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What ?

@@aegeanmapping I say that Ukraine and Albania have similar history

@@user-sm5um8hz4e what is similar ??

@@aegeanmapping trials to destroy nations, ethnical cleanings, genocides, fights against the strongest countries, assimilation of land which is not included in borders of countries (like greece in this video, Kosovo etc. And Ukraine with Kuban, Starodub, Holm, Transdisteria, Belgorod, Taganrog and Rostov

@@aegeanmapping Ingenerally histories are similar because struggles for independence and trials to assimilate people in empire

Yes is very true that Dacia and Illyrians were of the same origin

@@ermirmehmeti7697 Both of you should do a DNA test and learn who is your father.

@@skeptim8096 Genetics aren't ethnicities, I think you mess up something, all Mediterranean people have same genes Romanians Greeks Albanians Italians and southern Balkans

@@blackpill7856 Just no. It seems that you are the one that have messed some things. A nation is formed based on some factors. One of them is the same genetics shared among the people who live in this nation. Genes have names and they differ per area. And no, Greeks have not the same genetics with either Italians (close but not same) or Romanians. (Romania is not even mediteranean.) But what about you and the neo Turks? guess with which specific gen you are related to.

@@skeptim8096 There is no such thing as Greek DNA as DNA is simply not based on nationalities. Btw Greeks are so heavily mixed and dont have a specific gene to relate. Guess to which you strongly belong to.

how does your family live with the arvanite identity regarding their albanian origin and how do they feel about the "greekness"policy by the greek government? im very curious 😅

Why Albanian Arvanites are so scared of Greek government?

@@markosbotsaris32 talk talk talk, the time will teach you.

@@markosbotsaris32 accept the truth… hahaha says a New-Greek.

@@user-db8ht2hg9k Arvanites are Albanians and you're just an obvious Greek hater here. Good luck!

I know that in Eboia (Evia) there are many arvanites living there in Kalkidiki, Marmara and Karistos. And to be sure there were proud to be of albanian roots.

Really you are Arberor. 😮Arvaniti ua super. Do you speak Shqip

@@farijeleka2890 sigurisht

@@farijeleka2890 I do not speak Arvanite, my grandmother from my mother's side who is Arvanite does not speak Albanian either.

@@SasGiou This is total nonsense. Languages do not get created when someone standardizes or changes an alphabet. Neither Albanian nor Turkish were "made" in the 1900's. Albanian is in fact one of the oldest languages in the world.

O vlla ca thot nket rast sjam mir me anglishten,kujt i jep drrejt shqiptarve apo grekve,KU e perkufizon iden..un jam shqiptar mo's shif emrin ska lidhje

E pasqyron realitetin dhe u jep te drejte shqiptareve

@@angelogounaris2537 shqiptarve vlla, ata gjithmon shqip kan fol ne Greqi edhe ne per raste Politiker, por Russia edhe Prince Otto e kan ndalu gjuhen shqipe dhe kan vra Prifta Shqiptar

@@Arber-4673 nrml shqipes jan heq drrejtat perher per arsye se muslimant dhe ortidokst kan qen nmas ortodoks me kuptimin dhe sllave, Dhe n'koen mas vdekjes skenderbeut ban pakt rusia me turqin Gjith veneve ortodokse dhe sllave mo's i hiqni fen dhe gjuhen dhe turqit e pranun Kte. Pranaji shqiptaret u kthyn shumic muslimane se Su perfshin npaktin rusi turqi Dhe turku majti gjith ballkanin me dhun e me vrasje por vetem shqiptaret u kthyn nfe arabe fatkeqisht dhe kjo esh arsyja sot e fukarallukut apo perbuzjes nga evropa dhe lanja jasht bashkimit evropian

Ti nuk e din as si fliste gjyshi yt.🖐

Ironically, you call yourself, Greek 🤣🤣 but your native language says something completely different

You wish that you was arvanite AKA albanian...you must be another anatollian gypsie claiming to be arvanite...

Albanians and arvanites are the real native ancient greeks. Greek is the penunsila… but presently to say greek suggests current greeks, we want to prevent that comparison to not suggest that our nationality is greek

What are you saying doesn’t make any sense… you putting it like Albanian and arvanitës/arbëresh/arbëror/arvnaut/arbanasi doesn’t mean the same thing. It is the same f thing it means Albanian. And no we are not Greeks,but you are though because you live in Greece and been assimilated you didn’t had a choice, it is sad.

You have the right to consider yourself whatever makes you feel better. That's your human right. In the video I never once consider modern Arvanites as Albanians even though I personally have met Arvanites that do and don't considers themselves as Albanians.But to claims that Arvanites back in the day were never Albanians, are nothing more demonizing racist.

In my opinion, racism is exactly the contrary: It is the concept of DNA and alleged bloodline which leads to racism. Which seems to be the theoretical foundation of the storyline in a number of so-called "documentaries" dealing with Albanian history (and not only...). People in the Balkans, Asia Minor etc. have been mixing all the time in the past. Especially if you did not have to change your religion, which in those past centuries was much more of a dividing line than the notion of being Armenian, Greek, Serb, Bulgarian, Shqiptar, Vlach etc. Not to speak of the "nation", which is a rather new concept dating from the French revolution and which did not exist before. An Arvanite would marry with any other Christian ethnic group but never with what they called a "Turkalbanian" or any other Moslem. As the ancient Greeks said: You don't become Greek by birth (blood). You become Greek by sharing the respective culture, worship of same gods (i.e. religion), language and education. What could be more of an open society and less racist than that? How many Greeks can claim they have a pure Hellenic bloodline throughout more than 2.000 years? How many Turks can claim they have a pure Central Asia DNA, which they came from almost 1.000 years ago? How many of today's Persians, French, Germans, Spaniards etc. can claim being "pure"? Probably a very tiny minority, which won't be able to prove it anyway. Therefore, such concept sucks and is of very little meaning. What matters is what you identify with and you feel loyal to.

Well is millions Arvanites(Arbëresh) who left Peloponnesus after ottoman occupation,they still keeps the Byzantine flag 🦅🇦🇱🦅,Arvanitis are the people who speaks Arvanitika,not the Caucasian Pontic Greek south Russia.😊

Il sangue è sangue Ci sono corvi che vogliono diventare aquila. Ma il corvo rimane corvo e la aquila rimane aquila. Adesso non possiamo fare niente. Perche ti hanno docttrinato da secoli. E la Grecia vi deve. Ci deve il sangue versato. Ma lascia se tropo stupido per spiegarti cosa hano fato i zionisti. Per fare la Grecia con il sangue e uomini albanesi. Come ti senti e un altra cosa ma cosa sei e un altra io sono italiano cittadinanza. Ma il mio sangue era è e rimane Albanese. E ne sono fiero .perché siamo ancora qua.

Non dividere i albanesi in tosc geg myzeqe. Muslimano ortodoso cattolico. Siamo uno sangue del Scanderbeg Sangue del Pirro e Di Teuta

I am 100% Arvanite as well and fully agree with what you say. One better doesn't dare to say to an Arvanite he would be Albanian. All Arvanites are and have been Christian Orthodox citizens of the Eastern Roman / Byzantine Empire. As was the case with all populations / ethnicities of the Balkans and Asia Minor before the Ottoman conquest. My Arvanite ancestors had to flee from their city located in today's Southern Albania (Βοσκόπολης, today Voskopojë) in 1772 because it was repeatedly attacked and burnt down by moslem Shqiptars and their Ottoman masters. They escaped to Thrace (today's European part of Turkey) for a better future. Unfortunately, one more time they had to suffer, this time from harassments and prosecutions from the Young Turks in the early years of the 20th century. Belonging to the Christian Orthodox population they had to leave as refugees into the boundaries of today's Greece after the end of the war with Turkey and exchange of populations in 1923. Never ever my Arvanite grand-parents did consider themselves as Albanians. If you would have told them so, you would have run severe risk of being slapped. Arvanites never bowed to moslem masters, they safeguarded their Eastern Roman / Byzantine identity and religion in spite of their sufferings, bravely fought for Greek independence and held top functions in the Greek state up to several Prime Ministers. If there ever has been any commonality between those, who call themselves Albanians today, and Arvanites during the hellenistic, Roman and Byzantine periods, our history and identity starts irrevocably to split, at latest, after Kastriotis' death in 1468 and his heroic resistance against the Ottomans. Ironically, it is those who largely converted to the religion of their new Ottoman masters thereafter (today's Albanians) that consider him as their national hero.... Has the "documentary" producer ever wondered why Kastriotis' flag had the double headed eagle - Albania's flag of today? He should take a look at the flag of the Byzantine Empire, whose 1.000 years existence ended with the fall of Constantinople in 1453 and conversion of Christendom's biggest cathedral into a mosque by the Ottomans. Modern Albania and double headed eagle...irony here again. I rather accept - apart from Greeks - the Serbians, Russians referring to that symbol as Byzantium's cultural heirs. Latest after Kastriotis' death, Arvanites started standing on opposite sides, they suffered and they fought against what they called from thereon Turkalbanians and their Ottoman masters. So, never anybody call us Albanians. We are not. This for the history. Today, I believe most Arvanites have nothing against Albanians. The vast majority of Albanians integrates very well into Greek society, they typically are honest, hard working people and adapt well to the Greek culture. At least, this is what I can state from my experience.

@@stolgos8964 well said! Greek and Arvanites are more than brothers. We are the same. For more than a thousand years we are living, fighting and suffering along with each other, while for the exact same periods Albanians have always been subjects of Ottomans and enemies of Greece. (Most of the modern day Albanians that live in Greece are integrated though and are very welcome to stay)

Both you are still sleep. Too much info out there go do some research u are 100% Albanian

​@@stolgos8964 Just one question for you. Have you ever visited Arvanites of Italy? I suggest you to go and visit your Brothers and Sisters. Tell them if they are Albanians or Greeks ? They are the same as you, the same exact people, most of them have the origins in Morea (Peloponnese,Greece). By the way, muslim Albanians, especially the Tosk have never been aggressive toward christians and especially toward Orthodox Christians and you know why ? Cuz all the muslim tosk albanians know very well that their grand fathers were Orthodox. The tosk muslim albanians are not even sunni but Bektashi, a sort of mix of muslim and orthodox religion. They have always fight for their freedom and for thei national issue which was to be Albanian and to be Free! Maybe you should know more about greek priests at the time, those who publically cursed the Albanian language and were largerly supported by the ottoman authority. It is not a case that the only forbidden language in this aera was the Albanian language while greeks and serbs had all the rights to study in their mother tongue! We Albanians do not hate you even though you hate on us so muc but ironically hating on us your also hating yourself. Be Greeks, be Chinese, be Americans, be whatever you want my dear Arvanite brothers but at least do not hate your blood and your ancestry.

Arvanite here, and proud of my Albanian origins whether Greek bigots like it or not.

Helene Ahrweiler: Arvanites or Albanians of Greece / ALB GOD ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jYGXn4KOpJeF1GQ.html

95% of the people in the war were arvanites so why mention the others?

He did say that out of 100 heroes, 90 were arvanit, which means the other 10 were of other ethnicity. Plus, this documentary is to acknowledge the role of the arvanite in the Greek history. Cheers

​@@Flavor88Arvanites made a tiny contribution to the war of indepedence but bevause Albanians were ottoman dogs the love fabricated history.Leave tour microcosm, come to realiry and realise onlt Botsaris was an Arvanite from the Souli.

@@Psolaras22 lol being created by albanians and calling albanians "ottoman dogs", only a "greek" would do. Sure buddy, keep living your lie

For a nation that talks alot of proberganda and tries to steal another country's history why is it that albania is one of the weakest country's in Europe and hasn't contributed anything to mankind except for the arvanites who helped the greeks get independent and most of them say they are proud greeks .And they also fought against the ottoman muslim albanians .Try to better your country now and look ahead rather than look back in time and try to alter history that is recognised all over the world. Wake up

Good point Christian Arvanites, Spartans, Epirotans, Macedonians etc must not forget that you were persecuted by the Muslim Albanians, Spartans, Epirotans, Macedonians, Slavs so called Turks and you fought for the liberation of Greece

hello ✝️🇦🇱

E vlerësoj pa masë që ju pëlqeu videoja. Faleminderit shumë! Respekt

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle me fal Kam 1 pyetje gjithe keto video i keni me prova te verteta Jo te degjuara

@@Albanian-ev2fx Kërkoj falje për përgjigjen e vonuar. Çdo video që kam bërë kam bërë kërkime të thelluara nga libra si në këtë rast nga Arben P. Lalla, kam kontrolluar faktet të gjithë librat që kam blerë vetëm për t'iu afruar të vërtetës. Unë nuk pretendoj se jam një historian i trajnuar ndaj jam plotësisht i vetëdijshëm se në disa raste ndoshta kam humbur data, emra të vërtetë por asnjëherë për të shtrembëruar të vërtetën.

Is widely known, but this doesn’t change a thing.

@@dorinakasa9051 it does, first arvanites are not greek then greeks are bad for cham genocide? Choose.

Μαλακίες λέει....

Τους ξεκώλιασε και δεν το λένε ο μεγάλος Ζέρβας.Αλλα οι Αλβανοί ότι τους συμφέρει αναφέρουν.

He was Slavic-Vlach!

@noahapollo Arvanites share the same DNA and language with modern-day Albanians. Most Arvanites originate from Medieval Principality of Arbanon (somewhere in Middle Albania today, or Epirus Novus), these tribes migrated south after the fall of the Roman Empire and Slavic migration in south-east Europe around 11th century. They kept the Byzantine Greek Orthodox religion, catechism was done and it is still done in Medieval Greek language. After the Ottoman conquest of the region, Arvanites and most Greeks kept the Orthodox religion while most Albanians and Slavic people converted to Islam and benefited from this status within the Ottoman Empire. That explains the animosity between Greeks (including Arvanites) and Albanians today. Orthodox Serbs a little bit north from Greece and Albania, killed and massacred their own Muslim people (Bosnia), while Bulgaria and Serbia fought and tore apart the region with Slavic people along Axios river which Greek government calls today North Macedonia (?). Albanians see Arvanites in high regard; Arvanites in the eyes of Albanians are brave people who survived Ottoman Turk occupation, kept their religion, and fought valiantly for Greece's independence. I have met Arvanites in Athens, and I am surprised how they had preserved their language, Arvanitika, which in itself is an old Medieval Albanian language dialect. I was in local wedding, the songs, costumes were all so similar to Albanian costumes and wedding songs and music. In my view, Arvanites should serve as a bridge to bring Greeks and Albanians closer. Greece has the most glorious history, and Ancient Greek civilization was the inspiration of European Renaissance. Albanians lived between Ancient Rome and Ancient Greece; and despite not having much written or documented history, Albanians should be proud just for surviving between these two giant civilizations; they kept their language and customs (some of these customs still survive to this day, as the hardcore Albanians would change less with time!)... but loosing to the Ottomans after George Castrioti's death, massive islamisation, and not able to create an independent state earlier than WW1, put Albanians at a disadvantage compared to Slavic neighbors and much earlier independent Greece. As if the Ottoman 500 years occupation wasn't enough, Albanians aligned with Stalin and the communist block for 50 years, this destroyed the Albanian man to the core; communists outlawed religion and those praying to God were sent to jail or labor camps, or even worse shot dead by the regime. Albanians got out of the "cave" in 1991, hungry, tattered, anything outside Albania was totally different; Albania of 1991 was living similar to the years 1920-1930. People were indoctrinated to listen to communist bureau what to say and how to say something... no free thinking, no freedom of expression... some Albanians even today idolize the regime... they were like robots, communist party arranged their life and their talk... paople in family parties were required to toast for the communist party and comrade Tyrant. Those were really dark days for Albanians... 30 some years after the fall of communism, Albania is still ruled by communists, much more liberal now, but very corrupt and nepotic rule. Greetings!

@HK-pp9ig you certainly didn't see the Greek Arvanites as brothers when you decended in your 50s of thousands into Geece to suppress the revolution. God help any Greek or Greek Arvanite who was caught by the Turkalbanians as they referred to you. The men were impaled and the women and children sold into slavery. They preferred to die rather than surrender. In 1940, the same. After living 800 years in Greece, living as Greeks, Greek Orthodox Christians, fighting for Greek freedom, they not Albanians, they Greeks and not part of your history. They constituted 10 to 20% of the population. They were prominent in 1821 because they had a fighting tradition, but together with the rest of the other, 80% of the population won Greek freedom. When the Greek schools were opened, they were the first to put their children in the schools. I also don't see any queues of Greek Arvanites lining up to get into Albania. The opposite it true. Or come to Souli and tell them you're their long lost Turkalbanian brother. Arvanites founders of modern Greece is, therefore, nothing more than historical disinformation with some ulterior motive.

Πίσω στην αλβανία τότε τι κάθεσαι ?

@@user-yp9zy1yc2n LOL, you'd have to kick out of Greece half of Athens and some more. Really?! Arvanites are the backbone of Greek state and Greek independence! You know that! Arvanites even have to forget their blood and mother tongue to please the new "Hellenes" in the second century of the the Greek state existence. You know that Arvanites are more Greeks than you! At least they can track their ancestry to the Homeric times, while some other Greeks came from far away places, from Levante, Caucasus and Anatolia. You know that as well. When Germans came to see your Greece, they were disapointed, as Greece was not what they had ideolized and supported in 1821, while the same Germans helped Albanians take Kosovo many decades before NATO and the US did so in 1999. Arguing against Arvanites is a lost game for you; should be proud of Arvanites for what they have done for the Greek state.

@@HK-pp9ig Arvanites are straight up 100% albanians nothing else they are not the back bone of hellenism and they have nothing to do with homeric times.Let's get real.And for your information im hellenic proper which means im not an arvanite or a anatolian i did not migrate from the caucusus or turkey or the middle east or any other place i'm literally hellenic proper i don't speak albanian or turkish or arabic so deal with it♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️🇬🇷♓️

Arnaut means Arvanite! has nothing to do with slavs or with anyone else. Slavs called is Arbanski or Arbanas there are villages in Croatia,Ukraine,Bulgaria who has Arnaut,Arbanas,Arvanite origin they still speak Albanian.

@SkyTechLover - Kush eshte shtet racist? Greqia? Greket jane me komplexe me te erreta se shqiptaret... keshtu qe fjala racist nuk shkon. Greket jane anti-shqiptare. Racism was defined by the master of race, Germans who chose Albanians above Greeks, and of course above Slavs. Please do not use the word "racist" for Greeks, they are not racist; just ant-Albanian (Albanian-haters)... you can see how friendly are Greeks and the Greek state toward Afghanistani people, Pakistani people, and others from Africa or Asia, but they are full of hate against Albanians.

@@HK-pp9ig Shiko ne pergjithesi kam gjetur njeres te mbrekullushem qe akoma i kam shoke te ngusht Grek flas. Po keta njeres eshte sikur kerkon gjilper ne kasht. Ke te drejte Urrejta qe kan kundra nesh eshte e pa besushme. I mesoj keshtu qe kur lindin. Dhe vazhdon kjo uretje gjer sa ven ne var.

Spread love not hate

Don't paint everyone with the same brush Albania's are a part of Greek society since 600 years

Maybe as a Unity and not like it was: in tribes

Thats Why they mentioned Later

@@adaradavina7450 "As has been noted above, the first millennium of Albanian history had little to do with the Albanian peoples themselves. As an ethnic group, the Albanians first emerged from the mists of history in the early years of the second millennium A.D." Robert Elsie, Keeping an Eye on the Albanians: Selected Writings in the Field of Albanian Studies, 2015, p. 11-40.

@@adaradavina7450 "Robert Elsie was a Canadian-born German scholar who specialized in Albanian literature and folklore. Elsie was a writer, translator, interpreter, and specialist in Albanian studies" wiki/Robert_Elsie

@@highevan k and? Whats your point?

Moj e bukur Arbëri

The same song is also at the end of the video by Ilir Shaqiri

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle falemderit, amazing video also

Më vjen mirë që ju pëlqeu videoja! Përshëndetje të përzemërta!

With all due respect, many independent Greek historians have admitted many of the facts mentioned in the video for a very long time. So who's to blame here..? Should this channel take the blame for highlighting what Greek historians are already admitting and then blame the "messenger" for creating negative connotation, or is it Greek historiographical propaganda machine that's denying these facts and demonizing those that speak out?

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle I absolutely agree with you. Don’t get me wrong, I am well aware of what happened there and what has happened to ethnicities and cultures in nation building. This happened many places and is still happening to Tibetans, uighurs, aborigines, Palestinians, tribes in Africa and South America, etc. My point is that the propaganda machine that has taken place will fall upon itself when presented with the historical facts. The history is awful as it is, but when the presenter of history sets the tone, he also makes a narrative that might obscure the intention, which is to highlight what happened. I don’t want this valuable information to be discredited because of its emphatic narrative, but rather because it reflects the true state of affairs during those times. Since the “Greek” state has already been invented and now factually exists in the world and the psyche of the Greek people, it is counterproductive because the idea of a Greek state is real today, but by whom and what it was founded upon, is not. That is the essence of this video, to highlight the truth of what happened to the true people of todays Greece. Greeks and the world today are unaware of this fact, it’s been purposely erased from the collective consciousness. This is why any attempt of rectifying it must be done without feelings and emotions, but simply with the truth. All the ignorance is to blame, but everyone was victims to these great powers, unfortunately in this case, Albanians the most. My point was that even if you removed many of the dramatic effects, the message would still be powerful. Nonetheless, really great job in bringing this information out.

@@AlOfNorway You are absolutly right that this topic is sensitive and should be treated with respect, and not discriminate against the Greek people, which i clearly mention 43:44. Be that as it may, countries around the world, especially European countries that helped consolidate the modern Greek state, know these facts very well. Each of these heads of states have their own historians, military advisors, economists etc, who often counsul their elected officials when drafting political agreements with nations, but also enlighten their officials of deep rooted conflicts between nations. Though the Arvanite struggle has purposefully been manipulated by Greek historiography for decades, more light ought to be shed on the lies, whether that be with or without dramatic effects. 😉 Thank you for your appreciation and your thoughtful reasoning. Enjoyed it!

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle There should indeed be acknowledgment of the fact and I am grateful you are bringing light to the topic. Thank you for the answers and likewise!

you can read all the scripts you want. nothing changes the fact that all epirus/illyria/macedonia spoke the same language. greek was not the language they spoke

@@thisoldpod so why are there Ancient Greek archeological sites in modern day Albania and North Macedonia?

@@paulturner9542 so they could steal more history

@@paulturner9542 All the architecture of ancient Rome was influenced by Greek culture and the same thing happened in those sites you are talking about. Would you call the Roman ruins Greek? If you have no expertise for this, don't talk nonsense.

Those Greeks you are taking about were most likely Illyrians as well. Greek did not exist back then. Remember that Dorians came from the North and settled to the south as well. Hellenes is a synonym for Illyrians, they both have the same meaning basically - The star people.

Thx btw most of greeks in greece are related to pontic greeks whom are closer to armenians and georgians who got assimilated into greek culture, so your real population might be bigger than expected

'O moj e bukura Arberi'

Moj a bukuri moree

Bocaris in Greece are Greeks, but I had one professor in University in Tirana, Albania with last name Bocari who is 100% Albanian, his family originating from the Paramythia/Souli region in today's Greece.

@@HK-pp9ig How an Albanian will originate from paramythia what paramythia or durres or pogradec etc mean in albanian?

@@dggmn2109 Albanians did not originate from Paramythia. Albanians originated from what is today central Albania; Albanopolis is not far from Tirane. Albanians are believed to originate from Illyrian tribes that lived along the eastern Adriatic coast, and as far east as Scupi (Slavic Skopje) and north-east Naissus in Serbia. While many other Illyrian tribes became Slavicized from Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and western Serbia, some mountainous tribes survived the Slavization. Pogradec most likely is a Bulgarian toponym, while Durres derived from Epidamnos/Durrahyon - an old Greek colony. Macedonia and Epirus were the outliers of ancient Greek world only accepted into the Greek world after Alexander the Great took Epirus and entire Greece under his rule; this Greek antiquity ended in 146 BC with Rome conquering Greece. Thracians and other tribes outside Greece were Slavicized, while some other areas became Latinized (Romania). From 146 BC Greeks lost their prominence in the region, and were called Romans (due to Eastern roman Empire ruling from Buzantium/ Constantinople) until early 19th century. Romans expanded Epirus from the northern border defined by Aosa river to include Durres (Durrahyon) and as north as bordering Republic of Venice in Lissus and Scutari. Old Albanians in Athens and other parts of Old Greece migrated south from Albanopolis and other Arbanon areas due to Slavic massive migration in southeast Europe. They were Greek Orthodox in religion but spoke Albanian language. Arvanite today is listed as an Albanian Language, no relationship to Greek. Just like Arberesh in Italy is a Medieval Albanian dialect. Greek lands and Albanian lands from 9th cantury until 14th century were ruled by Slavic rulers from Bulgaria, Serbia, and then again Bulgaria. Slavic migration penetrated Greece as deep as vast ereas of Epirus, along with other tribes, especially Aromanians (Vlahs).

@antap you might be right about "alvinites" - Arvanites are a different story - Arvanites are Greek orthodox people who have common DNA/blood and language with modern-day Albanians. Arvanites are documented to have moved to central and south Greece from 11th century onward and they kept their language and customs. Arvanites is considered an Albanian dialect by the world accademia.

​@@HK-pp9igthey didn't move, they are AUTOCHTHONOUS

@@illyrian3949 You talking about Arvanites? They didn't move? Yes, they did; the earliest migration of Arvanites south toward Peloponese are from the 11th century; some scholars believe this happened at the time of Slavic advent in the Balkans. Maybe you are talking about other Albanians in Greece, Chams? Many Albanians, mainly Muslim Albanians in Greece lived in Epirus and Macedonia form many centuries; almost all Muslims were expelled to Turkey in 1923 when Greece retrieved Greeks and other Orthodox people from the Kemalian Turkey; Albanian Orthodox people in Greece simply adhered to the Grrek culture by government and society pressure and/or for opportunistic reasons. Epirus of 18th and 19th centuries was a mixed place, especially Ioannina, where Muslim and Orthodox Albanians lived along Greeks, Vlachs, Jews, Gypsies, etc. After WW1 when Greece added most of Epirus into their territory, Albanian population declined due to Greece's policy against Albanians, and after WW2 Greece ethnically cleansed Epirus of Albanians there.

@antap You are right, Arvanites are part of the modern Greek history. They share the same DNA and language with Albanians, but nobody is saying that they are not Greeks - they have been Greeks before modern Greek state. Arvanites date from 11th century, many inhabitans of what was known then as Albanoi, Principality of Arber, etc., moved to Morea, Poloponese and other parts of Modern Greece due to the presure from massive Slavic migration to the Balkans. Slavs went as south as Epirus, and they overran Macedonia, Thessaly and other regions. There are many Greek speakers today in Epirus (north and south) who carry Slavic DNA. It is interesting to know that, on the Albanian border slavic DNA is found in both Albanian (Muslim) and Greek speaking communities (Orthodox). Arvanites in this regard are local to the south-east Europe from 6-8 thousand years, they only migrated further south during Middle Ages. There were Greek Orthodox then, they continue to be Greek Orthodox now, while many Albanian Orthodox (Greek Orthodox nonetheless) converted massively to Muslims during the long Ottoman occupation. I have met Arvanites in Athens, Piraeus, Megara, and Salamina. I also have met many Albanian speakers in Ioannina, but they were not arvanites, they were Albanian Orthodox inhabitants of Epirus who identify as Greeks after Ottomans withdrew from Epirus after the WW1. Be proud of what you are! I know most of the times Albanians from the socialist republic have no clue about Arvanites, and bluntly say that Arvanites are Albanians - while Albanian heritage is something to be proud of for Arvanites of Italy (Arberesh) similar and sometimes the same bloodline as Arvanites, as some Arberesh of Italy came from Morea (Epirus and other north-western coastal Greece), and the same pride is displayed by Arberesh in the USA and Argentina; but in Greece, for many reasons Arvanites had a hard time being accepted as first class Greeks especially after WW2, political Greek supremacy, ancient Greek heritage, and above all, modern day Albanians being Muslims, hence closer to Truks than to their Greek neighbors, made many Greeks despise Albanians in general; many Greeks hate Albanians more than they hate Turks; Arvanites do not want to be seen as part of that hated group. Albanians themselves are very proud; they haven't done much; but in my opinion they have done more than many other people; Albanians survived between two great absolute powers; Greek antiquity and mighty Roman Empire. You can see Romania being all romanized, Thrace and macedonia were overran by Slavs; Albanian ahve nothing to show to others, but they have their own language, their old customs; kinship and welcoming like no one else. Well, I don't want to start our bad side, as I know more our faults than Greeks can tell!!! Be well! Greetings!

@@HK-pp9igArvanites was Albanian and they language was Albanian 🦅🇦🇱🦅

They didnt exist, they were arvanites in greece, no albanian would call his brethen arvanite but shqiptar, greeks call them arvanites and turks calls them arnaut, the main difference is turks accept arnaut are not their known even tho they fought for them contrary to greeks who still keep this negationism shit

@@claudiiusmaximus652 We Greeks should celebrate and protect Albanians and Albanian culture and not erase it. Many of us may not know how Albanian our ancestors were

Arvanites from Albania stayed true to themself and didnt sacrifice their life, their language and their culture to a state that hates them and try everything go erase them...

We Greeks never tried to erase the Albanians. But the Turks tried. They wanted to make them Turks by force as they tried to make the Greeks, and the Armenians and the Kurds and many others. And unfortunately for us Greeks , the Albanian governments, instead of being friendly to Greece, are friendly to Turkey. They forget that Greece gave shelter and work to thousands of Albanians, in a period when the Greeks are also having a hard time.

@@user-ot3lw1ze9m albanians saved your ass from the turks what are you tslking about

Thank you! ❤️

@@swordofomens3381 you are an orthodox albanian, stop with the propaganda.. why greeks have albanian surnames?

Po ku je ore vëlla?? A jeni trima me Shpata tan? Rrnoft Gjuha, Fara, Trojet Arbërore

Nuk na duen viza per udhtime sikur UK

@@blackpill7856 Why Albanians have vlach names ends to -U or -IU? Or why they changed the -U or -IU to -O?

Me too especially the fact that the Muslim Albanians were persecuting the Christian Arvanites and had to fled to Greece and became one with the other Greeks and fight for the liberation of Greece was an eye opener.

They referred as "greeks" only cuz they were of orthodox religion, that is why even the place was named "Piana dei Greci". Today is names Piana degli Albanesi, Arberesh call it Hora e Arberesheve. They were never greeks but orthodox Albanians.

@@erigreca3297 Mpiris was a Greek Arvanitis and a scholar and this particular book is considered one of the best on the subject. With the specific real episode he describes, as well as with many other sources he uses, he demonstrates that the orthodox Arvanites clearly had a Greek consciousness. The Arberesh who migrated to Italy mainly from Morea also had Greek conscience until Mussolini's regime. In Greece this of course never changed, while in Italy and Albania, through merciless state propaganda over the last hundred years or so they managed to slowly make their descendants believe that they are the same as the Sqipetars...

@@erigreca3297 It's plain wrong to actually believe that people with different religions had a common culture and identity in pre-modern non-secular societies. In fact, common religion was a hugely important denominator of ethno-cultural identity in such societies. Anthony D. Smith, the leading expert in Nationality and Ethnicity studies himself has repeatedly stressed in his work the fact that in pre-modern societies people with different religions could never have a common identity, even when they spoke a similar dialect. Have in mind that most people in the Balkans during the Ottoman era were bilingual or even trilingual. Nowadays that religion is not all that important, not only to Albanians but to over 50% percent of all Europeans and the notions of modern "nation" do not include religion as a basic component for the indication of ethnic or national identity, it's easy for Albanian "historians" to turn black into white and try to propagandize for a pre-existing common Albanian ethnic identity. But in pre-modern societies religion was one of the core components for ethnic identification. Identities until around 200 years ago or so, were a mix of ethno-cultural and religious identities. The Arvanites and the Arberesh NEVER- EVER self-identified as Sqipetars. On the other hand the muslim and catholic Sqipetars also wanted to disassociate themselves from the orthodox Arvanites who always had a Greek ethno-religious conscience. Btw, 1/3 of Arvanitika vocabulary is Greek-derived. Arberesh language also has a considerable percentage of Greek-derived vocabulary. In Arberesh language: "village" is hora from the GREEK χώρα [chóra] ('land, village') gjitonia "neighbourhood", from the GREEK γειτονία. dhaskal "teacher", from the GREEK δάσκαλος. "thank you" is haristís [xaɾiˈstis] from the GREEK ευχαριστώ [e̞fˌxariˈsto̞] ('thank you'). By the way, in Arvanitika its fharistisem. Different but again Greek derived.

@@erigreca3297 Schmitt, one of the most acknowledged modern expert scholars on Albanian studies, has repeatedly stated that in the past "Albanian" was simply a generic term and didn't always necessarily refer to the speakers of Albanian dialects but even to Greek-speakers or Vlach-speakers that resided in the geographic area of Arvanon. Later it even referred to mercenary corps or mountain people regardless of ethnicity. "The ethnonym "Albanian", where it is found in medieval sources, has one of the following meanings: a) Someone who speaks Albanian, b) someone from the geographical area of Albania, REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN, and c) a man of the mountains and the countryside." Schmitt Jens Oliver (2009), Skanderbeg: Der neue Alexander auf dem Balkan, pp. 353, 354 "We remark that the term "Albanian" is NOT AN ETHNIC qualification but, as the terms "Zouave" and "Dragon", is used as GENERIC to certain corps of infantry, formations of mercenaries recruited among Christians of Turkey. The Albanian Regiments were used also by the Italians and the French". Bode, Andreas (1975). «Albaner und Griechen als Kolonisten in Neurussland"», Beitrage zur Kenntnis Sudosteuropas und des Nahen Orients, Munchen, vol. 16 (1975), pp. 29-35

@@vangelisskia214 The Arberesh also has greek conscience until Mussolini's regime" . What an anonimable statement from you and from Mpiris and his Absolutely Rubbish book. First of all Arvanites did not have any greek conscience until the beginning of XX when the greek state was trying to do everything just de-albanize them. Arvanites spoke Albanian, had the same exact Tribal Society as that of the Albanians. As for the Arberesh, now I will break down your fairytales and those of this so called Mpiris, just with ONE EXAMPLE. Quote from the great Arberesh, Francesco Crispi to Girolamo De Rada, another great Arberesh (Francesko Kryeshpi, Kryeshpi means HeadHouse) *Albanese di Sangue e di Cuore* Do you know what It means? It means ALBANIAN BY BLOOD AND BY HEART! Do you know when he was born ? Year 1818 !

As un nuk e gjeta letren, por burimi im është marrë nga libri i Arben P Llallës. Nëse lëvizni poshtë tek faqja 71, ai e thotë se ku e gjeti citimin e Professor Marko Botsaris të 1994. www.academia.edu/48876353/ARVANITES_THE_FOUNDERS_OF_MODERN_GREECE PS, nese e gjen letren, të lutem ma dergon një link.

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle Po e gjeta nuk do te harroj. Shum video e bukur per neve Shqiptarët emigrant qe s'kemi mësuar historinë e Arbërisë në shkoll edhe duet ti mësoim vetë. Nuk besoj si të terë ishin Shqiptar por nuk ishin edhe të terë Grek. E vërteta është gjithmonë në mest. Shpresoj se Shqiptarët edhe Grekt do behen një shtet, një popull si ishte një kohe. S'ka Shqipëri pa Grek edhe s'ka Greki pa Shqiptar.

Por nuk eshte e nevojshme sepse vete histereografia greke ne dy dokumentare zyrtar e cilesojne Makon me origjine shqiptare dhe e pranojne qe mesoi greqisht ne moshen 19 vjec.

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Fair comment and very grounded. Indeed the mini documentary had some mistakes which those who are very familiar with history and sources facts can notice the mistakes. Above all gives around 80% a very good image of that time.

Yeah that is true it was a religions separation and not a race one . Greek was a title it was not a nation . The difference is you guys have more races in your than we do .

Ottoman Empire tried to suppress Albanian national identity. Schools in Albanians weren’t allowed. Who taught Albanian was harshly punished. They couldn’t let the most fierce people identify to flourish. It would translate in trouble for them. They draw an equating line like Muslim=turk. Orthodox=greek. Greek schools were widely allowed and Greek priests as well. Which benefited greatly to Greeks to assimilate non Greeks and to manufacture “brand new Greeks”. You carrying same mindset. I’m Orthodox Albanian from Souli and I’m Albanian. So national identity has nothing to do with religious affiliation. So take that turk label and shove it down right there where the sun never shines.

​@@mindmazetitanYou are Alpinid, Dinarid, Mediterranid mixed.. we are predominantly Mediterranid Aegeans, followed by Pontid.

​@@mindmazetitan Greek is an identity, based on a particular ethnos who's predominantly neolithic Aegean and hold an Hellenic common culture, millenary identity.

@@hellenicnationalism7608 Using a term like alpinid is saying you are a European.. that is very vague . Is no doubt that ancient Greeks existed and some of them have the same ancestors with today's Greek but with the time of Byzantine, Roman and Turkish empire things changed and when Greece was formulated was made upon religion. To be a orthodox was the number 1 criteria, and not your race . For example Arvanites were the same race as Albanians but since they were orthodox you guys become one nation . Ofc you have also Slavs and Turkish . When it come to Albanians our thing was the race and the language not the religion . The big powers didn't want us to be a nation since it was not one religion and it was a mixture and many Christian Albanians said if it takes us to drop our religion to be a nation with our Muslim brothers we will do so . The concept of religion and culture was how almost all countries got created except a few like Albania Finland and few more that I don't recall. Look it up make your own research I am not a nationalist. Greeks and Albanians we share more similarities than differences

Shqip-far. Fara shqiponje.

ahahahaahah ja ke qr. Shqip'kar do thoja une

@@Zinimust arvan,van ne ar,ar van......shqip tar,tara shqiponj,e gjitha shqiponj....shqip te tar,te gjith

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the most hidden fact from modern Greek history is that the Arvanites are autochthonous in Greece up to the Peloponnese or More since ancient times, regardless of the waves of emigration that came from Albania. the Greek term is romios, it is an artificial language, it is Orthodoxy. there is no Greek race

@@mikaelfire6056 Artificial language ? Damn I guess all the ancient greek and byzantine greek texts must be fake then. By the way do not speak for what you don't know. Romios is the greek word for Rum (what the turks called the Greeks when they invaded Anatolia)

@audyssea no the Greeks called themselves romio after Roman's. So how are modern Greeks, hellenes if they themselves said they were Roman's? Just askin

@@hloi4545 y'all really seem to like trasktalking on things you do not know much. When you say "after romans" i suppose you uncultured swine mean after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. The inhabitants of Eastern Roman Empire (called Byzantium from the 18th century), were à mix of Albanians, Hellenes, Slavs (Bulgars, Serbs, etc...) and all called themselves Rum (Romaoi in Greek) since they considered themselves the legitimate descedents of the Roman Empire (look up the division of the Empire on the internet it is too long to explain). Now the modern balkan states aren't based on their religion (as the dumbass who commented earlier said), otherwise we would have a single orthodox country called Romania (or smth like that). The modern balkanique states base themselves on the linguistic, cultural, and historic specificities. The reason why modern day historians try to prove their legitimacy over the others is because they are corrupted in their normally objective work by nationalistic believes. Now for the case of Greece, the reason why some shortminded self-learning "historians" (bloggers) have the nerve of saying stuff like "Greek is an artificial language" (despite centuries of written evidence) is because their is a global misunderstanding between "byzantium" (which was a Greek led multi-ethnic Empire) but based on religion, and modern Greece

Arvanites didn’t migrate! Tosk and Gheg migrated, arvanites where already there ! Made up propaganda from Modern Greece

Thank you so much for your generous dono MrObeytok!

Ofcourse. 1. Albanian nazi division 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg that was disbanded cause of warcrimes. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg 2. Albania signed to become protectorate of Italy and aided Italy to invade Greece. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_protectorate_of_Albania_(1939%E2%80%931943) 3. Ottoman commander Mustafa Paşa Buşatlı of Skhodre along with 10000 Albanians tried to quell the Greek revolution. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karpenisi

@@skeptim8096 I'm so sorry but Albanian history isn't only SS Skanderbeg and something like that, so sorry😂😂😂😂

@@shqipemalesore2620 Ofcourse. "Click Read more" and you will find out more.

@@skeptim8096 bad blood

@@shqipemalesore2620 What's wrong with Skanderbeg Division? Germans made modern Albania, just like they made modern Greece a state from the Ottoman empire... Germans (Austrians included) hate Slavic people, and wanted to bring up another "race" in South-Eastern Europe... first they "discovered" Greece... and sponsored its revival in 1821 with money and everything they could, along with the British and French. Germans gave Greece the first king Otto in 1832... and later in 1913 they gave Albania another king, Wilhelm von Wied. It is logical that Albanians would side with the Germans... don't forget that Germans made Great Albania a reality long before the war in Kosovo in 1999 and Kosovo's independence after the NATO bombardments on Serbia.

Albanians are stealing greek history, we should intervene.

@@AlEx-jk8kg you should learn history a little bit and understand how Greece was created in 1821!

@@zouzou6358 Ancient greeks.

@@AlEx-jk8kg hi mister italian youtubeing lately greek historians they telling haw greek modern become as a state and he's bin build by albanian dig up bit on your name as you cal your self you tuber and you will see by GREEK HISTORIANS AND WHAT THEY SAYING ABOUT THERE COUNTRY AN WHO BUILD GREEK SO CHECK GREEK HISTORIANS WHAT THEY SAYING THAN HALF OF GREEK PARLIAMENT IN 19 CENRTRY WAS ALBANIANS I'M NOT SAYING THAT BUT GREEK HISTORIANS .

@@zouzou6358 Ur a clown😂

They never gonna accept that Arvanites are of Albanian ethnicity because the whole Greek History would fall under Albanian History, how they would look to the world 😮 that’s why they Never accept the language. Russia and Europe created Greece with 6-7 minorities but Albanian was the biggest, Albanians are Byzantine people

salutes brother … long live our ancestors who once were the masters of balkan region … who had greatest heroes of all time 🇦🇱⚔️⚔️⚔️⚔️

Your great great great grand parents were greeks and over time they started to speak albanian just like the arvanites in greece that most can only speak greek

Chams werent Albanians, Chams were Muslim sarakatsanis and vlachs.Not albanian at all.

@@michaelhadjimichael4778 😂😂😂 you’ve got to be joking 🤣🤣 even in ancient times Greek historians say that Epirus was populated by barbarians who spoke a different language than Greek later they called them Illyrians and now Albanian arvanit

I truly commend you for acknowledging the truth what the Arvanites community had to endure over the centuries! A famous Albanian proverb says, "Lies has short legs. Sooner or later, the truth will catch up to them."

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle thank you brother :)

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@@TonyTony-ks3gu we albanians - arberesh(italy)-arvanites(greece)-arnaut(turkey)-albanians(kosovo,macedonia) - ALL SAME BLOOD ! WE ARE FAMILY ,so how can i hate greeks when a lot of them have albanian blood without even knowing it ? how can i hate my family ?

@@numero-_-uno jam 🇦🇱me ❤️

That's because Erasmian pronunciation is a dated artificial reconstruction of (Ancient) Greek made by a 16th century western scholar. As such, it sounds from inaccurate to laughable to Greek ears. See ukposts.info/have/v-deo/en-imKiOo4hlqKs.html regarding one of Erasmus' major reconstruction errors, which also includes information on modern (Ancient) Greek language reconstruction and an explanation of how Ancient Greek pronunciation evolved into Modern Greek pronunciation through the Koine.

The real question should be why didn't the "Great Powers" support the powerful Albanian revolts that happened before the greek revolts? Aren't you aware that albanians revolted many times during early 1800's? The answer to your question is religion. Back then the greek church labeled anyone orthodox christian as greek and the ottoman mosque labeled muslims as turks. This caused a big division between albanians. The "greek" wars of independence were mostly fought between muslim and christian albanians. If Albania had even half of the aid that greeks got by the Great Powers then Albania would have declared independence before Greece. But they never helped us, why? Well idk maybe because we had a muslim majority who knows?

Arvanites were just like Albanians, they did not even think about an Albanian State or a Greek State! They wanted just to live free in their lands and did not wanted to pay taxes to a foreign invader. I'm Albanian and I think that our ancestors were great fighters but had no idea how to build a State. Greeks were much more advanced in civilization and administration. Even during Ottoman Empire, the Albos were among the best soldiers of the Empire while the greeks were the administration of the Empire! The only Albanian leader (after Skanderbeg) who tried to create an Albanian State was Ali Pasha of Tepelena ( and I think that greeks teached him a lot cuz almost all of his Pashaluk administration was greek). Unfortunately he did not receive support by the big European Powers!

​@@albarmy1 Arbanites never fought for Shqiperia, only for Hellas, they didn't recognize this term, as their language was Doric Greek.

​​@@erigreca3297Georgios Kastriotis is Greco-Serbian. He was an Arbanite, not a Shqipetar.

Wow 120 Nkr.. Tusen takk for donasjonen din Jeton! Høyt verdsatt!!

During late 1700's and early 1800's Janina was the biggest and most important albanian city.

Most of historical capitals were in southern Albania. Later on the capital was moved to Tirana due to the influence of King Zog as he wanted the capital to be closer to his area of influence (Mati region). You need to study more.

@@albarmy1 True but weren’t cities like Berat, Shkodër, Lezhë, Krujë, Prizren, and Prishtinë more important at the time? But I do know that Janina was the capital of Ali Pashë’s Albanian Pashalik of Yanina which ruled all of southern Albania and much of Greece.

@@albarmy1 You’re right. Vlorë was the capital for a brief time but don’t forget that Prizren was the capital during the League of Prizren (1878 - 1881) and Lezhë was the capital during the League of Lezhë (1444 - 1479).

@@albarmy1 Tirana became the capital of Albania in 1920. Didn’t Zog come to power in 1924?

Ca thot o vlla,Si e i perkufizon,kujt i jep perparsi grekve apo shqiptarve,sjam mir me anglishten

Distinct meanings, languages and peoples.

Greeks calling Albanians multi ethnic... ironic 😂

@@southepirote7676 "The coastal Himara region of Southern Albania has always had a predominantly ethnic Greek population." "Albania: The state of a nation". ICG Balkans Report N°111. p. 15. Archived from the original (PDF) on 8 August 2010. Retrieved 2 September 2010

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@@southepirote7676 "Greeks, Armenians, Jews, Persians, Chinese and Japanese could be cited as examples of ethnic continuity, since, despite massive cultural changes over the centuries, certain key identifying components-name, language, customs, religious community and territorial association-were broadly maintained and reproduced for millennia.“ Anthony D Smith 2003, Chosen Peoples: Sacred Sources of National Identity, p. 98

@@southepirote7676 And the analbanians?! Where are they?!! lol NOWHERE TO BE FOUND!

No no he doesn’t make it for Albania or maybe it was Albania or something and we know that this people protect the Greek Land and his minorities. The problem is more what Modern Greece has become, they banned their language why not accepting as a 2 language Arvanites created the first Capital in Nafplio but in Tosk language. They can be Greek but they where our brothers back then also, me as a Gheg Albanian i can understand their songs to 95% and you should als know that the Arvanite are Autokton in Greece, Tosk Albanians from Epirus and Gheg Albanians migrated to Greece

@@Arber-4673 maybe you are right, I don't believe in black and white, and my country probably has its fair shares of human rights violations, but this channel has huge nationalist propaganda. He says that when the muslims where sent to turkey in the population exchange it was to supress their identity, while Greece was actually forced to do that, and it remains one of the most painful traumatisms of our people

@@audyssea i understand that it was also painful for the Greeks that lived under Turkish regime but 1 thing that violated Greece against his Albanian Muslim minority was : the Greece president of this time, i don’t remember his name, promises to the Albanian Ambassador of Greece, i think it was one of the Frasheri brothers that they would exchange only the non- Albanian Muslims, he wouldn’t touch the Albanian minority but he didn’t hold his word, the best thing that we can move on and be good neighbors in the future is to clear and speak about the Cham issues because it was really bad for them what they where going through.

@@Arber-4673 I think you are right, what has to be done today is for it to be aknowledged. It probably is too late for reparations since it's been three generations (I wouldnt for exemple see my family move back to turkey), but the pain can't heal if those responsables aren't pointed, and if the countries (mainly greece and turkey) do not aknowledge this part of their history... same goes for the armenians, whos genocide is still to be recognised... anyway thanks for your comment, i was expecting only shortminded nationalists to answer

When Arvanites left Albania, Albanians were 100% Christians with the majority of the population being eastern orthodox!

Sorry but in the Last hundred years albanians were assimilated by the greek State and forced to hate themselves. Alot of greeks have mostly albanian Heritage

Lies:)

„Most Albaniand converted to Islam out of fear….Greek didn’t“ You know we have about 300 Revolts against the Ottomans ( without Arvanites). Please show me 1 Revolt of thue great Greeks ( no Arvanites revolt! ), there is only one the Orlov 🇷🇺🇬🇷! You don’t know that the Greeks and Slavs where protected by the Byzantine Church ( ruled from Russia ) ? You don’t know that the Byzantine Church didn’t accept the Albanian Church?? Why ?? Our Land men !

Albanians converted into islam almost 300 years after their country fell to the ottomans. Albanians made the most stubborn resistance against ottomans. Why did they convert to islam? Because there wasn't an albanian church. The orthodox churches started to manipulate albanians trying to covert them to greeks or serbs (like they did with arvanites). Threatened by this, albanians decided to convert to islam in order to preserve their identity as albanians.

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@@ChildrenOfTheEagle 🤣🤣love how you point him towards the facts without saying nothing...love it . Epic.

@@thorgunderson-theswede86 what facts?that's just propaganda

@@user-mf6rq9cp5z You are the one who is believing in lies but you don’t see it since you are blind. Open your eyes.

@@user-mf6rq9cp5z Ha! The same ORTHODOX mentality as your “BRATHERS” (Serbs) as you guys say in Greece. Propaganda is ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that calls you out on your bullshit. Ohhhhhhh Grekos, you’ve been brainwaaaaaaasssssshhhhhhhhheeeeeeddddddd. WAAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEEEEE UPPPPPPPP.

Elena koxaki has a cretan surname, she is not Albanian at all, she is just a pshychopath nazi. Go see Kosovars doing dna test and score hellenic.Albania was a Greek colony.

It is highly probable that Korkodeilos Kladas was of Albanian origin. First, he served as a Stratioda (mercenary) for the Venetians, and in Venetian records he is expressly referred to as "Albanese" rather than Greek. As a paid mercenary, he defended the Venetian castle of Bardhuna, meaning "The White One" in Albanian, located in the Mani region of the Peloponnese. Although he led the Stratioda, Venetian records also document his collaboration with Gjon Kastrioti, Skanderbeg's father, to fight against the Ottomans. Lastly, there is a possibility that he was is Greek. However, given his strong connection to Mani, his birthplace, and the ancient toponym associated with it, which modern Greek historians recognize as having an Albanian meaning ("Mulberry"), have a strong historical continuity of Albanian presence in the Mani region for thousands of years.

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle source for you and dinosaurs 🦖 were Albananians everything in earth are Albanians, aliens were Albanians, Egyptians were Albanians but for all rest world history were Greeks and Kastriotis Giorgios was from Kastoria Kastoriotis origin what mean Kastoras in Greek language ok ancient Albania was in Caucasus for this your faces are wide faces Brachycephals and not Dolichocephals long faces like skulls Illyrians and Ancient Greeks and after you will say that Napoleon Zervas was Albanian but did the big Genoside after from Krokodeilos Kladas and Theodoros Kolokotronis against Albanians.

​​@@ChildrenOfTheEagle shane if you. Lies ντροπή σου

​@@ChildrenOfTheEaglewhy you call kastrioti skenderbey? Because his original last name is greek ? Why you dont visit the greek museum to read the letters and see what they said ? Example Μάρκος Μπότσαρης wrote hellene can feel free when British flag is on the island i mean all these are written by them they wrote the letters they talked about ancient greece they talked about palaiologos its all written You have your 1821 history you have ali pasha Omer vrioni etc

​@@TartarusPyroKastrioti a greek name ? OMG! First of all let's fix it once and for all. Do you know where Kastrioti's descendants live? I tell you, they live in Italy. One of them is Loris Castriota, he has never and ever declared that he is Greek but he is very proud of his Albanian roots. Now let me tell you something new, Gjergj Kastrioti was born in NORTHERN ALBANIA ( Where greek presence and influence is equal to ZERO ). The birth place of his origin is Sina, a village that exist even today in Debar region, North East Albania! Before getting the last name "Kastrioti" his ancestors had the last name "Mazreku" which is still very common among Albanians and it means "Horse Breeder". Kastrioti aka Skanderbeg in turkish LORD ALEXANDER in honor of ALEXANDER THE GREAT , was Albanian and fought as an Albanian!

Hahahah malaka türkalbaner haben millionen von griechenarvaniten ermordet und geschlachtet als ob sie tieren waren so lächerlich was euch in albanien oder kosovo euch da erzählt wird euch wird erzählt dass es brüder von euch sind aber keiner die Wahrheit ans licht bringt dass ihr millionen egal ob griechen oder arvanitas geschlachtet habt kein arvanite in griechenland hat je behauptet dass albaner und arvaniten brüder sind dass ist alles eure propaganda ,ließ doch mal mein freund die bücher von den freicheitskäpfer griechenlands was arvaniten über albaner schreiben ✍️ dann können wir weiterreden,echt traurig wer diese doku erschaffen hat da Wird gesagt dass die soulioten keine fahne hatten hahahah und sie druck von griechieschen bekommen haben alles bullshit hahahahahah echt schade was Albaner erfinden aber mit euch macht es kein sinn friedlich zu diskutieren alles fanatiker vorallem kosovaren haben nur einen tunnelblick und alles dreht sich über albanien aber waren noch nie in südalbanien wo die ganzen antiquen städte da unten griechisch sind und auch griechisch beschriftet und bewiesen apollonia,butrint.antigonea und viele andere noch aber wie gesagt mit fanatikern macht es kein sinn !!!!!!!!!

@@dimi302 es gibt keine Türkalbaner , es gibt nur Albaner oder Türken . Sowas gibt es nicht .

ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gWOKjqWKea5or2g.html euch wurde soviel Blödsinn, die Albaner haben auch unter den Türken gelitten und gegen die gekämpft

O bujar... Po pse nuk shkrun shqip...apo te duket vetja gjerman...

@@FatosssQamaaa-dr3kc Per shkak se te tjeret me kuptuar , ne Shqiptaret e njohem Historin e Arvaniteve Kurse te tjerat jo . Te pershendes.

Johann Georg von Hahn 1811-1869: "The modern Greeks are, in the greater part, nothing more than Christianized Albanians." Jacob Philipp Fallmerayer 1790-1861: "The Greek War of Independence was a "purely Shqiptarian (Albanian), not a Hellenic Revolution." James Henry Skene 1812-1886: "The Albanians of Greece are called Arvaniti by the Greeks, and Arnaout by the Turks, but they call themselves Shqiptar."

@MRAlexis99 Fallenmyer was a racist with political motivation. He has been debunked completely even by his colleagues at the time. His theories are not based on any proper scientific studies or surveys. This is cutting-edge stuff , 1830s theories that have been completely debunked. A 2017 comprehensive DNA scientific study of the Peloponnese population totally disproves his theories. It was found the closest genetic population of the population is Sicily and Southern Italy. Sorry, not Albanian. BTW Fallenmyers theories were used by the Nazis to excuse their atrocities committed against the Greeks in that they were not Aryans. So I wouldn't quote him as he saw Albanians as inferior people.

Arvanites🇦🇱 and Albanians🇦🇱 are one race, have one blood and speak one language but I know very well is hard for you to understand the truth because you don’t speak the Albanian language. If you could speak Albanian then you would understand immediately what we are trying to tell you so many years. I will tell you something that I’m sure you don’t know. The reason you don’t know is because in the Greek propaganda they avoid the mention the most important word, a key word to unlock the secret of Arvanites ones and for all. The 🔑 word is: Arbëreshë. The Arvanites are the Arbëreshë people. The Arvanites in their own language which you can’t understand a word, refer to themselves as Arbëreshë and not as Arvanitis. Arvanitis was a term used by the Greek people to refer to Albanian people. The Albanians on the other hand use the term Arbëreshë to refer to themselves exactly as the Arvanites do. The term Shqiptar that modern day Albanians use to refer to themselves is relatively new as it spread in early 18th century. The Arvanites of Italy also refer to themselves as Arbëreshë and some times as Shqiptar also. You say that Arvanites are Greeks who forgot their Greek language. This is incorrect and I will tell you why. First of all you should research the Arbëreshë people who are the Arvanites of Italy. The Arbëreshë people left Peloponnesus (then called Morea) during the 14th and the 15th century because of the ottomans and migrated to south and central Italy. The Arbërësh people of today speak only Albanian and Italian but they can’t speak Greek, if Arvanites could always speak Greek the Arbërësh of Italy would speak it too because the Arbërëshe people are Arvanites and lived in Greece for centuries before they left for Italy. If Arvanites are Greeks then the Arbëreshë would speak three languages, Albanian, Greek and Italian but they only speak Albanian and Italian, they don’t speak the Greek language that only the modern Arvanites speak. The problem is that the modern Greeks don’t even know who these Arbëreshë people are, they don’t know that Arvanites live in other countries as well. The Arbëreshë people are the Albanians of Italy. Arvanites are the Albanians of Greece, Arbanasi are the Albanians of Croatia, Arnaut are the Albanians in turkey (Arnaut is a Turkish word translated from Arvanitis not Albanian but still a word that refer to Albanians or Arvanites because they are one and the same. The Albanians of Italy the Arbëreshë are the same people with the Arvanites of Greece and during the 13th century they lived together as one race in Morea, Attica and other places. The good thing is that Italy is a really democratic nation and allowed the Arbëreshë to keep their language and speak it openly so the Arbëreshë today still speak Albanian, their true mother tongue. Italy did the same with the Greeks of Italy the Griko People or Grecanici as they are called. This Griko people still speak the Greek language and they are proud Greeks as the Arbëreshë are proud to be Albanians. But Greece did to Arvanites something very different from Italy, Greece brainwashed them in to believing that they are not Albanian but Greeks only because they were orthodox Christians, Greece did the same with 350.000 Karamanlides who were Turkish orthodox Christians and came to Greece in 1922 with the population exchange and live in Greece now and if you ask them they will say we are Greeks. Modern Greece is nothing more than a religious state, that’s all and we all know that very very well.

@@MRAlexis99 First of all they were 10-20% of the population. What about the other 80% of the Greeks? Did they play no part in their own history of independence? I suggest you buy books and read about the 1821 revolution , how it came about and its participants etc. After 800 years they not part of your history, they are part of Greece and Greek history . A lot happens in 800 years. They became very very Greek and you became their mortal Ottoman enemies. They stayed true to their Greek Orthodox faith , fully assimilated with the population, and fought to the death for Greece's freedom and would rather die than surrender to Turkalbanians as they referred to you, and afterwards participated to form the first Greek states. You can't be more Greek than that. It would be like me saying Greeks unified Italy because a large part of Southern Italy and Sicily are of Greek decent. Not only that , you were the enemy that tried to quell the revolution by brutal means. Now 200 years later you want to take credit for Greek freedom. With respect but even on a simple level Greeks (Greek Arvanites included ) have totally different appearances. Albanians have their own distinct features separate from Greeks and Greeks have their own. I see this nothing more as garbage historical disinformation with some hidden ulterior motive.

Albanian people are the missing link that connect modern Greeks with ancient Greeks. If you are not Albanian you can’t prove you are Greek. By saying that the Arvanites were only 10-20% of the population in Greece you are 100% incorrect. Until 1922 Arvanites were the great majority of Greece. You should know that all those foreign visitors who visited Greece during 18th and 19th century they were amazed by the fact that while their were waiting to meet the Greeks they instead met a place full of different races of people of whom the Albanians were the majority as all of them said and wrote about it time and time again. You should know also that orthodox Albanians many times were called Greeks because of their orthodox faith while Muslim Albanians were called Turks. But the fact of the matter is that they were all Albanians and not Greeks in the modern meaning of the term Greek. As you may know in 1922-23 the population exchange took place between Greece and Turkey, 1.200.000 Pontic people came from Asia manor to Greece along with 350.000 Karamanlides. Pontic population was a mixture of different races of people, like Greek, Armenians and Arabs while the Karamanlides were purely Turkish in origin and could not speak a single word in Greek language when they arrived in Greece for the first time. Both Pontics and Karamanlides were Orthodox Christians, their faith alone was enough for Greece who was created as a religious state to accept them despite the fact that they were a mixture of different people. In Greece of that time as long as you were an orthodox then you could be considered Greek even if you were not a Greek. You could very well be a Turkish or Georgian orthodox back then and today your grandsons to fell 100% pure Greeks and make a tattoo of a Spartan soldier in their back to show the world how proud Greeks they are, not knowing or pretending not to know that their grandparents were only orthodox believers and not Greeks in blood. You should learn that in 1821 the population of Greece was consisted of these races: Albanians, Vlachs, Slavs, Arabs, Turks, Jews, Gypsies and Tatars. The term Greek was long forgotten, nobody said I’m Greek back then because the term Greek was a referring to paganists of the ancient world. All the orthodox people were called Rum by the Ottomans, when you say to a modern Greek why the term Greek isn’t mentioned anywhere for so many centuries they say that Greeks were mentioned under the name Rum but the term Rum was referring to all orthodox people in general regardless of any ethnicity, people like Albanians, Vlachs, Slavs and so on were called Rum by the Ottomans because they all were orthodox Christians. So the big question is out of all those races that I mentioned above who are the real descendents of Ancient Greeks. The answer is simple: the Albanians, only the Albanians can be descendents of the ancient Greeks because the Albanian language is the language that Homer spoke, is the language the Homer wrote Odyssey and Iliad. The problem is that modern Greeks get confused by the name Albanian or Albanian language. Only when you comprehend that the Albanian language is the mother tongue of modern Greek language the truth will shine in you. Koine Greek is used for about 2000 years, Albanian (Homeric Langauge) is used for more than 8.000 years. Go and learn who the Arbëreshë people are and you will have the truth. The only real Greeks are the Albanian people and the Homeric language is the most authentic Greek language but is spoken only by the Albanians because is their language. You say the Greeks forgot their language in 800 years and are now called Arvanites because they speak Albanian. I tell you that the Gypsies that are spread to so many countries still speak their mother tongue which is a dialect of Hindi language and you say that Greeks who created one of the worlds greatest civilizations couldn’t keep their language but the Gypsies could. You are wrong my friend. Arvanites are Christian Albanians who fought against Tourko-Albanians like Tourko-Cretans fought against orthodox Cretans. The fact that they fought doesn’t mean they are not of the same blood it just means that they had different religion and ideology.

yes but let the people dream they like it

@@Arber-4673 yeah and Jesus was muslim too😆

@@Arber-4673 nani greece have both ethnicity and religion, not like occupants turks established in albania and said today there are albanians, pse s shkon ne arabi por shkon ne europe? se e shku te karpremet ne arabi ma me vjedh ta presin

@@antonbala755 which ethnicity they have ? Go watch the ottoman taxpayers from Greece!! You will not find one Greece name ! We are not brainwashed like the 🇬🇷🇦🇱🏳️‍🌈 in Greece! We fight for Kosovo Albania and Macedonia! And you ? I’m pretty sure you have Greek identity and are very proud. Shko shite veten ! Edhe ne greqi ki Ma shum arab se te na 😂 kta ci quhen turk te na, Jan shqiptar te assimiluar

Greece has always been there

"Young men recruited from among Greeks and Albanians. They were known as stradioti from the Greek word for soldier." Nicol, Donald M. (1988). Byzantium and Venice: A Study in Diplomatic and Cultural relations. Cambridge, New York: Cambridge University Press. p. 37

They were even up to north of France, Belgium and Netherlands! I dont remember the name of a historian who had found the documents of the Albanian Stradiotes settling in Strasbourg. They were well known soldiers all around Europe. Most of them settled in Italy and lost their traces during the centuries!

I'm a proud Greek as anyone but I also love my history. I have read historical documents from the era. Throughout the middle ages the Arvanites in Greece were referred to as Albanians (mainly). I am reading Finlays history of Greece written in the 1850s. He clearly refers to them as Albanians. The first Ottoman census in the 1400s describes them as Albanians living in the Peloponnese. Their names, language, villages were all Albanian (just like the Ancient Macedonians were Greek). It is only in the last 150 years that the name Arvanite became more widespread.

@@nicks6096 which source referred to Arvanites as Albanians?

Regarding the idiom of the word Arbër, Arvanite or Arnavut is typically specific to the Albanian language and culture. One of the earliest known references to the Albanian people can be found in an ancient Illyrian inscription from the 2nd century AD, known as the Tabula Peutingeriana, which refers to Albanoi. Sure, Michael Attaleiates did mention that the Albanians MAY have come from the region of the Caucasus Mountains, but he didn't mention when the Albanians migrated from that region. So the "Caucasus" argument is not that scientific. What is scientific however, is the studies of the genetic marker of E-v13. This DNA marker, which is found at high frequencies among Albanian populations, can easily attest to when and where the marker migrated from and where it settled. These studies have suggested that it may be linked to the spread of the Illyrian language and culture in the region during the Bronze Age, which means that Albanians are related to Illyrians by blood, language, culture and geographically.

@@ChildrenOfTheEagle The city/area of Arber has no connection either linguistic, historical or geographic with the region of Arvanon. Mount Arvon is an ancient Greek toponym and was mentioned for the first time by Polybius (203-120 BC). On the other side, Albanian historical presence in the region was first documented in the late 14th ce, which coincides with the arrival of Ottomans Turks in the Hersonissus of Haemus. The hypothesis of Illyria connection to Albanians was introduced as propaganda to the Albanians by Austro-Hungarians and Italians during the beginning of 20th ce in order to make Albania a vassal state (Mussolini 1938). Till now, there is no historical, archaeological or linguistic connection between ancient Illyrians and Albanians (even Matzinger, one of the most influential and prominent Albanologist denied this claim). As of Albanopolis, scientists still haven’t verified its location while Ptolemy has provided us with a detailed description of “Albaniae Pilae” located by the Caspian Sea in Schirvan and Derbent or Derven. Arvanites are a prime example of how Albanians conquered lands from the autochthonous Greek Epirots.

Epirote exactly, therefore ALBANIAN!

Αδελφε , ενας αρβανιτης σε ενα σχολιο εγραψε οτι οι αρβανιτες ειναι το 1% του πληθυσμου της ελλαδος Καλο ειναι να ξεκαθαρισουμε και τι ακριβως ειναι ο αρβανιτης Εγω ειμαι απο ηπειρο απο τα συνορα και ξερω οτι στην νοτια αλβανια οι τραγουδιστες τραγουδανε σε 4 γλωσσες .Ελληνικα , βλαχικα, αλβανικα και σλαβικα .Ολοι αυτοι τωρα στα σχολια ειναι ελληνες γενιτσαροι(τσαμηδες) , που μιλαγαν μονο ελληνικα και ειναι η πλειοψηφια .Αλλοι εχουν ως μητρικη τα βλαχικα , αλλοι τα σλαβικα και αλλοι τα αλβανικα . Ολοι αυτοι στα σχολια ειναι μουσουλμανοι που παιζουν ενα πολιτικο παιχνιδι .Πουλανε 'αλβανιλικι' που δεν υπαρχει Δεν θελω να σε στεναχωρησω ,αλλα το χωριο μου ειναι κοντα στα χωρια του σουλιου Ουτε ο μποτσαρης , ουτε ο τζαβελας ηταν αρβανιτες .Και στις λεγομενες 'φαρες' μονο ενα επιθετο ειναι αλβανικο .Τα αλλα δεν ειναι .Μη μου πεις οτι ο κουτσονικας ηταν αρβανιτης ; Και τους 'τσαμηδες' τους καθαρισαν πολλοι απο το χωριο μου , που ηταν στον ζερβα και δεν ειχαν σχεση ουτε με αρβανιτες , ουτε με βλαχους ουτε με τιποτα απο αυτα.Ξερω τι σου λεω.Απο το χωριο μου ηταν ο πιο γνωστος καπετανιος της ηπειρου του 1912 .Καμια σχεση με 'αρβανιτες' ,'βλαχους' .Ουτε καν με σαρακατσανους Του εγραψαν λοιπον ενα τραγουδι που λεει κατι τετοιο περιπου ' καπετανιε , μαζεψε βλαχους απο την θεσπρωτια , την θεσσαλια και πολεμα '. Το οτι ενας βλαχος θελησε να του γραψει ενα τραγουδι δεν σημαινει οτι ο καπετανιος ηταν βλαχος .Τα 'πρωτοπαλικαρα' ηταν θειοι του παππου μου και το χωριο , αδελφε, δεν εχει και την καλυτερη γνωμη γι' αυτους .Δεν λεει κανεις οτι δεν πολεμησαν οι αρβανιτες , αλλα και αυτο τωρα ηταν ολοι αρβανιτες , ενταξει ειναι λιγο τραβηγμενο

Arvanites are Albanian indigenous is western Greece part of Albania.

@@southepirote7676 yeah? lol . If the Albanians want, they can test their rage again.

Arvanites Are Albanian.

They didn’t fight for the freedom of Greece. They fought for their own freedom. And what happened after is that they were forced to change their identity and hate their origin and blood as if it was a crime. The same thing happens today where greek government treats albanian immigrants as if they were guilty of being albanian. They teach them that albanians are turks, u educated, criminals and all the bad things. The result us that albanian immigrants in Greece deny their origin because they feel embarrassed. The same thing happened with arvanites and souliotes. Being albanian is not embarrassing, we are proud to be one of the most ancient population and one of the most peaceful populations who never attacked any other country and never started a war!

So what Ottoman Albanians also fought against Albania and his independence! Ottoman Empire! Albanians became Slaves of this Empire! No Albanian Education and Byzantine Church that had Autonomy didn’t accept an Albanian Church officially! It was a fight against Albanian Ethnicity from all sides ! South Slavs didn’t accept Albanian Christians that sided with them they destroyed them later like Greece also did ! Arvanites spoke Albanian but today it became taboo to speak about them and their ethnicity in Greece! It’s not the fault of Greek people you became also victims of the chauvinistic Megali Idee!

Arvanites are Albanian

@@katerinatsoliakou235 i like your albanian surname 🤣🤣🤣

@@katerinatsoliakou235 Ζητημα να καταλαβες το σχολιο μου.

I’m the proof that you’re an ignorant liar. My grandfather it’s from Souli. And I’m proudly orthodox Albanian. Since you stated Albanians killed Arvanites which Arvanites my ancestors killed?

If 06:35 - 07:33 are not sources enough and that challenges your perspective, then you'll probably don't have an opened mind to ancient record's and will most likely dismiss them.

lol cut it off , there is none more than 500 years '' by name ''

@@T-bag96 you dont answear me.....who is the oldest,, -

@osjmf what do u mean ? I am literally telling that the oldest city in albania is no more old than 500 years and greece has cities older than 2k years

@@T-bag96 so the oldest city is durres ....ok

@@osjmf1283 modern greeks are not connected to those ancient cities. so you are trying to compare total nonsense

He is. Their original surname was Gjika which is a typical surname only found in Albania (typical for the Vlora area).

@@albarmy1 what are your sources?

@@paulturner9542 he is blood related to Dora D'Istria. Capodistria means chief of Istria which is the peninsula on northern Adriatic sea between Croatia and Slovenia. Greeks do recognise that fact but they do not mention that their original surname was Gjika or Gikas (in greek language) and they were albanians. A branch of this family moved towards Macedonia and later to Romania where they became powerful noble family which had many prime ministers and voivodes. It' is sad that you guys don't know these facts but you only get brainwashed by the fascist greek state. Even some greek historians have accepted that his family did not originate from Corfu but rather in mainland southern Albania.

​@@albarmy1 Kapodistria family was of Italian lombarde origin and got the Surname Istria beacuse they ruled the city of Istria. WHAT KIND OF FAIRYTALES DO THEY TEACH YOU IN ALBANIA?

@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou this is exactly what I'm saying, except that he is of no italian but rather albanian origins. it's ok from greek to italian, you are one step closer to the truth. it's hard to realise when you have been brainwashed since kid by the verified neo-nazi state of Greece. Have you taught history in Golden Dawn's University or what? :D

My friend we are all albanians, we are the Same we share the Same blood but people gave u a different Name

@@adaradavina7450 I'm not Arvanite.

@@perseusarkouda Well doesn’t change the fact that arvanites are albanians

Τι να τους πουν? Οτι εθνικος τους Ηρωας πηρε τη Σημαια του Καστριωτη απο τον Αυστριακο πρξενο στην Ιταλια και τον αναγκασαν να κυρηξει με το ζορι ανξαρτησια. Μαλιστα επηδη αρνηθηκε επιτεθηκαν στην Αυλωνα οι Ιταλοι

@@Dynamo_Kyiv_Fans_Peristeriou hahahhahahaha delusional fascist greek. Go look it up what flag albanian rebels used before the independence. They used the black double-headed eagle on red background. Go cry now. 90% of your heroes are albanian.

Are same Greek Allbnany from Troy or Atlantis. Ylliri meaning New Star.😊😅😮😢🎉🎉😂❤.

@bashkimgjikokaj275 if that you say was true you wrote it in Greek my lonely friend

@@guitarfriend2022 Grykē,Grek See in Google Transzendenz is Trya or Atlantis. Greek wose Green Garten Edden in Bibel. Yes Greek Ylirka Allb Makedonien Epir are a same. Seed Gerhard von Attiqa Ingenieure Germany he Stadt Ocult Nolige. Yes.

The thing that makes me sicker is the fact that you pretend to be Albanian, it's obvious you're not. Second I know that you're smart enough to understand that he is talking about the foundation of the modern Greece, after 1821 not the ancient greece you're talking about. Third you should understand that there was no greek ethnicity during that time of history. It was artificially built with the help of great powers as a reflection of the ancient greek civilization, thus modern greek people are not related at all to ancient greek. Greek ethnicity is based on religion, byzantine orthodox religion. This is why during the early stages of the greek nation it was so easy for the greek government to classify all orthodox people as greek, despite their ethnicity. I'm an orthodox albanian myself and I like greek culture and mythology but I would never call myself a greek. Now imagine all the albanian like me back in the time where Albanian state was not created yet. Where do you think they would feel safer? In an turko albanian place controlled by ottomans or in a state that you could freely practice Christianity without being killed and tortured? Where do you think arvanited fitted? On the other hand the albanian ethnicity is blood related and tribal. Religion never united albanians. NEVER throughout history. And lastly nobody pretending Hellenes were albanians. This is Ancient history and it's another story.

@Georgio Skanderbeg so naive of you to reply in such a low spoken comment! Re-read my comment !!! First i am albanian and i am a proud albanian as i believe we have a very rich culture and history ourselves but please this is getting to much ! What orthodox byzantine u talking about ?? The Christianity came 300 years after jesus died we talking here even before jesus ! And to protect the argument with the idea of that ( they falsificated history with power ) bro even if they could have tried they could have never achieved it ! Cause to do that you have to change the history of the world not only that of greece and albania ! For the greeks you have indians you have persians you have elder civilizations such Chinese and egjyptians talking to ! And i know that very well that he is not talking about that of after 1800 ad but our historians literally keep saying that they ( greeks ) never existed! Please man - be true at least at yourself!! To us the albania is the first contry in the world ! We are the first humans on earth and our language is the oldest in the world ! And everything else is a lie and they stole it from us !!! I am convinced that we are wrong- our historians are wrong and yes for the sake of the truth of course there are certain thing that other countries took from us such as territory and wealth ! As we were full of gold ! But please dont touch the history !!!

@A Y we dont talk religion here we talk history ! As for the religion each individual have its own choice !!

@@T-bag96 o shqiptar. Nuk po them qe bota eshte shqiptare dhe jemi njerzit e pare ne planet. Jam dhe une dakord me ty qe disa historiane tik toku ja futin pordhes kot. Por nuk e permendi njeri historine antike dhe nuk e kuptoj pse duhet ta permendje kete gje pikerisht ne kete video qe skishte te bente fare me kete pjese te historise per te cilen po flasim. Por meqenese do ti futesh kesaj valleje ta garantoj qe dhe ti nuk je 100% i sakte me ato qe the me siper. Etnogjeneza e kombit shqiptar eshte formuar si bashkim i fiseve dhe kultures ilire, epirote dhe maqedonase po aq sa etnogjeneza helene eshte formuar nga kultura helene, epirote dhe maqedonase. Kemi shume te perbashketa me helenet por greket e sotem nuk jane pasardhes te heleneve. Greqia e sotme eshte mbetje e perandorise bizantine. Nuk mund te pretendosh si tenden cdo territor dhe cdo person qe flet helenisht. Helenishtja ka qene lingua franka e gjithe pellgut mesdhetar ne ate kohe. Eshte njesoj si nje italian te thote per Egjiptin qe eshte territor italian vetem se ne Egjipet ne kohen e perandorise romake flitej dhe shkruhej latinisht. Dhe mos harro qe helenishtja ka qene e vetmja gjuhe e shkruar e asaj kohe qe predaton dhe latinishten. Pretendimi i greqise se sotme qe eshte vazhdimesi e helenizmit i jep shkas dhe ja ben me t thjeshte historise greke, pervetesimin e cdo kulture dhe popullate ku gjendej gjuha e shkruajtur helene. Mos harro se helen dhe grek nuk eshte e njejta gje pavaresisht se grekeve ju leverdis qe ta perdorin kete nocion interchangeably. Te uroj gjithe te mirat dhe te sugjeroj ti maresh me pak me shume rezerva infot historike jo vetem nga historianet e tik tokut po dhe nga ata zyrtare. Edhe ate nuk jane me te mire. Te gjithe sot e marin informacionin si ju servitet, te mireqene. Por sot nje pjese e historise se ballkanit eshte e manipuluar qe ti shkoje pershtat gjeopolitikes te fuqive europiane.

@@T-bag96 I think you should learn more history, Albania country Greece country came after before was tribes When you are not sure, you should learn not put fake news