Nissan Leaf Motor Bench Test Spinning the Motor - Thunderstruck VCU

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I spin up the Nissan Leaf motor in a bench test using the Thunderstruck Motors VCU. I didn't even have a battery to do it! 300mpg.org
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The Thunderstruck Vehicle Control Unit is a device that replaces the car's electronic components that send appropriate signals to the inverter to properly run the motor. This allows you to connect a different battery, throttle, and gear selector to the motor than what would have been in a Nissan Leaf.
This was my first real testing with this setup. At this point, I was still having an issue with the throttle and needed to change some software settings to get it correct. The motor was also NOT performing regenerative braking, due to the fact that it was powered by a source which could not "re-absorb" the energy. (It was only a one-way path from AC to DC with the rectifier.)
The next video covers software adjustments and regenerative braking.
00:00 Intro
1:55 Liquid Cooling Overview
3:39 Close up look at wiring to VCU
6:13 Wiring connections on back of Inverter - CAN wires, etc.
9:14 Battery Pack voltage too low!
10:41 Can I run it from AC instead? Bridge Rectifier.
13:09 Spinning the motor for the first time
14:49 Spinning a Clutch Disc
15:25 Spinning the Original Leaf Gearbox input shaft
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 225
@Tech_1587
@Tech_1587 3 роки тому
Ben, good simple bench test! There are many things this motor could be used for.
@patricksellhorn6518
@patricksellhorn6518 3 роки тому
waoo.. nicebench test.. i like it!
@turbo2ltr
@turbo2ltr 3 роки тому
Nice work. Brave to use unfiltered rectified AC. I had Leaf VIN 155 back in 2011 and was probably the first that decoded most of the CAN messages. There is a CAN Messages spreadsheet out there that was based off my original spreadsheet I shared with the community. To this day I still get access requests on my original google doc..
@SirTragain
@SirTragain 3 роки тому
Glad to see an update on your project Ben.
@philippaoo
@philippaoo 3 роки тому
Hi Ben, Thanks for that video again. I am watching your channel once in a while and that is so relaxing and informative - in contrast to millions of useless videos on YT. Please Go on for very very long! :)
@TheAnachronist
@TheAnachronist Рік тому
I love that you were able to cobble together DC power like you did with just a rectifier and 240VAC with no battery or even a capacitor. This is awesome.
@Good-Enuff-Garage
@Good-Enuff-Garage 2 роки тому
excellent video, simple no thrills but very effective, thank you so much for taking the time to learn us
@AndreR241
@AndreR241 3 роки тому
Thank you for this nice presentation. I always find it a bit cute how much you Americans enjoy having a 220 V outlet. Here in Europe you have three-phase AC with 400 V in every apartment or house (3 x 230 V, 120° phase shifted, usually with at least 64 A per phase).
@ChimeraActual
@ChimeraActual 3 роки тому
Yeah, I'm jelious. We do have 240 to our houses, but it's "1" phase. Would have cost me ~$20,000 to get three phase. Never mind China is building good cheap VFD's.
@peteowens3033
@peteowens3033 8 місяців тому
Great! i bought a 2019 LEAF a few months ago. Nice to see what is actually going on behind the scenes with it.
@samnile2
@samnile2 3 роки тому
Hi Ben Very clear explained as usual Thanks
@Hi_Its_Alice
@Hi_Its_Alice Місяць тому
I am looking for a Leaf too. Great project demo :) Keep up the good work!
@SHADOW-bg4mm
@SHADOW-bg4mm 3 роки тому
Great video! Was wondering about this motor, i hear it all the time
@jjsantala
@jjsantala 3 роки тому
Nice video series!
@kenboo4
@kenboo4 3 роки тому
Absolutely fascinating !!
@aomanchutube
@aomanchutube 3 роки тому
Oh this was good Ben!
@helianthropy
@helianthropy 3 роки тому
Love the little shield bug (?) on the motor toward the end. :)
@ericnelson4540
@ericnelson4540 3 роки тому
He's just there making sure all safety procedures are being followed.
@motorv8N
@motorv8N 3 місяці тому
Just discovered your channel. I have a ‘49 Jeep that would be fun to convert to electric one day. For now I’m really enjoying just understanding what the major components on an EV are, what they look like disassembled and how they work. (I also have a MiniCooper EV with an incomprehensible engine bay full of EV goodness. Now I can begin to see what it all is) thanks again!
@chanakamapatuna1456
@chanakamapatuna1456 Рік тому
Wow....Great work & explanation Sir...!
@coolfrost6
@coolfrost6 3 роки тому
Impressive that the inverter accepted that kind of "Dirty DC" voltage, But a good way to illustrate the opperation. Maybe it would be a idea to add a Motor Start Capacitor, just to smoothen out the voltage a bit. But then again it was just for testing and it clearly worked.
@kschleic9053
@kschleic9053 3 роки тому
The inverter has a large DC bus capacitor built in for soaking up transients, it is probably doing a fine job of smoothing out the input voltage.
@PedroDomingos
@PedroDomingos 3 роки тому
My thought was exactly the same! I did know the inverter had input capacitors to average that rectified AC current
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 3 роки тому
That bas a Range extenderodes well for people wanting to run a generator as a Range extender, bypassing the onboard Charger completely!
@franciscoshi1968
@franciscoshi1968 3 роки тому
The bus capacitor is very small. You really need to put a bigger capacitor. Another problem is there is nowhere for any regenerated energy to go. So if You Try to use the motor to slow down the bus voltage will go up and you could blow the inverter up.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
The Thunderstruck VCU allows you to set a maximum regen voltage. That protects against overcharging the batteries from regenerative braking.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 7 місяців тому
Hey Benjamin, I've just watched this video again. It's awesome to see the engineering contained within the Leaf. I bought a used Leaf (one of the first Japanese models 2011) which has been imported to the UK and the car is amazing. My interest in Leaf's is in putting one in a boat. The electric motor conversions that many boat owners install, have really expensive outboards that are tiny compared to the Leaf's. Also the number of spare parts from used Leaf's mean that having spares available is not cost prohibitive. The Thunderstruck kit is awesome.
@TreDeuce-qw3kv
@TreDeuce-qw3kv 4 місяці тому
Replacing the Diesel auxiliary in my sailboat is also what I would like to do besides putting one in my Miata. 20-years ago we electrified a new 24-ft river launch with off the shelf parts. It was a learning curve and several expensive parts were lost before we managed to get it right. It has been cruising the river for 20-years now with only a battery pack upgrade since.
@dorhocyn3
@dorhocyn3 3 роки тому
Dr. Frankenstein , you’re monster is alive.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 2 роки тому
Brilliant Benjamin.
@light12a
@light12a 3 роки тому
Ben, do you recommend keeping the OEM charger for an EV conversion? If not, is there a better charger you recommend? Thank you so much for posting this! I think my dream of an electric Porsche speedster could be made from the Leaf EV components plus the drivetrain, brake, suspension, etc.. and a Thunderstruck. What a time we live in!
@jpl9148
@jpl9148 3 роки тому
Time to take a look to the open inverter project
@-allround-
@-allround- 3 роки тому
Love that wooden heatsink on the bridge rectifier !
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Ha, yeah, well I figured I'd be drawing low current and wood is non-conductive. I mostly wanted to drive a screw through it to keep it from tipping over!
@KiwiEVadventures
@KiwiEVadventures 3 роки тому
What a great video. I'm seriously considering using a Leaf drivetrain in my conversion.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
You gotta get that car home first!
@kelanbarr9646
@kelanbarr9646 3 роки тому
Leaf motors are great if you can get the batteries for a high voltage pack. Plenty of other motors+controllers to buy otherwise.
@christopherbrand5360
@christopherbrand5360 3 роки тому
If only you said: “FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!!!” like Mehdi of ElectroBoom :) This is great stuff! I can’t wait to see the tractor run with that motor. So much more power/torque than the original engine.
@LouwrensvanderMerwe
@LouwrensvanderMerwe 3 роки тому
That's cool!! Thanks for sharing.
@Canadaebay
@Canadaebay 3 роки тому
Hi Ben, great Chanel, would be interesting if you have to a video of the inverter and charger and how they hook up to a battery and house power charging
@jhonkhan8153
@jhonkhan8153 Рік тому
Unbelievable, a simple ebike throttle switch and few homemade circuit been used to power 🔋 the whole Nissan leaf motor , thanks for your Educational content 👍, for the whole army of novice
@joeabad5908
@joeabad5908 Рік тому
Thank you Ben.. You've been an insporation with your GeoMetro EV video. I plan to convert a Suzuki mini pickup to an EV. Ive got all the components from China.
@mathewndebele1960
@mathewndebele1960 3 роки тому
Yay, the leaf motor is here.
@Pervypriest
@Pervypriest 3 роки тому
Don't leaf me
@osimmac
@osimmac 3 роки тому
I really wanna use this in the stock leaf to get more direct control of the motor
@stuartmills2209
@stuartmills2209 Рік тому
Brilliant, well done Sir, can the Nissan ecu be used instead or is it complicated with alarms and other stuff? Thank you
@rillip3
@rillip3 3 роки тому
The wagon wheel effect makes it pretty impossible to tell in the video which way is which, given how fast it ramps up under 0 load. I'll take your word for it that it went an opposite way!
@gomezelectro466
@gomezelectro466 3 роки тому
MUY BUENA LA EXPLICACION GRACIAS
@grillsandaxlegrease3578
@grillsandaxlegrease3578 Рік тому
Love this material! I'm considering a Regenerative braking set-up on a running 62 Pontiac Tempest where the transmission is in the back fed by the engine speed rope drive. Perhaps a 2nd alternator/generator can add to HP keeping up with engine speed.. Just brainstorming now but is it possible to have a helper motor so to speak to the main gasoline block perhaps to offset the takeoff which is where you waste the most gas.
@rupertprice5508
@rupertprice5508 3 роки тому
I must be a bit stupid but full wave rectification of 240 Ac = over 300V dc peak . Thunderstruck vcu obviously has no problems at that voltage . Thanks for video . Prompted me to find out a bit more.
@lucifer6801
@lucifer6801 3 роки тому
Very educational
@peterbradley4916
@peterbradley4916 2 роки тому
Great info! This motor maybe suitable for my range rover P38 conversion (which is quite a heavy lump). I was going to fit dual Hyper 9's, but, they won't fit. This Leaf motor would be a lot cheaper.
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 3 роки тому
Brilliant
@Roadstercycle
@Roadstercycle 3 роки тому
Hi Benjamin. Look in the VCU code on a computer, you should see where they set the minimum voltage. You should be able to lower the minimum voltage for testing. That's what we do with the Damien McGuire setup for bench testing the Tesla motors on the bench. Just a thought. Great video by the way.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
It doesn't appear that the Thunderstruck VCU has any settings in the software for a Minimum Voltage. The only references to voltage at all in the manual are in regards to precharging and regenerative braking.
@Roadstercycle
@Roadstercycle 3 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX It was worth a shot to see anyway.
@DJSekuHusky
@DJSekuHusky 8 місяців тому
TIL the EM57 has remarkably similar output power to the KA24DE found in the Xterra and Frontier/ The revised EM does 148HP and 240Lb/Ft, whereas the KA does 148HP and 156Lb/Ft. The question now becomes does the added mass of batteries make it drive worse, or does the higher torque value still make it quicker?
@akheradmandi
@akheradmandi 2 роки тому
Hey Mr Nelson, Your videos are great. I have a couple questions on this set-up. Specifically in reference to rpm and as a hybrid with an ice. Anyway to take a few minutes of your time for correspondence? Ill gladly donate to the cause. Thanks!
@cowboy4309
@cowboy4309 8 місяців тому
Can’t wait till the flux capacitor comes out!
@Roadstercycle
@Roadstercycle 3 роки тому
Hi Ben, Do you think the rectifier setup would work the same with a Tesla setup for testing? I have a Tesla motor setup ready to go I just have not found the batteries yet.
@carlosfranchi5043
@carlosfranchi5043 2 роки тому
Superb
@billbitner9142
@billbitner9142 3 роки тому
Nice! The minimum voltage on the newer (2013-2017?) inverters is 240 volts. I just saw your next video, where you spun the motor using a lower voltage. Mine wouldn't do that, so my guess is there is a software/firmware difference between years. The nissan leaf manuals states the 240 volt low voltage error in one of their diagnostic codes. This means 72, 3.6 volts cells will run this motor, you may want the original 96. For those curious, it is possible to use an arduino or raspberry pi with a CAN module to talk with these motors.
@billbitner9142
@billbitner9142 3 роки тому
The motor will also fault if over 400 volts is applied, or you regen too hard and the power supply can't absorb/use the power.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Hey Bill, do you have a link to a project or video showing somebody connecting to it over CAN with an Arduino or Pi? I think we'd all love to learn more about it. Also, when you say the motor will fault over 400V, do you mean the motor, the inverter, a Thunderstruck VCU, or some other original component in a Leaf? I am curious because depending on WHICH component it is, that may still mean that the MOTOR or INVERTER will run just fine over 400VDC.
@billbitner9142
@billbitner9142 3 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX bbitnerblogs.com/e-miata for seeing the video of me running it via a raspberry pi. www.bbitnerblogs.com/e-miata/archives/04-2020 The high voltage fault is in the inverter, so the stock inverter won't run over 400 volts unless you install openinverter /EVBMW vcu. The bus capacitors are rated for 600 volts, so probably not too much higher than 400 volts,.. ;)
@marooned-5
@marooned-5 Місяць тому
Hello Benjamin! Nice work. it really helped me with my budget ev plans and a simpler and less complexed solution as compared to open source and resolve ev solutions. Could you please tell me it this could work with nissan e power inverter as well? actually i cant find leaf parts here in Pakistan as leaf has just got here but note e power are in significant number and the parts are coming in too. cant find much of the content on e power inverters but thought i should ask you if you ever came across any of those too. Thank you in advance.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX Місяць тому
Sorry, I am not familiar with e-power inverters.
@poppysprojects6725
@poppysprojects6725 Рік тому
Hi Ben , new subscriber, love your videos, I dont see much on social media about using the charger from the Leaf. Doing a marine conversion and would like to use the complete Leaf system ( batteries, motor, inverter, and charger. Any Thoughts, thanks Tim.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX Рік тому
Sounds like a great project! I do NOT have any experience using the Leaf charger, so I don't have any advice on that. I DO know a guy who gutted a Leaf, and used the ENTIRE motor/charger/battery, etc. etc. in a cool-looking old kit car. It seemed to work well for him, but he did get frustrated at some points because of the wiring. If you want to gut an entire Leaf, make sure to properly label EVERY wire connector so that you can more easily reuse all the parts in another project.
@TheTimSargent
@TheTimSargent 2 роки тому
Hey there! Love your vids… I’m a systems technologist for an electric power train startup company…. Was just curious… how did you acquire the PID’s for the motor controller and the BMS for all of this stuff to communicate on the CANbus?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
All the magic of communications was taken care of by the Thunderstruck VCU. www.thunderstruck-ev.com/dilithium-vcu.html
@JV-fu8br
@JV-fu8br 3 роки тому
the cucaracha living in the motor finally came out at 15:05
@neliosamch3195
@neliosamch3195 3 роки тому
Ben, Can you connect in serie the motorcycle batteries for the 300 volts? This is very interesting for those who are waiting for a cheaper alternative to convert their diesel engine sailboat to an electric drive motor. My GTIL are working very good. The limiters do not let the inverter export excess of power, everything goes into 16S 280ah for night time and the bill is coming down a lot.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
The batteries in my motorcycle already ARE hooked up in series! In the next video, I add some more to get to an appropriate voltage to power the Leaf inverter.
@aviator5177
@aviator5177 2 роки тому
Hi Ben, would you recommend any charger for this system to charge the batteries.?
@high1voltage1rules
@high1voltage1rules 2 роки тому
GREAT VIDEO BUDDY” “BUT” You definitely need to make your wires safe! Those croc connectors you have on you bridge rectifier are only rated each at best 3Amps. And when you have full spun up this AC motor there will be a very big rush of current easy pulling 8kw or more! and your bridge rectifier will be getting warm or hot ( needs a heat sink! For constant use!)and to be Honest the dc from the Ac will be noisy and could do with smoothing! Using capacitors and a couple of inductors. There will be a lot of inductance noise through your setup as you have thin wires and investors don’t like this! If you had this going through an OSCILLOSCOPE you would see the noise coming through on the graph! This setup you have could damage your controller for the circuit. Your setup works well. But my friend you seriously need to use the correct wires and connectors being all the same!😉👍 Best of luck! Please be safe. Great video 👍👍👍👍👍THUMBS UP👍👍👍👍👍
@operator8014
@operator8014 3 роки тому
Gotta build a scooter with that motor now. Would be freaking SICK!
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Well, it's over 100HP. The challenge with a scooter would be to fit a battery pack which is high enough voltage. My Vectrix electric super-scooter runs an AC motor and fits 18 Nissan Leaf cell modules right down the middle for a little less than 150V when charged. Search VECTRIX on this youtube channel for more on that project.
@johnqualmann
@johnqualmann 2 роки тому
From about 14:50 for the next minute or so, I can see that you have a little helper (seen near the upper left hand corner of the screen) keeping a close eye on things.
@kschleic9053
@kschleic9053 3 роки тому
I love the bridge rectifier heatsinked to a block of flammable wood:)
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
😄Ha! I was more interested in keeping the bridge rectifier from tipping over with all the wires sticking out of it! I figured a screw into a piece of wood fixed that!
@FrankGraffagnino
@FrankGraffagnino Рік тому
where do you hook up the wires for the "motor temperature sensor"? My EM57 motor didn't come with the black wire harness unfortunately so I will need to make those connections manually :( any ideas? I'm not even sure where that sensor is located.
@SheepShearerMike
@SheepShearerMike 3 роки тому
Do to see you are now mentally in a place you can carry on with this project Ben. Have you solved how to drive the PTO? I would think you could use the standard gearbox with double clutch, most of the time leave it in gear then use the forward and reverse switch so you don't need to clutch. Then if you do need the PTO, you will have to use the clutch as before. Also, are you going for the electric hydraulic pump?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Driving the hydraulic pump is still a bit of a puzzle. If the Leaf motor had a tail-shaft, I'd just attach the stock pump there. Electric pumps draw a lot of current, and I'd need a really good-sized DC/DC converter to run that. At this point, the easiest route to go would be to use a PTO-powered hydraulic pump. I think I'm just going to get all the drive system worked out first, and THEN worry about the hydraulics.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
I intend to re-use the original tractor transmission with the double-clutch.
@victorpathen2607
@victorpathen2607 2 роки тому
Great stuff Thinking in terms of 27’sailboat Sources to get this engine ? Thunderstruck ? Salvage ?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
There's plenty of these motors available through salvage yards. You'll need some way to control the motor, which can be the Thunderstruck VCU.
@blackterminal
@blackterminal Рік тому
Hi Ben what is the minimum voltage this will inverter will work on?
@2stroketurbo
@2stroketurbo Рік тому
nice
@Angelum_Band
@Angelum_Band 2 роки тому
Hi I wonder if you can give me some feedback regarding the EVTV GEVCU compared to the Thunderstruck version. I have a UQM Powerphase 145 that came paired with a DD45 controller that I am trying to spin. I will make a video of the process if I get to spin.
@selrahc2061
@selrahc2061 8 місяців тому
The cost if those motor is certainly inexpensive. I would have to use two through a combiner for my application though that gearbox might work as a combiner.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 8 місяців тому
What kind of a project might you use Leaf motors for?
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 2 роки тому
If I used the original Nissan Leaf battery along with the inverter and motor in a boat application, could I actually put charge in via the car charger while it was running? I could provide the Leaf's battery with charge from a 10kW solar panel deck via an inverter provides 240V AC (to simulate the car being plugged in at home).
@countteddy
@countteddy Рік тому
i know ive asked before Ben,will the thunderstruck vcu run a gen 3 prius inverter ? (meiden motor )
@jappietoutou
@jappietoutou 2 роки тому
How many version of motors are there ? which years should I be looking for a easy conversion ? ? Thank you
@dboekel
@dboekel 3 роки тому
Hi Benjamin, have you noticed difference between fwd and rev? I'm asking this because I want to know if this setup works for a boat (where reverse needs the same power / rpm as forward)
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Looks like power is the same in both directions.
@dboekel
@dboekel 3 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX Thanks!
@_a.z
@_a.z 3 роки тому
No reservoir capacitor on the DC? Rough DC ain't good! I love the whole bodge though! Great work!
@power-max
@power-max 2 роки тому
The addition of a precharge resistor suggests the motor controller already has a large bank of capacitors in it, as-is typical with such units.
@_a.z
@_a.z 2 роки тому
@@power-max Yep and there's no significant load.
@kanemcvicar1108
@kanemcvicar1108 2 місяці тому
It would be 3 phase AC power cinnecting to rhe motor , dc input into the inverter
@independenthqusa4170
@independenthqusa4170 3 роки тому
Nice Ben thanks for sharing. What is a fair price fot the motor setup?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Prices vary a bit, but I've found just the motor by itself for $500. About the same price for the transmission. www.car-part.com/ is always a good place to go for junk yard searches.
@tonyblackie3277
@tonyblackie3277 3 роки тому
Hi, saw someone try and 156v was minimum to spin Leaf motor. Not sure of amps etc. Someone tried 150v - no go - just a few more and away :)
@floridacoder
@floridacoder Рік тому
How much did you spend at the salvage yard? For the ECU?
@The4thLabo
@The4thLabo 3 роки тому
hi Ben! Thank you for very cool video. I have been looking for How to work Leaf motor , so it was very helpful. Btw, although I have latest gen LEAF motor , Thunder Struck Motors's VCU wouldn't work with latest gen. If you know a VCU for latest gen LEAF, then Please tell me the store that handles the product.
@videolaudia
@videolaudia 2 роки тому
Hi Ben, nice vid. we wanna swap it in an citroen DS. does the motor turn in both directions in same force + rev?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
Yes, it spins either direction just fine. If you needed to swap which was "Forwards" vs "Reverse", that should be no problem.
@countteddy
@countteddy 3 роки тому
Hi Ben , is the thunderstruck ECU a generic controller ?, ive got some ex IMIEV/PHEV meiden motors and wonder if that would run those ?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
The VCU with run Nissan Leaf, UQM or Coda Motors.
@star01248
@star01248 Рік тому
Ben just found your videos, And it’s leading me to follow a project I’m interested in. Can these motors be connected to a mercruser I/O to replace a 5.7L engine. With the current cost of gasoline the boat is to expensive to run ! At ~ 10 gallons per hour . Please provide a comment
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX Рік тому
I'm not a boat guy, but YES, you certainly could replace a boat gas engine with an electric motor and batteries. I think the main challenge would just be to figure out what your rate of power would be and to have a battery capacity that matches what you would want for a run time.
@rescuecow90
@rescuecow90 Рік тому
What rpm does the motor max at?
@ChimeraActual
@ChimeraActual 3 роки тому
First to admit I know little about EV motors, still, I have some questions. You said it's a three phase motor. Is it a permanent magnet three phase induction motor? If so why can't you run it off a VFD? Seems simpler than turning 2 ph into DC, then back to 3 ph as long as it's not running around on the street. How many poles? Hp? Frequency range? AC Voltage? RPM? Why am I'm asking? I wonder if I can adapt it to my lathe or Bridgeport. That would be fun!
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
It is a permanent magnet AC motor and the inverter here IS a Variable Frequency Drive! I simply ran this off of AC, because I didn't have a high enough voltage battery pack at the time that I shot this video. I got the idea because a friend of mine has plenty of experience with industrial motor controllers. A number of years back, he converted a Dodge Neon to electric, using off-the-shelf industrial parts. The variable frequency drive that he used for the car could run off AC or DC. He essentially just mounted it in the car and ran it off batteries. ukposts.info/slow/PL47D94695998158F6
@vitaliyyavtukhovskyi5947
@vitaliyyavtukhovskyi5947 3 роки тому
Hi Ben. Why is the motor spinning at a constant speed even after the throttle returns to 0 position?? I did not expect that one... And then to stop the motor you have to turn off the power supply? Again, why doesn't it just come to a stop when throttle is released? Thanks in advance!
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Hi Vitaliy, I still needed to fine tune the throttle settings in the software.
@alibro7512
@alibro7512 3 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX The motor needs a load to pull the speed back down. I had the same issue with my Gen1 leaf motor with an EVBMW VCM. I had to bolt on the Leaf Transmission to get it to work correctly and even then it only just slowed down. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/a32SjHyBe61-t30.html
@tstlavceoceo7066
@tstlavceoceo7066 2 роки тому
I have a 2wheel drive pathfinder and thinking of incorporation a 4wd front diff and driveshaft. Do you think this hybrid setup could work with reasonable benefits.
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
A transfer case would certainly be one way to add an electric motor into a gas vehicle. "Reasonable benefits" depends exactly on what you expect. Seems like a lot of work if you are just going to get a little better fuel economy. On the other hand, if it's a plug-in hybrid, and you can drive the vehicle completely on electric for some reasonable distance, that sounds pretty good. I think that the most efficient way to build a DIY Hybrid would probably be to have a transverse-mount dedicated gas engine directly on one axle, and a dedicated EV system driving the other axle.
@mdfarizal
@mdfarizal 3 роки тому
What is the exact DC output form the bridge rectifier? 240v ac with 60-70% efficiency it will about 140 to 170 VDC. If you have multimeter that can handle this DC range.
@ShawnGuertin
@ShawnGuertin 3 роки тому
That can be found with maths: 240VAC*√2=339.41VDC - (0.7V*2) for the diodes = approx 338VDC pulsed ON/OFF 120 times per seconds.
@timeaftertime3563
@timeaftertime3563 2 роки тому
Does anyone know if this also works on a Ford Focus motor? I can buy a complete Focus with a busted TCM.
@larsandersen5505
@larsandersen5505 3 роки тому
It’s not a bridge rectifier it’s a FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER 😉
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Even better!
@ShawnGuertin
@ShawnGuertin 3 роки тому
AVE would even call this a rectum-fryer
@AndreR241
@AndreR241 3 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX You don't know the channel @ElectroBOOM, right?
@SuperDimeguy
@SuperDimeguy Рік тому
I really want to understand this because I want to convert my Datsun 410 to electric. Electrical stuff always goes over my head though
@2point2
@2point2 2 роки тому
Did you ground the 12volt (-) to the case of the inverter\motor?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
I'd have to double-check the instructions that came with the Thunderstruck VCU. There's a number of wires on the harness, but most of them go to either 12V+ or 12V-ground, so I'm pretty sure one of the wires on there somewhere is just straight to the frame/body/casting of the motor and connected equipment.
@kantorobo7718
@kantorobo7718 3 роки тому
i guess it's time to build a new project :)
@portugal1969
@portugal1969 6 місяців тому
Do you think it could be run on a generator
@TheAnthonyBrandi
@TheAnthonyBrandi 16 днів тому
he actually swollowed that water too. dang
@jaroslavstava3704
@jaroslavstava3704 3 роки тому
The AC connection seems dodgy to me. I'd consider adding grounding to the motor and perhaps put an RCD + fuse/breaker in there.
@user-xj9fm5nf9u
@user-xj9fm5nf9u 2 роки тому
How much mony did you paid for it?
@portugal1969
@portugal1969 8 місяців тому
I've got a van I want to put a leaf in, so to speak, complicated but its rotting away because of Ulez, a uk pollution thing
@gacherumburu9958
@gacherumburu9958 3 роки тому
👍
@racingfortheson
@racingfortheson 3 роки тому
How many amps would that motor pull when running the full car down the road?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Depends how hard the car is working. The motor will pull much higher current accelerating or going up a big hill than it will going downhill with the wind at your back. Looks like the Leaf e+ has a peak power of about 100kW. At 360V, that's around 280 amps. Just typical driving is going to be much lower than that.
@jrcarr5507
@jrcarr5507 3 роки тому
Will that little black box work with Fisker Karma inverter and motors?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
Specs are listed right on Thunderstruck's page: www.thunderstruck-ev.com/dilithium-vcu.html This is good for Leaf, UQM, and Coda motors.
@nikoscholtz8397
@nikoscholtz8397 2 роки тому
So in an EV swap, would your on/off switch be your key ignition?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
Yes.
@trainingtheworld5093
@trainingtheworld5093 2 роки тому
Interesting video however I don't think its a good idea to spin ball bearings on the shaft like that. Those things will fly out like bullets if that bearing lets go.
@elektrokinesis4150
@elektrokinesis4150 3 роки тому
you really need some big capacitors on that ac feed
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 3 роки тому
The inverter already has plenty of big capacitors inside it.
@surplusstock8778
@surplusstock8778 2 роки тому
i want to use two of these on a yacht conversion.only looking to cruise at 7 knots.Any thoughts?
@BenjaminNelsonX
@BenjaminNelsonX 2 роки тому
I think it would be a GREAT motor for a boat! On a vessel with sail AND motor, it could also be used to regeneratively charge the battery via the propeller while under sail!
@surplusstock8778
@surplusstock8778 2 роки тому
@@BenjaminNelsonX The boat isnt equipped with sails but as its 72ft it has a large surface area for solar.I bought the boat without engines for a giveaway price.I wanted to retrofit my boat similar to the new silent 60.They use 2*50kw motors,201kw battery pack and 15Kwp of solar.At 7 knots in sunny conditions it will run off solar alone with a diesel generator for backup in bad weather.
@matthandy7039
@matthandy7039 8 місяців тому
Don’t know what your driveline plans are, you’ll need a harmonic balancer though otherwise it’ll drive lurchy But you probably already knew that
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