LMAOOO! And if they have a friend that is afraid as well, I have a 2060 to trade.

i have a 1660 ti, i will take your 3090 even without cash! limited offer

Better offer than @AresGodOfWar and @ Kitulous Gamedev Channel .... Id trade a 960, and id even throw in a 1070 with a blown voltage regulator lmao

I'll swap you 1660 ti and give you $250, how do ya like them apples

Stonks

when this craziness ends, get an RX 580, find the 8 GB version, at one point a used one was a hundred bucks

Same

@@dbunik44 you can get that now to hold you over. That or a 980ti , they're really good cards.

That defeats the purpose. Just use integrated.

Bro this comment is legit hilarious lol

"UNLIMITED POWER....... until total detonation!" lol

Power Supply: "He is too dangerous to be left alive!"

3090 with Amazon’s NW: IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE😤

In my opinion, that`s clearly an issue with Nvidia design for their boards, imagine a software (besides a intentional virus) that can literally fry/short parts of your hardware. I know that it looks like this but I don`t think the FPS boost on the menu is what`s causing the problem, but a lack of firmware power-delivery control, even over-clocking to the max, you should never be able to pass the safe threshold.

100% this.

This is what makes me think Jay has been scalping 3090's. He knows that software should never be able to affect the GPU. And yet he frames this videa as if its the GAMES fault and the GPU's are okay. Jay probably scalps 3090's and this is hurting his bottom line.

the *SHOULD* part should be capitalized as well. - sometimes there are hardware and code path interactions that can cause a card to operate outside of it's intended operational parameters. This happens relatively infrequently due to the protections put in place in both the electronics as well as the drivers, but when it *does* inevitably happen and it's discovered and investigated, the typical remediation is a software update, either to the gpu drivers or to particular cards' firmware depending on what's most appropriate. Occasionally something like this happens though, and it'll take some engineering to figure out the exact cause of the issue and come up with some kind of remediation. until then, the best you can do is avoid the game temporarily until such time as nvidia and/or AIB QA engineers can come up with a fix and if it DOES happen to you, share what your hardware loadout and run-time parameters were with the QA engineers and the public so they have more data points for figuring out what's going wrong.

@@tron-8140 Show me another game that does this to any GPU and I will accept your garbage theory.

yet all other gpus were fine......pppppssss it was the gpu.

@@hvdiv17 i hope that's a joke

It shouldn't be possible to kill GPUs through graphics APIs (DirectX / Vulkan). It's 100% the card's fault.

I had read this thing on Reddit. I didn't read but a few sentences but this guy was explaining similar issues he noticed with another game too

(Josh Discovers the Internet) "Donna! The internet people are going crazy." "No kidding!"

Reddit, sometimes I feel like I should go there and join a community. them I remember the dark side of reddit... And I don't.

Because they’re very fixable for people who have basic GPU mod/repair skills. But the design of the card is inexcusable.

lol

Yup!

Wow

wrong. bricked card = MSRP

F yeah, bring the pain!

Steve knows how to pop a cap in the ass of a manufacture who tries to burn down people's houses and not care about it, NZXT anybody? If the cause of this issue is manufacture related, hence EVGA, Steve should go after them too. But if its proven that the game itself is the cause, and no other games do it, then Amazon will need to pay up millions of dollars in a class action lawsuit to all the people who were effected, its only right. It will be interesting to see who's at fault here in the end.

@@stellarproductions8888 it's likely isn't an issue with evga specifically. Other aib cards were affected as well.

Tech Jesus. Going to bring the pain.

Yeah because Jay only knows enough to say "I dont know could be anything yuk yuk" and yet his title is set to make out that the GAME is at fault. I bet Jay Scalps 3090's.

Very true

Lol

same lmao just got a 1050ti let alone a fuckin 3090

🤣🤣 I fuck with this comment

@@oHunterr_ lmao you got a 1050ti I got a gt 710 🥲

@@charles7075 lmao mine's almost as bad I've got a GT1030

Some people do, just because you can't get one doesn't mean nobody does lol

Yes I do

@@kyler247 mate just shut up lol it’s a little joke

@@HandsomeManNamedTonyHave an MSI one in my backup system (their fans are terrible) Though I now have a 2060 in my laptop.

I'm rocking with 3090

You know what they say about the Devil and his greatest tricks, right?

can it run off with New World

It can, but at what cost?

I’ve come to talk to you again

Yup

Lol. I don't even own a pc anymore and I'm here watching this

@@TheCrazierz are you telling me that you have willingly left PCMR, is that even possible?

@@mohammednurul9380 I never could afford a top of the line gaming PC so I had to settle with a decent PC that I also needed (justified to myself) for school. Now I make pretty decent money so I recently decided to start buying parts in the next few months and build one. Hopefully 3080s will drop a bit more by the end of the year and that will be the last time I bu

My requirements of PCs tend to be more low-power and reliability based. I have a Ryzen GPU built in so that I can program in Vulcan but that's about it. Still, it's always interesting to find these gotchas. I fixed a stacking problem in COBOLII on an IBM mainframe because I'd already solved it in MC68K assembler on the Commodore Amiga.

@@TheCrazierz I've been there brother, never could afford one at a time, worked my ass off to get a laptop first and then eventually built a system, couldn't go all out, but got a mid tier, Thanks to Jay and some other UKpostsrs, I had the correct guidance to do it properly

Its that the same as a diesel runaway?

Yea let's all buy in amazon

As soon as he said Amazon, I thought that same thing.

Gotta fund that second space trip

ABAB

Fuck illegal monopolies, protected predatory capitalism, poor quality products, full price games that aren’t finished, FTP chaff plagued with Microtransactions, back door crypto mining and most of all the vampires at the apex of our societal pyramid.

Indeed Cody! One of his best.

Less people are playing that game too. Never heard of it

@@calvintrinh4869 It just came into beta... And it was played by hundred thousands

Well the thing is very less people have 3000 series card. Even my budget was for 2060 when 3000 series came out.

@@Gaukh everyone using a 3090 is for mining, for better games, and for other computing. The ones using it for this game are rich streamers who use the 3090 to play among us and flex. Thankfully, there are only around 50 people who fall under that category

@VantageGamingYT ez pz fix, don’t own a 3090

LoL

It's a great way to get people to sit through the ad too

@@TortoiseCashFlow lmao if you sit through any of his ads you are a 🤡

@@destruct1214 totally not like he's partly making a living of those ads. Why are you here again . . . ?

(Edit: I'm actually quite wrong about how this works but here's the original post for context:) "Its not really that simple as the way game engines work the Drivers have no authority or role to play in detecting game engine = runaway fps triggers throttling. Thermal throttling works but its a completely different part of the pipeline and any driver to Engine based solution would be Hyper specific and Nvidia would have to be responsible to tens of thousands of games a year. Its really Amazon's responsibility. This issue happened back when Starcraft II launched and its menu's had uncapped framerates for their 3d backgrounds."

That's not how that works at all.

I don’t think it’s NVIDIAs fault.

If just running a piece of software bricks your hardware, then the hardware was faulty all along.

Nvidia pretty much destroyed this market so id blame them for everything too.

Real men have rx 570, 3090 is for boys Edit : The 4gb version

I got one on my birthday lol

@@beliall1592 real men have the gtx 920m 😎

real men have intel hd4000 graphics

I got one.

I work qa for cars, some of the worst cockups happened because of stuff as minor as a dinged spacer or flaky coating

I used to work QA for a body armor manufacturer.

@@Emanouche and? Shot the boss during a demo trial?

@@riccardo1796 Haha, I wish. ;) I was often at odd with manufacturing, it was a start-up and the armors were being made by hand... so I often had to send back vest for minor defects which was frustrating them as they try to speed to reach certain quotas... but when you're dealing with people's lives, can't really afford to say: "Oh there's a minor defect here... but what are the odd of the person getting shot right on that spot, right? riiiiight?" lol

I spent some of my unemployment from covid on a 3070, so it's *almost* like I got it for free lmao

If a game breaks your gpu. It is the manufacturer's fault. Not the software developer. EVGA made shitty and defective 3090 GPU's.

@@Tiberious_Of_Elona my goodness. Quit spamming the comments section with your opinion. Besides, you're being seriously narrow-minded by saying that. While it may very well be EVGAs fault, WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE YET. So quit acting like you are a Saint because you don't think it's the developer.

Yea my evga 3090 ftw3 did this a few months ago, while playing second extinction…

I’ll be glad when the 16GB 3080 super comes out

Dude that would suck so bad

lolll

Even if a cap has blown (in a not old product) something must have caused it and would also have caused severe damage to the expensive silicon bits.

Pops like a zit

why i only browse reddit and have never made account. "The garbage on reddit" is 100% true

@Joshua N. that line should get you to go out and get some sun.

What is a reddit

I think it’s pretty much the same everywhere nowadays…

@@YosefCardoso I go on Reddit like playing an FPS game, team up with the good fellas and shoot down the shitposts.

Vrm and core does tho capacitors rezistors and small components doesent

Not every part that gets hot has a temperature sensor. If one of those unmonitored ones overheat due to badly designed layouts...yeah, it would have no way of knowing until it fails

It's nice to see an information like this. When Valorant was fairly new people are saying that their pc has been bricked because of it and for the anti cheat they say that in Genshin Impact you can get banned because of it but as a person who plays both on their official release I never got banned in genshin nor get my laptop bricked and it's 2 years already.

Too many FPS have always been bad

For now... Maybe sometime around RTX 9000 Series we'll be trying to get to 40k frames at 20k res.

something that never was a problem before the rtx 3080-90 really, the amount of fps those cards produce is insane in 1080p games that barely did 100fps on a 1080ti now run at 250-350fps it's crazy and makes your card run at max power 100% of the time, i had to limit all games to vsync or my pc becomes an inferno

@@earthtaurus5515 it was a joke. I type words on the internet in hope to make someone exhale air out their nostril a bit faster. It was a joke, I was joking.

Earth Taurus don’t gotta lie to kick it Cow farts aren’t going to end the world or cause “climate change” The climate is constantly “changing” That’s the only constant in life. CHANGE gosh people are thick.

not in the game, in the cp of a gpu

Source?

@@menzac8892 son of a tech is a UKposts channel. He has a recent video on this topic.

Me: **Sad poor gamer noises along**

*sad poor agreeing nods*

Me: “Buy another ya rich cucks!” Also me: **sad poor console gamer noises**

*sad poor gamer noises too*

Its nice that this doesn’t happen with my 970

Too much of anything is bad…

Pure FPS shouldn’t be the problem like jay said it’s probably to do with power but that being said if you hit a limit like that for extended periods it will put strain on the hardware, even in something like a car if you constantly redline it shit will go wrong. I’ve seen plenty of people learn that failsafes like limiters only work so many times

@@ziggybrady5170 a car is not the same here, a car you can hit those limits. GPUs have built in limits that cannot be over written even when OC'ing, the GPU shouldnt be allowing power draw beyond what the firmware is capable of. this means either the firmware is at fault (so EVGA is to blame) or the GPUs hardware quality was not "binned" high enough to support the firmware limitations and simply died due to poor hardware quality control (again EVGAs fault) Software cannot exceed firmware limitations unless you remove said firmware limits or the firmware/hardware is faulty or poor quality. Amazon cannot be to blame here, its 100% not possible for software to bypass firmware limitations.

@@123TheCloop Too many variables to pinpoint guilt, he said it himself we don’t know the exact hardware config and if the person is savvy, there’s plenty of virus that started as bugs that do just that software bypassing limitations. And I like the car analogy maybe not the same but that’s what analogies are for…

You're correct. This just brings out issues that aren't seen until the card is pushed to it's limit

Thats....not the issue here

@@youkosnake That.... could be the issue actually. Poor power supply mixed with too much demand

@@ErimlRGG it's really not. There's several people on the original reddit post who have used multiple psus of multiple different wattage, all with 3 individual 8pins. I'm patiently waiting on Steve's video to make a judgment. It's not one specific brand, it's not a specific psu issue like that, it hasn't happened with other games. It's through and through related to new world

Bingo. If that's true then those cards have SERIOUS firmware problems

Disagree. Hardware is nothing without software to utilize it. I've had unmodified Samsung phones brick from a software update issued by Samsung themselves. Or the computers who bricked from windows updates.

People are reporting it happening even when running at mid-tier settings. Like Jay said it's still early so that could be people s***posting, but even at max settings there's not really any legit reason for a game to spike to 100% load all of a sudden.

@@doctorwhodude82 Both the phone and windows computers can be recovered by reinstalling their software. In case of the phone that may require additional tools. In any case, that's a software problem. It's highly unlikely for a game to brick hardware. The game does not get to interact with the hardware closely enough to do any damage at all.

Remember that hardware is still physical, electricity flows faster than OCP can react, there will be damage every time OCP is triggered (with the OCP damaged as well, much like a circuit breaker can only handle so much abuse). If the software is sending a signal for the GPU to hoard as many resources as it can as fast as possible, that's the fault of the software. Personally I think all games should have a frame cap. I remember years ago (and they probably still do it) when Minecraft players would boast about their games running at 350fps at a time when 60hz monitors were ubiquitous. All that power being completely wasted for absolutely no reason. Now that 144hz monitors is the new 60hz, why should any piece of software request more frames than the monitor attached to it can display, especially here in the age of two-way-communication between tech when my computer knows exactly how fast my monitor is because the monitor tells the operating system what it is.

I never heard of the spikes in Star Citizen being so bad it resulted in killed cards though. There's clearly been a massive oversight here by someone.

Someone said limiting the fps kinda keeps things working

@@squatmufu6117 on Star citizens release, I don't believe the 30 series was out. Nvidia has high power demands with the 3090 and 3080 Tie. So it's just a compounding issue

@@squatmufu6117 the massive oversight is on nvidia's end, they should have failsafes in the drivers and firmware that don't allow a frame spike to melt the card. jay should know this..

@@StrikeReyhi Agreed, at least if it has been ruled out that these users somehow modified their GPUs or did something else that helped create the situation.

Something I've noticed since you brought that up is my XSX is a damn space heater if I'm playing a game or pause it and do other things. If the game is closed and you sit at the home screen the console runs cool.

Borderlands 2 fps cap starts as soon as the game loads. Love it. Unfortunately it doesn't go higher than 120 fps.

Mordakk mate - NVIDIA are supposed to design cards that don't commit suicide when they see a random phone game! Stop blaming everybody else it is squarely NVIDIA who fucked this up. Notice no other GPU manufacturers are seeing this.

Would love this to be standardized across the industry - as in an actual integrated game engine feature, because we can't rely on the devs to consider this kind of stuff, let alone implement it without problems. I would keep my menus locked at 30 just so I didn't have to hear my system cranking air in menus.

No one is blaming anybody it's a suggestion. Also how in the hell was NVIDIA or EVGA or others are supposed to know that Amazon would make a game that would create this situation. You're the one that is blaming NVIDIA.

This is literally EVGA's fault for making defective GPU's. But everyone is trying to blame it on New World. Shameless.

@@Tiberious_Of_Elona Scroll to 2:52 and listen carefully

@@Tiberious_Of_Elona man didn't even watch the video

@@Tiberious_Of_Elona Did you even WATCH the video for longer than 60 seconds?

@@fallbright So far he is right. It is only affecting EVGA. My brother owns RTX 3090 ASUS TUF OC and my cousin owns MSI RTX 3090 Gaming Trio and none of them have any issues. They have been playing for over 10 hours on high settings. I on the other hand have the EVGA 3090 and it got bricked at 6:40am. I read the reddit post carefully and it is so far EVGA GPUs who are getting bricked.

dude I just watched one of his videos, and this wasn't there. your fast :D

I was just watching that video when this one popped up. Crazy stuff.

Thats true. How is that even posible, a game destroying your top dolla gpu...

i hit jay and blindrun on twitter about blindrun being live and his vod and they should get togather and see about this seeing as jay does have the conections with evga

Hmmm. The vsync in the options may not take effect until your in-game. I also think this has something to do with the card pushing itself to 1.081v but I'm not sure and I'm definitely not experimenting with my 3080Ti. I've heard of this occuring with other low load games like Valorant. Not sure what's going on but apparently new voltage regulators on revision 1 of EVGA's 3090 solves these issues.

Nvidia has sold more 3090s than the other rest of the 30XX line combined.

@@RNG-999 i have a 3090 so this is good information to know. Even if the information is only relevant to a minority of people content creators shouldn’t withhold information as important as this.

@@RNG-999 not really. It's interesting news on its own. I don't even have an Nvidia GPU and I'm interested.

Doesn't make it any less important to be honest. Stuff like this SHOULD get this kind of attention.

@@RNG-999 Well, actually i have a 5700XT and still watched the whole video 'cause it's entertaining.

it's not that the game is bypassing the safety protocols, when you put that much strees on electronics eventually they will give up and your card will die, no matter what, too much current, volts, watts, will destroy any safety protocol it's matter of time

There is no way an AMD product these days would allow for such a basic catastrophe to occur like that. Adrenaline drivers have a hard-coded power and FPS limit, it would not even run code that would fry the card. This is squarely at Nvidias feet.

So far played ALOT of the NW beta and no problems at all. 🤞

My 3070 only hits 65 C when playing and streaming for me lol I’m good here.

I heard some loud sounds from my pc room as i was smoking, i dont know what they were and always thought it was my desk under the load of the pc… but this maybe the problem

Just as soon as they can source you one ;)

My 2060 died twice. Cost me a fortune in shipping and import duty. Wasnt too bad though as the 2nd 2060 was replaced with a 2070.

Actually with the 3090 they are making you pay tons shipping wise.

Absolutely hilarious

This market is fucked thanks to people buying these cards.

@@BonusCrook the whales are getting what they deserve

@Anthony Lawrence lol

Clickbait is as clickbait does

"I've been to Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq... and I can say without hyperbole that this is a million times worse than all of them put together." ~Kent Brockman

Fallout 76 was doing that as well.

And L.A Noir was bricking XBox 360s

Anthem bricked a lot of PS4's

Anthem gave me so much issues. I'd play for not even 10 minutes and my PC would shut down. Turns out my PSU was bad.

Games don't brick PCs. Badly build PCs brick themselves when you ask them to do their job.

This is Jeff's plan to get himself to Mars.

Prob mining in the background or something

@@crash6674 someone would've caught them by now.

Exactly, it's insane to blame the program for this.

Because new tech 3090 is bad, performance is higher but at what cost? 360 watts tdp, u can run 2 gpus with that power. Technology advancement should mean efficiency in energy etc.

to long for mobile but nice :)

Thanks, don't have to waste 20 minutes of my life 👍

Tell that to Gladd who bought his new and it bricked his

Not at all what he explained in the video.

when mining all 3090 memories reach 105C or more. Which means the junction temps are reaching 110-120 degrees celsius. So yeah... Shit's gonna brick. It's almost the same with the 3080. The TUF version which has really good vram cooling reaches 100C.

Whew! Petting my brand new rx 6900 xt with fps limiter set on radeon software (as the Nvidia homeys go down in flames).

If it hasn't happened again it was likely just a random power spike on that one particular instance. Even a 3090 wouldn't be going into the 1000's of FPS that New Worlds is causing cards to go into. 2 very different issues at play here.

That can be many things

Could be anything

The abbreviations used in these will include OS: Operating System CPU: Central Processing Unit GPU: Graphics Processing Unit PSU: Power Supply Unit RAM: Random-Access Memory (For those who are computer illiterate) In some sorts you have a similar experience. Your situation was caused by Overload/Overheating protection that is basically the suicide hotline for your hardware. FS2020 Is a very demanding game, I play it myself so I do know. In your case what might have happened was either your CPU/GPU/RAM or PSU had an overload on rendering or had too high of a temperature so in order for your PC to "Play it safe" your OS and CPU will share the info collected and instruct the system to shutdown immediately. Once again under normal circumstances it won't cause anything physical to break but I suggest incase it happens again to then figure out a better cooling solution for your hardware or even upgrading the PSU (if it isn't a good PSU) and if it still causes another emergency shutdown I will suggest lowering some of your "display" settings. In this video it is basically explained how the GPU had no restrictions. In a simple point of view, you are an athlete and you always want to run at the fastest speed possible right? In order for you to not hurt yourself physically the races you run has speed restrictions and they have a device on you to make sure you don't run faster than what you can handle. The situation with New Worlds is now the hosts of the race removes your restrictions and now you attempt at running so fast your heart can't keep up with the blood load so your body essentially just gives up and refuses to continue being by veins popping, breaking bones or even tearing a muscle so bad that there is no connection between your muscle cells. This is what happens to the 3090s they had/have no restrictions on them or even there could be a bug removing it. The GPU decides "okay this is my time to shine" where it would demand so much power and would put so much load on itself that it is *_literally_* breaking itself apart. The reason for this is to not only inform you but others aswell. The situation to witch you experienced is not similar instead it is a situation of the CPU and OS saving you thousands! So next time be sure to thank your PC for not killing itself and reward it by replacing the thermal paste, liquid and by cleaning out all those heat causing dust!

This is literally EVGA's fault for making defective GPU's. But everyone is trying to blame it on New World. Shameless.

G shit

If these software can hurt your hardware, then you bought defective hardware.

Buncha pussies smh. I put nails through my GPU and in my cereal while doing that.

And also playing bdo on remastered simultaneously on a hot summer day

And roll their PC up in a thick heated blanket on max setting while doing so.

I was thinking the exact same thing! Why the FU@K would they do that? LMAO Maybe it was a rich kid or someone that doesn't know anything about computers and can afford to just go buy a new anything when their stuff breaks IDK.

@@guyincognito82 because 95% of the time litterly nothing happens?

@@guyincognito82 Lol, why wouldn't they?! PCs crash due to bugs in drivers and OS. It doesn't damage them. Games don't damage PCs. This case is a very rare exception. NVIDIA fucked up (or people building the PCs).

Also for sure listen to Jay. Don’t pig tail these cards that spike with such high draw. I even ran two separate delivery wires to my 3070. It just makes no sense to take the risk. This is why 24 pin connectors are standard on motherboards. It gives the motherboard all of the leeway in the world to draw spikes of power.

That's what I was thinking. My world's are colliding!

He’s mainly known for destiny 2 but he has branched out over the last year to a variety of other games. Gladds a good dude

@@blackandbluedress8500 true. Hard to full time destiny when there isn't a ton of new stuff to do haha

@@im2shady4u13 But to be fair. Gladd plays like 18 hours everyday, so no game has enough content for him. :)

@@AtlasNYC_ yeah it’s pretty cool😁

Unfortunately the analogy he used is wrong! Jay has sent you down the garden path on how the software side of this stuff works.

@@MrAlternateTheory Makes me laugh, couldn’t be any wronger 😂

I know you posted this over a year ago, but I'm just chiming in because I suspect you're right to be wary of the Flight Sim menu. A month or two ago, I had the game sitting in the menu for ~45 minutes while I was doing other stuff around the house. The computer crashed and I was never able to revive it...I narrowed it down to either CPU or MoBo failure, so I ended up just doing a full upgrade/rebuild. Up to that point, I didn't know much, since that was before I started following tech channels/sites, and a friend had built my first PC for me. So naturally I wasn't running Afterburner and I can't confirm how the failure occurred...but it is suspiciously similar. GPU (GTX 1060) was fine though. Just thought I should give you an update from the future.

He does 😂

@@AmirZeven I have 3090,

I have one. It's the Asus Strix model.

Dude, it's a joke. Why are you guys so serious!! @@SIedgeHammer83 👎

all 11 people with this card who bought it for gaming deserve to have their GPU bricked.... just saying.

Yea, no, also a dev. What you are describing is basically the state in which consoles use to work (well, not quite since archs have changed a ton, but everything busy at the same time for prolonged periods, was the gold standard). I don't really understand jay's position here, even if we go back to his example with the cars, the "game" can have the foot pegged at what he thinks is the gas pedal, but at the end, that's not the gas pedal, is just a system call. Then the system will try to "press the gass pedal" on the game's behalf, if it can, it'll do it, but at any point here, the hardware can interrupt to say "o hey, i can't continue like this", and the OS will handle the reply and if the game is extremely shitty, in windows you'll get a BSoD. The fact that the card kills itself and doesn't generate the interrupt is already a fault of the card's design. So could be dirty power, could be that the card allows itself to run outside spec for a longer time, could be a ton of things, but you can not do that much damage through software if the hardware doesn't allow you to, and that is already an issue for the hardware maker. So, it works fine with most cards except just a couple, o is the game's fault. No, that ain't gonna fly. More credence to dirty power due to incorrect 8-pin connection.

@@omi6816 I have support tickets of HW that went into constant TDR & BSOD because we were accidentally saturating the pcie bus. It was low number of HW but it was happening. We tried NV engineers repro the problem but no luck HW design is very wild out there, and it's not uncommon for MB vendors to bend or break specs to save costs, which is for example the reason VR-over-USB-only didn't happen or why lots of MBs can't support DirectStorage. But I agree dirty power delivery is likely to blame, and I also don't understand Jay's stance on blaming the game. User space SW cannot break HW other than through expected wear (e.g. SSDs exceeding TBW). Period. If it does, then it's a HW flaw, incorrect firmware default thresholds, or faulty installation

Agreed 100%. Many real life objects have build in protections (Overpressure, overheat, overvolt etc) to prevent things from damaging the product. This is not amazons fault, this is NVidia's fault for allowing amazon access to this type of damage.

@@AarPlays I agree 110% with both of you. I read most forums and stuff on the net about this issue and is scary how people blame the game. The game no mater how poorly designed should not be able to brick the game using normal API calls from user space. This game just seems to highlight a defect that the EVGA 3090 FTW3 seems to suffer from, possibly other cards to but right now thats seems to be to a lesser degree or just false positives.

This was my immediate thought. There is NO WAY for a game engine to manipulate the power\voltage limit of a GPU, that's on whoever wrote the vbios.

@@AarPlays God forbid it could be both at fault. I fail to see how the failures of one excuses the oversight of the other.

Jay said the people that got their cards bricked could have been overclocking their cards and that could be an ok for the vbios and firmware I’m just saying from experience with tech y’all know better

Shit cards

@@laoch5658 Not shit cards, the matter were the card manufacturer had use those cards to mining bitcoins before they leave the factory, they claim it was stress test, my ass, they are overclocking the cards to barely dying and have them be ruined before any customer take them.

@@Saviliana sounds like a conspiracy theory maybe do some checking on that?

I don't think you realize how much the software can controle. Yes firmware should have some limits that should prevent damage, but if nvidia gave the wrong limit guidelines the firmware could be wrong. And it was never noticed until this kind of edge case cropped up. There's no reason for the launcher to start running your card like it's minning bitcoin as soon as you click it. In my mind this is a continuation of the capacitor conspiracy that happened at launch of these cards...

OS protect your hardware ... If he wants, W95 had not protection at all on hardware access, you can killed hardware from software at the time. So, I don't agree, even if nowadays software behavior are mainly safeguarded by your OS 😁

@@SquintyGears the game developer doesn't have that much access to the card - they're just making DirectX calls (or Vulkan/OpenGL/insert other API here). If the firmware is wrong... that's still controlled by the hardware manufacturer. The driver... still NVIDIA. If userspace software can kill a card, that's definitely an issue for the hardware manufacturers to handle.

@@SquintyGears Everything you said might be true (except the software control part as I work in OS development) but still in all occasions this would be a fail by the Hardware manufacturer (like the capacitors) or nvidia respectivley for provinding the wrong parameters for the firmware - all of this is none of the game devs business. It's also true that the launcher should not have hit the cards like that. But this should've at MAX crashed your machine, not damage it.

Surprised CommieTube even allowed it. Any time I've tried, it gets insta deleted. 🙄

the word "triggered" nowadays is also offensive so be cautious about using it 🤨 people are turning into bigger and bigger snowflakes every day

@@Kitulous UKpostsrs do the great majority of deleting comments.

@@thezen9 not really. If you say a banned word, it will appear your comment went through. But it will be gone when you refresh. Most YTers cant keep up with the 1000 comments per minute they get through all their videos..

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