Best Thunderbolt 4 Docks for Mac Compared!

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Today we are going to compare the 3 biggest names in Thunderbolt docks to see which Thunderbolt 4 dock is best for you. We are comparing the CalDigit TS4 vs OWC Thunderbolt Dock vs Anker 777 Apex!
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13:53 Which to get?

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@JerrySchulze Рік тому

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@pyromethious Рік тому

Wouldn't the data transfer be affected by some sort of caching done by the Mac? That might explain why the first one was slower than the others.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

@@pyromethious possible, but I don’t think so. If you run the same test 10 times you will have slight variations. I did it again after the video and it was basically the same on all.

@PeterWitham Рік тому

Greatly appreciate you going into all the details on each device, thank you for making it easier to wrap my head around Thunderbolt on the Mac.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Glad to help!

@maestrosteve Рік тому

I bought a Satechi Thunderbolt 4 Dock, and have been using it for 4 months. It's been flawless. Similar looking to the OWC that you are reviewing. They may even be the same unit with a different name on it.

@unc1589 11 місяців тому

Excellent presentation! I went with the Caldigit T4 and used my points (I’ll keep and eye on your videos in the future!). Gotta say I’m happy as a pig in a slop jacuzzi. It’s got everything I need!

@davidwalser462 8 місяців тому

This was an excellent review.

@rgarlinyc 9 місяців тому

Great insights - thanks a ton! I also need a Thunderbird dock for 4+ external 18TB discs - I'll check to see if you review this any where now...

@views40 2 місяці тому

This video is AMAZING! Excellent information, well thought out, well written, and Jerry genuinely cares. Love it! Thank you :-)

@johnmanning8982 Рік тому

Good video, Thanks. I just received the TS4 today after sending back the Anker. One item you may want to mention is the cable that comes with the units. I was pleased that the TS4 cable was Thunderbolt 4

@jessherbst810 Рік тому

Very comprehensive review, good job.

@TheThaiLife Рік тому

At first, I thought, another doc video. But this is really the best one I’ve seen. Great information. Thanks for explaining in a much better way why people actually need these. I want one but until now I didn’t really understand what I would use it for. Now I do, thank you.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Glad it was helpful, which one are you getting?

@richardegil Рік тому

Thanks I about to make a purchase on a dock and these were all in contention. Your review has solidified my decision in the CalDigit, thanks!

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Good choice and thanks for checking it out!

@daviddas 8 місяців тому

Nice vid. Wish you had posted a graphic comparison chart (especially of port configurations), which would have made it a lot easier for me to zero in on all the factors that matter to me.

@madness8556 8 місяців тому

I got the OWC Thunderbolt dock because unlike the Caldigit TS4 that I really wanted to own, it has that extra bit thunderbolt port missing on the Caldigit.

@Ian-gf8id Рік тому

For those that just need additional ports, and not a card reader / headphone socket / LAN connectivity, the Caldigit Element Thunderbolt 4 dock is excellent. Small, TB4 and USB-A, powered. I find it's an excellent expansion hub/dock for my Mac Studio.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Yes, the Element hub is also great!

@jamesspo Рік тому

Good job. Very helpful. 👍

@JimOutLoud Місяць тому

Really great video! I do a lot of traveling multi-camera Zoom meetings. So the TS-4 is what I was leaning toward... and this video reaffirmed that decision.

@ed61730 Рік тому

Omg i've been looking for a product like the ts4 since i got my 16" m1max! Will defo get this sometime

@JoeGibbs Рік тому

Jerry, great timing on this video. I have been struggling to find a hub for my 2021 M1 Macbook Pro with little success. Comparing these 3 docks clarified my decision. Thanks!!

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Awesome. Which one are you getting?

@JoeGibbs Рік тому

@@JerrySchulze The Caldigit TS4. Had considered the other 2 contenders, and recently tested and returned the Anker 568 USB-C Docking Station. Turned out it only did mirror mode for 2 displays on my 2021 M1 Pro. I am currently using my trusty TwelveSouth StayGo hub. It works in a minimalist fashion but needs to be retired for something better.

@JoeGibbs Рік тому

The front audio port was a deciding factor, well plus the higher power for charging and more ports. . I like being able to plug in headphones and watch it override the rear speaker connections.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

I just noticed the tip, thank you very much!

@richardcarlson127 Рік тому

I have both the OWC TD and the CalDigit TS4. I got the OWC first, before the TS4 was available and while it worked fine, it was nowhere near as elegant a solution as the TS4. Later on we got 2.5GB Internet here and the faster Ethernet port on the TS4 came in handy. My wife inherited my OWC when she switched from a Mini to a MBP and since her use case is less demanding than mine it is working just fine for her so the money did not go to waste. I have grown to really appreciate the TS4 since i have had it, it ticks all my boxes and works great.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

That’s so awesome to hear! The ts4 is my preferred dock. It just has More of everything. More aluminum, more ports, more power.

@tr4nnel752 Рік тому

I am curious, what compromises did you need to make with the OWC in comparison to the TS4?

@richardcarlson127 Рік тому

@@tr4nnel752 The Ethernet is 1GB on the OWC, 2.5 on the TS4 (we have 2GB Internet here) and the TS4 has a DP, more USB, 3 audio ports vs 1, separate SD and uSD card slots as well as better port placement. On the OWC the computer port is on the front making for an awkward cable management situation, the TS4 is on the rear that allows you to keep the cables that are always plugged in going unseen.

@tr4nnel752 Рік тому

@@richardcarlson127 Thanks, appreciated! I would also miss the DP port and understand the TS4 is more versatile.

@alastairleith8612 2 місяці тому

@@JerrySchulzeand at significantly more cost you’d hope so.

@mahmood1212 Рік тому

Thank you. Very helpful.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Glad it was helpful!

@247LilJoker Рік тому

Great video as always. Love your content. I have a question about the Caldigit but I guess it’s is something that could be tested on all of them. Can you use a MagSafe cable and still have it charge a MacBook Pro?

@musicman0024 10 місяців тому

Super helpful. Thank you!

@JerrySchulze 10 місяців тому

You're welcome!

@Pomdaddy 11 місяців тому

Thank you Jerry for a very informative video. I was looking into these very docks. I have an older OWC Thunderbolt 2 dock and have upgraded my older 2012 MBP to a newer MBP M1 and a Mac mini M1. Is it possible to keep my older dock and somehow connect a newer dock? Or just replace the older dock with a newer one? Thanks again for a very professional presentation.

@stephenkeever6029 Рік тому

This is a really well done video on the 3 top docks and I found it very helpful. I have been looking at the OWC Thunderbolt Pro Dock on sale that is closer to the CalDigit features but at a lower price.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Ya, that dock confuses me. 10g ethernet is awesome but one usb port, one thunderbolt port for stuff....it just doesn't have enough for the price, in my opinion.

@JasonTaylor-po5xc Рік тому

@@JerrySchulze Yeah, I wish it had more ports too, but other 10G options cost nearly $200-$300 alone - so if 10G is important, that seems like a solid choice. Compared to 2.5G adapters are in the $70 range - which makes the TS4 a bit spendy for what you get.

@Vagabondo-fs6qu 11 місяців тому

Hello Jerry. Found this very informative. Looking at the equipment on your desk, it is quite the set up. How is everything connected, i.e. cable/wiring diagram?

@markrussell. Рік тому

I have the CalDigit TS4, probably one of the best things I ever bought for my computing needs. Worth every penny!

@DaneReidVoiceOver Рік тому

Me too and I agree

@mwdiers Рік тому

I've been through four CalDigit docks at work. They keep failing. Two had HDMI ports die because the ports were too close to the power in and this evidently caused the ports to fail from heat/cool stress. They each lasted about two months. The last one, a TS3+, started getting unstable randomly after about a year, and would disconnect/reconnect. I have the OWC dock in this video for my home office setup, and it's been solid for two years now. At work I am now using the newer OWC Thunderbolt Go Dock at work and so far it has been solid.

@jinraigami3349 4 місяці тому

Dang! Considering the thicc body of CD, it should have been more durable than OWC.

@fredaker8353 Рік тому

Great review Jerry. I own the TS4 and want to warn viewers about buying this in the EU. That more powerful power supply you described comes at a painful price. It develops a high pitched squeal over time. This has been reported by multiple reviewers in Germany. Sometimes the replacement units have this defect as well. Caldigit does everything they can to discourage you from making a warranty claim. They will not provide an interim loaner. They also claim that due to Brexit that you will lose weeks of transit time in customs both directions. I am waiting to send mine back before an upcoming business trip to China. This is unacceptable quality and an unacceptable policy in a unit that costs so much more than the competition. I have moved my Synology Disk Station closer to my desk. Four Iron Wolf hard drives constantly spinning masks most of the painful TS4 power supply squeal.

@boldyboldyboldy Рік тому

Thanks for letting us know, I'm sensitive to high frequenciers so definitely a no-buy for me then

@MiemoPenttinen 10 місяців тому

Thanks for the warning!

@robertogonzalez6483 7 місяців тому

Thanks boss

@artofdao 3 місяці тому

Do you know the new ivanky for eu?

@eierchopf1 2 місяці тому

I‘ve sent back 2 units because of this annoying ring! Waiting for the OWC dock now hoping to find peaceat last lol

@khoifoto Рік тому

I've been using the OWC dock for a long time with my M1 Max Macbook Pro. I also use Anker PowerExpand 5-in-1 Thunderbolt 4 Mini Dock to add more thunderbolt ports.

@bryans8656 Рік тому

I've purchased OWC products in the past and they've been very reliable, so I would lean toward their dock.

@richardyuen5786 10 місяців тому

I've been using a Sonnet Echo 11 Thunderbolt 4 Dock for over a year and it has been really great. No complains, always connects perfectly. I also have an older Caldigit TS3 which I still use.

@PaulSpaccavento 11 днів тому

No coil whine on the Sonnet Echo 11?

@anthony7400 Рік тому

You might want to also review Displaylink based docks for people that want to drive more then 1 display from a MB Airs and even Mini.

@JustinFYI Рік тому

This video answered all of the questions I would have had to sift through. Thank you Jerry!

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Awesome!

@fanjan7527 8 місяців тому

Are there any benefits in these docks using both Thunderbolt ports on the Macbooks?

@jaysgood10 Рік тому

The power supplies for these docks are as large as the docks themselves. That’s why I went with the OWC Thunderbolt Go. Built in PS and host port on the side. Cheaper than the Cal Digit too.

@Diego_USA-BR Рік тому

Great video! Thank you!

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Glad you liked it!

@transitengineer 11 місяців тому

Thank you, for this excellent review of these three (3) Thunderbolt 4 Docks. For myself, the Cal-Digit is the best (but also looks in my option ugly) and the OWC dock appears to be the weak model (but, has the best stylish looks).

@alanwdougherty 7 місяців тому

Can the Caldigit output 4k at HFR 120Hz+ over USB-C to HDMI 2.1 adaptor on an M1 MAC PRO? Currently, the M1 PRO will only work over specific USB-C to HDMI 2.1 adaptors with specific firmware when directly connected. Otherwise they remain capped at 60HZ

@jesst.427 11 місяців тому

Thank you for this. I am looking to get the MacBook Pro M2 16’ model. Will I be able to use 3-4 external 1080p monitors on the TS4?

@retomusterle2419 Рік тому

Thank you for the comparison, really appreciated. As you have a 10GB network, is there still no Thunderbolt dock with 10GB network?

@daviddas 8 місяців тому

Also - I use a MBP driving a 4k TV. I learned the hard way that plugging in Mac > hub > HDMI > TV results in a picture that exceeds the boundaries of the 4k TV, and mysteriously, Apple disables the overscan setting, so I can't fix it! However, if I plug in the MBP's native HDMI port > TV, it works perfectly. I wish I knew why, and I'd be curious to know if any of these 3 docks DON'T have this problem.

@JerrySchulze 8 місяців тому

No issues with a 4k display, not sure about a tv.

@daviddas 8 місяців тому

@@JerrySchulze thanks for the reply. Tempting to try them...

@ed_ms Рік тому

I'm using a Caldigit TS3+, the previous model. Very satisfied of it, and very reliable. There is really only 1 downside: the price. Especially after buying a MacBook which aren't the cheapest laptops out there either. All things considered, for me, it's worth the cost. All my stuff is connected and neatly organized thanks to this little grey box. In the mean time the MacBook stays charged, great for the battery life, and on the front ports I always have the possibility to quickly charge a mouse, or keyboard or whatever, without having to unplug anything else in my set-up.

@adsertheblade 3 місяці тому

Hi, and thanks for the great video. I have an M1 Macbook and bought a Wavlink dock to connect it to my LG 5k2k and my RME audio interface, so I can have more real-estate when recording and mixing music. For some reason, the incoming audio is distorted in a way I'm not even sure I can describe, so recording becomes impossible, unless I unplug the screen, in which case it's perfect. The power adapter states 200w output, so I'm not sure that's what's making it fall short. Any idea if any of your offerings would solve the problem? Thanks for your time.

@galoki5654 10 місяців тому

I have the Mac mini M2 pro. using the OWC Thunderbolt Dock, performance was good. issue I have with it is when the Mac is in sleep mode, my 2 LG 27UK850s would constantly wake and go to sleep. OWC support was no help. I happen to also. have the OWC Thunderbolt Hub and so far have not had that issue.

@Guironey Рік тому

thxxxx for thisss

@darrellhornick7764 Рік тому

The extra Thunderbolt 4 ports on the TS4, would they be a good way to hookup and run external monitors as well? Not really wanting to use HDMI or Display ports for monitors. I have a MacBook M1 Pro and want dual monitors. I have dual monitors now but one keeps going to sleep randomly which I don't understand.

@bikertlk 10 місяців тому

Good Day Sir I have a questions regarding Caldigit TS4. I am using this with a Dell XPS 15 9520 I get a weak charging state , please check power charger warning on the task bar, is there anyway to make this go away. I am a fairly new subscriber to your channel and am currently going thru your back catalog of videos and am finding them most useful Thanks

@ToddWhiteStudios 10 місяців тому

Hello. Great video! I just got my M2 Max 16" laptop. Want to get a dock for it. Noticed the Mac power supply is 140w and these put out lower power. To be clear, I DO NOT plan to use a dock to power my Mac. I just want it to connect devices - ethernet, hard drives, audio (but not required) and I will use the HDMI connection on my Mac for the additional screen. So just the Mac display + HDMI out to second screen.... suggestions? Thanks in advance

@souptime4109 Рік тому

Work at a place that uses large volumes of the anker 777, thing is extremely buggy and frequently refuses to connect to systems or display video outs across MacOS and Windows. Requiring tons of restarts before it works again.

@butlerwm 11 місяців тому

I own the OWC TB4 Hub rather than the Dock. The hub has 3 separate TB controllers; one for each port. It's what made my buying choice 2 years ago since the CalDigit equivalent at the time had a single TB controller for its 3 ports. Do you know how many controllers are in each of the three devices you've reviewed here?

@leicaman Рік тому

I’ve owned the TS3 and TS4. There really is no competition for those who need Thunderbolt 4. I wish they would put Compact Flash ports on the next version.

@WhittyPics Рік тому

Your recommendation of the CalDigit Dock solved the drive disconnect issue I was having with my 2020 27" iMac. I guess mechanical drive need a powered dock?

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

That’s awesome! Ya my guess is the Mac ports just were not going it enough power.

@conneryjohnson 10 місяців тому

Do these units require power or can I use it for SD transfers from mg iPad without AC power?

@maiba02 Рік тому

Nice review! What about coil whine? Do any of them make some sort of electromagnetic noise when plugged? Cheers

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

None that I have heard.

@yorgohoebeke Місяць тому

Do any of these allow for a MacBook air m2 to connect to two external screens?

@cszulu2000 5 місяців тому

What if you went a completely different way, create a bag that goes from both ends of the fence, behind the saw, and a connection for hose in the middle or two hose connections on each side of the saw?

@jm56481 Рік тому

I got one of these TS4 docks the first week it came out after some crappy experience with a Anker TB3 dock. Never had a single issue running 2 External displays one is 1440p 140hz and a 4k 60hz display. Im a software engineer and have found the 98w charging for my MBP 16 inch has been adequate although I wish it could provide the full 140W the Apple charger can provide.

@deandollahite4779 4 місяці тому

I can’t find any docks that allow the full 140w which is odd.

@stevecampisano3116 Рік тому

Hey Jerry, I pulled the trigger on a Mac Mini M2 Pro .... I have 4 monitors (one 4K and three 2K) ... will I be able to connect all four monitors using the TS4?

@brentsmithline3423 Рік тому

Hate host port on the front. That is the main reason I purchased the CalDigit TS4 Thunderbolt 4 Dock. Other reason it is a Thunderbolt 4 device so I should be able to use it for a number of years.

@bt82 11 місяців тому

Does the anker work with a Mac? The product page says it’s not compatible with m1 macs. It doesn’t mention m2 but I guess they weren’t out when this dock launched.

@alanbuck83 Рік тому

Hi jerry I have a hdmi monitor. Do you know if I get adapters from display port to hdmi will I see any issues? Thanks for this look into docks. One of the best videos ive looked over yet. Cheers Alan

@gregorymoore2877 3 місяці тому

You can get a DisplayPort to HDMI cable. Be sure it's an "active" cable because the "passive" ones won't work.

@scotttild 3 місяці тому

I have tried almost all of them and my 2016 Mac keeps telling using too much power. Do any of these work well with an older Mac ?

@Smack0r Рік тому

Actually, I have never come across the Anker. What I did come across, though, is the Dell WD22TB4, which is rarely mentioned anywhere.

@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Рік тому

very useful video. A few things I did not notice that I would suggest could be things to cover in the next video on these topic: 1) whether one really needs a TB4 dock versus a TB3. I bet that for 99.9% of your viewers, CalDigit TS3 is a better deal than CalDigit TS4. 2) overheating do to continuos use specially 3) whether it makes sense to get two docks or to connect the most crucial TB4 device separately to the machine (e.g. when laptops have different TB4 controllers per port); 4) possibility to daisy chain. I have an older 2020 iMac 5k, and I use a CalDigit TB4 element hub (it has 3 TB ports I think) connected to the iMac and two CalDigits TS3 connected to the hub.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Hi, I covered daisy chaining in a previous video but the only issue with connecting 2 TS3s to an Element hub is that you are restricting to a single 40gb connection. if you need that many ports you would be better off load sharing between 2 ports on the Mac.

@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Рік тому

@@JerrySchulze many thanks. that makes sense. I typically leave one of the TB3 behind the iMac for whenever I connect an eGPU. I figure, if both TB3 ports on the imac Are controlled by the same TB3 controller in the motherboard, then they are anyway constrained by 40gb regardless of how many hubs I use. no?

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

@@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Each port on the Mac has its own 40gb channel so you can fully saturate each port.

@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Рік тому

@@JerrySchulze oh in the 2020 iMac 5k too? wow, thanks for sharing. I will give it a try to split the two CalDigits

@sphchurch 5 місяців тому

Question. Running a Mac mini 2018 addition. Have three external drive string to run. I currently use 3 usb hubs to get enough ports for all my peripherals. Each at least 10-1. Could I take one of the caldigit TS4’s plug my three unpowered hubs in and get the mini to quit shutting off two of drives?

@JerrySchulze 5 місяців тому

I woud guess not, they are probably pulling to much power. Something like the Element Hub might work and is a powered hub.

@vfrvfr1023 Рік тому

Returned the TS4 as the ethernet doesn't wake up correctly. Major issue for such an expensive device, and cal digit workarounds did not work for me. It also runs very hot. Ended up going with OWC dock but the TB3 version. My laptop only has TB3, and IMO this dock is much better anyway - it has all the connections on the back (but some additional on the front if required) and has both SD card sizes, and USB3 and USBC on the front. Its just a better design and Mini DisplayPort works fine. It also runs much cooler than the Caldigit, and nvme thunderbolt drive performance was marginally better. If the TB4 version ergonomics were the same I would have got that for future proofing. Didn't try the Anker. Using an i9 MacBook Pro.

@davidcarrico3385 Рік тому

I have the Anker for the hdmi ports. I have found that adapters to hdmi have been really unreliable so like the dedicated hdmi ports.

@stuARTvideoproductions Рік тому

Thanks mate, hey is the card reader on these docks faster than the card reader thats built into my Mac Book Pro (M1 Max)

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

In my tests, yes. Maybe about 15-20%

@dyanunrau8547 9 місяців тому

Hi! Thanks tor the video! I just got a Mac Studio M2, and I'm having a hard time finding a docking station that will support 2 extended displays, most arent compatible yet with the M2 studio, or will only mirror, or will only do one display. The CalDigit looks like it might, but seems hard to get in Canada... any ideas?? Thanks!!

@JerrySchulze 9 місяців тому

Any of these will do 2 extended displays along with the new Satechi thunderbolt dock. Have you checked the website directly?

@amigatommy7 2 місяці тому

Have a calDigit and OWC. The calDigit has no sdCard slots but both run about the same. More heat with the smaller calDigit. Never tried the OWC internet port as I use a 10mb system at home.

@leoyoung7547 Місяць тому

I work in the movie industry. I manage data on set. What I needed was to expand the number of high-speed ports I had. I copy off of the original media to at least three other drives. I wanted every port to be able to run at at least 10 Gb/s. I also have at least one TB3 reader. I chose the OWC. It even has USB A ports for my external mouse and keyboard. I had one unit die on me and there was no issue getting it replaced - over the weekend!

@JerrySchulze Місяць тому

what did you replace it with?

@Genjokoan Рік тому

I have Nikon Z mirrorless cameras that use XQD cards. There are only a very few docks that are XQD capable. So right up front, almost every TB4 dock has ~$100 of kit completely useless to me. The newest Thunderbolt OWC Pro Dock, with CFexpress Type B (XQD compatible) card reader at $330 looks interesting. If they added a couple of M.2 NVME slots it would be very interesting indeed.

@uddyalok23 Місяць тому

Dont think that CF Express B reader will read your XQD cards. I shoot Nikon mirrorless too and am looking for a dock which can read both XQD and CFB. Additionally, i read somewhere else that the OWC Pro Dock (not the one being discussed in this video) is a rebranded model of another company that OWC acquired (could be rumor). Reading various negative reviews about the TS4 too (read reviews on Amazon, B&H, Adorama etc), unfortunately this is a difficult decision.I guess I am looking for a set it and forget it dock and it looks like neither OWC or Caldigit satisfy those requirements convincingly.

@bujin5455 4 місяці тому

Of course, the real question here is how stable are each of these docks. Back when I bought my OWC dock, I bought and returned a dozen other docks because they all had various issues. Such a sleep issues, where the system wouldn't sleep. Or things would disappear after sleep. Or connections to various things wouldn't work or wouldn't be stable. Reliability, stability, and functionality, are seriously big issues, and far more important to talk about in a review than just what ports are on the docks (which you can get from a spec sheet). I wish people would test the things you can only figure out by having your hands on the units. Like whether or not there were any weird behaviors over the course of a month of real world usage. Docking and undocking, sleeping, having a range of different kinds of devices plugged in, and unplugged, without power cycling the computer, etc.

@JerrySchulze 4 місяці тому

I can honestly say, I have had Zero issues with CalDigit docks. Also, no problems with others so it comes down to features you want.

@bujin5455 4 місяці тому

@@JerrySchulze I'd sincerely like to think that feature set is the only distinguishing consideration. However, I have no idea what sort of testing you did, nor how exhaustive it was, over what period it was performed. I know from my own experience, which I have a fair amount of it, most docks have weird issues (in fact, perhaps all of them). And if you read the reviews for most docks, you see those issues come up there as well. It's not a simple matter designing a dock that works 100% as expected. Even the OWC dock you reviewed here (and which I own, and have been using extensively for over a year) is not 100% perfect in this regard. Every so often it won't detect a displace on wake (about two to three times a week), and I'll have to power cycle the display to get the display to show up again (this issue is only present through the dock). Another weird dock issue is that when you use USB-C to HDMI, through the dock, periodically it will randomly shuffle the display order when the computer wakes up, making it so which monitor is primary, and how they relate to each other is altered. Thankfully I was able to workaround this issue by buying USB-C to Display cables, otherwise the OWC dock would be going back as well. So you see, I don't have a lot of faith in your assessment, as your testing is not good enough for you to be aware of issues the OWC dock has, and thus I don't trust your assessment of the other docks either.

@JerrySchulze 4 місяці тому

I dont care if you trust me and I am not trying to sell you. All I can do is offer what my experoences have been. I have used the TS4 almost exclusivley for more that 2 years (before it was publiucly released). For about 6 months I used with non-apple displays and for more than a year with the studio display. Not one single issue. I also had the TS3+ for about 2 years with the same experience. Hope that helps.

@bujin5455 4 місяці тому

@@JerrySchulze I don't suspect you do care if I trust you or not, but the value of a review is only as good as you can trust it (I hope the reason for that is obvious). Since you are providing reviews, you should try to make those reviews trust worthy (and I don't mean that in the salesmanship "you can trust" me sense, I mean that in the engineering QA sense, that is, it's a review worthy of producing confidence), assuming you want your reviews to be valuable as reviews. If you "don't care," then perhaps you should consider doing something you do care about. 🤷🏽‍♂ My OP simply said I'd find your review more valuable if it reviewed elements of the experience I couldn't figure out simply by reading the product page (which was most of your review). However, if you don't want to step it up to that level that's fine, I'm sure you'll have an audience with those people who can't bother to read the product copy.

@JerrySchulze 4 місяці тому

That was the wrong phrase to use. My point is that I can only share my experiences and it is up to you if that is helpful or not. I hope so.

@ryan6391 Рік тому

What about reliability of software and firmware. Having a older Plugable USB-C I have a lot of problems with getting display link software to run my 2 monitors. Do all 3 of these need extra software to run or does Apple just plug and play? Thanks great video!

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

There has been an update recently for the TS4 but in my year and a half with the ts4 I have had no issues. If the Pluggable is using displaylink to create additional fake GPUs for more displays I can see more updates being required.

@peterwg725 Рік тому

Can it be use for saving files into an external hard disk outside of a Mac. My thumb drive too. Thanks for helping😅

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Yes, absolutely

@BennyRietveld Місяць тому

Thanks for this, well done! One question, since obviously you have to keep your computer plugged into the host port, and the host port is also the charger, how does that fit with the whole "don't leave your laptop plugged in all the time while working" school of thought? With my new(ish) M1 MB Pro, I decided to try and keep the battery health optimal and let it charge down to 10 or 20%, then plug it in again. Hard to say if it actually helps, of course, because of many other factors, but it seems to still hold a charge pretty well (it's about 2 years old). Thanks in advance! Oh, I lied. Two questions... the second is: an updated video including the Sonnettech Echo 20? 😀

@JerrySchulze Місяць тому

Hi, thanks for watching. If you leave your macbook plugged in, it will drain the battery down to about 80% after a few days and leave it there. Apple does battery magic to help protect it so in 2024 you really shouldnt stress about the battery health of a MacBook. You can find the Optimized battery charging setting in System settings. Ill add the sonnettech to the list to consider. Thanks!

@BennyRietveld Місяць тому

@@JerrySchulzeThanks! Yeah my info was ancient - from 2021! (Or from an article that was written in 2013 and then “updated”. )😁

@wanglee21 Місяць тому

If traveling and using it in a car/bus/train, will the docks work without being plugged into a battery bank or wall?

@JerrySchulze Місяць тому

No they will not. Something like the CalDigit soho maybe a better option.

@sameershah860 Рік тому

Hey Jerry. I'm so confused as to which one to get. I need a powered dock for my music studio setup. I need to connect: > 1 USB port for HDD ( I will switch to an SSD, from which I will need 10Gbps transfer speed) > 1 USB Audio Interface (I could try switching to USB-C for this one if needed) > 1 USB port for MIDI keyboard > 1 USB port for powering my LED strips > 1 USB-C for monitor DELL S2722DC (2K @ 75Hz) > 1 USB-C for connecting my 2020 Macbook Pro 13" > 2 Ethernet ports to connect my studio sound monitors (1 port would work too) > maybe an extra USB-C port just in case? Idk which Hub to get. Also another question: I have a monitor that sends 65W of power through it's USB-C connectivity cable. If the USB Hub is gonna be powered, and the monitor is also sending 65W of power, do I need to be worried about anything for the macbook?

@gregorymoore2877 3 місяці тому

Ethernet port to connect your speakers? What kind of speakers do you have?

@BernardoCarignano 11 місяців тому

Great review, the only who highlighted the rear audio port and the rear connection for MAC to keep the desktop well organized without cables on the front!

@Kynetguy Рік тому

I have a couple few USB 2.0 capture cards. I would like them to share the bandwidth of a single TB4 port since there is more than adequate bandwidth without killing the entire USB bus. Which dick would be best? Or will they all accomplish what I want and it comes down to a question of port configuration? Is there a more cost effective solution? I have tried a couple usb 3.0 and 3.1 docks, they all seem to fail.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Yes thunderbolt would handle it all and any one of these are capable as long as it has the number of ports you need.

@steven7488 Рік тому

I hope the next-gen CalDigit TS4 can add a power button, so I can turn it off to save energy when I'm not using it

@jeanm182 7 місяців тому

At work I get a pretty good discount on the surface dock thunderbolt 4, so I was wondering if that would be a good purchase if I plan to use it with my Mac? Or would you rather go with any of the suggestions listed here?

@JerrySchulze 7 місяців тому

I haven’t tested but maybe try it and see if it works for you. Return in not.

@himboslice_ 7 місяців тому

my ts3+ died after 4 years, got a killer deal on the microsoft surface tb4 dock and it's been solid so far. didn't need all the fatures of the ts4.

@JerrySchulze 7 місяців тому

thats cool!

@slammandrews3408 Рік тому

Do any of these have rack ears? Which one fits best in a 1/2 space rack?

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

none of them have rack ears. The ts4 is the thickest at 1.65" and may not fit depending on the shelf height.

@deenfarman4632 7 місяців тому

can i just use my old 27”as just a monitor for my mac book air?

@JerrySchulze 7 місяців тому

only if it is something like 2015 and below that supports target display mode.

@bobafett9162 7 місяців тому

can u daisy chain an eGPU to those over Thunderbolt 3?

@alastairleith8612 2 місяці тому

12:03 there is such a thing as a 4 pin 3.5 mm male jack to 2x 3 pin 3.5 mm female jacks converter available on ebay for about $4

@FastRedPonyCar Рік тому

I've had the previous generation TS3 Plus since 2018 and it's been a champ. It's $100 cheaper than the TS4 and still a very capable device if you don't need the absolute fastest USB/TB transfer speeds.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

It is great and same thunderbolt speed.

@Soul_Visuals_Photography Рік тому

I have a 24 inch iMac and I edit from external drives. I do photography and videography. So having four ports on the back just isn’t enough. This was a great video and I think I have made my decision to go with the OWC.

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Thanks for sharing!

@michaeldrager 8 місяців тому

What about this option? Echo 20 Thunderbolt 4 SuperDock

@paulgero Рік тому

Superb review. Very clear and precise. The caldigit will be the one I need.

@s991534 10 місяців тому

Are they come with US/Eur/UK plug?

@hmurchison8123 Рік тому

Come on people. Jerry is awesome at explaining tech....let's get him to 50k Subs. Reward solid Content Creators. Great job JS

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

I appreciate that!

@Arterium 7 місяців тому

TS4 for sure!

@gsh0cked Рік тому

Hi Jerry, is there a dock that allows me to hook up a MacBook pro and Mac Studio?

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Not a dock but I believe a thunderbolt KVM exists that could sit between the dock and 2 computers.

@JaredHoyman Рік тому

Google saw that I have been researching this for my macbook pro m2 for the last month and shoved your video in my face. I have my mac connected hdmi 2.1 at 120hz to my lg oled. Would I be able to get 120hz with an hdmi 2.1 adapter to display port with the caldigit? Just sub'd ;)

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

Hi thanks so much for watching and google for shoving it in your face! Yes, you can do that but you would need to have an "active" adapter like this...shop.caldigit.com/us/Adapters%20and%20Cables/Adapter%20?product_id=214

@bluediver712 5 місяців тому

If I'd like to connect two 6K 32" displays to MacBook Pro M3 Pro what kind of and how many ports I have to have to get the expected 6K resolution with the highest refreshment rate? If I also would like to connect an external 8T SDD which slot should I use to get max speed?

@gregorymoore2877 3 місяці тому

Is it the Apple Pro Display XDR? Doesn't that support display daisy chaining via Thunderbolt?

@sglatitude 13 днів тому

While Caldigit TS4 boasts power delivery up to 98 W or Ivanky dock with 96W power delivery but i doubt it is enough to supply enough power for 16” MBP M3 Max which Apple shipped with 140W power adapter 😢

@JerrySchulze 10 днів тому

Unless you are running blender renders for 6 hours straight, it is enough. You may drain your battery but it will be slow when connected to 98w.

@sglatitude 10 днів тому

Cool, thanks for the reply. Appreciate it 🙏🏼

@arielperez6400 Рік тому

I have a need to connect 3 usb a devices that must connect directly to my Mac mini to work properly. Will any of these docks expand my (1) 40gb usbc port on my mini to connect all 3 usb a ports as though they were directly connected to the mini?

@JerrySchulze Рік тому

yes, all of them, as long as they have enough usb ports for you.

@shoalins55 Рік тому

I returned my Caldigit. It would not wake up my laptop when it was closed. They have patches to help solve the problem, but it's not for all systems and it still didn't work for my 2019 Dell XPS running windows 11.