Becoming the Witch King. The Tragedy of a Man Who Lost His Soul to Sauron.

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Numenorean

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This story unfolds in the early years of the man fated to become the Witch King. His life takes a pivotal turn upon receiving one of the great rings of power, forever altering his destiny. Yet, before this transformative moment, much of his past remains veiled in obscurity. In this rendition, we have expanded upon his story, weaving a speculative and grim prologue to his enigmatic existence. Witness the gradual metamorphoses he undergoes, from just a mortal man to the chilling Ringwraith, he will eventually become.

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@tonymickens8803
@tonymickens8803 Місяць тому
Tolken Reader since 1969, THIS IS GREAT!
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you Tony!
@joshuaagron9693
@joshuaagron9693 Місяць тому
Is the narrator reading straight from the book? Bc this is awesome
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
There is no book for this I am afraid :) I Have made up this speculative story. Very little information is available about his life prior to becoming a Ringwraith. @@joshuaagron9693
@BixRibene
@BixRibene Місяць тому
Loving that AI Overlord!
@jansandman6983
@jansandman6983 Місяць тому
wow,
@benedictwallis5820
@benedictwallis5820 22 дні тому
Love this channel! Adds so much grit and character to some of the lesser know characters and stories in middle earth. Deserve way more subscribers 👍
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 21 день тому
Thank you! Next video should bring more goodies 😏
@Lotusisrael
@Lotusisrael Місяць тому
A true delight. Usually, I am not into fan fiction, but this one I truly enjoyed. And I do not mean the voice or the visuals, but the story itself. The voice and the video are really good, do not get me wrong but, without the story, they would be empty shells at best. The Professor himself said that, after he will be gone from this world, that he would like other minds to contribute and build upon the foundation he made, and works like this fit precisely in his vision. I hope that, after his works enter public domain (The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings shall be public domain in many countries in about ten years.), more like this is will be created, published and appreciated.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks Lotus! What a comment, this made my day. I did put a lot of effort into the story, and it really grew as the work progressed. Every sentence of the script is finely tuned. I hope they story fits into the universe of Tolkien, first I was a bit doubtful, mostly because of the blood and gore I wanted to display. In the end I toned it down a bit, to keep it more family friendly 🙂
@john-er6or
@john-er6or Місяць тому
I’ve never heard anything of the sort that “Tolkien expected other minds to expand upon his story.” Sounds like something that Amazon would say in defense of their atrocity “Rings of Power.” I looked it up, and all I could find was someone on Reddit saying the exact same thing, with no actual quote from Tolkien expressing that sentiment.
@shanti8554
@shanti8554 Місяць тому
The narration, visuals & music are markable
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you for the compliment, really appreciate it!
@gayprepperz6862
@gayprepperz6862 2 місяці тому
Great presentation! I look forward to seeing more of your work.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thank you man!
@buddhahoodlum1
@buddhahoodlum1 Місяць тому
Excellent video. You told the Witch King's story very poetically and the visuals were a sight to behold.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks a lot mate, your comment motivate me to improve upon the next video.
@annabjorkenvall7183
@annabjorkenvall7183 Місяць тому
Absolutely amazing, thank you!!!!
@SlimGeeza
@SlimGeeza 2 місяці тому
I have to say love the presentation, would love to see further stories realised this way 👏
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thank you! More stories will be brought to life, be sure of it :)
@TheStrudelJonny
@TheStrudelJonny 2 місяці тому
this channel deserves more subs
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thank you Jonny! Some day perhaps 😀
@Zakalwe76
@Zakalwe76 Місяць тому
Great job. I'm sure the channel grow quickly.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you! If I continue to post videos people enjoy then hopefully
@jansandman6983
@jansandman6983 Місяць тому
Okay this is the best in-depth lore of the witch king so far found in youtube. I love it.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I really appreciate the sentiment, Thanks Jan!
@JohnvanGeenen
@JohnvanGeenen 2 місяці тому
Just marvelous. Love it.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thank you John!
@agentsmith2378
@agentsmith2378 Місяць тому
Great vid bro.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks mate!
@RFCEB99
@RFCEB99 Місяць тому
Love this channel
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you!
@jeffco5237
@jeffco5237 Місяць тому
Well done, I always liked the Witch King from Lord of the Rings
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you Jeff! The Witch King is a fascinating subject indeed
@LV-ei1ce
@LV-ei1ce Місяць тому
Wow amazing ! Just subbed
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you 🙂
@aivideoyoutube
@aivideoyoutube Місяць тому
Great video Beautiful images
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you man!
@IGathron
@IGathron Місяць тому
Very well done I'm liking your take on the Witch King.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I am happy you enjoyed it, Gathron!
@albertlamar5938
@albertlamar5938 Місяць тому
This was outstanding! It could well be filled out into a full length book. It reminds me of the passages from Tolkein in which many Numenoreans envied the Elven immortality, and feared the unknown of death. In the Appendix completion of Aragorn and Arwen's story, she admitted that she once dismissed them as fools, but now that she faced losing Aragorn to death, and knowing that it was her fate as well, she understood. This does not excuse the Witch King, but in a world in which immortality existed for some, but not others, the rage and insanity becomes more comprehensible. Many thanks.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Many thanks! You bring up really good points. I wanted to convey this mad search for Immortally, and it becomes so twisted in the end. What does he have to live for in those last decades leading up to him meeting Sauron..., I don't think he even knows the answer to that. It just becomes this thing where his ego completely runs amok, and it refuses to let go of the bodily form. Although he is absolutely terrified what the after life might hold for him, that is for sure. Thanks again for watching
@williambrown2763
@williambrown2763 Місяць тому
Awesome, this would have fit right in to something like the Book of Lost Tales seamlessly as if it was written by Tolkien himself! Amazing! Definitely got a new sub here.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you! such a heart warming comment
@raymcgeough6572
@raymcgeough6572 2 місяці тому
Love this and hope to see more of these! Just one critique if you don’t mind? The Dark Lords name is pronounced more Sour-on instead of Sore-on. I’d loveeee to see one of these videos for each of The Nine!
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thanks you, I am more than delighted! And you are totally correct, for the next section the pronunciation should be on point One video for each Ringwraith is a neat idea, it is going into the todo list :)
@raymcgeough6572
@raymcgeough6572 2 місяці тому
@@numenorean81 subscribing to your channel, man. Great stuff here!
@yomama211
@yomama211 2 місяці тому
Ai cant pronounce Sauron
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
There you are correct. If I narrated though, it would be a catastrophy :)@@yomama211
@john-er6or
@john-er6or Місяць тому
I have to say that although interesting, this is pure speculation, as we know next to nothing about the witch king’s history. He may have been Numenorean, but Tolkien actually never wrote anything concrete concerning the witch king’s origins. Cool video, though.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
You are absolutely right. Huge creative liberties was taken when creating this
@458joey
@458joey Місяць тому
It's still a great story, though. And since we don't have anything on the witch king, I will take this as rhe best answer. It's perfect in my eyes.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I am very happy to hear that. Thank you!@@458joey
@john-er6or
@john-er6or Місяць тому
@@458joey Well, then let’s just rewrite the whole story, then. I guess you’ll be happy that in the new version, Sauron is our hero and the story is written from his perspective, lol. And the story ends with Sauron getting his One Ring back from Frodo (who he decides to punish slowly with torture) and the ultimate victory over Aragorn and all others who oppose Sauron by making them slaves. You should be fine with that, since you’re willing to accept whatever theory someone besides the original author puts forward.
@krob5375
@krob5375 Місяць тому
We know that 3 wraiths were numenorean lords, so it's probably a safe bet that the witch king was one of them.
@joshualittle877
@joshualittle877 27 днів тому
Pharazon was the leader of a group that became known as the Black Numenoreans who went to Middle Earth and put the lesser men under tribute and servitude and opposed the Elves and Valar. The Witch King was likely one of Pharazons Generals or field commanders.
@davidryan0808
@davidryan0808 Місяць тому
utube always throws awesome new channels my way :) And next week I am so dusting off Middle earth 2 :The Rise of the Witch-king. Also, what wonderful use of tools to make your story shine
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks man! Appreciate the sentiment. Playing some good old Tolkien games sound like a wonderful idea :)
@TCO06
@TCO06 Місяць тому
Pure speculation but at this point I'm starving for more videos with this quality. Well made thanks a lot
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you, happy you like it!
@user-fj8qq6bl5q
@user-fj8qq6bl5q 2 місяці тому
Nicely done dude, strange though saying he was a descendant of numennor as it’s known that three of the nine were high lords of numennor.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Thank you! You could see it as a bit of creative liberty that I took. I tried to convey that he was part of a strong Numenorean lineage. This might not be to everyone's liking
@Morzok
@Morzok Місяць тому
there were even rumours that the witch king was a distant cousin of the main line of kinship of numenor
@MichaelMedici61W2
@MichaelMedici61W2 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81great video looking forward to seeing the rest of your content and future videos. Where are these clips that you used from? They’re really good.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
@@MichaelMedici61W2 Thank you. I create the clips using a few different programs. midjourney and runwayml.
@CoryAY82383
@CoryAY82383 Місяць тому
Nicely done.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you mate!
@CoryAY82383
@CoryAY82383 Місяць тому
@numenorean81 definitely an interesting take on what he could have been
@davechristoffersen6633
@davechristoffersen6633 Місяць тому
Simply amazing well done +1 sub
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you my man!
@jasonleveck8546
@jasonleveck8546 Місяць тому
This is a wonderful presentation. Really helps the viewer get invested. Great job my friend!
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you Jason, much appreciated!
@johnprimm35
@johnprimm35 Місяць тому
Great efx. Interesting ideas.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you John
@1101millie97
@1101millie97 Місяць тому
An interesting take. Since we know so little about the Witch King (except he was of Numenorean ancestry), there is room for imagination. Here's how I would go about it: Shortly after the rout and annihilation of Sauron's forces by Numenoreans under the command of their Admiral Ciryatan and his father King Tar-Minastir, a Numenorean nobleman by the name of Angmar with genetic ties to the royal family (and therefore the bloodline stretching all the way to Luthien and Melian) who had fought alongside his friend and future King, settled to the north of Eriador with his family. He had a normal childhood, with a loving family of his own, and with his followers he built up his realm. As his children grew up and had children of their own (and those children had their own children, etc.), he yearned to continue to live a life so charmed with the love and life and vitality of his family and their descendants all around him. Into this mix stepped a figure of great power, yet appeared like a Numenorean so handsome and persuasive he charmed all those around him. First he convinced Angmar's wife of the righteousness of his intentions, knowing she would be the one person Angmar loved, cherished, and trusted the most. Then with her by his side, they convinced Angmar to take up the Ring of Power that would enable him to continue to live this charmed life, convinced by him and her that not only would he benefit from this Ring of Power, but everyone around him, and would live life eternal. It was not just eternal life that beckoned him, but also that Numenor itself could benefit by growing ever more powerful if he would take up his best friend's offer, and come back home to Numenor (Tar-Ciryatan having since succeeded to the throne) to be by his side, advising him and helping him govern this growing empire. He grew close to Tar Ciryatan's son who would become Tar-Atanamir, and among others, it was he who debated the Eldar who came to visit Numenor (on behalf of the Valar) when they became concerned over Numenor's growing discontent over the Ban and the Gift (of death). Partly thanks to the man who would become the Witch King, the Numenoreans were left unconvinced by elven arguments, and so continued their spiritual descent even as they became ever more powerful and numerous, dominating Middle Earth. He eventually returned home to Angmar when he began to realize he had been lied to when his wife died, as did his older children of an old scourge -old age. But the Ring of Power that had been given to him had now such a hold over his mind he could not now set it aside, and he began to fade from the visible world. Just as he was physically weakening and visibly fading, that same mysterious figure who first offered and convinced him to take up that Ring of Power returned to Angmar now that he was no longer able to resist him, and weaved spells of magic binding Angmar's soul to his will, and took his Ring. From then on, he became a Nazgul, but given his bloodline from the Line of Elros, he was inherently and exceptionally powerful, more so than any of the other Nazgul, and to him Sauron taught him nearly everything he knew. Eventually due to plague, Angmar's entire remaining family was wiped out, as with most of their followers who settled with them. After the War of the Last Alliance had nearly destroyed Sauron's power (except for his One Ring), he was sent on his Master's behalf back his old home, and as the Witch King he conjured up the souls of all who had died, and bound them to his will as Sauron had done to him, and with the wild men and orcs he built up the evil realm of Angmar (his old name) to ultimately destroy Arnor and its remnant kingdoms of Rhudaur, Cardolan, and Arthedain, and wipe out Elendil's royal bloodline in the north. He nearly succeeded.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Wow. That is a great story! Much more subtle in many ways than my take. Impressive
@1101millie97
@1101millie97 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 Honestly I hope the Rings of Power producers (assuming that show isn't entirely a lost cause) would take up either your or my interpretations on what turned a living, breathing man into an evil Nazgul and the Witch King.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
@@1101millie97 Don't hold your breath. 😏
@norukiller3263
@norukiller3263 Місяць тому
Holy crap how many hours did it take you to make this video? It looks amazing!
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks man! About 100 hours give or take.
@franciswalsh8416
@franciswalsh8416 Місяць тому
Very good! He fell as the Black Numenorians fell. and that works perfectly because that is who he was.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you!
@anadmirer8789
@anadmirer8789 Місяць тому
This would make an incredible movie. 😀
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks Yeah! In fact, Amazon just bought the rights for 250 pesos. they promised to deliver a inclusive family drama. Can't wait! 😄
@AerialEmber
@AerialEmber Місяць тому
1:34 ah, those electric lamps in the third age were the best 🤣
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Indeed, he just found it at the local market 😆
@jhwheuer
@jhwheuer Місяць тому
Which LLM are you using for the visuals?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I am using Leonardo for the image creation and runwayml for animating. Thank you for watching!
@samlivingston4130
@samlivingston4130 3 дні тому
Alright. Here's what I'm thinking, my "head canon." The man who becomes the Witch King was the son of the Numenorean Admiral Ciryatur. Ciryatur remained in Eriador after the War of the Elves and Sauron and eventually established a stronghold outside of what became Angmar to guard Eriador against the Orcs and evil men that fled north. His mother was also a Numenorean. I don't want the Witch King, or any of the Nazgul, to be of the line of Elros. Or to have ever set foot in Numenor. The name for this character, I came up with the name "Enmar." This character was born after the War of the Elves and Sauron, so say 1800 of the Second Age.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 дні тому
I like the theory! It certainly lends plausibility, given Admiral Ciryatur unknown whereabouts after he helped defeat Sauron. The timeline would fit
@samlivingston4130
@samlivingston4130 18 годин тому
@@numenorean81 Maybe him being Ciryatur's grandson works better.
@informedconsumer5293
@informedconsumer5293 Місяць тому
Why is this relatable?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Do we all have a Witch King inside of us, fighting to take over? 😄
@ciachofil
@ciachofil Місяць тому
In a way though, they were only humans who kind of overcome gift of Iluvatar and became immortal as they were always jealous for. There was a Tuor who was welcomed into Aman and count for Eldar but thats a little different as they haven't ever left middle-earth and they were technically still humans although kept in undead state between life and death, chained to Arda with the power of Ring.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
They jelously for Immortality is probably a common denominator for all of them, so you are definitely right!
@ironwolvesproductions6283
@ironwolvesproductions6283 Місяць тому
I always felt that Tal-Elmar is the origin story for the Witch King.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
That would be appropriate as well.
@Mentallect
@Mentallect Місяць тому
He was likely a one of the most powerful human sorcerers that ever lived before his transformation into the WK.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I agree again. Could have emphasized that a little stronger perhaps
@Mentallect
@Mentallect Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 He was definitely a flawed sociopath that grew ever more cynical, jaded, and made worse due to his necromancy obsession and his power as a King which provided resources to feed his ideological flaws. I enjoyed the videos detailed transitional explanation of the WK's supervillain arc.
@samlivingston4130
@samlivingston4130 Місяць тому
I like this.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks Sam, happy you like it
@samlivingston4130
@samlivingston4130 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 Your welcome. I've been trying to imagine a compelling origin story for the Witch King. I think him being of Numenorean descent, and not having lived in Numenor works better. Same can be said for the other two Nazgul who were said to be of Numenorean background.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Місяць тому
We know almost nothing about the Nazguls' identities. This is remarkable considering what they became. This was certainly deliberate on Tolkien's part. The less we know, the more fearsome they are. Tolkien's basically saying, "Use your imagination." Which you did! Well done.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you! Yeah, that is the fear of trying to write such a story, it can easily fall flat if it makes the protagonist less fearsome.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 What program is this?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
@@squamish4244 if you mean what I use to create the imagery, it's called midjourney.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 Yes. Thanks.
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 18 днів тому
@@numenorean81 So far with your videos about him you've done a great job. Will you do a video describing the Witch-King's human years after he received the Ring? His youth and vigour returned, and he became one of the Nine who were "mighty in their day, kings, sorcerers, and warriors of old". Then the wreathing process that slowly turned him into a slave. That would be very cool.
@ufoenigma7858
@ufoenigma7858 Місяць тому
Imagine when this will be animated !! Give it a few more years with Ai of course and we will see some amazing games out there..
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
That will be mind blowing 🙂
@leightonolsson4846
@leightonolsson4846 Місяць тому
He had great hair, I think we can all agree on that
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
You make a very good point! A topic worthy of its own separate film 😀
@ttan2908
@ttan2908 2 місяці тому
What is the font used in the thumbnail called?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
The font was created using midjourney, so it does not have a name I am afraid!
@ttan2908
@ttan2908 Місяць тому
That deeply saddens me. I am in love with it.@@numenorean81
@TheForcesWrath
@TheForcesWrath Місяць тому
Amazon failed us hard they could have done something like this
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I am happy you believe that. It would have interesting...
@daveowens271
@daveowens271 Місяць тому
Totally consistent with Tolkien. I thought it was appropriately sympathetic. Great storytelling.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thank you Dave, that is the biggest compliment!
@tiplady44
@tiplady44 Місяць тому
A good fantasy story nothing more nothing less 🤗👍
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I could not ask for more, thank you!
@samlivingston4130
@samlivingston4130 20 днів тому
How long after do you imagine this taking place after the War of the Elves and Sauron?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 18 днів тому
In my mind, most likely between SA 1800 and SA 1850. Things are usually moving quite slowly, dark Lords and wizards alike, like to take their time in Middle-earth 😄
@pedrovargas2181
@pedrovargas2181 Місяць тому
Waaait, "Angmar" was founded when the Black Captain was a Wraith a few thousand years old.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
You are correct, I should have mentioned that... Thanks for your input!
@jose280714
@jose280714 Місяць тому
Are you making all this narrative? Or which books does belong to?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I made it, there is almost no information available about his life or who he was in the books. And thanks for watching jose!
@jeremygreenwood1021
@jeremygreenwood1021 Місяць тому
Thank you I yearn to know more about these villains and your visuals are stunning. However you are too vague about dates and I disagree with your idea of his evolution. I think it was even more tragic. I think the 9 rings were distributed around TA1500, but it was only around TA1600 that Celebrimbor discovered the truth about Annatar. At this time many Numenoreans were arrogant and lacking in compassion, but they had not yet been seduced to outright evil. I suggest that until he was given his ring he was a hero, powerful and mostly good, and that this remained the case for around the first hundred years of his possession. Perhaps it was the effects of the 9, and perhaps the 7, on their owners that first alerted Celebrimbor to the true nature of Annatar. Thus the Witch king accepted his ring from what he believed to be powers of the light, and he remained with the light until shortly before Sauron declared himself and invaded Eregion. There is no suggestion that the Nazgul aided Sauron until long after the inundation of Numenor, perhaps even long after the war of the Last Alliance. Therefore the Witch King probably did not turn completely evil until he was well on the way to becoming a wraith.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
It is possible you found a hole in my story 🙂, in my version he was certainly never good or a hero. He had such ambitions when he was young. But those dreams were crushed under the weight of all his responsibilities and his natural curiosity towards the dark arts. In my vision the ring initially heals his body and invigorates him, making him age backwards. This state could last for a century, however he still continues with the necromancy. Then as the years go by the ring's influence grows and it gradually overtakes his mind. Thanks for watching and your thoughtful comment, appreciated reading it!
@john-er6or
@john-er6or Місяць тому
I think you mean SA (Second Age) not TA (Third Age). The rings were made in the second age, not the third. Also, if you look into the appendices of the Silmarillian, it states that the Ringwraiths first appeared before the end of the SA, although not much else is mentioned of them.
@joshualittle877
@joshualittle877 27 днів тому
While it's a great story there are some real problems with it from a Canon perspective. Angmar was founded by The Witch King himself long after he had been a wraith and Lord of The Nazgul for some time as the Ring Wraiths first appeared in 2251 of the Second Age and Angmar was not founded until 1300 of the Third Age meaning the Witch King and his fellow wraiths were already thousands of years old by that point. He( the Witch King did not grow up a Lord or Angmar that did not yet exist that kind of rediculas. See how the timeliness does not make sense. Now Tolkien tells us at least three were Lord's of Numenor. Lord's not Kings. People get confused because in the Peter Jackson Film Arigorn said they were once Kings, Great Kings of Men. Some of them no doubt could have been but not Kings of Numenor as the last King of Numenor was Ar -Pharazon who left to attack Valinor and never returned and the Island got sunk like Atlantis. While Tolkein never said which wraiths were Lord's of Numenor its most likely the Whtch King was such a lord as he was the mightiest by a wide margin. We Know Kamul the second in command was an Easterling so that leaves him out. Numenor fell in 3319 of the Second Age and when it did Sauron was there and even prior to that Lord's of Numenor had gone to Middle Earth and subjugated lesser men. So as the Witch King was already a Wraith before Sauron was Captured and taken to Numenor where he spent 57 years corrupting the king and the Kingdom the Witch King and at least two other Wraiths were likely some of these Lord's of Numenor who had come to Middle Earth and subjugated other men and remained behind when Sauron went to Numenor. Thus the Witch King was never a King until he founded Angmar in the third age. If I was writing the show I would make the Witch King one of the Numenoreans that Sauron Interacts with in the Rings of Power TV Show. Someone Sauron had already begun to corrupt in the first Season, maybe in a scene we didn't see in season one that occurred off screen. Personally had Tolkein not already stated that AR Pharazon went with the fleet to Valinor he would have been the best candidate to be the future Witch King. It was Pharazon in the books before he became King that lead the Numenoreans who went to Middle Earth to enslave lesser men so the Witch King was likely one of his former Generals.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 24 дні тому
A scholary comment, and your knowledge definitely spans further than mine. I understand that my take does not really hold up to scrutiny, so much plot armor needed 😏 Thanks for watching man, hope you decide to stay!
@abubakarkaila2616
@abubakarkaila2616 2 місяці тому
I wonder where you get the source material of the witch king as a kid
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
The story is made up. As stated, it is speculative to say the least. I saw a vision where he is very innocent as a kid, but then turning into a grotesque monster as he ages, using horror elements. Tolkien might be turning in his grave :)
@yomama211
@yomama211 2 місяці тому
@@numenorean81just admit its AI bro
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
​@@yomama211believe what you will. And the story is not something super unique. But the focus here is on the subtle details, where it matters, IMO.
@BenFrayle
@BenFrayle Місяць тому
What a joke. Won't be subscribing or following.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I don't know you what you think is a joke, but sad to see you go!@@BenFrayle
@baburnit
@baburnit Місяць тому
The repetition and writing style gives it that wonderful generative AI emptiness.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Sad to see you go!
@AL-ku1zq
@AL-ku1zq Місяць тому
This is wonderful. It is an absolute shame what Amazon has done with RoP. They have hired you and or other experts in the Lore. On the feed right after this is Nerdrotic talking about the eventuality of Season 2 of RoP.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Agreed, Amazon completely slaughtered Tolkien's vision. Hopefully it can only get better from here... Or can it? 😄
@AL-ku1zq
@AL-ku1zq Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 I think Amazon has lost the trust of those who were interested. It'd take an expensive restart or an entirely different studio and all people attached to it.
@pmanolak
@pmanolak Місяць тому
This has nothing to do with Tolkien. Looks like more a demo about how AI can draw pictures, which btw are excellent.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
You are right, you could call this fan fiction.
@thuzan117
@thuzan117 Місяць тому
if you intend for him to be of numenorean descent then surely it would make more sense for him to have been on Numenor? Unless Angmar was a Numenorean colony.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
In my mind, his parents had a life on Numenor. But for some reason they moved to their castle on the mainland a decade or so before he was born.
@ronniecorbett6306
@ronniecorbett6306 Місяць тому
His name was Melvin.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I can't dispute it
@hodgymowagy7521
@hodgymowagy7521 Місяць тому
Music is too loud. Trouble hearing what you are saying
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Will adjust the levels in the future. Thanks for watching!
@republikadugave420
@republikadugave420 Місяць тому
Wasnt Angmar established by the Witch king??
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Yes, you are totally correct. I could have pointed that out. Thank you!
@Mentallect
@Mentallect Місяць тому
It would have taken several human lifetimes to complete the transformation from human to Witch King.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I agree. If we continue this storyline, the ring would initially have healed up his body, infused it with youth and vitality. Bringing him back into a well looking middle aged lord. From there the process is slow, several centuries, perhaps even longer, for him to transform.
@HepatitisBChannelHepatitisB
@HepatitisBChannelHepatitisB Місяць тому
I think you got it all wrong I think the witch King was numenor born from a great family who had a city and lands in harad or umbar.... his youth and childhood would be good but arrogant and the ring would of enslaved and corrupted him.... as a wraith only sauron would be influencing him... a path like denethor.... or boromir....
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Your version could certainly be interesting to explore further
@HepatitisBChannelHepatitisB
@HepatitisBChannelHepatitisB Місяць тому
@numenorean81 just high men of numenor would of had good homes ... even kings men.... the nine were made 1500..... the nazgul appear 2200 .... umbar and peligar where only made 2280 So no way a numenorean was reigning near rhudaur between 1500 to 2200...perhaps a high lord from numenor at tharbad or vinyalonde... with 3 high Lords from numenore corrupted... their visiting Lords at these two towns and perhaps belfalas seem key places
@jamiehargett7176
@jamiehargett7176 Місяць тому
OR HE GAVE IN TO THE TEMPTATION AND DARKNESS OF SIN AND SORCERY BECOMING EVIL
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Yeah you are very close to home.
@lynneglendenning947
@lynneglendenning947 Місяць тому
Philip killed his parents. Aragorn killed him.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
As in prince Philip? :)
@andrewvining2438
@andrewvining2438 Місяць тому
Nice story doesn't really follow the whole middle 16:47 earth story line
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!
@Ranlac_the_Black
@Ranlac_the_Black Місяць тому
Routine? He is but one of nine.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I can see your point. Still the 'routine' argument can still be viable depending on whether he was first or the last in line, and how long it took to distribute the rings.
@dedmeet11
@dedmeet11 2 місяці тому
AI is getting crazy
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Yes, the possibilities are improving each day!
@yomama211
@yomama211 2 місяці тому
AI, AI.....Oh
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Oi, oi!
@petermercury
@petermercury Місяць тому
I'm Sy Tol Kien and I ask you to stop your sludge and follow the works of JD and P. No more I say.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Please expand, i feel out of the loop!
@Tsathogguah
@Tsathogguah Місяць тому
Make up a bunch of stuff and run it through the AI.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Storytelling in a nutshell!
@fleetcenturion
@fleetcenturion Місяць тому
I stole a couple images for wallpaper... otherwise, unimpressed.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Ok 🙂
@angrypidgeon1714
@angrypidgeon1714 Місяць тому
what does the witch king and Jesus Christ have in common? Jesus Christ said what good is gaining the world if you lose your soul? And you thought Tolkien is original :P
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Exactly! There are so much good stuff to take inspiration from in the ancient texts/heroes
@sayagarapan1686
@sayagarapan1686 Місяць тому
Fan fiction. Hmm.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Yeah. I can't argue with that.
@nole8923
@nole8923 Місяць тому
Are you sure this isn’t about Vladimir Putin?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Who knows right?
@TheSunderingSea
@TheSunderingSea Місяць тому
AI generated slop.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
If you say so
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Місяць тому
AI generated images, with AI generated Writing with a AI generated Narration Voice. Mate, you're not doing anything transformative with this. It's just lazy prompting off of the backs of others. Why don't you actually get someone to voice over your videos who would do it for free and hire an artist, or is that too hard or real for you?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Man, I easily put a hundred hours into this project. To call this lazy is just... Well, lazy. My aim isn't really to do something transformative, as you put it. I just aim to create something enjoyable and that I deem beautiful. Also, to hire real people for this is totally unrealistic. Imagine the time, and ultimately the cost... I know AI pisses many people off but it such a great tool in storytelling.
@Thamb0
@Thamb0 Місяць тому
@@numenorean81 I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are an absolute liar. The story was 100% done with AI. You merely put instructions into the AI story generator. I could tell only minutes into the story that this was done by AI. Some people in the comments might just be too stupid to comprehend how robotic and fake the story sounds, but most can see through the B.S.
@GeneralFarmer
@GeneralFarmer 2 місяці тому
More AI trash
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Why is it trash to you? AI can be a useful tool. Just imagine the budget and the planning for a short like this in the real world. We could be talking about millions of dollars.
@GeneralFarmer
@GeneralFarmer 2 місяці тому
@@numenorean81 Exactly, we live in the real world, if you want to make somethinng resepecful, do the work. AI is just an excuse lazy people are using to milk the work done off of others before them, trying to create justified plagarism and monetize it, taking clicable real estate away from people who actually know how to write a script, act and use a camera, that is why it is trash.
@paulvmarks
@paulvmarks Місяць тому
No - the Witch King was a Numenorean, he was not as you describe.
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
To me he could still be can still a Numenorean even if his family had not lived there for one or a few generations
@gammon1183
@gammon1183 Місяць тому
A good back story for the witch king would be cool but this is a tiresome mess of AI
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Thanks for watching. Any part that is especially tiresome for you?
@Thamb0
@Thamb0 Місяць тому
This is an AI generated story. If people actually listened and had critical thinking skills, they would see that the story makes almost zero sense at any time. The individual parts in the story elaborate on literally nothing. You literally typed in some prompts and parameters for the story in the AI generator and this is the one you ended up picking.
@habitualresistor9548
@habitualresistor9548 Місяць тому
It's interesting that not one person in here, which I am sure there is more than a few Tolkien fanatics, and I assure you there is at least ten, have said nothing g about it being inaccurate in anyway. So either it is YOU that is not paying attention, or you are flat out just making shit up, or...you are an AI and cannot tell that this IS lore. 🤔
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
I am interested in hearing where the story makes zero sense. "You literally typed in some prompts and parameters for the story in the AI generator and this is the one you ended up picking." Not true. You can try that for yourself and see how it goes...
@jiujitsuforlife89
@jiujitsuforlife89 2 місяці тому
Was this the chump ya defeat in War of the North?!
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 2 місяці тому
Actually that is another foe, just as deadly it would seem! He is named Agandaûr, and is a descendant of the Black Númenóreans and is a very formidable minion of Sauron in the game. Thanks for watching!
@Finn_MacCool
@Finn_MacCool Місяць тому
Gimme a break. What is this AI generated tripe?
@numenorean81
@numenorean81 Місяць тому
Guess we won't be seeing you again
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