He has more estrogen.

lmao.. nailed it

Matt Boyd 😂

Matt Boyd Whoopie Cushion and Joyless, my favorite.

except for the conservative one.

🤣 he went full retarded for that role

Minus the humility to see it, because his character did.

Comment of the century lmao

This might be the best comment ever.

Best comment ever!!

And he keeps on saying that he was waiting for Sam to explain

Everything Ben Affleck said was right. Imagine if I said “the Talmud is the motherlode of bad ideas: it says every jew can have 2800 gentile slaves” and then pointed to the opioid epidemic perpetrated by a Jewish pharma family as part of the Talmudic values hurting our society…

🙏🙏

Bill Maher and Sam Harris both react in similar fashion when they are confronted by people who know they’re talking about. Ben Affleck is a lightweight. But when Bill Maher discussed the issue with Piers Morgan, he went irate. When it was Glenn Greenwald, Maher started the smug comments. Sam Harris in his argument with Noam Chomsky tried some painfully stupid thought experiment. In this particular theory, Harris and Maher’s position is very simple “It’s okay when we do it.”

Sam Harris and Bill Maher are just two logical guys who just happen to be Jewish using facts and reason to conclude that Israel is our greatest ally and Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas.

Ben is like "but I'm big and handsome!"

Or irrelevant. Fuck this hits hard today

Ben must cringe at this daily

This aged like shit. 10 years later, now we came to know, ISIS was made by hilary clinton, Al-Qaeda was made by CIA, USA invaded over 45 countries since WW2, including Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria wars... so stop blaming muslims for what YOU have created and done. Go educate yourselves, instead of listening to mainstream media that's been pushing agendas and brainwashing your stupid asses.

@@stevefrenchize I'm guessing Ben still thinks he put these intolerant assholes in their place...

The correct take lol The whole time I was watching this I was just like "lol.....Ben Affleck"

Experimental propaganda was a fun age in America.

Because celebrities live in movies their whole lives

For OUR entertainment. 🤣🤣🤣

The comment we deserved😂😂😂

As Bill Maher got upset when Piers Morgan took him to task about the Iraq War which we illegally waged. After being pressed Maher throws some flippant "Well that is the kind of stuff Noam Chomsky would say". Noam Chomsky and Sam Harris were in a beef because Noam Chomsky rightly said we are just as much to blame as they are. All Harris says is "Well what were our intentions?" scenario, and tries to use WWII as an example of how we are just the good guys. Fact is we have been stirring trouble not only in that region, but in other regions of the world as well. We make and break deals with other regions (Iran Nuclear Agreement). I can agree that Affleck was a little erratic, but without Harris and Maher acknowledging that most of this was our doing, it can easily lean towards bigotry. Especially in Harris' analysis, the conclusion will always be America is the noble, altruistic, and benevolent nation. Islam, they are barbarians. Personally I think Harris and Maher should be stripped of the liberal label and just go to the Neocons.

@@Stitchman3875 What?! America is supposed to be the reason behind bad ideas in Muslim doctrine...? Because that's what's being criticised here. They killed apostates and stoned homosexuals to death long before the United States were formed and "America bad" doesn't address the issue one bit.

@@se7enhaender Wrong, it all began when in 1953, we staged a coup in Iran and overthrew their democratically elected leader and installed a dictator and established an autocracy. All this so we can get cheaper oil. Then we kept their money after a revolution. Then in the 80's we backed Saddam Hussein when he fought Iran, while we knew he was killing people in his country. But we looked the other way. Al-Qaeda was part of the Taliban Government who we installed in Afghanistan after we backed them against the Soviet Union. We shot down an Iranian passenger plane and then said it was an accident. We started an illegal war with Iraq searching for fictitious WND's. Even recently, we pull out of the nuclear deal with Iran even though they were following it, and then sanctioned them, preventing their people from getting food and medicine. And then we have Saudi Arabia, the biggest Violator of human rights and the biggest sponsor of terrorism. Oh but wait, they're allies with the US, so it's cool, right? We entered a weapons deal with them, selling weapons which they used to commit genocide in Yemen. Not sure about you, but to me that kind of stuff tends to piss people off and would draw out the fanatics. We try to play it off like were the noble good guys, but we have shown the world that we are a bullying empire. That's why in spite of the Islamic Terrorism, the US still ranks number one as the biggest threat to world peace.

@@Stitchman3875 What does *ANY* of this have to do with *KILLING APOSTATES AND GAYS* because of religious belief?

se7enhaender Because we were the ones who fueled the fire for the fanatics to come out. We trained them, armed them, then turned them into our enemies. We don’t just do that in the Middle East, we do it in Central and South America too. We are in no way innocent in this matter. I mean the US backed 73% of the world’s dictators. As I said, what we have done in the Middle East will eventually draw out the fanatics.

That's the point of postmodernism.

Lol, so true.

Ha ha

@@gramma677the orthodox? You’re clueless on this matter, don’t comment.

Haha! It's dumb, but funny :D

Ha ha

Nice.

Mulguti Lol. That's not Ben Stiller...

There can only be one Ben.

evil ben stiller

Ben seems off, way too upset, cannot talk normally and is ruining the conversation. Overly angry and It’s a huge turnoff.

Lmao well said

@hahagotcha!!!! It would be easy to judge if Islamic radicals are 90% of Muslim population or 0.001% of Muslim population. But when it is 20%, that's very problematic for many people, because they like to think their ideology is always correct and other side is always wrong, so they can't understand why their story is only partly correct.

Couldn't have said better. Very underrated coment

Exactly.

@@davidleomorley889 I'm disgusted by American military actions in the middle East, but they aren't being done in the name of Christianity. The forced subjugation of women and gays in Muslim dominated cultures IS being done in the name of their religion. Yes, Western nations are immoral in their actions towards these countries, but it doesn't change the fact that these countries restrict the right of half of their populations based on bullshit immoral principles. Its insane how people automatically jump to hysterical claims of racism whenever people dare rationally bring up the fact that Muslim dominated countries restrict basic human rights, often violently

Ben probably has not moved an inch or rather he has dug himself into trenches to defend his position at all costs. But I agree, it will be interesting to find out.

opinion on what

Affleck was definitely obnoxious in this discussion. However, Harris and Maher's arguments can easily be summed up in six words, "It's okay when we do it." That has been their position back then and it still is today. When they are confronted with people who know what they're talking about, Harris and Maher do different version of what Affleck did here.

​@@Stitchman3875 there are islamic terror attacks every week in nigeria, syria, congo. afghani stabbed three women to death in austria this week. two teens in germany last week. a 16 year old in france. islam accounts for more terrorist incidents than all other religions combined. they have more terrorist organizations than hinduism has terrorist incidents. name a single hindu, buddhist, or sikh terror attack in the west. maybe you can find one. if you change the numbers to per-capita instead of absolute numbers, the values are off the charts.

Affleck has probably doubled down, Harris has gone off the deep end and Bill Maher is probably the only one still relatively sane.

Have you seen Team America.... I think thats how he would react ^^

How you like dem apples!

The brains of the operation knows when to STFU and let your friend crawl himself into a rehab.

It just goes to show that leftist retards like Affleck are alergic to facts and reality they can't emotionally deal with. Leftism has nothing to do with reality and facts and everything to do with their pseudo-religion of pretend time.

First this and now batman.. so sad :(

I remember listening to an old Opie and Anthony clip where they more or less said Ben is used to being at Hollywood parties where almost everyone agrees with him and/or wants to suck up to him so no one ever challenges his views. He's not used to debating with someone who A) is more informed than him on this issue and B) is not afraid of telling him off so he gets pissed because that never happens to him in his day to day life. It sort of reminds me of an Adam Corolla story where Adam had a huge, screaming match with a guy because Adam, to make a long story short, told this dude "fuck you" and the dude blew up with rage because, while some people get told "fuck you" every day, this guy turned out to be a high-powered Hollywood agent who was used to people kissing his ass and freaked out when after getting cussed at.

He's pissed off at ignorance. Id be mad too if I had to waste my time explaining why you're a bigot.

No, Affleck is pissed off because he is ignorant and while there is an argument against what Harris is saying (as the much smarter guy on Ben's side makes quite well), Affleck being an actor with very limited knowledge just doesn't the intellectual chops to make it. Again he's just a big Hollywood actor who is used to everyone just nodding their heads in agreement when he talks and isn't used to people actually arguing back.

How?

No Ben wins that. He was showing what a part of the democrat party is today, he would not shut up so there could actually be discussion. He was trying to shut everyone else down that he didn't agree with by talking over them. That's not how you have civil discourse.

@@JohnathanCamien well that sounds like a very republic thing to do if you base it off our current presidents average press briefing...

@@musiclaboratory9694 oh ok. If you say so.

No Ben is by far.

I am reading the comments and noticed that 99% of people are brainwashed

​@@mahmoudboutaleb6412 so anyone who opposes islam is brainwashed?

+TheRoseExperience I'm convinced he's on something in this appearance as well. You watch this dudes mannerisms and his actions and he's just off. He also stops making sense half way through the video, he's borderline incoherent to the other points these guys are making.

+TheRoseExperience Actually, if you listen carefully he was somewhat agreeing with what Sam Harris was saying, although a bit more emotionally attached to his argument and underlined it with subtle anti racism speech. Sam Harris was just adding that there are more jihadist then Ben thought and its ok to criticize the Islamic religion. :: After I posted this I continued to watch the video, and came to a knew conclusion. Ben actually doesn't know he agrees with Sam because of his rage possibly.

+TheRoseExperience He made a fool out of himself when he was born.

+Alloy Brendan annnnd we went there haha

He did the quite opposite actually, he's an intelligent and beautiful person. He's not ignorant like those other men, you don't judge a group of people for the whole religion. If they did that or say that, well that's on them but the majority of the religion doesn't so they have no right to judge a whole religion based on that. And If i believe that I am correct, the oldest and most correct bibles have the concept of "jihad" written on them but since you guys change the words of your lord every year by men, you guys don't know about it now do you now?

+Pham Nhat No Ben Affleck was just explicit unlike Bill and used common sense and morality.

+Sophie Jackson Tell you what, if Trump doesn't belong in the White House because he's a celebrity and he's only good for entertainment, then someone who makes a movie as bad as Gigli shouldn't belong on a political debate panel.

Can't compare Trump and Ben. IMPOSSIBLE!! BEN AFFLECK IS UNCOMPARABLE!!! Especially to a douche who wants to kick out all Muslims and is racist as f*ck!! And Trump doesn't belong to the White house not because of his crappy NOT GOOD entertainment but he is an absolute idiot. Where should I start? Who the f*ck wants a racist and discriminatory President?? And just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean they are property/objects that can't speak on political issues!! They ALL have the right. The only thing I'll stand up for about Trump is that he has the right to express whatever he wants but I'm against EVERYTHING he says! Ben Affleck I stand up for whatever he has to say + I agree with everything he says!! DON'T SUPPORT TRUMP I MEAN COME ON IT'S ALMOST 2016 AND PPL STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND EQUALITY, ONE OF THE BASIC ASPECTS OF LIFE!!..... BTW WHERE THE F*CK DID DONALD TRUMP COME FROM??

+Sophie Jackson Ben Affleck got famous because he looks good on film. Sam Harris got famous because of his intelligence. Affleck is no more qualified to comment on political or religious issues than you or Trump. And BTW Saint Affleck cheated on his wife.

+Patrick Sam Harris got famous because of his controversial ideas. Nothing intelligent!! Same like Miley Cyrus. The only reason you probably worship the bastard is because he is discriminatory like Trump. And Ben can say whatever the f*ck he likes to. It's your opinion on whether you think Ben is a good actor so let's put that aside. Now tell me what "qualifications" do you have to have to comment on political issues?? EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN OR NO ISSUES WOULD BE RESOLVED BY SILENCING PPL!! WHO THE F*CK IS SAINT?? IF YOU MEAN BEN THEN THAT'S HIS PERSONAL LIFE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!! AND BTW MOTHERF*CKER YOU DON'T KNOW ME SO YOU JUST PROVED WHAT A DUMB ASS YOU ARE BY SAYING I'M DUMB AS DONALD TRUMP. THE ONLY THING I SAID WAS BEN IS RIGHT IN THIS SCENARIO AND THE OTHERS ARE WRONG!! NOW KINDLY F*CK OFF!!

Except Islam is tolerant, it's the West that is historically intolerant by bringing 'freedom' to Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya and so on. But go on thinking the West is not evil. Also, Islam forbids interest and usury, the banks sure don't like that! But don't follow the money, or learn about the military industrial complex!

That was incredibly hard to get through

Perfect example of emotions vs logic.

I'm about as progressive/liberal as it gets....but I cannot _stand_ how liberals react to Islam, as though calling it out were....racist? It's a RELIGION(a religion opposed to nearly ALL liberal ethics), not an ethnicity. Religions are IDEAS...and scientifically-untrue immoral violent ideas *MUST* be criticized. Bill Maher & Sam Harris are the _only_ liberals who seem to get that. The #1 problem in the world today is *_religion._* Religion is *_by far_* the most destructive divisive violent force humanity ever invented. It's 2014...yet some people still get their morality & education from ignorant immoral ancient books!? That's *_insane_* and must change for us to survive. Religion is the antithesis of sanity morality & rationality.

***** that's not what he's saying. He's saying Islam and Muslims as a whole are bad. Yes it's okay to criticize bad ideas but to demonize a collect group, whether or not the believe in those bad ideas, is bigotry. They think this way, I believe they believe in something bad, therefore they are bad.

B eheliit The 2 are not mutually exclusive, ya know. That said, Affleck was a clown here.

John Potter yawn - ignorant comment

besides the fact that Saudi Arabia is certainly not a wholesome representation of Islam countries it is also quite astonishing to me that islamophobic arguments always lead to Saudi Arabia when in fact Saudi Arabia and the west have great relationship. and by the way there are people in Saudi Arabia speaking up for women's rights

Elif Koca Yeah right. Saudi Arabia is the most free and humanitarian country there is.

Nicky N True

Elif Koca Does the American government know that?? If yes, why SA is the biggest alliance for the USA? What we do know that MOST of the Arabic regimes are American puppets & this is essential to the existence of Israel. Why these dumps do not discuss women's rights in the Orthodox jews????!!!! Women in this community are not allowed to show a single mm of her body, not allowed to study, to meet the one she gonna marry....etc. you have more than 300000 there in NY. If there is a religion who violates human rights, then It's Judaism... When this SOB Bill Maher doesn't discuss this issue????!!! Bcoz he knows many American ppl trust him , so it's time to fool them.. You have to know that face veil existing ONLY in Judaism but not in Quran...& there is a big argument about this topic here in the Muslim world.

hold on are you speaking in broad generalizations defending Sam who is doing the same thing? ohhhh sam when i thought you were smarts

@@jtizzle1142 No. I got the feeling that Ben Affleck was looking at the audience for approval of his statements here. Sam Harris actually strongly believes what he claims here. You can listen to his Podcast.

Ah. Sam got it wrong. US Foreign Policy is the mother lode of bad ideas.

Indeed we see Jesus (P.B.U.H.) as a Prophet in Islam, it also discusses his childhood which Christians are ignorant of.

Perfection

He's not even taking part in the same conversation as the rest of them.

this comment is so funny. it needs more likes

Facts

Lol

underrated comment

On an episode in which he was a guest, Hitchens referred to the audience of Real Time as "The clap anything brigade"

The audience is the worst part of the show.

Made a comment similar to this but not as clever lol

Nope

Right? I come back to this video every now and then and it is never any less painful

So true and every time I see Ben afflict in something this is the first thing I think about it’s burned into my brain

How did Ben Actually convince himself that Sam Harris of all people was trying to be racist? It just blows my mind.

Islam is the elephant in the room we all try our best to avoid but must eventually acknowledge.

Bin al-Flecki have you also noticed how many people are scared that this is a racist attack on the people? Its crazy. This is simply a battle for the ideas that are holding them. I suppose it only makes sense given that when Criticising Islam, Middle Easterners consider it an attack on them as Brown people, in the same way that when Christianity was being criticised for the first time, Westerners considered it an attack on White people.

yes HE MADE ME FEELGOOD ABOUT MY SELF

After listening to Ben rant, I realized why he played LEGO Batman and not The Dark Knight Batman.

@@thefrontporch3591 LEGO Batman is Will Arnett. He's awesome!

Ben might bot be the best debater. But This Not fair! Everybody is mocking Ben Affleck! How about Sam?! He said he is well educated in Islam. I highly doubt that. Go watch Oxford debate about Islam, you will get answers for Sam! And stop basing your facts to polls all the time. If polls were so true, Trump would never be a president.

@@farruholimov7216 Maybe if you were well educated in that subject you would agree with Sam, I was born in a Muslim family and a Muslim country and I approve of everything he's saying; That if you announce you're leaving Islam you're a dead man and that's the original idea, not just some radical interpretation. Ben Affleck is being stupid for not listening and interrupting him constantly! My advice to you is replay the video and try to understand what Sam Harris is saying if you could hear him over Ben shouting angrily and non-stop.

You could remove “movie star” and just say person who prior to acting studied middle eastern affairs for about 1.5yrs- which Ben did and it was his college major. Something he then continued taking interest in.

@@janabrown9251 Which is no where near enough to act as a know-it-all on Islam as he is trying to act here. 1.5 Years of college studies on Islam? Are you serious?? People spend DECADES studying this and are far more credible that his closet islamist apologist.

A closed mind? 2:12 ""Islam is the motherload of bad ideas" What an incredibly ignorant thing to say, and you call him the open minded intellectual? Fair play to Ben Affleck!!

It's the other way around

I didn't see him talking to an open minded person, just saw 2 idiots talking about a subject that he had no idea what he was talking about. He even compared a hate crime to a death penalty. Thick idiots.

Damn right.

OMG this is so true

The whole argument could’ve ended in a minute. Ben Affleck is being obnoxious. But Sam Harris’ position in the whole is “It’s okay when we do it.” When confronted by people who know what they’re talking about, the do different versions of what Affleck is doing here.

Scott Stapp Jews ARE actually an ethnic group. A son of Jews can be an atheist or a christian, yet is still called Jewish.

Scott Stapp True that. Islam is still not a race. But Jews are an ethnic group, and some of them happen to follow the Jewish religion. Some others, like me, are proud atheists.

catothewiser Why?

+LesPaul2006 Jews have only been marrying out of their bloodline in the recent decades. Their bloodlines are highly homogeneous because of this.

jjhollier Evidence?

And Ben was just basically playing himself.

Affleck is definitely not wickedly smart

Damon sucks politically too. Writing Will Hunting is not being Will Hunting. They are both Affleck's character... - Great actors and writers though!

Hahah made me lol at work

smaaaaat

An Author of a book who's never visited the Middle east, who will not debate Noam Chomsky in public.

Clee Van Leaf So for the record you are saying that Ben isn't out of his league?

CyaLatte​ Ben is, but Sam Harris would be, should it be someone who knows, has visited and dealt with all religions for half a century. Sam is an equal opportunist, though he doesnt realise millions of peaceful Muslims are and have been also killed by fanatics but the numbers don't come close to deaths via Non religious and Christians in the last 100 years at least. He should brush up on his history of the crusades, and modern wars.

Sam is so obviously Jewish or favours Jews, which is why he gets so much air time despite having no qualifications in anything to do with history, religion or geopolitics. He's a neurosurgeon.

Clee Van Leaf And what of Hitchens who has been to the Middle East, who had similar things to say on Islam? Bringing Christians and the crusades into the debate is a non sequitur. One evil act does not wash out another. The crusades were hundreds of years ago, the problem of Islam is now. This is irrelevant. Jewish? Again non sequitur. Evidence? This is not an argument. You've brought nothing to the table except blatant fallacies and baseless accusations.

I've been to live recordings of shows like this, it's not unusual for someone behind the camera to just hold up an applause sign at all the hits. You may not catch every person clapping, but mob mentality hits a lot of people and gets em going. It's not a reflection of people agreeing with Ben as much as just manufactured TV magic

Like they're just glad to be there. No idea what's going on.

They are being liberal 🤣

Well, I mean, come on its the Bill Maher show

Jajaha

They’d just SPEW isLIEmoSUPREMACIST TAQQIYA like the FILTH they are🤮🖕👊🏿

Irrelevant. They’re discussing women and homosexual oppression within the group as a whole. Your point is just what Ben was making, and it’s so irrelevant if you are actually aware of the topic at all.😅

⁠​⁠​⁠@@majamomajamo3917 irrelevent to what exactly! ben was realist so what point YOU are trying to make here?

Mind that its an "intellectual debate"!

@@anismca2581 I would suggest you learn the fundamental fallacies of debate.

This aged like shit. 10 years later, now we came to know, ISIS was made by hilary clinton, Al-Qaeda was made by CIA, USA invaded over 45 countries since WW2, including Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria wars... so stop blaming muslims for what YOU have created and done. Go educate yourself, instead of listening to what others say

And what is funny

@@mohammadfarooqi6255 that Ben thinks criticism of extremist ideology is racist. First off, criticism of a religion wouldn't be racist. It would be bigotry. But nothing that was said was bigotry. Sam was critical of Islamic extremist while also saying we need to support moderate and secular Muslims who are voices of peace and understanding. Ben trying to be enlightened and woke on the topic is one of the most hilarious attempts at woke-scolding I've ever seen.

@@thatsameenergy And what about what Bill Maher said? Sam is an intellectual to some degree while Bill is a total idiot.

@@thatsameenergy nuh uh , sam and bill maher make fun of muslims as a whole , and generlizes them being extremist

+DaHobbitification He just blurts obscene amounts of bullshit out, I've no idea why they invited him to this talk.

No wonder his wife divorced him

I was thinking the same thing. He's one of those people who wants you to listen to him, but has no interest in listening to you. He's answering questions that aren't being asked, and he's reciting things he probably just read a day before. He doesn't acknowledge anything anybody else is saying. I can't stand talking to people like him...and it has NOTHING to do with his opinion; only the way he has a conversation--or should I say, the way he wants you to listen to him and only speak if you agree with him.

+DaHobbitification They would of invited him on because he's famous,but i think he's a terrible actor and it really annoys me that someone with no talent can get so many movie roles and paid so much,it's not as if there isn't millions of people with talent that are trying to get into acting.How does someone with no talent get the movie parts that he has had?,there has to be something behind it.

+DaHobbitification Wow Ben Affleck is really stupid

excellent suggestion! Beebs knows whats up, and unlike Ben here, maybe even not high on coke

I wonder what my car mechanic thinks about the Earth being flat? Wait, no I don't. I have my own life to live.

It makes about as much sense as asking Ben Affleck about how to be a good actor.

i could also tell he was really high on coke - he wasn't even listening to anyone but himself

Eyad Jaara Listen to his talks.

And they believe their own press

HAHAHAH. well said.

Did you even understand what Ben was saying. You think it is OK to stereotype 1.5 billion people based on their religion. When the fact is that Muslims have hundreds of different interpretations of their religion. Where was Ben wrong?????

@@ronmullick253 That's exactly the point. Sam Harris isn't against people, he's against bad ideas. Read a few chapters of the quran (in context) and you will find it's full of awful ideas. Most muslim countries have little respect for freedom: blasphemy is punishable by law and the scripture supports this. The quran and hadith are medieval books with any number of justifications for bad behavior, from wife beating to child marriage: unfortunately, large masses of the islamic word accept this.

@@ronmullick253 You didnt get Harris's point either!

yea that was the most frustrating part it's like it went right in one ear and out the other, he wasn't listening to what was being said. funny thing, he was strawmaning the argument WHEN the argument was being made, just talked right over top sam and told him what he thinks when he's talking and saying something completely different.

frustratingly redundant response ^

+Sol Sothis So it was worth a reply?

It happens to pretty much anyone that gets to emotional about a subject, they just become kind of retarded.

It's called standing up for what you believe in. You should try it some time.

Lol. So you got dumber as you got older?

How dare you. That's gross and racist.

well i dont blame him theyre racist

oh no some one tells the truth now their racist

altaris2000 it's all an act. he's putting it on and he knows how to increase the drama by making himself look good. he's an actor that's what he's good at.

I don't think you know what that word means.

The chicken Sam Harris has been running away from debating experienced Muslims & Christian apologists for years now! 😆

@@danielanderson2716 Yeah you really got Harris good with that post... Harris has done the debate circuit... he did it years ago. Get some new material.

@@markh1011 You're only spamming how Ben Affleck humiliated chicken Harris with his bullshit's in front of millions. Cry up harder, kiddo. Hehe! 😛😛😛

@@danielanderson2716 Harris calmly dismantled a man well out of his depth... It must have really hurt you... because you've cried about Harris all up and down the page.... The emojis represent your tears.... lol

@@markh1011 Affleck humiliated Harris in front of millions & that stings you. Try to cope, kiddo! 😛 You may commence the crying now! Hehehehe! 😜😜😜

Why is Islam the mother load of bad ideas?

lol no-one's convinced by your smug centrism you stupid cunt

@@mushi3101 why is lmfao the religon based on Christianity

@@mushi3101Because it’s fake, mind-rotting indoctrination! All to entrench you and enslave you, and make you full of hatred, anger, violence, and stupidity. It conditions and programs male domination, and egocentrism.

@@mushi3101 Sam Harris explains that in his podcast.

"I hate every person that clapped you" you hate? Why do you hate? I stopped reading the comment when i saw that line

***** you are nitpicking. That comment was on the made on the spur of the moment

***** oh and Sam Harris said "Islam is just a motherload of bad ideas" wtf is he talkin bout. It doesnt sound like he is "educated" on this topic

*****​ hav a friend from sudan who is a very strict muslim

Gavin Danaher Islam is the motherload of bad ideas. If you disagree you haven't read the Quran.

Connor Fitz-D ? ?? ??? So "criticizing" color is okay "criticizing" religion is okay "criticizing" a race is okay. what a nice twist u got there .

예은 :3 he’s talking about religion you utter imbecile, Islam is not a race. We should be able to openly criticise religion without having to fear for our lives, which Islam does not let us do.

Demonising people of one religion, culture or race is racism cretin, check the definition fool.

If its not urs then i dont think u have the right to "criticize" it + its still racist dont twist it and u don't hav to explain what he means i know what he means clearly without ur help go to Wikipedia then comment back if u want

Criticising a religion is not demonising of its followers. They're vastly different things. Criticising a belief is no different than criticising political beliefs, it's all a matter of opinion therefore it should be able to be criticised. Also, criticising a religion is not racism, racism is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." Islam is not a race therefore it is not racism.

You mean Islamophobic people ridiculing an entire religion with 2 billion+ people

So what's "Islam is the motherload of bad ideas" mean? Could you give an example?

The others bgts are a bunch of ignorant fc.ks

Good one :)

...now I know why jen left him

Nik D'Agostino he's a soyboy

that's funny!

Nik D'Agostino I like that very funny lol

+Collectorp123 Only Chris Hitchens could put then in their place!

+Collectorp123 I hear you mean. I stopped listing to this (converstation) because: People always think to much in black and white. Almost everything in the world is a mix of the two. THIS, is right and THAT is wrong. Thats how they talk to each other.

+Collectorp123 i genuinely thought u were being sarcastic when you started that comment. I'm really glad mr. Affleck said something to these ignorant ass people

+Collectorp123 It is, however, entirely possible and more likely that only a portion of the audience clapped for their Maher/Smith, and then a wholly different portion clapped for Affleck with little overlap between the two. Without seeing the audience on-screen, it makes more sense to choose the one scenario where we don't assume they're all manic schizos

DIE People should make up there own mind. Don't get ourselfs exited like a bunch of monkey's. And blindy following opinions of others without thinking first. I thought people where not this stupid bu have learned most of the them are. Okay stupid is the wrong word. But you get what i mean

semih oguzcan ,extremely.

semih oguzcan Because racism is a buzzword,and the majority will cheer for "celebrity A voicing opinion B on buzzword-related topic"(bonus points for acting emotional about it),ergo,Ben Affleck get easy exposure and gains popularity from the ignorant majority.

semih oguzcan what do you mean Islam is not a race? lol. of course it is. Are you confused? Race is not limited to someone's skin colour it includes people's political, religious and cultural beliefs also. So yes you can be racist towards Muslims no matter what their colour. Its the ideas we are at war with though, not the people. It's an attempt to make them think for themselves. Sometimes that can be mistaken for racism. Although some people racist towards Muslims do exist.

spac3m0nkey So you mean you can change your race? I thought race is biological, such as DNA. Chinese, etc. If you call culture and thoughts as race, then yeah in your definition of race the things you say is true. I checked the Oxford dictionary, and it says it is a genetic factor. But still, all religions have to go, call it a culture, or a race, name does not matter.

-_DiGiTaL _- Okay then let me ask you this. If Muslims are not a race, then which group is? Some people might immediately point to Black people, and say, “that is definitely a race. Look at their skin colour.” But, to be exact, Black people are not a race either. Neither, for that matter, are White people. Okay, now you might wonder about Jewish people? Certainly they are a race, right? Science proves they aren't like Whites and Blacks are not a race either. And what about Asians? Are they a race? Nope. Asians are not a race. The Indigenous People of America, a race? Nope, not a race. You see, there is no such thing as race or races, traditionally understood. Scientists long ago proved that race is not a biological reality but a myth, a socially constructed concept. Yet, despite the data, human beings have been programmed to associate specific things to certain “racial groups”; things like intelligence, work ethic, family values, and behavior. As such, we have been brainwashed to think that some groups are inherently better than others. Race - as one of my favorite sociologists, the late Stuart Hall put it - is a “floating signifier,” meaning that it is a fluid concept which has specific connotations during certain moments in history. Races, in short, have never been exclusively biologically determined but rather politically constructed by powerful people, usually dominant groups in societies. According to Hall, there is a new type of racism “cultural racism,” which is my focus here. Racism is no longer about race (skin colour) but culture. People are bothered and discriminated against not (simply) because of the colour of their skin (or other phenotypes) but because of their beliefs and practices associated with some “imagined culture.” Cultural racism, therefore, happens when certain people perceive their beliefs and customs as being culturally superior to the beliefs and customs of other groups of people. Cultural racism, in-turn, reproduces the idea of “the hierarchy of cultures,” meaning, in the context of current affairs, that “our” Western culture is superior to “their” Islamic culture. This way of thinking is problematic because it essentializes diverse classifications like “Westerners” and “Muslims.” It creates a binary of “Western = civilized” and “Islamic = uncivilized.” Bobby Sayyid, another favorite thinker of mine, argues that Islamophobia is undoubtedly a form of racism. He regards it as a type of racism that “takes up the white man’s burden for the new American century. It is a humanitarian intervention, not a mission civilisatrice; (Islamophobia) only wants to spread democracy not to expropriate resources; it does not want to exterminate ignoble savages, only to domesticate unruly Muslims.” In this context, the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan can be treated as wars driven by cultural racism. Bush wanted to spread “democracy” and “liberate” Muslims, particularly women, among other things. Muslims, he theorized, were incapable of developing these “culturally superior” ways of life on their own, so they must be molded and trained to be more like “us,” the civilized people. If racism represents systemic oppression based upon preconceived notions (or stereotypes) of particular social groups, then the U.S. government is most definitely guilty of racism. To be specific, cultural racism.

The meme of Islamphobia was created by Islamist to be sold to Liberals which licked it up like it was a double chocolate Baskin Robbins. and no I am not conservative I am as far left as you can get but I was not sold on lies.

valhala56 bullseye

"The meme of Islamphobia was created by Islamist to be sold to Liberals which licked it up like it was a double chocolate Baskin Robbins. and no I am not conservative I am as far left as you can get but I was not sold on lies." You sound like one though. More like a conspiracy nutjob at that.

valhala56 Insulting people doesn't further your argument.

***** Glad to hear that you don't think insulting people accomplishes anything. It makes me wonder, though, why you decided to call him a conspiracy nutjob. How about you both refrain from insulting each other unless you have something interesting to say.

Disappointment on Ben's face is understanding, he didn't know that percentage of radicals is, although they are still minority, that big. Liberals need to understand that their task is not just be against conservatives of their own country. Enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, he could be even worse.

You think this is bad, check out the Cenk Ugyar (TYT) vs. Sam Harris debate

@Corneilious38 No he doesn't you atheist snowflake

All he did was get angry that the only time Maher ever brings up Islam is to broad brush it in a negative light. Which, true... Do you all think if religion didn’t exist people wouldn’t look to science or other things to justify their bigotry? They already have.

Q: In the last one hundred years, how many Muslim nations have sent thousands of armed soldiers into western nations to overthrow their governments, torture their citizens, kill hundreds of thousands of their people, bomb their cities, conquer their societies and take the profits of their natural resources for themselves and the dictators they install in power? A: Zero times. Q: In the last one hundred years, how many western nations have sent thousands of armed soldiers into muslim nations to overthrow their governments, torture their citizens, kill hundreds of thousands of their people, bomb their cities, conquer their societies and take the profits of their natural resources for themselves and the dictators they install in power? A: Dozens of times. Name a muslim nation. I'll tell you when they were attacked. Give me a decade in the 20th century, I'll give you a list of Muslim nations that were attacked by the west during that period. Whatever anyone's views on Israel are, the very creation of Israel as a modern state was the end result of an act of white Europeans being horribly aggressive against semitic people in Europe. The backlash against that racism resulted in many European jews going south and taking out an act of aggression and terror against a native population of muslim people living in a land which had been called Palestine for decades. The muslim population were suddenly deemed unworthy of living on their land they and their ancestors had been living on since time immemorial because they weren’t jewish. Israel's race baiting, extremely violent settler movement has brought in hundreds of thousands of religious Europeans and extremist Americans who believe they have a "right" to take away a muslim family’s land and home....because they had an ancestor that was jewish and the land therefore belongs to them. Yes…the racist, violent, Israeli government has decided, with the backing of the violent empire, my own country, United States, that they have a “god given” right to take away any muslim family's home....whenever they chose to. What year is this?? It sounds more like the ancient crusades. Of course, If you dare to be honest about all of this, if you dare to point out a view that looks at the facts in a balanced and even way and doesn’t adhere to what this brainwashed society tells you you must believe,…you are called "antisemitic.” Why? Because that is the only thing they have left as a defense. After all of the excuses for their aggression and violent horrors have been examined and exposed….the last defense many have is to claim “You hate me because I’m Jewish”….or because I’m a Christian. Christian zionism is has a great deal to do with what fuels Israel’s ability to be vicious and cruel. Just imagine if the situation was the other way around, and western nations such as the US and UK had been experiencing what muslim nations have been receiving from the western nations for the last 100 years. Not only would there be more extremist views against Muslims in general, but western women would have less rights, less power and minorities would receive even more discrimination and oppression. If western nation’s governments had been overthrown by Muslim led nations, outspoken religious leaders would be controlling our governments today and those who rely on iron age theology would be dictating the nature of our political and social life. The western world, including Israel, is filled to the brim with blind, privileged, self-righteous idiots who have no idea how the world really works or why much of the developing world is such a mess. media.giphy.com/media/eTH6uICbjrc9G/giphy.gif CHRISTIANS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF TORTURE THAN NON-RELIGIOUS AMERICANS religiondispatches.org/christians-more-supportive-of-torture-than-non-religious-americans/ Churchgoers Most Supportive of Iraq War news.gallup.com/poll/21937/protestants-frequent-churchgoers-most-supportive-iraq-war.aspx

Iron man would have sided with sam

@@aabilmasih9820 sam harris and bill maher are intellectuals?

ISLAM Is the best..

@@adibedor-mh9kl Yes. Best at protecting pedophiles.

​@@wokemorty727 Sam has a PhD in neuroscience and u think he isn't an intellectual? Interesting...

Of Sam Harris and Bill Maher right?

No, Affleck claimed Sam Harris made an argument that he did not. That’s why it’s so hard to follow the argument after he joins in. They’re talking about different things. Sam Harris had to bridge the gap in the logical chasm. I think he did it pretty well. I don’t think Bill Maher helped that much. He always assumes everyone’s on the same page as him.

Affleck is a tool.

I doubt people fully comprehend the "strawman" argument

@@thekaiser1156 What's the strawman that Sam made?

A good definition is that a race is something you cannot decide to be part of or leave. But wait, most muslims can't leave islam because of the threat of capital punishment, so I guess they are a race after all. Maybe I should point out just in case that the latter was a joke.

@@tomasp3394 Did you read the entire comment? I said it was a joke.

@@hakarva2584 No, it just makes you a bigot.

Islam - African/Arabian Judaism and Christianity - European/White Constantly attacks Islam and not the other 2 and says Islam is not a race to seem not racist. You racists are getting dumber everyday

@@zub41r75 Holy shit your comment is ignorant

Lol !

I watched it in the expectation that they would let sam make his point. But you are right this debate was a joke. Or more like Affleck is a joke, he had no business being there.

Lol I wish I could hit the like button many times

Matt Kamar qq

Poor Sam Harris has been chickening out from debating Mohammed Hijab for long now because Hijab will retire him from his debate career! 😆

Good post!

WLC... LOL.

batfleck thinks bank balance means a higher IQ

sam harris thinks a lack of proof of god is evidence of a lack of god. burden of proof goes to whomever lays claim. a-theist = NO GOD!!! literally, etymologically. that's their PHANTOM BULLSHIT line in the sand. yet, there is zero proof that god does not exist. so.. ... so much for the IQ of sam harris (and all self-proclaimed a-/theists for that matter) ...nnnnnnnnnnnnnext!

Movie Jimmy 777 we all do respect if you were to ask that question we can go on and on about who created the bigger God and so fourth. Or we can accept that our God is eternal. The alpha and omega the beginning and end. On the other note I respect Sam Harris he is an intelligent human being and gets down to the root of everything. As for his theory of Gods non-existence it is only a theory of course have you looked at the bible how many facts, astrological facts and historical facts.

AfghanHearts sure bro

@@AfghanHearts So if someone hits you, it's okay to just hit them back? That's the correct response in our society today?

Afghan, A+ trolling. I mean you’re a fkn idiot. But still, good trolling

AfghanHearts ok. But they are there now, right?

Dave Studdaman i wasn't "trolling". i said the truth you loser

for real, he made a fool of himself

+mr7wi --- Ben Ben looked like he was going to cry. Poor Ben Ben...

fuck u

Khaoula Manser Really? Weak troll is weak.

Khaoula Manser Be quiet. Adults are talking.

Are you incapable of comprehending that there might be nuance to the idea of freedom for anything? Like maybe we draw the line for freedom at when you cut peoples heads off in public for having opinions you don't like, or because of their religion or sexuality or political affiliation being different? I don't really understand how people defend Islam as if it's not an objectively more violent and oppressive religion than whatever the rest of the world practices. You should study a bit of history too, it's not necessarily new. Not saying Christian societies haven't imperialized the world and committed genocides etc, but it wasn't religious doctrine to do so. When the muslim world took over large swathes of western civilization a thousand years ago, they treated all non-muslims like animals. They've always been intolerant barbarians. The world is a worse place because of them.

Most religions, especially Islam, is about as far from 'liberal ideas' as you can get.

Good lord are you having cognitive difficulties? How many times do they have to say that they're condemning the extremely illiberal things in the religion, like the violent subjugation of women, the violent persecution of LGBTQ people, the violent punishment for engaging in free speech, etc.? These things are in Christianity but presently, in part due to the religious doctrines used to guide followers, they are much less extreme. And these same people are critical of these things in all religions, including Christianity. But you are a flat out liar if you try to claim that Islam isn't worse currently in leading to theocracies that implement these terrible things. And it's in good part because the doctrine itself is more extreme and violent.

It's not on topic but I learned about *that* turn of phrase about 12 years ago. And you're absolutely right! Someone used that phrase against me once and it was an "A ha!" moment. I'm about have my words twisted. The person outranked me so I couldn't really say anything back but it was an awesome datapoint, nonetheless!

Just once I'd like to hear someone respond to that with "No that's not what I'm saying" and throw the ball back in the challengers' court.

@Lion of Islam: سيد Umar That's an impressive amount of projection in such a short span.

@Lion of Islam: سيد Umar What are you assuming I think of Islam? And what in my comment made you believe that?

@Lion of Islam: سيد Umar and I'm asking what you think those misconceptions are. Because I haven't made any comments about Islam this entire thread.

Someone who focuses on the physical actions of the debater rather than the arguments they put forth is the attribute of someone that doesn't know how to judge a debate.

Someone who focuses on what someone else focuses on to determine their debating is someone who doesnt know what the f they are talking about

Barkeroni bad comeback man.

aww

I am confused, are you actually defending the Batman here?

This made me spit my milk. Damn you.

LOL

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hate to explain punchlines, but It’s a play on words, since Sam Harris is known to look very similar to Ben Stiller, in an argument with Ben Affleck. I was referring to Ben stiller

He needs writers.

@Weenddata Segda Yes, why?

@@jsmall10671 he didn't ask you idiot

oh and yours is? laughable

@@momenkhan8838 well I don’t have a doctrine, so….

@@gargrig222 oh great, so then you have no room to make fun of others beliefs if you don’t have any to stand on for yourself. Atheist always manage to beat themselves.

@nabil chowdhury too bad the Qur'an is the literal word of god

@nabil chowdhury I can't tell if this is satire but if its not then I guess you need to stop proving yourself wrong by literally proving the comment you replied to absolutely correct.

Amen!! When you see the son of men coming down from heaven you will know he is lord

@nabil chowdhury for the 20% thing, i think sam is referring to shia muslims which are the bad ones. sunnis represent the rest

@nabil chowdhury I can see where you are coming from people completely overlook the Good qualities of this culture brotherhood,hospitality e.t.c but you are not naive enough to think that jihadists are just blood thirsty maniacs .....whatever they are they are also passionate about Islam you can say these 20% have interpreted it wrongly but don't say they are fake or they don't believe ...we can do better ...we can all agree that the study and CRITIQUE of the quran/Islam is not encouraged enough

Hilarious!

@@agtwolf6030 So his logic is too powerful for you to handle? Interesting.

Bill mahar: "my boyz wicked smaht" Sam Harris: "how you like dem apples"

lmao

OH SHIT!

+Taxtro Well, of course. The Catholic Church is a Christian institution still dominated mainly by white people from Europe and North America, with currently the first Pope from South America - but he's an Italian expatriate. What's crucial about understanding these people is that they use the 'progressive stack' method of validating or invalidating opinions. They make distinctions in every attribute a person has (ironically, that makes them incredible racists and sexists), and they side with whoever they deem more oppressed. Muslims are in a unique position in this system: they come down heavily on women, homosexuals, apostates and so forth, but they are almost always non-white and are also a non-Christian minority, which puts them right at the top of the 'progressive stack'. Thus, they are 'to be protected'.

+Vulpes Inculta For the Legion.

+Taxtro Dude the film had a rubber poop monster. Like, what the fuck are you even talking about?

APJinks That Ben Affleck had absolutely no problems in offending the Catholic Church in the worst way possible.

Taxtro Its got a rubber poop monster man. You are ridiculous to take it so seriously.

Just fyi the apostacy laws in pakistan were created by the british colonial empire not by muslims. Good to know and yes they should get rod of them.

Salman Taseer is the name of the guy who was killed.

@@yusufmuslim4420 Partition and the formation of Pakistan occurred on 15 August 1947 CE. ' For the Prophet said"If someone discards his religion , kill him" ' Comes from Sahih al Burkhari Hadith 4:52:260 Written Circa 846 C.E. Go figure!

@@yusufmuslim4420 The inclusion of Sharia occurred under General Muhammed Zia ul Haq Who took over the Government through martial law in 1977. He then ran Pakistan until 1988 and was responsible for implementing the Federal Shariat Court. Why do I have to point out this to you when opening a history book and reading it for ten minutes would have stopped you saying such foolish things?

​@@timmonapier8832 False. "The offences relating to religion were first codified by India's British rulers in 1860, and were expanded in 1927. Pakistan inherited these laws when it came into existence after the partition of India in 1947." You are conflating "sharia" from specific apostasy laws. They are not one the same. Also you missed the part where I said I was strongly against apostasy laws anywhere in the world. Muslim majority countries are post colonial construct nation states which are relatively newer in their development. The reality is that the Western Empires were doing the colonization and the majority of the Muslim world just got their independence from years of enslavement, genocide, and oppression less than a century ago. Just like it took the USA hundreds of years to end slavery and they are yet still working on racism it will take Muslim majority countries many many years to come to fruition.

Muslims sign his cheques?

@@bigbowlowrong4694Libtards.

Muslims? In hollywood? You gotta me kidding me

+kopolojoyono No wonder he said okay to that BvS Script.

+Bobddd Dubixxlina Lol

+kopolojoyono Ben affleck is a white guilt riddled man. look up that video about him trying to pressure a company to hide the fact that he had slave ancestors

+kopolojoyono He gets agitated and loses the ability to argue. An ability he otherwise would have had if it were not for his little sphere of Hollywood celebrities cirklejerking their opinions rendering him unable to face different opinions. Most people are like that, honestly.

+kopolojoyono cocaine is my guess

It’s funny because Batman didn’t need to do anything. Sam reveals who he is pretty clearly.

@@jimmypecan9371 Hey hate to break it to you but they’re talking about a religion not a race lol edit: Ben can’t even get his “ists” right

@@q1908 Hate to break it to you, but racists and islamophobes care very little about that distinction.

@@jimmypecan9371 Are you calling sam a racist? I needed to double check because that would be absolutely ridiculous.

@@hrothgr52 i’m calling him an islamophobe. But my point is that it comes from the same mode of thinking about other people and about oneself that enables racism.

Point Your head

GMOATILLIATA they are all the same in a way that they all believe in a fairy tale ghost god. They all follow a pedophile murderer.

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