It's always family aka relatives.

Going thru this now:((

@@pjpj3416 or siblings

Im not even sure they pretend. They say it, but when it comes to the crunch, they make you feel like the most worthless, no-existent piece of shit you never felt you were in your life.

Mostly family

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I'm sorry for your loss. Blessings

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If its what I’m thinking of that comes from an amazing show “what we do in the shadows”. Great show with some keen insights into human behaviors if you’re looking for them. If you haven’t watched it I would suggest it highly. It might even help you connect with the idea more too that your son presented you with.

Sorry to hear that. Our sons are so precious 🙏

thnx. so easy for those of us programmed from b4 birth to be hoovered and forget then get whacked over and over again.

Been living it for 35 years...could write volumes about HOW they work.

Yes Sir. I just left a person like this after 5 years of dealing with him. I packed up and moved out. I felt that I had to remove myself from him.

THERE EVIL AND PERSON BELIEVE WHAT'S THERE SAYING ABOUT YOU AND HER PARENT HELPS HER THAT CHILD DON'T NEED TO AROUND HER YOUR RIGHT HER LIES SHE'S TRYING TO DESTROY OUR LIFE MY SON AND SHE'S DOING IT BECAUSE HER PARENTS KNOWS THE DA POLICE SO THAT'S WHY MY SON WHEN TO JAIL AND IT'S GOT BAD HER PARENTS ENCOURAGE HER IT'S SAD BUT THERE ALOT THE POLICE HAS DONE HES NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLEUNTILL UNTIL NOW SHE'S EVIL SHE NEEDS TO BE IN THE NUT HOUSE I'VE BE GOING THROUGH HELL WITH HER NOW TRYING TO CLEAR HIS NAME AND MINE AND GET HIM OUT OF JAIL 2DIFFERNT STATES I'M FIXING TO GET EVERYONE INVOLVED WHEN TO PICK UP POLICE REPORT COULDN'T BE FOUND LL

My whole life

Hard to do when it’s an 95 year old mother, who’s still competing, trying to trick you in every possible way as if she was 20…

Because of age and health which she plays when convenient, difficult to drop her…

​​@@samarina4truth111I helped care for my late grandmother. It got me separated from my 17 year marriage... No appreciation or sorrow from my mother who's now in her late 70s. In fact she twists it and says i did nothing. Not all the cooking, hoovering, carpet cleaning, dishwashing, wheelchair, lifting, walking with. I basically did everything but personal care. I realise personal care was the hardest. I loved my grandma alot. She passed away 3 year's ago aged 96 due to the hospital giving her unessicary opoids, and an earlier hospital visit she was given dementia via being given too much potassium which rendered her in a weakened state the last 4 year's of her life. My grandmother hadn't been easy before dementia. She, my mother considered by brother " the clever one". He didn't live up to his potential. It wasn't his fault. There were many misfortunes. I was a scapegoat for everything and every decision I made was bad. They insulted my wife ( she wasn't perfect but still), my kid's etc. It must be tough for you and you're very brave. You're very decent and I hope you get rewarded for your sacrifice. Make sure you get some respite or it could kill you.

I'm not religious but, amen

What if its your child???

@Anna like a nest of vipers the fact is they are all vipers.

I have box of notebooks that I written all the shitty things happened for last 7-9 years. It was feel like I'm trying to get to the sea surface to breathe my father is pushing my head into the water back and when I get so powerful and about to get out of water my mother pulling me into the deep from my foot harder. The last time I was spent there I was imagining them melting by the flames. That was the only thing made me calm a little bit. And when I wash my hands I was seeing washing blood out of my hands some times.

I agree, but sometimes there could also be certain information that was exposed, and while it may not appear as it seems to those closest to you, unfortunately it could still be extremely damaging legally in certain circumstances because it shows motive.

The name for it is reactive abuse. And many think that it's a pre-planned activity. Hard to imagine. I'm just not playing chess in the "how I'm going to screw you over" game, so I can't imagine a chess game hostile step by step diminishing of somebody. (I'd already be gone if I was that mad!)

That happened to me too. Then the narc call you borderline They are evil.

​@@Scott-nr2jithank you. I didn t know it was called, reactive abuse. I am going to read about it.

I saw this guy and said to myself he’s bad news when I first saw him. I have no idea why. Then I ended up marrying him. I was so right.

They abuse you and you get angry and defend yourself/confront them,then they deny everything and make you the aggressive bad/nutty one!

True; but I do think some are just very, very damaged individuals. However they are often resistant to do anything about it. Some people can't be helped.

Lol me too

Same.....

Dr Phil.

Oh definitely. We ARE in an abusive relationship with the government.

So true

Amen

Long , long ago a website was created that gave friends and family members of Cluster B disordered people a list of 100 common traits and behavior they share. It's called out of the fog. About 6-7 years ago, when I first started doing a complete reading of the research and literature on Cluster B disorders, I bumped into a neuroscientist who told me not to both with distinguishing one cluster b disorder from another because they are all various forms of sociopathy. What distinguishes one from the other is what makes the behave like a sociopath. That was a total game changer for me, and free me up to really begin to see these people for what they are. It can be hard to imagine that there are people who walk among us who genuinely ENJOY harming others, but they actually do enjoy it. What's even harder are when these people are your parents, siblings, and grandparents. You just can't imagine that they would want to hurt you, but some of them savor it. We see it all the time on the evening news, some parents beating, torturing, starving, raping, and stealing from their own children. Sick, sick people.

Fullstop!!!!

​@le th Thank you, I just looked up Out of the fog.

Baiters- wow Doctor Phil met sibling Kendra& Cousin Windbag

Yep, that’s it! That’s all you need to know!

I am so sorry 😞

I am too. I hope it has improved since then …. if not it may well be worth changing jobs. No job is worth your peace of mind.

I had let my guard down too many times and thought that I attracted these types people. I have learned to live a different way and avoid such as much as possible. It is a great feeling. You do not attract these people most are just looking for victims. Be One and walk with Christ!

genetics more powerful than many think. grt grandfather on 1 side, grt grandmother on other, each produced a few thru 4 generations, both my parents and my son, some uncles, cousins. "We few, we happy few" must escape, grab the rest of. our short life left.

Same here. Now they have all become exs

Yeah, yeah, yeah of course you know everything the best! I happen to know otherwise.

​@joe fox I love this.... very true

I have nobody ..I didn't realise my kids were Narcs , their father was one , I was so ill after he died , then they came after me having joined up with a group of others that I'd warned them about ! It felt like a nightmare , like I'd discovered a nest of vampires , how did I never see this .. .

I also have lived narcissist for a very long time. I also thought I was the only one as well. How could I have fallen for this person?

@@mainowlin6176 I BELIEVE WE WERE MANIPULATED BY THE VERY BEST. MASTER MANIPULATORS IF YOU WILL. THEY MIRRORED US. ALSO I TOTALLY BELIEVE THEY NEEDED TO BE EVERYTHING WE ARE AND THEY CAN'T BE. THEY'RE EVIL DOERS AND VERY COMFORTABLE DOING HORRIBLE THINGS. I AM CONVINCED I WAS TRICKED OVER AND OVER. NOT BECAUSE I WASN'T SMART ENOUGH BUT BECAUSE I CAN'T THINK LIKE HIM. HE IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD IN THIS TWISTED MIND OF HIS . I JUST COULDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW HE COULDN'T CHANGE HIS WAY OF HURTING ME AND EVERYONE YES EVERYONE. BUT THEY CAN'T CHANGE. THIS IS WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE ARE CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING. PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND WE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE SUFFERED FROM THESE MONSTERS. WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT. 🙋‍♀️

Yes, when we come on YT it is an eye opener that there is a world full of good people who have similar stories of staring into the eyes of evil.

@@raccuia1 AGREED

You elephant's toe is on your shift key.

Same here, they blind side you from nowhere, you do not see it coming, and even their children are fair game. they really are doing the devil's work.

@@rio-wi1el I truly believe these type of people are demon possessed. Anyone that come across with them cannot live a peaceful life.

And they will blame you for the rain 😂

Me Too

Oh me too my sister hates me and only because I'm not allowed to be smarter than her. Aren't sisters supposed to love you and feel your happiness or sadness. Instead she just hates me. Just knows she can pull my strings but BUT NOT ANYMORE.

Somehow I relate to what you said. I too have attracted toxic people. I have been revealed things about me that I still don’t understand. I know I am a hyper sensitive person(empath?). Since a child, I have answered peoples’s questions with out them saying anything or looking at them. I don’t know I’m doing it unless they tell me. A few people said they noticed something special about me (an Aura?). A few thought they saw a glow like an Angel, the look on their face confirmed it. I always replied “I’m no Angel”. Ironically I ended up with the last name as a “stage” name ….. Angel. Another great irony: my ex-husband and I were agnostic. My Son was an infertility Dr’s work. We finally decided we would call him Nathan. Later I looked up the meaning of that name, it is “gift of God”.

I have around toxic people. It affected my body. I will never complety heal. But now I know that I have to trust my gut feeling.

I would be very careful sharing that you are an empath, energy healer, etc.-some people will used this against you and call you an unaware narcissist.

So weird. You look like me.

@@loriraemorris4142 they say that we all have a twin somewhere!

It seems like so many with me also. Do I send off some weird vibes or something?

It was 20 years for me.

@@LethoHali I’m not sure how you could’ve made it that long. I was going crazy at 10 years. Your one strong person !!

@@tracieflesher5181 32 years, I guess I am stronger than I think.

32 years. And he’s right.. I denied my internal feelings about the character of this person. The Best description.. imposters.. that’s the hardest one to see. Imposters.. words don’t match the behaviors.. and they know it.. even when they are busy hiding them. Denial of ourselves .. keeps them in business

Ditto. Ditto. Ditto. To everyone here who have commented.

Very well said! Some people would call it being paranoid, but I call it being smart. Shows that you aren't so easy to manipulate.

It’s scary to think that there are more people who make us uneasy than there are people with whom we are comfortable both currently and historically. As though there is pattern. I know that I happiest when I’m alone.

​@kathrynhayden9298 we should get together and see if we make each other uneasy. Lol I've been thinking I'm one of the good ones. But who knows.

Repairman has to lose a job because of your trauma? Do you realize he's not part of your life, you're not supposed to like him, you simply buy his expertise? What's next, you try to eliminate people in the park because they have bad vibes? That's the exact problem with these videos, they make some people irrational and see the devil everywhere.

@@name5876 Up until Christ becomes life light, in darkness one can only imagine.

​@name5876 That's not fair- if people make you uncomfortable they make you uncomfortable and you shouldn't have to have people in your house that make you feel that way- especially if you're alone with them. There is a such thing as intuition and if someone creeps you out there could be a good reason for it. In fact I had a tenant who creeped me out and I would never let him in my house to pay rent. Then he moved and it turned out he was a crackhead with so many roaches in his house we had to have an exterminator come 4 times.

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I know

Im actually starting an online school for Young Women to understand love bombing

Yet they pretend like it just happened that way (as if you had something to do with it, God forbid you don't play along with their evil game they snuck upon you anymore out of nowhere) even though they were the instigator.

I’m married to the same exact person!!!! How did you get away from him??? HELP

I was your stepdaughter; my narc and unstable mother tried to kill me when I was 5 or 6. And, of course, as a result of my extreme childhood trauma and abuse, I made very poor choices as a young adult, particularly in relationships. But that was then. Now, I am healing. We are so fortunate today to have resources about healing trauma that prior generations did not have. She is in good hands with you as her stepmom. I feel for you during this difficult time, but know your stepdaughter will (hopefully) grow into a self-aware woman with incredible inner strength and resilience. I know I did. Where there is love and support, there is hope. 🌱

Remain strong...see if your dear stepdaughter shows an interest in yoga. It helped me go forward

@@laurafeher9694 oh we definitely do yoga 😊❤

I understand. Same here.

Sorry. Hope it gets better fir you. My significant relationships emotional liver my son etc have all been walking out of my life simultaneously lately out of my life leaving me emotionally devastated and very confused.

Excuse all my typos lately. For, emotional lover etc..

I know, :(

True !

Same here.

I met the smartest sneakiest of my life and they had me in their web for a year. Until I finally had to stop trying for someone didn't even really want me, just what I could help with. Cold as ice

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Are u implying something with that combination of words?

Master baiters. I jus dumpd this toxic evil nightmare never heard the word nacicist. I'm free now goin on my new journey. Ty I have a strong Higher Power I'm blessed. And eager to learn. Im a loyal Dr Phil. Fan he. has changed my life for better every time he speaks 👍👍up Dr Phil hugs. Thank you

How DARE you use that horrible language?!?! (Just kidding, it''s a great double entendre, either way. Yet it's a great metaphor for what a waste of time those pot stirring types are)

@@alhall6219 The internet has been invaded by horrible people. Nancy Pelosi and Donald Trump will unite to save us from these types!

You are not alone Heather. Manipulators target both the vulnerable & strong people. If it were another person in your place with a car, your “friend” would have still manipulated them. She is a very unhappy person. You will be okay in time 💙💙💙

@@annem2922 awwww...thanks so much for your comment Anne. Words so true...she often remarked to me about all the things her other best friends do for her...to pressure and guilt me. My daughter believes it's probably all made up to manipulate me...so sad to not know what a friend should be...thanks for your encouragement towards me.I do feel so much better not being used...a good way to finish up the year.❤🤗❤😎

@@heatherdawnpoetry4047 Your daughter is right Heather. Guilt tripping, comparing us with others is manipulation. My Father was an extremely generous man, and of course he met with users but he didn’t let that discourage him. He told me that those who steal from us, steal from themselves. Much like whatever we sow in others is what we reap. People may think oooh I duped her, but in the real sense they duped themselves. It’s an interesting spiritual law. Yes 2022 😃, we will be prudent and discern who is genuine and who doesn’t deserve our energy.

@@annem2922 yes...words so true. People don't get away with using others in the end. I'm getting older and wiser.It's better to have maybe just one friend that really cares...much better.❤😎❤😎

She didn't act jealous she WAS jealous. Congratulations on your new freedom. Now you have room for a REAL friend.

I believe that s the only thing you can do: run, so fast as you can. I thought I can defend myself towards them. But somehow they break, and all you resistente is gone.

Amazing 😻 good one ❤️

I've gone no contact with my entire family network. I had to

Keep that door bolted tight. Total no contact.

Same for my Farher and sister. Went full no comtact 9 years ago, best move ever.

I only wish I had the privilege of learning that NARCISSIST and SOCIOPATHS exists among us. You could be living with one get out while you can. I'm glad I did unfortunately I have tons of SCARS but I HAVE ME AGAIN and that's PRICELESS!

She thinks she’s punishing you with the silent treatment, I’ve been there.

Yes it is! They get to pull off some classic DARVO (deny and reverse victim order) with it, and play "VICTIM" afterwards too!! (Those types are completely disgusting!)

she was a master bater?

They are very much personality disorders. What else would you call it? 😮

You're absolutely right 💯