ASUS ROG XG Mobile Review - One Month Later! | Using ONLY The ROG Ally + XGM 6850 | Was It Worth It?

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In this video we will take a look at what it is like to live with the ASUS ROG XG Mobile full time. I used this machine alongside the ASUS ROG Ally to create videos for the past month. During this time I learned quite a lot about the XG Mobile ecosystem...
It is a buggy mess at least on the 6850m the 3080 seems to fair a bit better with the 4090 having the best reported compatibility. However if you were able to just use the XG Mobile and the ROG Ally as a complete all in one solution, then surely everyone would be getting rid of the desktops and laptops in replacement with this...no?
Find out if it is worth the money and the hassle to switch full time to the ROG XG Mobile 6850m
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00:00 Intro
00:29 Starting Off
02:33 Armoury Crate SE
03:30 Cannot Overclock On The Ally?
04:15 Armoury Crate SE + XG Mobile
05:30 One Update Away From Chaos....
06:43 Don't Install The Wrong Driver...
08:09 Let The Bugs Begin!
10:17 AMD Adrenaline Driver
11:12 Other Issues
12:00 My Ritual
13:00 Performance Benchmarks
15:45 CPU Limitations On The Ally
17:13 100W Bug Results
17:54 Is The Ally + XG Mobile a Suitable Laptop/Desktop Replacement?
19:34 This Is Not A Laptop
20:53 This Is No Editing Rig Either
22:01 Set Your UMA Frame Buffer To AUTO!
23:38 Solutions To Some Problems
24:20 Why Do I Feel Like A Beta Tester
25:39 Conclusion
26:58 ASUS FIX THESE ISSUES (among others....)
28:39 Should You Do It?
29:47 How Has Your Experience Been?

КОМЕНТАРІ: 145
@ADOS_DSGB
@ADOS_DSGB 7 місяців тому
I've had a 3080 connected to my Rog Ally for a week now and I've had no issues. Really easy setup, the most difficult part of the setup was getting my external HDMI connected monitor to work. If the disconnection box doesn't go away, just wait until the light turns white to pull it out. A couple of cons, the fan is loud and it gets very hot especially on demanding games. I have a small room, I swear it raises the temperature in the room. Overall I'm very happy with it, it does exactly what I want. Allows me to play at 1440p, 60fps, on High settings.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
Definitely feels the temps in the room getting raised as well lol. Between that and the ROG ally going full tilt. The 3080 does work a lot better than the 6850 in my experience. I'll be doing a compression of the two thisnweek
@JZF629
@JZF629 7 місяців тому
I gotta say…. You are a wonderful human being for putting yourself through that shit so other can benefit from this knowledge. I was also considering this setup as crazy as it sounded, but now I won’t go anywhere NEAR it. I refuse to go through that EVERY. DAY. Plus after using an ally I can’t stand how loose the analog sticks are, it drives me crazy!
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
Yeah it is definitely insane to do haha! Not something I'd recommend at all. Thanks for the kind words! I would definitely recommend a laptop setup over this!
@ivanromero13
@ivanromero13 8 місяців тому
I'll be waiting for this
@justingoodnight5067
@justingoodnight5067 4 місяці тому
This is my only means to get into pc gaming while also having the abilities to make it a potential home set up and for it to be on the go at any time is sick. Love the idea of this just WORKING
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK 8 місяців тому
Yes, I definitely understand where you're coming from on certain small issues with the Ally + XG mobile 6850M XT. However, it's still awesome! I use XG mobile daily. for sure switching between handheld to desktop at this moment is janky. So, I just leave the drivers to fix the issue in OneDrive/File Explorer.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I absolutely agree with that statement, it is awesome. But definitely janky haha!
@user-ke3ty7mr8r
@user-ke3ty7mr8r Місяць тому
this is unfortunate especially given the heafty price tag it has right now. 2k$ for janky...ugh...I want to get one so bad but it's gonna take alot of convincing
@ThePriestization
@ThePriestization 8 місяців тому
Nice vid again bro! I don't even have this handheld but the video is so informative! 👊🏽👍🏽
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the comment, appreciate the positive feedback!
@ThePriestization
@ThePriestization 8 місяців тому
Anytime fam!!
@DirtyShishKabob
@DirtyShishKabob 7 місяців тому
This video is much needed
@chrisunlmtd
@chrisunlmtd 7 місяців тому
I price matched on best buy and got the XG Mobile 3080 for $1,099. I am using the ROG Ally as my LAPTOP replacement not my Desktop replacement. For me, it is working flawlessly. I handheld game only on special occasions; like airplanes, road trips, long term appointments and it does the job for me. Other than that, my Ally is docked to the XG mobile and runs all my games i need @ 4k on my living room OLED. for instance, I get 45-60 FPS on Starfield 4k Medium settings and about 65-85 FPS on Horizon Zero Dawn 4k Ultra settings DLSS Quality. Definitely, hitting frames my PS5 couldn't hit and it works as a home entertainment device as well. So far, its a great addition to my household.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
Glad to hear you've been having a great experience with it! The 3080 has worked out much better in my case (I have both the 6850 and 3080) There are fixes through community programs however
@natebee8680
@natebee8680 7 місяців тому
Where did you find it for $1099? I’d like purchase one for that price
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
@@natebee8680 thats the regular American price now I believe. Should be able to price match best buy to asus.com I think
@adriancoanda9227
@adriancoanda9227 8 місяців тому
You are using an older dock second try clean the disconnected devices second plug the dock before you start the device, since it doe not support hotplug that's the issue and mistake that most user do
@X862go
@X862go 7 місяців тому
Older?
@X862go
@X862go 7 місяців тому
Explain further, please?
@volcalstone
@volcalstone 8 місяців тому
My XGM 6850M XT works just fine with my X16 2022. The funny thing is that I mainly got it for the Ally as a 3rd PC that will have great power when docked. It was working just fine for the first month that I had it until this recent update to the AC SE and other things in the MyAsus app. It would be acting during the connection and disconnection process yet it's perfectly fine on the X16. It would freeze up my Ally at times and give a black screen where I would have to hard reboot it. A restart does the trick though in regards to having it work properly. I'm thinking at this point that it's the Ally at fault here for not making it a smooth experience. Asus and AMD needs to get their act together quick. They need to just let us use the regular AMD drivers and AC. Why make things more complicated then it should be? If it wasn't for me wanting HDMI 2.1 I would've went with the 3080. At this point when the 4090 goes on sale I will be picking one up and selling my 6850M XT if it doesn't get fixed by then. For right now it's manageable but not perfect. I have faith that this will all work out soon though. The Ally has been great as a standalone product though. It's just kinda funny that things started to act up when I can't return it anymore. 😊 I got it for cheap so I can't complain too much but at the same time it's money.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I will say I do miss the HDMI 2.1 on the 3080. No adapter from any company seems to give vrr/gsync through the display port to HDMI. However other than that the 3080 does seem to work a lot better. I would love to get the 4090, if only to see if the problems exist with that as well.
@YelNatSttocS
@YelNatSttocS 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the review, will probably get a GPD G1 for my 2022 32gb GPD WM2. Will wait for the 32gb mod for Ally it there some genius that can try this.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I think the 32gb mod is in the works. I have a WM2 64gb coming. I'm going to have an oculink tutorial/setup guide etc for my 4090. Although mine has been delayed to the end of the month..
@YelNatSttocS
@YelNatSttocS 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech great dude! So amazed on your reviews and all of them are so helpful and with evidence. Of topic, my Ally is not able to red/write on my 1tb sandisk extreme, but it works on my 256 Kingston and 32gb sandisk. It is kind of weird. BTW, I only use SD CARD for emulation.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Can you use the 1tb card elsewhere? The SD Reader may have killed your card unfortunately... mine has killed 1 and does not work with other SD cards now.
@tclark5481
@tclark5481 6 місяців тому
Good video, lots of good info here. As for Ally into laptop, well, that really depends on what you want to do. For that college kid needing a device for note taking, etc. I would probably not recommend the Ally. On the plus side, most of us already have keyboards and mice so you wouldn't necessarily need to buy new for that. But, as a portable package, the laptop shines because it's all there and connected. If you intend to use the Ally as a daily driver, and not necessarily in a mobile situation, it's good but certainly not a high-end device for serious productivity work. But, for many of us, email, web surfing, document preparation are well within the capabilities of the Ally. Throw in an XG and now you're got a decent, but not high-end, gaming rig. The one advantage the Ally has is what I call gaming-on-the-go. You can certainly get a few rounds of Dave the Diver in while you're in transit. It would certainly make those long plane flights more entertaining, though you'll need that battery pack for anything over a couple hours. All in all, I would say the Ally is a fun gadget, if you have the spare cash. On the other hand, you can buy a nice GPU for the 700+ the Ally will cost you so at some point you will have to decide if you really need GOTG or if gaming at home is enough.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 6 місяців тому
Very true. I would never recommend this over a full out laptop. Especially like you said for a student. I know there are people that do it, but to carry around a keyboard, mouse and potentially bigger external monitor it is a little much. Plus like you said the cost of everything. If you were to buy an ally plus 6850 that would bring you to about 1500-1600 usd depending. For that price you can find a 4000 series laptop. 4050/4060, potentially a cheaper 4070. Obviously it is not a handheld, but the power you can get from a laptop is just unmatched. That is why I do like the idea of an EGPU for handhelds. Light gaming on the go then docked at home for AAA gaming. I have yet to set up my gpd win max 2 with an egpu but I am expecting some good results there. I think a device like the gpd mini or win max would be the best for a student, or more suited than the ROG Ally. I would say though, that if I was on a limited budget and gaming was my primary focus with just some light word processing for school. I could see the ally being a good option, not the most practical, but gamers never really care about practicality
@davidalchujian7759
@davidalchujian7759 8 місяців тому
thank you for this video, i felt like it was just me. on the asus forums, they just tell me to upgrade to the newest version of ACSE 😢
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Yeah that is definitely not the answer you want to hear...
@jvb4450
@jvb4450 8 місяців тому
Theoretically you can use the Ally on a 4k screen, but I think you have to sort of use the Ally where it’s strengths are. I use my Ally for gaming in bed and in my backyard when the weather is nice. Then I use it as a workstation in my living room (I work as sales manager so no heavy computing needed). I have the Asus XG16 portable 15.6 inch monitor, it stands on my table in the living room and it’s basically my second game station. My main rig is connected to my screens in the man cave and through hdmi on my 4k 120 hz tv in the living room. So gaming on 1440p and 4k is done with my 7800x3d and 4080 desktop. When my friends come over they have a desktop like gaming setup in the living room which they can use. I ordered an XG mobile 3080 so we can play Starfield together in the living room when it comes out 😂
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Nice that sounds like a sick setup!
@patsornleuangsupornpong9819
@patsornleuangsupornpong9819 8 місяців тому
Bro I’m considering to buy XG mobile just for using as a handheld mode not with external monitor, would you recommend? I saw many say that it’s not comfortable to use just for a handheld but I already have a great pc rig, thanks!
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I would not use it just with the Ally. I don't have specific numbers but you will lose performance playing on the ally screen as opposed to external. I would never play mine straight on the ally. It just wouldn't be comfortable for me to use being tethered to the gpu
@patsornleuangsupornpong9819
@patsornleuangsupornpong9819 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech thank you for your reply! This helps me reconsider buying one
@SamS-ef5ez
@SamS-ef5ez 8 місяців тому
@@patsornleuangsupornpong9819 so can we buy Xg 3080 and use external monitor connect to ally>
@puertadlm163
@puertadlm163 8 місяців тому
I have the 6850. I saw in the amd drivers wouldn't give me the updates option. I mistakingly DDU the Ally and installed the wrong drivers. Aka the AMD ones not the My ASUS ones. Once i installed the correct drivers. Firing up the Xg mobile is the only Janky part. Once it connects its pretty set and done. It usually works flawlessly like 50% of the time. Minor issues like 40% of the time and major issues like 10% of the time. But like i said once its fired up it just works. My godson spent his summer here at my house. There are 3 of us here, with him now 4. He daily drove the Ally and the XG Mobile. He had a few bugs here and there of the randomly disconnecting. But he said it would only happen every once a week. He said a relative none issue. He said he would say the only annoying part was the first connection for the night and that was it. In the morning he would unplug and play it around the house and at night when we all got home to game he had that one connection issue and says besides that one very prevalent bug. That was mostly it.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Yeah it's strange. Once you're in.. you're in, no issues etc. However getting to that point can prove to be a challenge, sometimes. Like you said with your godson having the first connection issues. Those always seemed to be the longest troubleshoots for me. I still cannot get these drivers to not install randomly over time. Glad to hear your experience sounds a little better than mine :)
@puertadlm163
@puertadlm163 8 місяців тому
@WinDeckTech ya terrified about the drivers thing showing up. But keeping my fingers crossed. I also did completely reset my Ally once. Mostly because I was using it for photo editing and it had a ton of work stuff ( photos/ videos) on it. So I did hard test it once like redo windows 11 and everything. Idk if that helped.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
@@puertadlm163 I'll have to keep posting updates in my 3080 vs 6850 vids as to how long it took me to get the 6850 working
@marcus11619
@marcus11619 Місяць тому
I know this video was made 7 months ago but I’ve had no problems from my xg 6850. It works how most would expect it to: plug it in, activate it, play games. Only thing is if you leave the xg mobile plugged in, turn the ally off then unplug and turn it back on it will give you problems. Make sure to deactivate it before shutdown!
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech Місяць тому
Yeah for the most part it is all good now. Few weird bugs here and there like you said but much much better
@faisalcsat3301
@faisalcsat3301 Місяць тому
Thanks Marcus, really glad to hear this. I will buy 6850 soon for my Ally
@patrickpat2161
@patrickpat2161 Місяць тому
I can maybe get a 6850 for my Ally for $600. Is that a good deal?
@faisalcsat3301
@faisalcsat3301 Місяць тому
@@patrickpat2161 Yes, just buy it as soon as possible. It's already a good price. In my country country is really difficult to find this device (8030 and 6850)
@ravatek1569
@ravatek1569 8 місяців тому
what is the reference of your prortection case/bumper ?
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkQFjqB Note: does not work with Xg mobile. I had to cut out some of the rubber to make the xg fit. Other than that, it is an amazing case imo
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 8 місяців тому
Edit: 4090 XGM in India costs 1.82k British Pounds and the 3080 XGM costs 1.15k British Pounds. Overall same cost as a big heavy unwieldy 4080 laptop(2.5k British Pounds). Waiting for your 3080 review. The Ally plus 3080 or 4090 XGM is the cheapest way to get a 16GB VRAM Laptop GPU. 4080 Laptops are the same cost and they are gigantic in size. 4090 Laptop pricing is NUTS. Planning to use the Ally to replace my 8300H Helios. The Ally's 7840U is literally 3 times faster than my Helios 300 and I also have 16GB RAM and I have no problem editing my videos on 16GB VRAM (I use Filmora). For serious work I always work on my desk with my laptop plugged into my monitor. I can also sell the Ally later and keep the XGM and later use it with any other Asus Flow laptop.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
That pricing is crazy! I'm so sorry!! Look for some performance benchmarking, head-to-head battles etc. So far the 3080 has impressed me for 1440p. I was able to play high settings, all rt on connected to my 13900h. I expect similar performance while connected to the Ally on this title.
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech Good to hear. Eagerly waiting for your review! 6850M XT may have some drive issues as even Jarrod's tech didn't have the best experience.
@zacthegamer6145
@zacthegamer6145 8 місяців тому
It cost over 2 lakhs in Australia! Good to be in India!!!
@dingleberries360
@dingleberries360 8 місяців тому
shoulda got the 3080. a lot better. iv had literally zero issues with mine and amazing performance
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I have the 3080 as well. Switching to that full time.
@2BuckGeo
@2BuckGeo 7 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech good good!
@djbuknard
@djbuknard 8 місяців тому
I have to say, most of the time i have zero issues with the XG Mobile 3080. Most of the issues you have with your 6850 i just havent seen on the 3080. Every now and then something strange happens but i just restsrt the Ally and everything works. (I would say i get 9 out of 10 uses without issue)
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
The 3080 so far has been mostly stable for me. At least on the ally. On the x16 there are some bugs to it.
@XXTheTruthXX5
@XXTheTruthXX5 7 місяців тому
What case do you have on the ally?
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
It is just a cheapo Alie express one. You can find them on Amazon for double the price. But if you type in ally case in Ali express you'll come across clear ones like mine but solid colids as well
@MrShivedragon
@MrShivedragon 7 місяців тому
wen are you updating info obout the xg mobile? last update is supous to fix several bugs using the xg mobile
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
I have a video uploading currently as we speak :)
@MrShivedragon
@MrShivedragon 7 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech im refreshing 😃
@CodeR3d911
@CodeR3d911 2 місяці тому
Got one used and could not get it to connect correctly. It says it would connect to it, but eberything was still running off the iGPU. I tried everything including DDU multiple times an it woudl never work. It wouldnt even output video to the TV/monitor. Dude said it worked for his laptop but honestly, its probably the crappy drivers. Im sending it back today because its not worth the effort. I have a 4070ti PC but this was nice to have in the living room. Looks like im just going to wait until they wither make a cable for 3rd party eGPUs, or just deal with how it is now.
@2BuckGeo
@2BuckGeo 7 місяців тому
My 3080 xg arrives later this week!
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
Awesome I hope you enjoy it!
@2BuckGeo
@2BuckGeo 6 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech my 3080 xg ROG just died after a AC update… the vbios got corrupted. Rip. What a pos 😂
@NoonMight
@NoonMight 7 місяців тому
I think, it takes away the point of a portable handheld. If you want a game console with an egpu, just get a gaming laptop. They make good/cheap ones that cost less the purchasing both the $760 Ally and the $1300 egpu. Just get a 4060 gaming notebook for $1000
@aaronpaananen8977
@aaronpaananen8977 3 місяці тому
You’re missing the point entirely. Safe of me to assume you have neither an rog ally nor a gaming laptop? 😂
@El-gordo_
@El-gordo_ Місяць тому
Any plans to make one final update review with the 6850?
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech Місяць тому
Unfortunately I don't have the 6850 anymore. I gave it to a fellow handheld UKpostsr Gamer's Generation I still have the 3080 however. The 6850 though before I gave it to them was in a much better state. Still not 100% or plug and play 100% of the time. I would say it is nearly there. Although there still is a 20w vs 30w (20w performing better)
@El-gordo_
@El-gordo_ Місяць тому
@@WinDeckTechhey I actually just bought a 6850 for a decent price , just wanted to make sure how will I know if I do or don’t have the 100w bug?
@faisalcsat3301
@faisalcsat3301 Місяць тому
​@@El-gordo_ Need your update please. Is the Bug still there? Still conflict with armory crate?
@El-gordo_
@El-gordo_ Місяць тому
@@faisalcsat3301 no works pretty good for me now just make sure you get the right updates make sure you Ally is up to date and armory crate and you should be good
@El-gordo_
@El-gordo_ Місяць тому
@@faisalcsat3301 also set a 20/20/20w manual preset because using turbo mode is what does the 100w bug 20w is the way to go and you still get the same performance as 30w
@goingfastdraggina7167
@goingfastdraggina7167 3 місяці тому
Has it become plug and play yet with recent updates? I though about buying one until now...
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 3 місяці тому
In my experience the 3080 has been more reliable and acting normal ish. The 6850 has come a long way though and for a lot of people has become plug and play. I have since gotten rid of the 6850 but have retained the 3080.
@flav999
@flav999 8 місяців тому
Will you sell your 6850? Cause I'm interested
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I'm going to be trading it with a buddy for a handheld :) sorry
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK 8 місяців тому
@flaviusbaciu1509 If you are interested. I have a(n) extra XG Mobile 6850M XT up for sale that is brand new (sealed dead stock box from BB). Let me know if you are interested.
@tilu8696
@tilu8696 8 місяців тому
@@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK Hello I 'm interested in
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK 8 місяців тому
@tilu8696 okay, do you have messenger or WhatsApp?
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK
@PISSEDOFFtvNETWORK 8 місяців тому
@tilu8696 disregard. Your time expired. ⏲️
@Meowinater3000
@Meowinater3000 8 місяців тому
Where you get that case!! Please I need that
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkQFjqB Note: does not work with Xg mobile. I had to cut out some of the rubber to make the xg fit. Other than that, it is an amazing case imo
@darkwolfx333
@darkwolfx333 8 місяців тому
I almost wanted to complain about your harshness on the xg mobile because to me it just works… then I realized how much I suffer from Stockholm syndrome from windows as a whole, being a windows sys admin not withstanding lol. Yeah this thing is all sorts of jank to all but the most versed sys admins.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
It is just that perfect combination of proprietary equipment/software + windows natural jank towards egpus/handhelds. To be clear though, these issues are mostly felt on the 6850 tmk. I do have the 3080 as well, I have mostly used it on the x16 so far but the few times I used it on the ally, as you said, it just works.
@Steelninja77
@Steelninja77 5 місяців тому
I do love my new ROG ally it is awesome. all these video's with people dissapointed well you don't appreciate a good device is all i can say. Elden ring 1080p High Starfield 1080p medium. what is not to love.
@luca7x689
@luca7x689 5 місяців тому
If this was plug‘n‘play it might have been cool. Is it better by now?
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 5 місяців тому
It is better now in some regards. But still not without issue
@tilu8696
@tilu8696 8 місяців тому
It's because of conflict between RX 6850 and 780 m so grab rtx 3080
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Which is strange
@ChadKenova
@ChadKenova 8 місяців тому
I wish there was a cheaper gpu like a 4060 or 7600 for the xg gpu setup. Or give you the option to buy an xg enclosure that has a psu built in and let you put your own gpu in it. I have a 4090 desktop there’s no way im spending that much on a 4090 laptop chip. But i do think its a cool piece of kit.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I would LOVE to have the 4090, purely for content comparisons etc. However, the 6850 is the cheapest and best option still. (when it works) I can say that the 40 series is damn impressive.. I have the x16 w/ a 4050 (6gb) and it can handle 1440p no problem in most titles. Cyberpunk I can get 70+ fps at high with DLSS 2, no frame gen. What I do miss with the 3080 is the frame gen though. If they were to make a 4060, or even 4070(laptop) XG I think that would do very well as it does offer a big enough performance jump for it to be worth it. Mind you if that came out it would likely be no less than $1,000.... I am hoping (foolishly) that the reason for the scarcity of all the XG's is because they are re-tooling for an XG Dock 3, like you said allowing to use your own gpu. That would likely be a 300-500 dollar part on it's own, but at least you could upgrade along with it. Assuming they carry it over to the Ally 2 etc.
@Madblaster6
@Madblaster6 8 місяців тому
If you need the 4090 I can ship it to you because they’re available in the States. Just cover cost and shipping.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Thanks buddy I appreciate that! I'll keep that in mind if the time ever comes that I "need" one haha. Definitely a want right now more than a need!
@vatal5410
@vatal5410 8 місяців тому
Nice try dude. Haha
@Madblaster6
@Madblaster6 8 місяців тому
@@vatal5410 ??
@dreadlord9257
@dreadlord9257 8 місяців тому
I love the idea of the xg mobile (a portable egpu dock), but as you said it is just way too janky. 1. They need to fix the driver issues. 2. Then add usb4/tb4 support (even if it is a little bandwidth starved). 3. Add either an oculink cable and/or adapter for the next/prior models. As it stands it is way too niche and too expensive to justify the cost. A decomposable/portable setup would be awesome, but frankly, you are better off just buying a gaming laptop as it stands.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Pretty much, if you want all of that power. Laptops are the better option. However I can still see the small community of needing just a handheld for their gaming needs and then only wanting more power on a TV setup. (think super small apartments, like those crazy ones in Tokyo) I just wish the pricing wasn't out to lunch. I would be fine with them foregoing the oculink port and just creating a proper XG-Mobile eGPU dock.
@dreadlord9257
@dreadlord9257 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech Oh I agree. I'm not knocking the use-case. There is a reason the Switch has sold so well. This is basically what we all dream about out of a "switch pro" (and added bonus it can double as a pc). I guess my point was that it is just way too janky at the moment. So for the time being, gaming laptop remains the way to go, which is unfortunate.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
@@dreadlord9257 yeah it is unfortunate... what is honestly more unfortunate is that it works 99% of the time for me on the flow laptop, so it can be somewhat jank free. I hope in a short amount of time it's fixed.
@lilacghoste8366
@lilacghoste8366 5 місяців тому
​@@WinDeckTechlaptop is harder to clean and more difficult thanks to the design And laptop sucks more dust
@sanchezmtz44
@sanchezmtz44 8 місяців тому
Bruh forget ray tracing. Ive been using reshade on my rog ally and games look amazing.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Some of them can look quite convincing
@sanchezmtz44
@sanchezmtz44 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech my fav ones is colorfullness and levels. On cyberpunk 2077 it looks like native ray tracing without the hit on performance.
@cppctek
@cppctek 8 місяців тому
Oof. Yeah man you definitely cleared up a lot of what people need to know about the xg and unfortunately the truth sometimes hurts. the xg is seriously over rated. It comes at hefty price with too many caveats to make it even close to being worth it. Also 16gb is most definitely not enough imo. I struggle with it often and it’s very limiting as you shared esp if you’d like to do more than just gaming. I even hit limits when I want to game and do obs or Spotify or anything. Hitting the page file as well can lower performance and made game stutters and those random drops in fps feel way worse. I’m glad you made this video. People need to see the truth about these and see it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. Even the ally itself is starting to present its limitations and issues more often so it’s a bit hard to be as excited about anymore. I hope the ally doesn’t become that little toy we toss in the closet and forget about as soon as a new shiny object comes along but it’s starting to seem as if it could happen for me lol. 😂
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
I still love the idea of the XG, do not ever pay full price for them and you will be happy. They just need to get their heads out of their asses and make an eGPU dock... They clearly can't stock enough of these things for the apparent demand, so move over and let the community handle it with their own, better parts...
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 8 місяців тому
The Ally is a technological marvel enabled by AMD. At 35W it's faster than a desktop 5700X running full blast.
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 8 місяців тому
Yes being a handheld produces other challenges.
@robertsmith20022
@robertsmith20022 8 місяців тому
I bought the 4090 and have only had the tv screen issue voing back once. If i didnt have the money i wouldnt buy it but, its preety sweet if you have it. My only issue of that i wish the rog had 32gb of ram inatead of 16
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Yeah that 16gb of ram is going to rear it's ugly head especially at 4k with that 4090.
@X862go
@X862go 8 місяців тому
to expensive and i love the ally but ill just use cloud save and them go to my desktop!
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Absolutely! If you have the multiple options that is what I would recommend. If you can get one used for a good price I'd say if you are looking for a good tv console experience (when it works) it can be great.
@amankumar-ft2ck
@amankumar-ft2ck 7 місяців тому
Sir can you please tell me how's your xg mobile rx6850 xt still holding. I have read somewhere that it dies within a year (hardware failure) . I want to purchase it for my ally but I am doubtfull now.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 7 місяців тому
It is still going strong, for better or for worse!
@rafaelrodriguez3400
@rafaelrodriguez3400 8 місяців тому
So long story short hold on buying the xg mobile or get a 3080? Yes? Anyone?
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
IMO if you can get the 3080 for a good price. Go for it. The price did drop in the states recently (not sure where you are from) they are still near impossible to get anywhere else I think. EBay is a write off...3080 seems to be a lot more stable than the 6850, at least when it comes to drivers. It does not appear to be as buggy, as often. I fresh installed windows on my Ally after this challenge to start fresh with the 3080. Expect direct perf comparisons in the coming days/weeks of me getting into the challenge.
@rafaelrodriguez3400
@rafaelrodriguez3400 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech I’m in texas I can get the 3080 for around 1000 usd. Thanks for taking the time to reply, other UKpostsrs won’t even bother.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
@@rafaelrodriguez3400 no problem at all. I always try to reply to everyone, good or bad haha. If they took the time to watch the video then I think I owe it to them to give a comment back. Edit: If you can get it for that price (check your local used market as well on Facebook and whatnot) it may be more worth it I would suggest you keep an eye on the channel as I will be doing game benchmark comparisons between the 6850 and 3080 while I still have it. Both on the ally and the x16(higher PCIe lanes)
@djbuknard
@djbuknard 8 місяців тому
The 3080 is mostly a great experience. Every now and then I have to restart the Ally to get a successful connection. I use the 3080 xgm with an Asus portable monitor and also with hotel TVs via HDMI.
@bigseek00
@bigseek00 8 місяців тому
I have the 6850.. yeah hooking up it sucks i noticed you csnt have alot connections
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Yeah, a lot of high powered connections do not play nice. My Blue mic has to be plugged into a certain one for it to work
@nineflyerr3866
@nineflyerr3866 8 місяців тому
No thank you. Ridiculous that you have to deal with all of this when you're over $1300 invested. This is why apple and mac have so much sucess. It just works
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Right... As much as Apple is a shitty company with very bad practices... their ecosystem generally just works.
@ezg8448
@ezg8448 8 місяців тому
I came to the conclusion the ROG Ally shouldn't be used desktop replacement for different reasons. This is a handheld gaming device good for a few hours of play and not much else. That of course isn't a bad thing at all, but it limits it's uses.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
It can be used as a desktop, I'm certain scenarios. However to become a complete desktop replacement... it just isn't there. If you had an egpu dock option (to use your own GPU) I would be more friendly to the idea because at least you are not buying manufactured e-waste.
@MrMilkyCoco
@MrMilkyCoco 8 місяців тому
Its a great laptop replacement for me at least.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
It can be with the right accessories no doubt about it. Just needs to be what that individual requires. Sounds like you are happy with it though :)
@YoSanReview
@YoSanReview 8 місяців тому
you should monitor your voice output -- you're cracking quite a bit. - I had to stop watching.
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 8 місяців тому
Sorry about that! I'll admit I'm using the x16 now with a new amp. So I think there has been some weirdness. I believe I have everything dialed in perfect for my next video. Thank you for the feedback (pun intended) I appreciate it! Helps me grow as a "creator"
@YoSanReview
@YoSanReview 8 місяців тому
@@WinDeckTech ill be back for the next one! Thanks for your hard work!
@skankhunt85
@skankhunt85 5 місяців тому
too long
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 5 місяців тому
Skim through
@churchofsatan2041
@churchofsatan2041 8 місяців тому
Companies need to switch to Linux that way they won't be bottled down by windows crappy software. The community would support it more.
@justingoodnight5067
@justingoodnight5067 4 місяці тому
Bro just bought a rog 2tb and need to get this gpu. Ill need your help 😂 whats your email 😂
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 4 місяці тому
Oh god, I'm sorry for you already haha
@justingoodnight5067
@justingoodnight5067 4 місяці тому
@@WinDeckTech lmfao don't say it like that 🤣☠️
@justingoodnight5067
@justingoodnight5067 4 місяці тому
@@WinDeckTech I'm setting it up rn
@WinDeckTech
@WinDeckTech 4 місяці тому
Email me @ windecktech@gmail.com or hit me up in the handhelds United discord either or, if you need help at all. Feel free to DM me through there or @ me discord.com/invite/cjSyeUEE
@justingoodnight5067
@justingoodnight5067 3 місяці тому
@@WinDeckTech thanks bro!!!
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