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Dala's EV Repair

Dala's EV Repair

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For more info on how to connect a LEAF battery to a BYD compatible inverter: github.com/dalathegreat/Batte...
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@mwahlgreen
@mwahlgreen 11 місяців тому
Very nice. Remember to protect the wire reduction with a fuse at the point where you have the reduction
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Good idea, I will note down that a suitable DC fuse should be added. The fuse inside the battery is too large (250A).
@Aurelian0610
@Aurelian0610 11 місяців тому
well if you follow the wire size path, you should maybe go with a 40 A fuse , or max 60 A, recommend would be 50 A
@wasserdrucker6227
@wasserdrucker6227 11 місяців тому
I think it is not necessary, because the converter has its limit and will not overload the wire in any case. And if there is a short, even the bigger fuse inside the battery will blow.
@11mroscar
@11mroscar 11 місяців тому
True was literally gonna say that lol!!! Kinda dangerous without and probs best to use black and red just makes life a bit easier!!
@stertheder
@stertheder 11 місяців тому
@@wasserdrucker6227 The wire run is too long to fit under the tap rule, and you’re a brave soul to trust “The inverter wont overload under any situation” The National Electric Code isn’t concerned with what that inverter is designed to do. Its concerned with what happens to that wire when something goes wrong. 250A fuse protecting 50A wire? Thats just asking for trouble. When you already have a junction box a 50A fuse is cheap insurance.
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything 11 місяців тому
Pretty awesome man! Nice work!
@buckmanriver
@buckmanriver 11 місяців тому
Jerry, Please consider cloning this setup and doing a deep dive series on your channel.
@vedranart
@vedranart 11 місяців тому
@@buckmanriver but with Tesla batteries :D
@knalltutemichl3473
@knalltutemichl3473 11 місяців тому
Jerry will come visit to charge with his hummer some day :)
@ClosestNearUtopia
@ClosestNearUtopia 10 місяців тому
Look who’s here!🎉
@TheBlairHouseProject
@TheBlairHouseProject 4 місяці тому
I just paid entirely too much for an offgrid solar setup last year with a 20kWh pack that doesn't last at all long. Zack/Dala: Would love to see a step by step build on your youtube channel sourcing a cheap used larger capacity/ tesla battery and have it set up to charge from the panels primarily with a power company charger as backup. Not looking to power the grid.. just looking to be as energy independent as possible.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 2 місяці тому
That's awesome. If your house is well insulated and don't live in a mansion, some version of this is probably all you need. Brilliant.
@energieundhobby
@energieundhobby 8 місяців тому
That's a very great idea for old ev batteries. Kudos to the programmer, that's how open source works =)
@beartastic-ftw
@beartastic-ftw 11 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing this, its suddenly a lot more attractive to do a battery upgrade in older leafs when the old battery can be re-used as is. Much love!
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 2 місяці тому
That's a great point. Old car battery packs becoming perfectly suitable house packs, no modding necessary.
@CDNguyen59
@CDNguyen59 9 місяців тому
I start using Nissan leaf battery for my solar 48-volt system since 2014, you know what? 3 years ago, I bought 2 used Nissan leaf battery and dissembled them to built 16 - 48 volt stack battery bank and now this concept that is wonderful, I no longer need to dissemble. All I need now the inverter will work with this concept, my Growatt have few years on it, its time to looking at the replacement and new idea to get free energy from the sun, my current system is 2 Growatt 5k inverter, 16 Nissan leaf̣ (48volt stack), 10KA industrial transformer to convert 230V into 110V. You are right used Nissan leaf battery are not expensive like other life4 battery sell by some solar outfit
@christopherravizza4605
@christopherravizza4605 11 місяців тому
For the precharge resistor and that stuff you should use a cable, something like a 7G1.5 and terminate it inside the box, also why not use a microcontroller with a few relays for the startup sequence? One last thing, put a fuse in the junction block ~32A and maybe protect the 10 mm² HV wires a little better. Love this kind of projects, hope it keeps getting better
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Microcontroller for precharge is a great idea! Keep in mind this was just a quick test that needs to ne finalized 😁
@rabulea1987
@rabulea1987 10 місяців тому
@@DalasEVRepair you can use that LilyGo that you already have, to pull double duty, CAN to ModBus converter and the startup sequence. You just need some extra relays that can make the contacts in the right order, connected to the LilyGo. There are some relay modules already on the market for these kinds of things.
@TheBlairHouseProject
@TheBlairHouseProject 4 місяці тому
@@rabulea1987 Love that idea! Do you ever think about sharing your knowledge? I subbed to you just in case! ;-) I just paid entirely too much for an offgrid solar setup last year with a 20kWh pack that doesn't last at all long. Would love to see a step by step build on your youtube channel sourcing a cheap used tesla battery and have it set up to charge from the panels primarily with a grid charge backup. Not looking to power the grid.. just looking to be as energy independent as possible.
@backwoodsbungalow9674
@backwoodsbungalow9674 11 місяців тому
Well done, this provides an excellent second life for degraded Leaf battery pack after pack in car is upgraded. 😎 Figuring out how to make use of the Nissan electronics is so much better than spending hours dismantling a pack and then configuring a 48 volt pack. ☮️
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Absolutely agree! This is 10x faster if not more!
@markreed9853
@markreed9853 11 місяців тому
@@DalasEVRepair Do you know if the leaf battery pack could be rotated and wall mounted for people with less room to mount it like this? - or would that be a problem?
@grzegorzolszewski9062
@grzegorzolszewski9062 11 місяців тому
@@markreed9853 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bYF4k3yEmIh7yYE.html 👍👍👍
@daveyburgess
@daveyburgess 11 місяців тому
@@markreed9853 The leaf battery pack has no active cooling system - some others use coolant to control the battery temperature. Since the individual battery cells are essentially "solid state" they don't care which way up they are. there are actually walkthroughs on installing a leaf power pack in a pickup truck, upside down over the rear axle so the humps don't intrude into the bed area! Hope that helps!
@markreed9853
@markreed9853 11 місяців тому
@@daveyburgess I thought the leaf battery had air cooling and the batteries have a liquid electrolight so not solid state. I would also think as energy storage the batteries would not get as hot as not under as much strain compared to in an EV.
@wva5089
@wva5089 11 місяців тому
Awesome stuff.. Thanks Dala for contributing to the world the way you do.
@strongme80
@strongme80 9 місяців тому
Dude, I am adding you to "My Hero's" list!!! This is outstanding work! You've pretty much solved the issue I have for my enormous project!!!
@jimmyrustling7484
@jimmyrustling7484 11 місяців тому
amazing setup, Dala! Fantastic work - thank you for sharing. I'm hoping to have a similar setup in my barn one day. Thanks for the inspiration!
@gordon6029
@gordon6029 11 місяців тому
A bit more complicated than I thought but still very doable. Thank you for your work.
@580guru
@580guru 10 місяців тому
Came to your channel when I heard about your gracious offering to make your canbus/leaf battery swap open source and then saw this gem...very 😎!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
Thanks for watching!
@fernandinand
@fernandinand 11 місяців тому
Dala the GREAT! 🧙‍♂️
@evanofelipe
@evanofelipe 9 місяців тому
Thank you Dala for sharing your power storage solutions.
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 11 місяців тому
Ever since I saw the home batteries made from Leaf cells I wondered why they did not take the high voltage out and use it like you did and now with high voltage MPPT built in chargers it will be even easier. Congrats.
@georgmuse
@georgmuse 22 дні тому
But how you will charge the battery, no way to communicate between inverter and the BMS etc. This is all in one working solution
@offgridwanabe
@offgridwanabe 22 дні тому
@@georgmuse They now make high voltage inverters and chargers.
@bilymotyl7704
@bilymotyl7704 11 місяців тому
Thanks Dala, this is the kind of content I’ve subscribed for. To be able to use the car battery “as is” without messing with it, use the original BMS plus the sealed box should be really useful.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Thanks, I think so too!
@MooseOnEarth
@MooseOnEarth 11 місяців тому
The sealed box however prevents you from analysis past the original BMS or around the original BMS (e.g. with a faulty BMS) directly at cell level or PCB level. It also disallows visual inspection for problems like corrosion, humidity (think of a previously flooded pack), burns on the board, visually bloated or blown capacitors, charred or sticking contactors, and so on. Also, you cannot easily change modules and cells or the BMS board or broken contactors. It is essentially a black, sealed box. In other words: you really have to trust this BMS. Even after let's say 10 years in its first life in a car with whatever environment. And you cannot choose a favourite kind of cells or chemistry. Old Leaf LMO or NMC and Tesla-used NCA chemistry is not the best for stationary use with many cycles. Old Leaf packs are passively cooled, but with Tesla batteries or modules, you would have to add a cooling circuit if the original environment was wanted. I still like the idea as a low-cost alternative, but both sides should be considered when going this way with 2nd life EV packs.
@kevinroberts781
@kevinroberts781 11 місяців тому
​@@MooseOnEarth no cooling would be required. It's highly unlikely that a house would draw the high current that the car did. Maybe 1/10 the current used. If that.
@MooseOnEarth
@MooseOnEarth 11 місяців тому
@@kevinroberts781 In that case however you have to check, whether the original Tesla BMS can cope with the absence of TMS components. It may check, whether all expected sensors send plausible data and also check that all expected actors act upon the media they act uponand that then sensors do indicate successful operation of the actors. The original BMS is typically in direct communication with the original TMS. And now, all this communication would have to be emulated Dala and the EV hacking community will likely figure that out, but once people use such solutions, they should be aware of a mixture of Tesla routines and surrounding glue code and emulated components, that are not actually present. In other words: people are on their own. That's ok, if they are aware of it. But they better are aware of it.
@antronx7
@antronx7 11 місяців тому
Very cool stuff! Next you got to connect your Leaf direct to that inverter via DC to charge and discharge. Defeat pack to ground current leakage test module in your Leaf and you should be good to go.
@SolarTechFL
@SolarTechFL 10 місяців тому
The can board translator is the missing piece I have needed for years thank you
@damiangraek8559
@damiangraek8559 11 місяців тому
Just awesome, simple and eco-friendly way to re-use car battery. Great inspiration!
@aatossalmu1655
@aatossalmu1655 11 місяців тому
On se mestari tekemään näitä. Tuo lähestymistapa on oikea. Vähemmän purkua, vähemmän kaikkea turhaa työtä. Uusien johtojen teko on paljon helpompaa kuin akun purku. Tuolla voi säästää ostosähkössä paljon. Hyvää työtä!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Kiitos! Täys sama mieltä!
@RajGiandeep
@RajGiandeep 11 місяців тому
Excellent job on figuring this out. Been curious what to do with my Leaf when i get a Aptera to replace it.
@MatthewTaylorAu
@MatthewTaylorAu 10 місяців тому
This looks easier then I was expecting. The trick will be having a compatible inverter. Now I'm keen to see other expand on this work with demonstrations for other inverters. Thanks for posting Dala. Well done.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
I added Sungrow inverter compability last week, check the wiki page on the gihub for more info!
@themiddleground5263
@themiddleground5263 10 місяців тому
Great stuff again! I’ve been looking for a solution for a while, but most involve rearranging the cells - I even found a custom made BMS with all the connectors but it is only for the 24 kWh LEAF. This solution is much cleaner and universal!
@mwalsh5757
@mwalsh5757 10 місяців тому
Keep adding inverters, Dala! Ones you've already verified don't seem to be available in the US market. Would love to see you get the SMA Sunny Boy Storage series (SMA Sunspec Modbus) to work!
@ramzg5402
@ramzg5402 11 місяців тому
Hi well done that's a great work but i just wanna mention to you not to forget the wiring size for AC and DC, the fuse, isolation switch, and SPD in case of lightening, also draw a digram it will help. Thanks
@Ronsson
@Ronsson 10 місяців тому
This is amazing! Really cool, also nice to see someone from Scandinavia doing stuff like this! :D
@galactica1980
@galactica1980 9 місяців тому
You are so lucky to not be over regulated with nanny state rules there. Well done
@grzegorzolszewski9062
@grzegorzolszewski9062 11 місяців тому
My Nissan Leaf battery waited 1.5 years in my garage for something like this. Thanks Dala, great job 👍💡👍 I also have 30kWh, in the same places rust began to get to it 😆😆😆
@michaolszewski892
@michaolszewski892 11 місяців тому
👍👍👍
@beartastic-ftw
@beartastic-ftw 11 місяців тому
.. mine has been waiting in the leaf for almost 9 years:D
@johnbarker5009
@johnbarker5009 3 місяці тому
Very cool! If a person has the technical skills, this is a great, inexpensive option. EV batteries which have lost their resiliency and peak capacity for use in a vehicle can still be used for many years in the less demanding environment of home solar.
@isthiswhatyouwant9485
@isthiswhatyouwant9485 11 місяців тому
Nice… adding to my todo list
@tizio5103
@tizio5103 9 місяців тому
Nearly six minutes of fantastic nerdery, custom wiring, OSS, and tinkery and then smash cut to 5:53 This is a true plug and play solution. 😂 Fantastic work. I'd love to do this.
@peteroffpist1621
@peteroffpist1621 10 місяців тому
Will follow your update. So impressed hope to be able to install a setup like yours in the near future. So great full.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
Thanks! 😁
@chuyskywlk
@chuyskywlk 11 місяців тому
I was very confused by the simplicity of this ("just plug the DC into the inverter") because I'm so used to every inverter being @ 48v. Took a while to dig up that the Fornius is a HV DC inverter, using 150v - 455v for the battery connection side.
@fredflintstone1428
@fredflintstone1428 10 місяців тому
I was thinking the same. Sounds like an ingenious inverter.
@ImprovisedExpletiveDevice
@ImprovisedExpletiveDevice 11 місяців тому
This is excellent, thank you for sharing your project. I have been toying with the idea of building a backup power system because the grid is so poor here and I work remote. This looks exactly like what I need.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Good luck with your project!
@jcs1492
@jcs1492 11 місяців тому
Great information, thanks for posting. Looking forward to future videos
@SolarWebsite
@SolarWebsite 11 місяців тому
I've wondered for some time now, if the market would not have reached a point by now where you can buy and assemble a modular system, consisting (in very general terms) of the following components: * A standard inverter/control box that would do the power conversion, interface with any grid control device, etc. * A battery specific interface box, that would convert the batteries' voltage/current/communication lines to standard values/protocols that could interface with the inverter/control box. * A used EV traction battery So, in your situation you'd buy the inverter control box, a "Nissan Leaf" specific interface box, and you'd have the Nissan Leaf battery. Someone else, who may have a BMW i3 battery available, would buy the same inverter/control box and "BMW i3" specific interface box, and be in business. Of course, this would have to made in large numbers to be affordable, and the legal and safety stuff of trying to commercially sell something like this would be a nightmare. It would, however, provide a large market for used and moderately-degraded EV batteries, silencing the "butbutbut EV batteries will end up in landfills so they suck"-crowd once and for all.
@kathrynck
@kathrynck 10 місяців тому
Make sure the fireproofing you add is _extremely robust_ . Maybe get a sheet-metal shed to put at a modest distance from your house, and run wires from there. Fire departments don't actually "put out" lithium battery fires. They just dump massive amounts of water on them to cool them off somewhat until the battery has burnt up all it's fuel, to hopefully keep the blaze contained. Some have suggested that EV batteries don't belong within 20 meters of any flammable construction. That may be excessive, but the fire can easily melt a car down to a puddle. There are longer lasting batteries with lower power density which are better for non-mobile use.
@anotherriddle
@anotherriddle 11 місяців тому
Very well done for a proof of concept! I'll take a look at the code later and maybe modify it for my own battery.
@davebutler3905
@davebutler3905 8 місяців тому
Brilliant job!!! Thank you for sharing your genius! Some of those esp32 micro controllers have LiPo battery management on board.
@markcollins457
@markcollins457 11 місяців тому
Love it, nothing makes me feel better than let the Big Energy people tell the public the way you should become energy independent and you just do what works for you, the more people learn how to do it yourself the better WE THE PEOPLE are thank you.
@siberx4
@siberx4 11 місяців тому
I hope that a project like this will be available for my Bolt EV whenever it reaches end of life in 10 years or whatever; I'd love to be able to reuse the battery as a house backup and storage rather than recycling with the rest of the vehicle, because I'm confident the battery will still have plenty of life/value left at that point.
@alexannal
@alexannal 11 місяців тому
I was looking to see if anyone had done this a few weeks ago. This is brilliant grat job
@CarlinComm
@CarlinComm 9 місяців тому
That is an awesome looking setup! Subscribed and looking for more :)
@mistarogerz911
@mistarogerz911 11 місяців тому
You are greener than the government. Great job!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Thanks 😁
@Umski
@Umski 11 місяців тому
Nice one 👍 I was curious about the inverter and HV battery but it seems it takes wuite a wide DC voltage range which is perfect for this re-use - unlike 48V systems which require more up and down conversions. I guess the only snag I can see here is playing around with HV DC 😬
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP 2 місяці тому
Awesome, I wish everyone understood the energy independence renewables and storage brings.
@scifithoughts3611
@scifithoughts3611 11 місяців тому
Thank you so much for sharing! I love this reuse of old EV batteries!!!
@alexanderfriedberger2455
@alexanderfriedberger2455 11 місяців тому
Amazing Work. Thanks for your hard work!
@ilya_od_ua
@ilya_od_ua 10 місяців тому
Looks really good if you don't want to disassemble the battery pack and do the rewiring
@MindBurntDE
@MindBurntDE 11 місяців тому
This world needs more genius people like you to create a better world.
@Top12Boardsport
@Top12Boardsport 11 місяців тому
Wow this I have been dreaming of and you just explained how to solve this to my electrician. Thanks so great full. 👌
@migmigjohnson9351
@migmigjohnson9351 2 місяці тому
I would love to install this in my RV.
@adrianflower3230
@adrianflower3230 11 місяців тому
Wow! Awesome inventiveness. 👍👍
@6andrew2
@6andrew2 7 місяців тому
Thank you for this excellent education.
@A2an
@A2an 9 місяців тому
Grate stuff, I probably would add a grounding wire to the battery, for safety. For your safety... 😊
@markust5601
@markust5601 11 місяців тому
Thank you for a great video! Just a few moore panels and batteries and you cut the grid completely
@Lee-rq7mr
@Lee-rq7mr 11 місяців тому
Hi Dala do you have any thoughts on making this for available as a package for people off grid? I have thought I could just run a 12v invertor straight from the leaf 12v battery as the main battery also feeds into (charges) the 12v. Would this still work if I swapped the cars 12v battery for a larger capacity 12v leisure battery?
@W4rH4wkXX
@W4rH4wkXX 11 місяців тому
awesome job! I'm almost ready to build my own solar setup.... 💪💪
@MechmanGetrieb
@MechmanGetrieb 11 місяців тому
Great way to power anything, not just a shop !
@Ackerpilot72
@Ackerpilot72 3 місяці тому
I think i watched this Video 5x 😀 This is soooo awesome. Bought a used Leaf Batterie last week. Iam going to do the same. Thank you so much for sharing.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 3 місяці тому
Good luck with the project!
@Djeloan
@Djeloan 2 місяці тому
Mind sharing how much did you pay for the battery? I’m getting more and more interested in this stuff, but i’m not able to find where could i buy a used car battery? Thanks
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 2 місяці тому
@@Djeloan i bought from Norway, since it is so close. Gbd.no
@rossbransby
@rossbransby 11 місяців тому
A bit gutted by this video. A month back our 30kWh Leaf was written off. I searched for options for home storage but all seemed to involve striping the pack down to cells so I did nothing about it. Salvage cost I could have paid for the car was £2,900. If I'd seen this video then I may have gone for it - particularly as packs on eBay seem to be about £5k. Oh well, such is life. Great 'inventing' and video, many thanks. ps, would be interested about the question someone else asked about storing packs vertically rather than flat - any potential issues? > Just seen this is already answered - you think fine vertical. Cheers.
@StartledPancake
@StartledPancake 10 місяців тому
You could buy at least 16 kWh of brand new lifepo4 cells for that price, which will have a vastly greater cycle life and use an off the shelf BMS. Nothing lost IMHO, these leafs packs degrade relatively quickly and are a poor fit for powerwall use as they have weird voltages. Also I wouldn't put a cobalt based battery chemistry in my home, they are far too fire prone.
@PeaceChanel
@PeaceChanel Місяць тому
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
@mycarstrackdaysandfails9793
@mycarstrackdaysandfails9793 4 місяці тому
You should have 1mln subscribers by now. I tell all my feiends about your sollutions... its amazing research you have fone. Smart man.
@simond7582
@simond7582 11 місяців тому
I just got the lilygo and will try connecting it to my older Fronius Symo inverter....our old 2012 leaf is due for a battery upgrade soon so hope to use the removed battery for storage!
@dominicwild3189
@dominicwild3189 Місяць тому
That Symo may not be compatible?
@simond7582
@simond7582 Місяць тому
@dominicwild3189 its compatible with tesla, byd and fronius wall batteries so should be fine, I've connected the lilygo to it and is does communicate, just waiting to get my hands on a battery now....
@dominicwild3189
@dominicwild3189 Місяць тому
Thanks for reply, I thought Symos were not meant to assist in battery charging/discharging to grid? @@simond7582
@tristanbased-af2159
@tristanbased-af2159 7 місяців тому
awesome video!
@crypticanswerz
@crypticanswerz 11 місяців тому
Great job Dala, super excited to see you get it working with a Tesla battery!
@talpomeroy5808
@talpomeroy5808 9 місяців тому
Great idea I just junked my S and will try and get it back
@senhalil
@senhalil 10 місяців тому
Stumbled upon your video by chance and I must say this is very neat! It is a bit on the riskier side for my liking but still amazing that you can go off-grid. All the power to you! I wonder something though. How do/did you make sure the used Leaf/Tesla battery pack is in good shape and there are no problematic cells that's gonna burn the house?
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
By checking out the battery beforehand: github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-Leaf-Battery-to-OBD2
@paulcobham27
@paulcobham27 9 місяців тому
Thank you great information
@mikeycbd
@mikeycbd 9 місяців тому
Wow. This is what I'm hoping to do when my LEAF is at end of life. (the battery pack) Thanks for the video.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 9 місяців тому
Thanks! Recently added support for some SMA inverters which are very popular down under! 😁
@louisvl10
@louisvl10 2 місяці тому
wow, game changer! this is like 5x cheaper than purpose built new home batteries, thanks!
@matthewgallagher4913
@matthewgallagher4913 11 місяців тому
I know it is straightforward, but showing a parallel setup so you are able to connect more batteries as required would be useful. Great work as ever!
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Yes it is possible to string together multiple batteries. On my Patreon Discord server there are users with multiple batteries!
@zodiacfml
@zodiacfml 10 місяців тому
last time I saw this, a used LEAF battery costs almost the same as brand new LFP cells with the same capacity. in other words, you are better off with LFP because it has several times the cycle life and much more flexibility for installation than the EV battery. It also helps recycling the old LEAF batteries to extract various metals in it for better use
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
Nah, used batteries here sit at 75€/kWh , you cannot get new ones cheaper than that
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 11 місяців тому
2:16 please tell me you have fuses in that junction box....
@stevedutcher3875
@stevedutcher3875 11 місяців тому
Looking forward to the video where you explain the Leaf pack more thoroughly, so us with less smarts can consider doing likewise!!
@NB-ld1qt
@NB-ld1qt 11 місяців тому
Well done Dala. What you have done is genius. If I can source a battery I will definitely give this a go. On a different topic. Why is it not possible to repack a leaf battery with after market cells and reuse the existing wiring to these cells ? I know it would be difficult to match the physical size but the newer cells would make up for this all be it with slightly less range.
@pashko90
@pashko90 11 місяців тому
Everything is possible if you are motivated enough...
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Wrong BMS parameters, reduced crash safety, more dangerous charging, harder to insure etc. Anything is possible, but this needs to be done by a company and not a DIY job
@backwoodsbungalow9674
@backwoodsbungalow9674 11 місяців тому
Good question; one company is taking the cell upgrade approach for the Mitsubishi triplets but has been slow getting to market. Cell upgrade involves many hours of labour, so a higher capacity Leaf battery pack from a crashed car is probably more cost effective, if you can find one. ☮️
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 11 місяців тому
Replacing cells is something I do in my shop. It is easy but if you have to ask these types of questions, you shouldn't do it. Be sure to wear 5000 volt gloves.
@gltubes
@gltubes 5 місяців тому
Hi, can the supported inveters and hardware/software of the GitHub project also handle two or more EV batteries ?
@damianjones6546
@damianjones6546 7 місяців тому
Fascinating, thanks 👍
@dnoermann
@dnoermann 11 місяців тому
Great work, thanks a lot Dala.
@maximilianreichelt9717
@maximilianreichelt9717 2 місяці тому
The Fronius Gen24 has a +5 V Output. You can use that to power your PCBs.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 2 місяці тому
There is also +12V via the Modbus connector!
@Robulite
@Robulite 2 місяці тому
I like the channel just the intro is a bit long
@koffearonsson4331
@koffearonsson4331 7 місяців тому
🎉 great setup!
@EverydayLife621
@EverydayLife621 11 місяців тому
Perfect idea - I do think you need more solar panels to fill the EV battery - love the arduino - we use them for remote data logging on environmental monitoring - any thoughts to connect to a more recent current/live/real EV via the 400v DC CCS connector?
@peteinwisconsin2496
@peteinwisconsin2496 11 місяців тому
> . . . any thoughts to connect to a more recent current/live/real EV via the 400v DC CCS connector? < I want to do that too! Boosting my 4kW, 215 Vmpp PV array to 400+/- volts with a boost-mode DC-DC converter is no big deal. Getting the car to recognize and accept charge from what I will call "PV-->EV DC slow charge" will take some effort. Are these communication protocols and signals(codes) published somewhere? I already found the pin outs.
@jonhatton-brown
@jonhatton-brown 11 місяців тому
My knowledge may be out of date but CCS never used to support v2h. Dropping chademo for CCS killed a lot of v2g and v2h startups in the UK. Maybe newer implementations of the CCS standard supports it now.
@rexmundi8154
@rexmundi8154 10 місяців тому
I’ve watched this a few times trying to get my head around it. I’m looking to do a conversation like Regen EV’s fastleaf, but the vehicle will be primarily battery storage for an off grid property. I’d like to have a way to fairly easily disconnect and move the vehicle. If I used the aux port for the heater as the output to the grid, I could keep the main power to the motor connected? For the canbus plug could I use a jumper to just put a second connector somewhere accessible? Any advice would be appreciated.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
Use the Chademo socket, it can be used bidirectionally
@TheCode-BrandedBeard
@TheCode-BrandedBeard 9 місяців тому
This is super cool, I appreciate all the work you put it to document and share the work you did. Have you done the same process for any other EV packs?
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 9 місяців тому
Yes, see the wiki for more info: github.com/dalathegreat/BYD-Battery-Emulator-For-Gen24/wiki#supported-batteries-list
@franciscodias2584
@franciscodias2584 4 місяці тому
Thanks for sharing. I really think it's a great idea to recycle older or half-life batteries from electric vehicles. We help the environment and become independent of the grid. Regards from Brazil!
@patricklegault6383
@patricklegault6383 11 місяців тому
just make sure you use a fuse in the reducing wire box to limit the amount of amp that can pass in the wire to prevent a short (accident) at the end and burn everything
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
Good idea! Also protective earth is missing from this temporary install!
@glockieme
@glockieme 11 місяців тому
Fantastic video and a fantastic idea. Imagine if Zoe batteries could be used! There are so many old ones about.
@Luke-li6hf
@Luke-li6hf 11 місяців тому
I have two Zoe battery to. I would like use them.
@crazyronnie
@crazyronnie 11 місяців тому
Fantastic work Dala 💯
@richard8181
@richard8181 10 місяців тому
Love your work, thanks from AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺👍🍻
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 10 місяців тому
Cheers mate! 👋
@pashko90
@pashko90 11 місяців тому
Does next upgrade will gonna be battery(leaf) to battery(leaf) charge?
@stevedutcher3875
@stevedutcher3875 11 місяців тому
Dala, that is something I would like to do for an off grid application, but could explain it a little simpler for us that are not as advanced as you. Especially the part how you can charge the 400volt dc battery pack safely. Also, can this be used with your 48 volt system that you already have installed?
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
The solar inverter is charging the 400V battery either directly with the solar panels, or it can also charge from the grid. All the magic happens inside the Fronius Gen24. This is very different from the 48V battery I built a while back. I would not recommend the 48V anymore, this is soo much better and easier to use!
@ScoopDogy
@ScoopDogy 11 місяців тому
@@DalasEVRepair It appears the key here is that Fronius Gen24 is capable of charging a high voltage dc battery, right? Watching the video I was trying to figure out how you were converting that high voltage battery to 48 volts. I have a Sol-Ark 12k and I'd have to find out if it is capable of charging HV DC batteries.....Evidently I'm "old school" having broken my leaf battery apart three yeas ago and configured it to 48v :)
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
@@ScoopDogy Correct, the Fronius handles both charging and discharging. This is the future, so simple!
@kjnisula
@kjnisula 11 місяців тому
Great stuff. 12v wire setup and how and when to do switching needs clarity. Otherwise seems clear in github and on this video 🎉🎉
@blusox78
@blusox78 9 місяців тому
Have you ever thought of creating a kit for particular batteries? I'd be interested in helping you develop one
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 9 місяців тому
Massive liability. No way I would be able to sleep at night. Open source community ftw!
@blusox78
@blusox78 9 місяців тому
@@DalasEVRepair yeah, most likely
@bj42paul
@bj42paul 2 місяці тому
Leaf batteries start to look like a worthwhile investment :)
@matejorsag6515
@matejorsag6515 11 місяців тому
Hi Dala, I admire your skills and inventions. I would not be able to set it up by myself, but if there is any plug-and-play kit on the market in the future, I would buy just the kit, inverter, and used leaf battery, which would be huge.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 11 місяців тому
All the parts needed are listed in the Github link in the description. It is very cheap, and I want to keep it that way. I also don't want to be liable or have to give support about this, so it is best to keep it as an open-source project!
@matroosoft4589
@matroosoft4589 11 місяців тому
​​​@@DalasEVRepair understandable. Although I think for less tech savvy people it would be great if it could be simplified even more. Like, could we use the liligo to do the startup sequence? Can the liligo be powered directly from the Leaf battery? Keep up the good work btw 💪
@samwilson5158
@samwilson5158 11 місяців тому
@@matroosoft4589 no, this is why the leaf and all other EV have a 12 VDC aux battery. Something has to run the control circuits safely to then command the HV system. It's a horse before cart problem here 😅
@beartastic-ftw
@beartastic-ftw 11 місяців тому
@@matroosoft4589 you could absolutely use the esp32 on the lilligo together, with some relays (maybe just mosfets, need to study a bit), to do the start-up sequence. i'm sure Dala or someone else will get to it before I do a battery upgrade and free up my old leaf battery but if not I'll take a stab at it then.
@bingosunnoon9341
@bingosunnoon9341 11 місяців тому
I have lots of used batteries I wish I could give away. New batteries are cheap, about 35 USD per kg. with BMS. Is that a problem for you?
@RajaaKahel
@RajaaKahel 2 місяці тому
Wow man! This is a good channel! Subscribed.
@AdrianMcDaid
@AdrianMcDaid 11 місяців тому
This is excellent. Well done
@matthewmcclinton4593
@matthewmcclinton4593 11 місяців тому
Nicely done. Eager to see your fireproofing solutions. My understand is that the leaf’s battery chemistry is fundamentally safer than other EV battery chemistries. Also, the onboard BMS is fairly robust and should prevent overcharging throughout its usable life. As long as the battery pack remains sealed, with no opportunity for water to enter, the risk of fire will be close to zero. But, it’s always good to plan for the worst.
@InternetListener
@InternetListener 11 місяців тому
Fireproofing the battery or the wood house?
@toucan_can
@toucan_can 11 місяців тому
The onboard BMS won’t protect anything, it will simply flag an alarm which Dala’s equipment must act upon. The only way to render the battery safe in a fault condition is to disconnect the HVDC lines using the contactors which Dala hasn’t implemented. Very much work in progress compared to other efforts.
@beartastic-ftw
@beartastic-ftw 11 місяців тому
short of placing the battery in a tub with a solenoid valve to fill it with water in case of fire, the only fireproofing you can do is use fire bricks, aerated concrete, expanded clay etc to make sure the heat cannot reach anything flammable and let it burn out.
@InternetListener
@InternetListener 11 місяців тому
@@beartastic-ftw never mix electricity with water. CO2 fire extinguisers, proper chemistry study need, and preventing explosions and presence of fire fuel nearby...
@2036scott
@2036scott 11 місяців тому
@@InternetListener hes right, the only way you can put these fires out is to keep it cool and let it burn out, so firefighters tend to stick them in a big tub full of water. As seen here ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qaepjqtqpYyAu2Q.html and ukposts.info/have/v-deo/g6p7aoKnnKiCtp8.html
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