Atheism vs. Christianity | Christopher Hitchens debates Dinesh D'Souza

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In this engaging and thought-provoking debate, two intellectual heavyweights, Christopher Hitchens and Dinesh D'Souza, go head-to-head on the topic of Christianity. Hitchens, a renowned atheist and author of "God Is Not Great," brings his incisive wit and sharp arguments to challenge the foundations of religious belief. On the other side, Dinesh D'Souza, a prominent conservative commentator and author, defends Christianity and offers a compelling case for faith.
Join us for this riveting discussion as these two brilliant minds explore the complexities of faith, reason, and the role of Christianity in our world. Whether you're a believer or a skeptic, this debate is sure to challenge your perspective and stimulate meaningful dialogue.
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0:00 - Introduction
0:30 - Opening Statements
21:50 - Rebuttals
33:17 - Cross-Examination
49:20 - Q&A
1:19:30 - Closing Remarks

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@eurobonapartiste
@eurobonapartiste 4 місяці тому
Christopher Hitchens is missed in our time, when fundamentalists of all religions and denominations threaten the very foundations of liberal democracy. He was such an extraordinary intellectual.
@georgepoe1283
@georgepoe1283 27 днів тому
Sad that he is dead, But of course if you stand this path until You reach the end of your life. You will be reunited. If you could hear him now he would tell you he was wrong.
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 24 дні тому
And he knew that GK Chesterton was the greatest threat to his own worldview. Even on his deathbed, he still struggled with him
@Antiorganizer
@Antiorganizer 3 місяці тому
Dinesh is dishonest, twists, distorts, and counts on the gullible ignorant people that are easily impressed by Dinesh pretending that some problems can not be overcome and makes ridiculous comparison to try to make people laugh at what should instead has been a quest for facts. Dinesh relies on incredibalism. Very dishonest character.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Dinesh dishonest? You have no idea what you're talking about. Still, Christianity (not Catholics or Muslims) has brought more good into the world than atheism!
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 24 дні тому
Interesting claims. What do you think to be “dishonest”?
@Antiorganizer
@Antiorganizer 24 дні тому
@@rusmeister7144 Look up the definition of straw man argument. Dinesh instead of acknowledging that a claim he made was debunked, he changes the subject to become about something else and then attacks that.
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 24 дні тому
@@Antiorganizer OK. Where exactly does he do that? Can you give an example?
@Antiorganizer
@Antiorganizer 23 дні тому
@@rusmeister7144Look at the rebuttals section of this very video. One would have to be pretty damn stupid to not see how dishonest Dinesh is. He states lies, makes false claims, needs to be constantly corrected, and yet will not acknowledge when he was wrong, which is pretty much all the time (being wrong that is). I mean, come, on, already! Seriously! You really can't see how utterly obviously dishonest Dinesh is? Hello, mcfly ! Anybody in there, knock knock !
@active285
@active285 3 місяці тому
36:00 David Hume's "Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion" was published in 1779. Still we have to head those creationist claims - i.e. having been disproved almost 300 yrs ago - over, and over, and over, and over again from D'Souza. What an utter ignorance.
@albacan
@albacan 7 місяців тому
Dinesh never fails to fail
@charlesstockford6003
@charlesstockford6003 7 місяців тому
Yes he's such a happy nonjudgmental Christian.
@The-Butcher-Jaegerkorpset
@The-Butcher-Jaegerkorpset 6 місяців тому
Is the D'Souza gentleman considered an "intellectual" in the United States? I sure hope not. If so, the Conservative intellectuals have migrated far from the days of William F. Buckley, Jr.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Dinesh trounced Hitchens, you are not smart enough to realize it. Obviously you didn't understand what either of them were saying. Hitchens kept conflating religion with Islam, Christianity with Islam, Catholicism with Christianity and just using whatever one he wanted when it suited him. VERY dishonest.
@woodytheduke
@woodytheduke 23 дні тому
You sheep are just so gullible,,,,religion is philosophy for the less gifted
@Raptormonkey
@Raptormonkey 21 день тому
Dinesh is brilliant. He brought out the big guns in the opening statement- the ones that REALLY show how ignorant an atheist has to be, and still no rebuttal 😂
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
If a debater raises his Voice in counterargument like Dinesh, it almost a sure thing that is he walking on shakey grounds and compensates the weakness of his position by shouting.
@leekmuynuts139
@leekmuynuts139 Місяць тому
William lane craig is the worst for this 😂
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
He didn't raise his voice once. He spoke loud and clear the whole time.
@tonymcfadyen8302
@tonymcfadyen8302 3 місяці тому
This Danesh guy is ridiculous. These aren't serious arguments, are they?...
@ol_dirty_dirty
@ol_dirty_dirty 3 місяці тому
Religion is ridiculous....Dinesh and others like him are experts in capitalizing on it
@tonymcfadyen8302
@tonymcfadyen8302 3 місяці тому
@@ol_dirty_dirty yep, spot on. It's extremely sinister.
@reisekeller6859
@reisekeller6859 15 днів тому
Charity does not originate with religion. But rather, the idea of community and honor.
@GuyRegular
@GuyRegular 4 місяці тому
The level of atheism throughout the rest of the developed world refutes any argument that religion is somehow a moral necessity, Countries like Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on Earth. According to the United Nations’ Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by measures of life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate and infant mortality. Conversely, the 50 nations now ranked lowest in terms of human development are unwaveringly religious. Other analyses paint the same picture: The United States is unique among wealthy democracies in its level of religious literalism and opposition to evolutionary theory; it is also uniquely beleaguered by high rates of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy, STD infection and infant mortality. The same comparison holds true within the United States itself: Southern and Midwestern states, characterized by the highest levels of religious superstition and hostility to evolutionary theory, are especially plagued by the above indicators of societal dysfunction, while the comparatively secular states of the Northeast conform to European norms. Of course, correlational data of this sort do not resolve questions of causality--belief in God may lead to societal dysfunction; societal dysfunction may foster a belief in God; each factor may enable the other; or both may spring from some deeper source of mischief. Leaving aside the issue of cause and effect, these facts prove that atheism is perfectly compatible with the basic aspirations of a civil society; they also prove, conclusively, that religious faith does nothing to ensure a society’s health.
@gman4074
@gman4074 2 місяці тому
You defeated you own augment all those countries are westernized countries for the most part which was influenced by Christainity also the nordic countries are operating on ideology of the tribe they hve small populations and see them self as Vikings and thus why the work together, this does not apply in non homogeneous countries with large populations. Also very high rates of suicide, alcoholism, depression and these countries are not reproducing so will die out if they dnt turn it around quick in some cases too late. They also engage in weird practices like beastily. Sweden was the rape capital in europe and look at the rapes in western europe. The safest country in europe is Poland which is a Christain country and Hungary and that euro stat data, jokes on you.😂
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
Fanaticism is a dangerous attitude of an individual or society because it uses passion, an extreme form of emotion, assumes an attitude of inflexibility or rigidity, and a surrender of rational coldheaded thinking and is very evident in deeply religious people more than to atheists or to people of not the re!igious bent.
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
Cont....and further, because this emotional attachment or involvement to their faith would tend to diminish and at worst, corrupt their ability to think rationally and logically so giving to charity is an emotional, religious and laudable act in the true spirit of Love thy neighbor as yourself teaching of Jesus. This act is also logical because it promotes goodwill that keeps people working together cordially and brings peace which is a desirable political with great economic advantages.
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
Should be...political move or strategy.....
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
Uh, Guy, are you trying to draw people away from God as a religious activist, just declaring to the world your new stand on religion or just trying to convince yourself you are doing the "right" thing?
@williamlilleston1595
@williamlilleston1595 Місяць тому
In reading the comments section, (after I watched the whole video), I can only come up with one conclusion. Everyone has their likes and dislikes, as well as their beliefs and disbeliefs. It seems to me that many thought this was a battle to change "the other side's mind". In reality, (as I see it), it was just a debate between two very educated individuals, on a very difficult subject, that was designed to inform and provoke thought. Nothing more.
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
Could you be any more passive?
@williamlilleston1595
@williamlilleston1595 Місяць тому
@@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Hahahaha. Actually I have been pretty aggressive at times during my life. However, I have learned in over 66 years that if something does not effect me, change my life or I don't have any control over I just aint going to worry about it. Fair enuff ?
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Yeah, I noticed there weren't any Hitchslaps in this one, you guys seem to like.
@orojas1113
@orojas1113 21 день тому
@@williamlilleston1595 desousa may be educacted, but his dishonesty goes way too far to be placed in the same category as hitchens.
@williamlilleston1595
@williamlilleston1595 20 днів тому
@@orojas1113 Opinions vary. You are entitled to yours as I am to mine. I'm good with that.
@boy2blueazul
@boy2blueazul Місяць тому
D'Souza seems more concerned about attacking Hitchens and atheists then expounding his viewpoints about why god and religion are real and necessary.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Thats because Hitchens is evil and made various blasphemous statements about God and Jesus. I would have attacked him also, but alas, he's in hell now, so I can't.
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 21 день тому
@@jbooks888 Your comment is really showing Christian love isn't it?
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 19 годин тому
Depressingly common. This tactic goes a long way to explaining why most people have a very warped idea of what an atheist is.
@laurasalazar8436
@laurasalazar8436 4 місяці тому
….i heard once from someone who I admire💭💭💭” …he had a Disclosure Agreement with God”
@robrogers2532
@robrogers2532 24 дні тому
Dinesh is so WRONG I don’t know where to begin! . . . . He called Sam Harris a Biologist???? He’s a Neuroscientist⁉️
@wumpyinc1
@wumpyinc1 23 години тому
It begins and ends with the acceptance of an idea which is clearly a reflection of the human ego. Religion isn't real in any literal or physical sense, but it may just actually be yet another evolutionary manifestation that just helps human beings to survive.
@kropotkinbeard1
@kropotkinbeard1 7 місяців тому
I hate DD's attempts to tell atheists what they believe, getting it wrong at almost every turn. The Stalin, Hitler, Mao....did their deeds as a matter of atheism is one of the dumbest non-arguments that apologists have ever come up with.
@jo5356
@jo5356 6 місяців тому
Although the atheists do the same
@death2abrahamism
@death2abrahamism 5 місяців тому
What gets me is they assume any that aren't believers of the big three are automatically atheist. Almost seems like Christianity is the biggest atheist religion out there when they worship the death of their god... (even though they are non-Jews worshiping a Jew, but that's another argument to be had)
@alexerr_wolf
@alexerr_wolf 4 місяці тому
Yeah, I'm confused about that too. The point is not that atheist regimes don't commit horrible things, but that nobody's commiting these things in the name of atheism. Nobody's sending people to camps, in the name of absence of god. They do it in the name of a person, that replaces the position of god on earth, i.e. the tyrant.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@alexerr_wolf Yes, they are doing it in the name of atheism! If they are atheists, they are doing it in the name of atheism! WAKE UP! Or maybe you would prefer "doing it because they are atheists" ?
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 24 дні тому
@@alexerr_wolf The explanation is quite simple. While you are technically right that the atheist regimes did not do their evils in the name of atheism as such, it was the inevitable outcome of the meaning of atheist philosophy applied to human nature. The elimination of responsibility after death for evils committed in life removes restraint from doing evil which would otherwise be present. If there is no hereafter, if YOLO is true, then (to the person who doesn’t think it through, and most don’t, certainly not the tyrants), then why shouldn’t a person with power, will and desire exercise it to maximize his power and pleasure in the here and now? Atheist philosophy offers no reason to restrain oneself, although some might try to offer reasons on the basis of their personal opinions or desires, the tyrant can literally say, “To hell, or rather, the GULAG with you”. And so in the absence of a solid basis for moral law outside of the individual and his perceptions, no one could tell an atheist ruler that there is a power over him and that he will face punishment and cannot escape it, even in death. He will just laugh at it just as you all are laughing here. Abolish God, and the state becomes the god, and the head of state can and will do what he will, even over your objections, and that is what happened in the USSR, China, Cambodia and so on. The atheist regimes made the worst depravations of Christian rulers look like baby games.
@rolssky1
@rolssky1 19 днів тому
Saying that morality was due to Christianity is false since Buddhist who do not believe in God are good people as will as the Hindus which are more in number.
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
I have heard apologists literally say that Christianity was the start of civilisation and that no civilisation existed before Christianity arrived. When asked about China, the apologist started to say "China wasn't civili- er.." and then after being prompted again by the interviewer, changed it hastily to "Christianity made China better than it was!" and wouldn't be drawn on the original claim. Admittedly the apologist in question wasn't someone who could pull a crowd like these two debaters could, but it does make one wonder how widespread this sort of opinion is.
@JDG1301
@JDG1301 6 місяців тому
There is no way of distinguishing god/gods from Nature, except that we can actually observe Nature. Meaning Naturalism is the best explanation we have.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
The Bible has a lot of explanations about spiritual matters. Science can't go there. Nor can it speak of origins of life and the cosmos. It just doesn't have the means to observe it!
@JDG1301
@JDG1301 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 So does the Hindu religion. But you'll discard that one with no explanation why christianity is better as an explanation.
@cindyfrankly256
@cindyfrankly256 2 місяці тому
Two great men of our time . Christopher RIP .
@woodytheduke
@woodytheduke 2 місяці тому
Two? Who is the other one? Dinesh is the idiot that made the 2000 mules show and an avid trump supporter
@andrewhart6200
@andrewhart6200 7 днів тому
Neither parents or schools should be "instructing" on religious views in a free and open society....it should be up to the individual when their brain is fully developed.....they should abstain from controlled substances and any other thing that can leave the individual detrimentally affected if something goes according to anything other than "the plan/curriculum..."
@Quancept
@Quancept Місяць тому
Dear Christians, is this the best guy you got? Dineshs' arguments sound like 10 year olds school debate.
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 24 дні тому
I would say the same of Hitchens’. But Chesterton was the real man Hitchens raged against, could never fully understand and could never defeat, though he railed against him. I think the essential problem of the atheists is that they want to pretend that intelligent Christian arguments don’t exist. CS Lewis began with the moral law; there has never been a good refutation of that. The upshot is that it is useless to try to speak truth to people that have determined in advance not to hear it. Luckily for us, the men who built Western civilization, the very thing the atheist takes for granted, pretty much all believed in the Christian God, with very few exceptions, and those late in the game (the 18th century and beyond). It would make a man look foolish to pretend that Thomas Aquinas or Dr Samuel Johnson, Newton, and others were fools. It would be like pretending that Einstein was an idiot because his worldview didn’t agree with yours. Conversely, I don’t think Hitchens was an idiot. But he himself could not get past his own high-school ideas, and holding them dogmatically, made it impossible for him to critically challenge his own ideas.
@Twist52
@Twist52 22 дні тому
I think be best Christian “debater” I’ve seen is Cliffe Knechtle. He can actually navigate a conversation and give intelligent responses instead of going in circles following a script like people like WLC.
@philamras3732
@philamras3732 17 днів тому
​@@Twist52 I personally have read a lot from WLC. He wiped the floor with Hitchens in their debate. And other philosophers like Plantinga, Swinburne, Pruss are brilliant. Also scientists like Francis Collins and Luke Barnes. Cliffe is ok bur expand your horizons and learn philosophy.
@Twist52
@Twist52 17 днів тому
@@philamras3732 WLC spent half that debate saying there was no evidence for atheism after Hitchens had already established why atheism requires zero evidence
@philamras3732
@philamras3732 17 днів тому
@@Twist52 Hitchens did not successfully adress many of Craig's arguments. Alex O' Conner made a video on this called the sophistry of hitchens. Also every worldview requires defending. If you believe there is no God or it is unlikely one exists, you must provide justification. Again, Graham Oppy mentioned this on the Alex O' Conner's podcast.
@gerardgauthier4876
@gerardgauthier4876 18 днів тому
I always wondered what Christopher would have thought of Trump and his followers. I know his bother, Peter, doesn't think much of Trump.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
sapiens have been around for at least 3 million years( rounded cranium associated with homo species), This was not know at the time of this debate took place, We also now know that homo sapiens are the result of interbreeding bye no less than 6-8 hominid species over hundreds of thousands years.
@renaissanceacademyofmartia904
@renaissanceacademyofmartia904 2 місяці тому
Dinesh misses the morality argument. It’s because clearly the Bible says we were made in the image of God with the laws written on our hearts
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
Ah! You’ve managed to completely miss it as well!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Yep, it's called our conscience. Buthat's talking about laws, not the grace of Jesus' sacrifice. But how are we going to know the free gift of salvation that Jesus offers to us if there is no gospel being preached around the world, or as Jesus said, Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Our consciences aren't going to tell us that!
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
@@jbooks888 Mine tells me to do quite the opposite and leave people alone rather than trying to tell others how to live their lives. By the way, how is it a free gift of salvation if we're required to do something to claim it?
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 17 годин тому
@@tehspamgozehere If I offer you a free can of coke, you still have to take it from me and drink it! You should think before you post because that was the dumbest post I've read all week!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 17 годин тому
@@tehspamgozehere Suit yourself. Live your life however you see fit.
@shaunrodney7839
@shaunrodney7839 11 днів тому
Dinesh is about the best they have. And hes dishonest and pathetic.
@mr.wrongthink.1325
@mr.wrongthink.1325 29 днів тому
Dinesh is right on politics, wrong on religion. Hitchens is right on religion, wrong on politics.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
And you are wrong on everything (that you've said here) !!
@mr.wrongthink.1325
@mr.wrongthink.1325 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 All religions are equally wrong about existence of supernatural. Without evidence, gods are just a fantasy.
@DexterDexter123
@DexterDexter123 7 днів тому
i don’t believe Dinesh believes most of the stuff he says.
@rolssky1
@rolssky1 19 днів тому
To belief that God created the universe is false. Here is why. A designer would use raw materials but does not create the raw materials. A designer create for the purposes of resolving problems. Like for instance a professional mechanical engineer would not only be accepted for a due to his narrative of his qualification of previous assume achievement since those could be fake but must prove himself of resolving actual problems on the job. If in reality he is not good he would be fired In the same way giiven that there is an assumed designer of the universe, let us verify if he truly is by resolving huge complex multitude of problems that humanity is facing. Ever since until today we could not see problems being intervened. That is the reason why the majority of philosophers, scientists and other intellectuals dismissed this concept of a designer. The Wright brothers invented aeroplanes and contributed progress to the world. Thomas Edison invented electricity and the world benefited. Religion must therefore give proof. Show proof that your calmed designer is making anything which resolves problems of the world. Show data that people could verify that your designer is powerful, resolving terrible problems of people. Show data of your claims that that one you adore is merciful that he save people from dreadful situation like a child being raped and killed, families buried by buildings due to earth quakes. Do not fool people with your claims that just because you don't understand, it must be God. That is irrational and you are making forceful insistence of your unsupported claims.
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177
@thephilosophicalagnostic2177 8 днів тому
Does Dinesh think that the "laws" of nature are the law...except when we need to insert magic here and there?
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
In short.. Yes. Many apologists and fundamentalists believe that the so-called 'laws of nature' were set in place by a higher power like our laws about which side of the road to drive on and similar. They have trouble with the idea that the laws of nature are descriptive, not prescriptive. They describe what is there. They do not dictate what should be there.
@ruthgroom3544
@ruthgroom3544 20 днів тому
Australian aboriginal culture had neither slavery nor servitude and are the oldest living culture on earth. It was not an inherent human trait cleansed by christianity.
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
Australian aborigines didn't have a single coherant culture, but rather had a tremendous diversity of tribal type.. er.. culture-ettes, I suppose. They were never a unified people. The recent movement to try and rename all landmarks based on "the aboriginal language" has helped to illustrate that. There were thousands of languages, not just one. And tribes had different names for the same feature. Overlapping territory and similar make it a hot mess. Especially when three groups all insist on their name for such and such a river be used, despite that river running through land claimed by twenty different groups. Still, I'm pretty sure there was never any slavery adoption in general so your point stands for the most part.
@Blayaz
@Blayaz Місяць тому
Some people are just stupid, commenting as if they can ever face a crowd of people let alone address them, stupidity at work 😂😂😂😂
@LICATAC
@LICATAC 21 день тому
"I'm like a mosquito in a nudist camp, I don't know where to start!" Dinesh, you said something very funny, here, dedicate yourself to these things and leave the serious things alone
@stevelampley2591
@stevelampley2591 2 місяці тому
The religious still, after all these years, still don't u derstand that ATHEISM ISNT A THING.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Trolling?
@Twist52
@Twist52 22 дні тому
@@jbooks888I think he just means Atheism is a lack of belief. There’s zero burden of proof or any rules to atheism like there is for theology.
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
@@Twist52 Absense of belief rather than 'lack', but that's being extra pedantic for the sake of trying to be extra clear to people who think 'lack' means 'some but not enough'. Otherwise, yeah. The only reason we don't have a-unicornists or a-toothfairyists is that no one is trying to make it mandatory to believe in unicorns or tooth fairies.
@robmueller3551
@robmueller3551 20 днів тому
Christian love is the strongest hate out there
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
The sort of "love" you get when you're absolutely convinced you're correct about everything. Incredible arrogance. "I'll pray for you." And of course "You'll burn in hell!" despite their holey fables explicitly saying to not take pleasure in the downfall, misfortune or suffering of others.
@Whoisreal666
@Whoisreal666 15 днів тому
He's really calling Hitler an atheist? 😂
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
Apologists keep trying to do that, and keep being corrected. It's unclear whether Hitler himself was an atheist or a Catholic, but he was certainly supported by the Catholics and often said the Nazi party was doing "Gods work" and similar. The only pro-atheist point I've heard was a claim that he once expressed contempt for the church in conversation one time.
@Whoisreal666
@Whoisreal666 13 годин тому
@@tehspamgozehere lol I mean didn't he express Christian values? I need to do a Hitler study and brush up.
@OlafChang9359
@OlafChang9359 14 днів тому
Simple.....2 religiions. Take your pick
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
Atheism isn't a religion. And there are FAR more than two to worry about. Not so simple, I'm afraid. But it could be made simple. Just stop trying to force people to believe in anything by law and only teach what can be shown with at least some evidence.
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
It appears in this debate our good and valiant proreligious Mr, D'Souza
@conradbulos6164
@conradbulos6164 Місяць тому
Cont....has overwhelming lost in this debate against the formidable Goliath, Christopher, acting as the brave and courageous David with his slingshot and stones of weak arguments just bouncing off of our venerable and enduring Christopher Hitchens and was actually painful to watch. We should, at least give our worthy Dinesh a big A for trying and bandages to cover his wounds.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@conradbulos6164 Painful to watch for you because the devil(s) in your head scream at the very thought of God. They hate him more than Hitchens does and so you are traumatised every time you hear something in favour of Jesus or God.
@Wilantonjakov
@Wilantonjakov 22 дні тому
@@conradbulos6164 I don't think I've ever read anything so cringeworthy.
@mashah1085
@mashah1085 28 днів тому
Only one of the two gentlemen in that debate..is a convicted felon. And it's not the atheist.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Yes, convicted for donating too much money to someone, actually he was speaking too much smack about the wrong people, that's why they bothered to do it. But he was pardoned, so there's that. Only one of the two gentlemen in that debate has admitting to practising anal sex, yeah, there's that.
@mashah1085
@mashah1085 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 1. So laws don't apply if you like the person? 2. Who pardoned him? A future convicted felon?
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@mashah1085 Here's the thing about Letitia James' prosecution. TRUMP BROKE NO LAWS and did not defraud anyone! They want to stop him being re-elected by putting him in jail! That was her mission statement. Yeah Trump pardoned him because it was an extremely harsh penalty for what he did. A fine would have been enough.
@Wilantonjakov
@Wilantonjakov 22 дні тому
@@mashah1085 do you believe there is such thing as an unjust law? Oh wait, you're an atheist, so your concept of justice and morality is built upon a house of cards.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
Dinesh D'Souza LIAR FOR INSANITY.
@Mike-qt7jp
@Mike-qt7jp 7 місяців тому
If you were talking about some other youtuber's opinion, then you could say, "Well, I think..." But we are talking about the ETERNAL, ALL-POWERFUL, CREATOR of the universe. Who says, "Can the gods of the other nations (religions) tell you the future? No! They are mere lifeless idols." But I..." and then He proceeds to give us over one thousand prophecies in the Bible to demonstrate that God's word can be trusted. He also adds over one hundred scientific facts in scripture in all fields of science that were written down, thousands of years BEFORE the great scientists of the world would discover them. For example, up to a few hundred years ago surgeons used to wash their hands in basins of water, until they discovered it became a bowl of germs. They started using running water. The Bible instructed the use of running water thousands of years earlier. Soldiers used to die from disease, until they finally figured out to do their toilet business outside the camp. The Bible thousands of years before this, instructed the Israeli soldiers to take a small shovel outside the camp and bury their waste. Doctors used to drain blood (blood-letting) from sick patients, but thousands of years ago the Bible said, the life is in the blood. It wasn't until a couple hundred years ago, that oceanographers discovered mountains rising off the ocean floor, but the Bible thousands of years ago spoke of these mountains. The Bible says, "It is God who spreads out the stars." Astrophysicists now say the very fabric of space is spreading out taking the galaxies along for the ride. Up until a about five hundred years ago, astronomers thought there was about 4,000-5,000 stars. But the Bible in Genesis compares the number of stars to the grains of sand along the seashore. Astronomers now say there are at least twice as many stars as sand on all the beaches of the world. Albert Einstein in his paper on relativity stated that matter, energy, space and time itself all had a beginning. But thousands of years earlier in Genesis chapter one the Bible says, "In the beginning (a reference to time having a beginning) God created the earth (matter) the heavens (space) and said let there be light (energy). I don't want to make this so long people won't read it, but you can go any Christian bookstore and find books on the hundreds and hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, in the Bible. There were 256 totally fulfilled prophecies concerning the birth, life, ministry, and death of Christ alone. So, God in HIS word has told of science thousands of years in advance of it being discovered by the great scientific minds of the world, He has spoken prophetic utterances that have come true, over and over again, in a literal, not metaphorical sense, again, to demonstrate His authority. And what is your authority? Why should we believe you? You say things like, "Why didn't God do this or that. And, I FEEL like He should have done it this way, or that way." Look, if I decided someone should die and then carried that out, I would be a murderer fit for jail or execution. BUT, if God decides a person has come to the end of his days, He is God, we are His creation. This is His world, His universe. He is sovereign. Look, it's a great deal; surrender to HIs only means of forgiving our sins and reconciling ourselves to HIM, Christ dying on the cross, and reap eternal life, eternal peace, eternal health, and eternal joy. OR reject His offer of pardon and receive your just punishment. I choose Jesus Christ.
@treacherousjslither6920
@treacherousjslither6920 7 місяців тому
Your god sounds like a tyrant imo
@yana99992002
@yana99992002 6 місяців тому
Amen 🙏
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
Ridiculous. Patently ridiculous. “Blood is life”? No shit!
@leekmuynuts139
@leekmuynuts139 Місяць тому
Tldr. Incoherant rambles
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@treacherousjslither6920 dictionary. TYRANT: cruel, oppressive ruler. Yes you could say God is a tyrant... to the wicked. But to his own children, not at all.
@hopaideia
@hopaideia 7 місяців тому
It is also worth clarifying that the slavery spoken of in the Bible is not like the concept we have of a slave today. It had more to do with remaining, if subject to another person, for the payment of debts that had not been able to be paid, paying with work until the debt was paid or the arrival of the sabbatical year.
@annhylde2581
@annhylde2581 7 місяців тому
Copium
@mboatman40220
@mboatman40220 6 місяців тому
You're describing the "slavery" within Israel. But god told them to take slaves of other peoples and it was nothing like "payment of debt."
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
Read Ishmael
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
Heard it. Rejected it. But if you REALLY wanna push the "They're only servants not slaves" card.. Remind me, how hard do the holey fables say you can beat your "servant" again? If they get up within two days it's okay, right? Snarkiness aside, yes they practiced indentured servitude. But they also practiced slavery. Straight up plain own-that-person slavery, in addition to the special rules for certain groups of people. Or sexes. When offering clarification, please give full clarification instead of trying the tried and failed apologetic tactic of saying "Oh but it wasn't the kind of slavery you're thinking of.."
@joemckibben7757
@joemckibben7757 2 місяці тому
If only the 2000 Mules guy was as smart as he thinks.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
If only you had something better than ad hominems.
@leodeymusic
@leodeymusic 15 днів тому
Christopher Hitchens is unmatched as usual 😊
@gman4074
@gman4074 23 дні тому
A lot of simpletons in the common section, the just use Ad hominem rather than addressing the argument, atheist never have answers just criticize. They always run when you ask them where their morals come from
@Twist52
@Twist52 22 дні тому
Morals come from what helps us survive and advance
@gman4074
@gman4074 22 дні тому
@@Twist52 And that is why atheism is bankrupt. So survival of the fittest because that never end in genocide right. What if someone answer someone's answer is to put a population 6 feet under, then what, slippery slope to hell.
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 21 день тому
@@gman4074 Wow there buddy, now hold your horses, you're putting tons of words in OP's mouth. You should study some philosophy before saying ignorant stuff like "survival of the fittest leads to genocide".
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
Atheism doesn't say anything about morals. It's one viewpoint on one issue. "There are no gods." You can argue that that implies a lack of morals if you insist that morals come from a god, but you need to prove the existance of that god first and then prove that that is a source of morality. A naturalist/materialist/whatever on the other hand will answer. Morals are standards set by a group of people. Yes, they're relative. And heavily influenced by evolution and the rewards of being in a social group that doesn't prey on itself. It's quite a complex issue if you exclude an external source, and one worthy of study. So please do not generalise. "atheist never have answers just criticize" is amusingly an ad hominem, as it is an attempt to discredit a group. Same with "A lot of simpletons in the comment section". Best not to play the ad hominem card. It backfires pretty easily.
@Bee89301
@Bee89301 6 місяців тому
Problem is not Christianity, problem is people like Hitchens ...
@banjohardhit3991
@banjohardhit3991 6 місяців тому
What a pile of rubbish 😂
@JaySlansky
@JaySlansky 6 місяців тому
Logical,rational,intelligent people are, you're correct, a big problem to people who believe in fairy tales.
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
@@JaySlanskythat’s awesome!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@JaySlansky LOL Not really, I can stand up to any intellectual, pseudo or otherwise. I was a computer programmer for 30 odd years so I am good at thinking logically. I am also a musician, bass and keyboards since I was 16. I'm 65 now and at age 24 I was born again. I didn't know what I was doing or anything about Jesus, I just let some pastor pray for me and "asked Jesus into my heart" and then I went home. Within a few days I was on cloud nine. I was overjoyed and was Bible bashing all my family and friends. Thankfully, that wore off. 40 years later I'm still over the moon about Jesus, and my motto is: if it ain't broke don't fix it. So this fairy tale works for me! I have an inner peace that, without Jesus, you could never understand.
@LuchoSantz
@LuchoSantz 24 дні тому
​@@jbooks888And yet that inner peace does not keep you from attacking every comment against your faith in this video, relax a little will you
@terry1971
@terry1971 4 місяці тому
Dinesh is a wonderful Christian, brilliant man and a crusader for that which is good
@Kevins773
@Kevins773 2 місяці тому
❤ love the sarcasm!
@RobertoRockyMan-fp2cj
@RobertoRockyMan-fp2cj 5 місяців тому
Dinesh D'Souza very smart/prepared/wise/intelligent man.
@Kevins773
@Kevins773 2 місяці тому
Really? What video did you see this in? Link?
@RobertoRockyMan-fp2cj
@RobertoRockyMan-fp2cj 2 місяці тому
@@Kevins773 What do you mean?
@ATOK_
@ATOK_ День тому
​@@Kevins773I have never seen him make any strong arguments. But then again he is a christian so that is almost expected
@SB-yq8uo
@SB-yq8uo Місяць тому
The smug and arrogant Hitchens is almost as good an advocate for Christianity as Dinesh D'Souza. Hitchens is a stereotype of a professor who is used to shut down critics by lowering their grades.
@leekmuynuts139
@leekmuynuts139 Місяць тому
Baseless and cringe take. Really do try better next time buddy. Goodluck!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
The colleges are like that now. Just try to day something against evolution... you will not last long.
@clarkelaidlaw1678
@clarkelaidlaw1678 26 днів тому
the very accurate Mr Hitchens.thank you Christopher..you did much more good than any bronze age mythological nonsense .
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 21 день тому
@@jbooks888 Now you're plain wrong. Evolution is a fact, and the theory of evolution is even more solid than the theory of general relativity, used to explain gravity.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 21 день тому
@@AXKfUN9m The theory of relativity has been called into question recently. Evolution is enshrined in the hallowed halls of peer review. You cannot say anything against evolution if you want your paper published! Go to answers in genesis and watch a few of their videos and you might be surprised how well they UTTERLY destroy evolution.
@benjaminpendleton7797
@benjaminpendleton7797 6 місяців тому
Hitchens was an angry man.
@JaySlansky
@JaySlansky 6 місяців тому
I don't agree but will say that any and all atheists have a perfect right to be angry at the damage believers in a god or gods have done in the world
@benjaminpendleton7797
@benjaminpendleton7797 6 місяців тому
@@JaySlansky Yeah, and some of us aren't particularly thrilled about the countless millions of innocent victims that atheistic Communist ideology has oppressed.
@gman4074
@gman4074 3 місяці тому
Exactly, very bitter man
@Kevins773
@Kevins773 2 місяці тому
So? Is that a bad thing?
@gman4074
@gman4074 2 місяці тому
@@Kevins773 You atheist never hold atheist to any standards, hypocrites that why the world doesnt take yall seriously or even trust yall, even atheist dnt trust atheist
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 4 місяці тому
Hitchens describes a God and theology that the intelligent Christians that I know don’t believe in. Conversely, atheism really does establishes a principle that a person cannot and will not be held responsible for their deeds after their death, and that effectively only human agency can do so, and that was the real basis for the genocides of the 20th century by atheist regimes . Points to Dinesh, despite Hitchens eloquence.
@GayorgVonTrapp
@GayorgVonTrapp 2 місяці тому
Which one do YOU and your intelligent friends believe in, out of the thousands, if not millions, of different Christian versions?
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 2 місяці тому
@@GayorgVonTrapp The one defined by the Nicean-Constantinopolitan Creed of the 4th Century, generally accepted by the majority of intelligent men across the 2,000-year history of Christendom.
@GayorgVonTrapp
@GayorgVonTrapp 2 місяці тому
@@rusmeister7144 Is that not the one that stood by, indifferent to the plight of humans for tens of thousands of years, until eventually deciding to ‘intervene’ in the most bizarre fashion?
@rusmeister7144
@rusmeister7144 2 місяці тому
@@GayorgVonTrapp Welcome to the beginnings of apologetics! Your question presupposes certain ideas that Christians who held on to the core of their Tradition never believed. If you wanted to understand, you would begin to discover the problem of free human will, that is also free to reject the solutions offered by the Creator, just as the owner of a car or other complex machine is free to reject the instructions and do whatever he wants with it. Of course, some don’t want to understand, only jeer. Either you are honestly curious, or you are not.
@GayorgVonTrapp
@GayorgVonTrapp 2 місяці тому
@@rusmeister7144 The “problem of free human will’ is a problem for you only. It’s recognised for what it is: a smokescreen for your nonsense ‘god’ claim. Unless….. You can give the name of a SINGLE person EVER in the history of humanity that was given the choice to be here? Free will bury your head in the sand pill.
@firstname7330
@firstname7330 6 місяців тому
Will have a good laugh with Hitchens when I look him up in Heaven one day. Hitchens will be forgiven for his denial. God is great.
@grm3243
@grm3243 4 місяці тому
Why does he need forgiving? He is would already be in heaven - because what you believe and do really doesn't matter when it comes to heaven.
@woodytheduke
@woodytheduke 2 місяці тому
Proof that stupid can't be fixed,,,well said godboy!
@clarkelaidlaw1678
@clarkelaidlaw1678 Місяць тому
The catholic Pope has admitted what was obvious to rational folk.THERE IS NO INVISIBLE LAKE OF FIRE.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Oh no, don't work that way. If you reject God He will reject you, if you die in your sinful state.
@woodytheduke
@woodytheduke 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 Tell us what happens to the millions of children that die from disease or hunger before they reach the age of two godboy?
@albacan
@albacan 7 місяців тому
2023 can Dinesh justify America's proxy war in Ukraine?
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Does he have to? WHO ARE YOU?
@jameslazo9178
@jameslazo9178 21 день тому
hitchen's "NON-GOD DELUSION FAILS to proves that GOD does not exist - all what he does is to complain... he is DEAD... he died denying GOD... WHERE COULD HE BE SPENDING ETERNITY???
@gman4074
@gman4074 3 місяці тому
I heard Christopher hitchens passed away from from vocal cord cancer after a lifetime of slanders The Creator, and the says The Creator doesnt have a sense of humor, because that is no coincidence.
@Kevins773
@Kevins773 2 місяці тому
Yeah, death is hilarious, isn't it? How christian of you 🤡
@andjunglepunkthirteen760
@andjunglepunkthirteen760 Місяць тому
Lifelong drinker and smoker-how could it be a coincidence?
@Quancept
@Quancept Місяць тому
Wah! What an incredibly stupid statement. The guy was an alcoholic and a chain smoker. He admits this was wrong and even tried stopping it. It's incredibly stupid of you to try to correlate his cancer to some divine nonsense. It just shows you have no real arguments against his points.
@inoli5124
@inoli5124 Місяць тому
You sound just like the Pharisees who told the blind man that he must have done something evil in order to have been blind. Some sin that him or his parents have committed. And Jesus said that was not the case. You Christians have a very weird bipolar situation going on in your dogma. Also, correlation does not equal causation. I can't believe that people who believe this kind of stuff get to make rules for our country.
@gman4074
@gman4074 Місяць тому
@@Quancept And you find it a coincidence that is was vocal cord cancer, correct me if I'm wrong.
@ShikataGaNai100
@ShikataGaNai100 Місяць тому
This is like a brilliant mind and a pretender. D'Souza still looking for them 2,000 mules.
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
Did you watch the movie - I did, and he indeed found them! I guess when you have nothing you go for the Ad Hominem.
@pfflyer3381
@pfflyer3381 Місяць тому
7:15 WERE! WE were all brainwashed from brith! Holidays to keep reminding us all year long!! UNTILL THEY, WE as humans GREW UP! And left childish notions behind!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
How do you explain the many thousands of true conversions people make in adulthood? Like myself at age 24. My life was transformed completely. I now have a peace I never knew before and I am still going strong at 65 yo, my faith and relationship with God growing every day. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN IT? Are we all dilusional? I mean, can a delusion or psychosis or whatever last 40+ years?
@pfflyer3381
@pfflyer3381 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 that's on you ! Perhaps if you understood reality your life would have been better, Your relationship with what? His master plan, or you don't subscribe to A religion, just A god? If it's christianity, tell me about your awakening? What did it! Why A him? Your mother gave birth to you!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@pfflyer3381 NO! It's on YOU! How do you explain it?
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
@@pfflyer3381 Oh never mind - I just read all of your reply... how old are you? 13?
@pfflyer3381
@pfflyer3381 26 днів тому
@@jbooks888 68 and I read Real history! The sun older then the earth! Geniuses wrong! An almighty would need Anne? You do know her? We humans created vaccines to keep you alive! It has made it so, That we tripled the world's population in less then 100 years! We found helium on the sun before earth FACT! Not a very good response for someone so saved, enlighten? Anton petrov, watch his show! 👋
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
Here is what christianity has given the world, In 1788 when white genocidal christians landed in Australia, They where horrified that woman in Aboriginal society had equal standing with men, they where included in all civil matters including law, These white christians then started killing whole Aboriginal communities, Men woman children new born`s because my people refused to deny the rights of woman who had had those rights for over 65,000 years. USA 150,000 native American CHILDREN slaughtered bye christians because they would not convert. vatican island 1 well , over 30,000 skeletal remains of mainly young females = the Italian government has never held them to account, So are complicent and accessories to crimes against humanity. ireland , Over 900 very young to new born babies starved and thrown in a sewer because they when not blue eyed and blonde haired( sound familiar), If the where blue eyed and blonde haired the where sold to the USA federal immigration department for 5,000 to 15,000 odd dollars, Who then on sold for a profit to white christian childless couples.. The Polynesian people are the best natural navigators on the planet and because of christianity those skills where almost completely lost. This is christianity, every country they have infested, Genocide and cultural destruction followed. religion specifically christian religions are racist towards me and every native indigenous population on the planet, religion has tried to wipe from the planet. I do not see any good from christianity infecting civilisation and replacing culture with ignorance and superstition.
@pfflyer3381
@pfflyer3381 Місяць тому
He couldn't tell you how the sun shines, or Why HE HAS NIPPLES!? YET, hes know about the universe? Geppetto!
@jbooks888
@jbooks888 26 днів тому
The nipples is easy to answer. They're for aesthetics and pleasure.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
Philosophy is not science, Philosophy is like religion it is an assertion rom a perceived place of authority. Philosophy has no peer review so has no relationship with science . This is why Dinesh uses philosophy quotes instead of scientific quotes.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
I am not atheist , Atheism to me is cowardice, I am to christians Anti Theist To jews i am Apikoros, To muslims i am KAFIR, I have never heard of rebuttal to my label's given to me bye religion. I have 65,000 + years of ancestry minus any god from the middle east ever.
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
I think you might mean 'agnostic' in the first line. An agnostic says he doesn't know. An atheist says he knows. An antitheist says he knows and also goes on to say that theism should be abolished. And I for one have always liked the tales and fables from the dreamtime. Mostly because no one is trying to teach them as fact, just like Aesop.
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 15 днів тому
Einstein in his autobiography started he lost god at 14 years of age, read it, Dinesh bye lying about Einstein has no respect from me.He never had any from me in the first place because he is openly racist against me.
@tehspamgozehere
@tehspamgozehere 18 годин тому
I actually stopped listening to Dinesh because I was fed up with hearing the same old lies being told again. Einstein actually made a publication in which he loudly and plainly refutes the claims that he was a Christian. In it he says that the only kind of god he believed in was effectively deist in nature and explicitly states that it is not and could not be the personal god that Yahweh is said to be. Between that and the "Hitler was an atheist!" lie, I'm thoroughly fed up with apologetics. It wouldn't be so bad if they updated their arguments.. Or admitted when they were wrong. This cycle of lying, being corrected then lying some more doesn't do the believer side of the debate any favours at all and only serves to make them all look bad.
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