electric turbo reserve sounds pretty awesome, I'd put that on my car without having to deal with the exhaust manifold
@GodWasAnAlien 2 роки тому
Hmmm... what if I bolted 4 of those 500w panels up to a controller and that 48v battery I wonder. SolarBoost. I might be able to fit those on my truck rack...prolly run a leg off the TPS to modulate the current with the throttle through a relay or something so it's not on at idle.
@kgowins97 3 роки тому
The electric turbos remind me of a simpler version of ERS in F1. In F1 the braking and exhaust gas/heat it’s what recharges the battery. In road cars it make sense it take 40 minutes to recharge since it’s not as integrated into the cars design like F1
@TheAdatto 3 роки тому
And in f1 everything just have to last at least 1 race.
@orzorzelski1142 3 роки тому
@@TheAdatto As far as I know, you can use only 3 engines for the entire season. Add in FiA limiting budgets, and cost of other parts for an f1 car... Nah. Teams have to use parts for as long as possible these days.
@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 3 роки тому
@@TheAdatto nope, has to last over 1000km of use.
@kgowins97 3 роки тому
@@TheAdatto not any more since the start of the hybrid era in 2014 they created stricter rules on reliability and more recently even added a cost cap. So most of the hybrid parts have to last 6-7 races if not grid penalties
@RapperRit1 3 роки тому
Guys JP Performance from Germany did a whole Video about Electric Turbos from the netherlands 🔥
@fre3z3r68 3 роки тому
Don't forget to mention the "Super Golf" project. A VR6 with an extra e-turbocharger for that extra boost
@deathstrike 3 роки тому
It's a solid idea, but it's like a computer in a sense. In the older days you had one CPU handle all the tasks of the computer, now you have multi core processors that handle a lot more and are augmented with a good GPU for graphics. Same for electric turbos. If anyone remembers the Mazda RX-7 had a twin turbo setup. But it actually wasnt a twin turbo, it was a two stage compressor. Low stage for idle up to 2400 rpm's or so, high stage for 2400 rpm to redline. I know it's a very basic explanation, but it does work. Now to get an electric turbo to act as a low stage sounds feasible, but it's part of the whole turbo setup as opposed to acting as the only turbo in the vehicle. It might work in the future as battery and other technology improves, but for a viable aftermarket add on? Not for now, just stick with what works and for now, what works can be either a single, or traditional twin turbo setup. At least until electrics takes over completely.
@mateuszzimon8216 3 роки тому
@@deathstrike Yes because RX7 have static geometry, now VAG make small e-turbo and push all exhaust to try spool up big one.
@soapysponge1016 3 роки тому
how do u tune a car if the airflow is constantly changing depending on if your turbo is recharging or pushing air?
@ttv_neechie4041 3 роки тому
You my man keep donut media alive :)
@aidenmorse4226 3 роки тому
you guys should make a video on how nascar engines run at 8500 rpm for hours on end and not break
@cin2110 3 роки тому
It’s the way their engine is built not much to it
@mh13mini 3 роки тому
They just use stock Honda Civic engines, duh.
@NBSV1 3 роки тому
A lot of it is lightweight components made out of really strong alloys combined with really good oiling and cooling systems. Like how they’re all gonna be dry sump and normally run spray bars in the valve covers to spray oil on the valve springs and keep them cooler. They’ve also gone to smaller connecting rod bearings so there’s less rotating weight.
@bughuulss 3 роки тому
Day 139 of asking for the team to design a Dirty Dirk's Blinker Drink T-shirt from the Wheelhouse: Car Terms Every Car Nerd Needs To Know
@ritawant9492 3 роки тому
Because the only
@evanwhite7226 Рік тому
As a diesel technician. The end of this progression is a generator in the driveline for regenative braking. More than likely using a ultra capacitor to build the thousand plus amps. Capacitor will be able to charge and discharge quickly thousands of times.
@keiganburgess4894 3 роки тому
Thank you for giving Might Car Mods and Cleetus McFarland a shout out. A UKposts OG and an OG Florida Man
@hunterwolfe6295 3 роки тому
My boy cleetus was mentioned. Eagles flying strong today
@SaifQreis 3 роки тому
Anyone’s Siri got activated when he said “hey Siri”? I rewinded it couple of times and happened every single time🤯
@questionablecaptainera 2 роки тому
those recharging turbo can be a good option for cheap slower car. depending how it actually work, instead of emptying the battery make it small boost but can be used several times. On slower car it can be used for overtaking lorry or something like that.
@hummingbird9149 Рік тому
Best use is for the initial spool up to eliminate turbolag, which is also what some OEMs are using it for.
@F1JV 3 роки тому
Dominic Toretto lives 10 seconds at a time...4 minutes = 24 runs 👍👍👍 noice.
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 3 роки тому
“So how do you get more air” Me: *inhales* There you go
@TheRealHoltzy 2 роки тому
I LOVE B2B. Easily my favourite UKposts segment. Thanks again for the good job
@cr4zyw3ld3r 3 роки тому
Have a Phantom ESC on my crapbox and its fun as hell, would love to have the TorqAmp or an ArcSupercharger to replace it but now that Garrett is making a street version of a hybrid design I may just wait on that.
@torysaccount5753 3 роки тому
Would an E-Turbo be viable in a hybrid car? It already has a high voltage power supply, that might work out
@cedricmaximilianbrenner3934 2 роки тому
I dont think they can handle those high voltages. Seems to me like the mild-hybrid system with 48v is the best solution. Plus in the high voltage system they would have to add alot of savety features to the turbo which would be more expensive than a 48v version without any need of savety systems.
@Wardawg- 3 роки тому
Mo Powah Babeh!
@uncletido99 2 роки тому
This was a really good straight to the point no bs video. Really good job guys
@speedjunkie13 3 роки тому
I'm pretty sure the Magnetti Marelli hybrid turbo used in F1 uses electric to spool quickly but then starts recharging as soon as exhaust takes over. I've been wanting to try this for several years but I've never found them sold anywhere, and most likely couldn't afford it anyway. Also, it's a 48V system and I'm not sure I have the willpower to tackle that project.
@oscarmollenhauer3083 3 роки тому
If they are run by electricity, not the exhaust, I thought that made them an electric super charger.
@romannasuti25 2 роки тому
They reclaim their power from the exhaust. There’s a little loss of efficiency, but it is still based on reusing exhaust power.
@timmorton885 3 роки тому
Actually sounds like a pretty good tool for drag racing. Easier install and 4 minutes is a lot of runs 😅
@richardmazkin9994 Рік тому
and, if you hook up the electric turbo to run solely off of an isolated battery (so on a separate circuit) you don't have any horsepower loss from adding load to the alternator. and the charge doesn't need huge. 1-2 minutes of charge would be enough for a day at the track.
@saltysteel3996 3 роки тому
My Duramax runs 46psi of turbo boost. Deleted, EFI live tuned, modded, but still stock turbo and injectors. Close to 600hp and over 1000ft/lbs of torque. I wonder if any electric turbo could keep up with that airflow load requirement.
@cobra7250 2 місяці тому
Hi, I enjoy your content. I am wondering why in pro mod supercharged cars are stuck with a white handicap making them heavier than turbos. Maybe you can explain it.
@mr.k6136 3 роки тому
Ahhh I noticed the price of the turbo in the thumbnail. NICE
@giancarlo418 3 роки тому
Nice
@nickp9201 3 роки тому
The price in the thumbnail $420.69😂
@nickTeeKaystrickland 11 місяців тому
Nice vid. Also love the mashup of traditional and conventional around @7:10
@oliverkhalilian9934 3 роки тому
When your other favourite car channel references your favorite car channel @donutmedia @mightycarmods
@allamanachhallabad5124 3 роки тому
There is also a german tuner, which implemented an electric turbo in a VR6 powered 1000HP Golf 7. He has a lot of projects like this. Could this a topic you could talk about? 😇 Greetings from Germany
@Une6sy 3 роки тому
It’s only used to spool up the actual turbo
@chrisrivera2532 3 роки тому
I work at Jaguar Land Rover and a few models have electric superchagers. They look like turbos but the “hot side” is an electric motor. Helps with boost lag and boost at idle. Had to replace one on an F-Pace today
@kamikazeekarrot6306 3 роки тому
Here, out at sea, on a big boat, we use some big ole electric turbos on our ship's main engine when the turbocharger can't make enough scavenge (boost) pressure. We've had them since, like the 90s, or something. But our setup isn't exactly typical, because the engine itself is a 2-stroke the size of a cathedral where a human can fit in the crank case or in a cylinder. Same principle though :)
@ls_action9108 3 роки тому
I don’t understand one thing, why you don’t just use a planetary gear to transfer a very fast rotating from a low-power 12v motor to the e turbo. that doesn’t drain the battery and doesn’t need an extra battery. So the turbo would be longer but it would be more powerful.
@erlendse 3 роки тому
It doesn't change a lot. The turbo/compressor still takes a LOT of power to spin, since it does actual work!
@ls_action9108 3 роки тому
@@erlendse Sure, but as already said, because you hang a gearbox on the motor, you can use a smaller, less powerful motor and thereby compensate for many disadvantages.
@erlendse 3 роки тому
@@ls_action9108 Like what? High speed electric motors isn't a problem to build. Driving a gearbox to drive the compressor would take massive torque! It takes a lot of power to drive the compressor, no clue what the gearbox is supposed to archive.
@ls_action9108 3 роки тому
@@erlendse For example, you could use a motor for a battery-powered angle grinder with a gearbox of a cordless screwdriver high speed plus torque equals the shit works
@erlendse 3 роки тому
@@ls_action9108 Well.. that's not how stuff works. a gearbox converts between torque and speed, quite much. To have both you need a LOT of power!
@josaphatfebrianj.f_works2838 Рік тому
dont f1 use electric turbo as well ? the MGU H system
@vasilis23456 3 роки тому
You don't need to upgrade the alternator to the crazy amounts mentioned unless you need the electric turbo running all the time. You can use your stock alternator and when you turn the turbo on it's pretty much just as efficient as the car without the electric turbo, (only power gains, no losses from the turbo). So you would make the most peak power from an electric turbo than a normal turbo / supercharger, with the downside of it running only part of the time. Think of it like the MGUK of an F1 car, except that directly powers the wheels. If you upgrade the alternator you can use the electric turbo more of the time for less efficiency, also less power when the turbo is off as the alternator load is still there.
@d3ofol Рік тому
Would one be able to use their a/c compressor as a super sketch turbo? It's usually belt driven and already in there and everything... Just some bendy tubes and adapters then mo powah, right?
@cl0ut_gxd554 3 роки тому
when james passes away we better get a “mowe powah baby” compilation in memory of him
@jasonpolmateer226 3 роки тому
Has there been a donut video on Subarus Symmetrical AWD?🤔🤔🤔 That would make an interesting B2B
@OGNISTYSZKQAJDII 2 роки тому
ok ok ok wait a minute because i was considering that for a long time now and thinking how to make it what if what if we use alternator hooked up to exhaust turbine basically drawing power like classic turbine but because of storing the power compressor can be used 100% all the time from the bottom getting rid of spool lag working like typical belt driven compressor or even better
@MatthewMcGregorMento 2 роки тому
Came back months later just to re-watch the intro. So good.
@snowpuppy666 3 роки тому
Please do an up to speed on Infiniti
@nicolascrescimone 3 роки тому
Why? They suck
@SvdSinner 3 роки тому
Yes please. My current daily is an i35 which was faster than the Mustang GT's of that era.
@joshuagibson2520 3 роки тому
Canaan is also my youngest sons name. He's 21 and serving in the NG. Proud of that boy.
@Z-Twinturbo 3 роки тому
10:01 my new line when I'm losing an arugment from now on
@MrManerd 3 роки тому
Could you PLEASE link to the aftermarket electrically assisted turbo?
@owenpatton757 3 роки тому
Ole cleets science episodes are finally getting the scientific recognition they deserved
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