BLIZZARD! It's time to fix the EXPLOSIVE AFFIX once and for all

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Grumpsy

Grumpsy

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Discussing the Explosive Affix as it currently stands, as well as the new changes coming in patch 10.1, where explosive orbs will spawn less frequently but have significantly more health. In higher keys where time is a major issue, explosives are dealt with mainly by the healer, who has a very stressful job this week.
It's a very simple fix: Give players a small stacking buff (damage/healing/haste) that lasts for 10 seconds if they kill an explosive.
Let me know what you think about the affix, the changes, and any ideas you guys have!
#worldofwarcraft #dragonflight #mythicplus

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@SMARTasYOU
@SMARTasYOU Рік тому
My guildy had the idea, that if you kill the orb it does aoe damage to the mobs. Or for the new orbs, every % of health say 10% dealt, it'll pulse aoe damage onto the mobs. Thought it was a neat idea, especially if that aoe damage counts as your own on meters. Also curious why they don't experiment making the orbs similar to the protoform barrier from fated raids in SL just without the shield on a mob part. The more you contribute to killing the orb, the bigger your buff 🤷
@jacktihs2963
@jacktihs2963 Рік тому
Was actually doing a HoV key as a healer, and during Eye of the Storm, not a single person targeted the explosive orb outside the shield. In a healing moment like that, you simply can't also do that orb. In Nokhud I do the orbs, but then don't expect me to go nuts on interrupts or purges, that's a "when I got a moment free", but groups expect you to do ALL of that. So far, I really hate most of the new affixes, they're just not fun!
@ninja24able
@ninja24able Рік тому
In bfa dps was doing the orbs, but it was such a dps loss that it became a dead week for pushing keys, making them ez to kill made it a good week once everyone figured out that it was best to let the healer kill them all. What u want to do would make explosive the best week to push, unless they gave all the level 7 affixes a dps buff, and it would affect the meta a lot, class like sub rogue would get a huge dps increase from something like this and hurt specs with more steady dps out puts like bm hunter
@Saldio
@Saldio Рік тому
Haha, yeah. What you said about having to do all that at once. As a shaman this week: thundershock, whack explosives, keep your team up, maybe kick too, and damage in-between. I get really tired after two dungeons on explosive week. They seem dead set on not giving any sort of boon for navigating affixes though, other than "you don't fail". If it was a net DPS gain to get explosives the DPS would fight each other to hit them.
@MeatballMoovies
@MeatballMoovies Рік тому
It is exhausting at times... Trouble is... If you fail the explosive go off and it's just dmg so also on the healer 😢 you can't win either way with explosive unless they drastically change something 🤞🤞🤞
@ZuhexEntertainment
@ZuhexEntertainment Рік тому
I really dont understand why the kiss/curse idea is not taken up by blizzard, sure, people are gonna push into higher keys, but what is the problem? Who cares, really if the highest timed key is an SBG 34 instead of a 29? The system was made for infinite scaling. One thing i would change from Grumpsy's suggestion tho is make the kiss part of affixes flat damage or healing, never a specific secondary, as that would make certain specs way more incentivized to pick the orbs up and would lead to the same problem as before. For example, if it were haste and not flat dmg%, rogues would never touch the orbs. Etc.
@mikirules2
@mikirules2 Рік тому
awesome video, do you by any means streams keys? i'd love to learn from you streaming
@g0gool_
@g0gool_ Рік тому
Most of the affixes are healer affixes. Dd‘s have only one job and its looking pathethic into the screen and press 1,2,3
@olawfhjorth9985
@olawfhjorth9985 Рік тому
If they wanna keep the wack a mole then they could spawn individual orbs, immune to everyone else’s damage. If they want a big orb it needs to one-shot the group or meta will be to leave it alone and let healer heal. I think a stacking buff will make the affix too technical for many pugs. It will affect logs which will start PI discussions and so forth.
@ninja24able
@ninja24able Рік тому
They should keep the health on the orbs the way they are now, and cap them at 3 at a time at most and give it a 30sec cool down
@MeatballMoovies
@MeatballMoovies Рік тому
Kiss curse is fun but does have the effect of causing higher keys to sometimes be easier... I know blizz was against that... I had a thought about the "substantially more health" part... Wouldn't it be cool if the explosive scaled with the size of the pull in terms of health rather than numbers... I means you can pull big and burst still but maybe you are targeting the explosive and cleaving mobs as a team rather than afflicting the healer with another affix. You can still pull big around CDs just as you would but you would have to pay attention to the explosive rather as you say 4 people ignoring it and the healer stressing out about loads of orbs and massive dmg on pull.
@GrumpsyTV
@GrumpsyTV Рік тому
I def understand your point and Blizzard doesn't want keys to be "easier" but... if you're a game dev, what do you want your players to say? 1) hell yeah it's push week let's do lots of keys, or 2) man this week sucks let's take some time off. They should be pleased if people are enjoying the affixes, even if it makes things "easier," people doing 30 or 31 SBG or whatever.
@MeatballMoovies
@MeatballMoovies Рік тому
@@GrumpsyTV absolutely... I mean don't get me wrong I think encrypted with the kiss curse was amazing and I'm all for it!! Rather I'm thinking from what blizz have said so far.... I do wonder if they're worried can't they just buff the auras for each level then rebalanced with the affix kiss effect... A 7 key is x% harder on top of the usual scaling but if you play the affix well it's y% easier than the usual scaling. Meaning of you play the affix well you can make the dungeon easier than it would normally be but only by a small margin... Bad play means it's even harder than normal
@MeatballMoovies
@MeatballMoovies Рік тому
I just love that there's so much debate so ideas are being thrown around that hopefully the devs can find what's best for all 😉
@vanguelisk
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If new meta turns out to be,let orb explode and have healer heal the damage ,then I m not gonna play during explosive weeks.
@raffisautopflege2091
@raffisautopflege2091 Рік тому
True
@Amphroxia
@Amphroxia Рік тому
if blizzard is really against the kiss/curse idea for some reason, at least make the orb go away by walking over it or looking at it (like the palegos soulbind power from shadowlands) targeting 1 orb in a pack of 20 mobs is janky af and super annoying. obviously orbs should spawn further away if you go for the "looking at it" route. im also not a fan of blizzards "1 big bomb" idea, unless it takes dmg from aoe effects too. The switching to it is the real problem here, at least in my opinion.
@bertsvello
@bertsvello Рік тому
I get what you're saying trying to fix the affix but I'd ague that it's rather pointless. Why bother with affixes at this point... Dungeons are different from one another already and it feels really bad having to change playstyles according to affixes rather than according to the proper dungeon. Just leave the Tyrannical/Fortified alternating weeks and let it be (one week bosses are harder next week mobs are harder - this way we could scale up M+ difficulty with the key per say)
@smiley-xh3hp
@smiley-xh3hp Рік тому
please get mouseover macros, cant watch this gameplay. but otherwise great video! :)
@barney8046
@barney8046 Рік тому
I think they only put these type of affix in the game to make people get so annoyed they pay for boosts to some of these websites (that blizz leaves open) and i'm sure they are somehow affiliated with. Why else would they add them in the game, there so boring and slow and painful, why would you want to pay for something each month only to have 1 week that is really good out of that month. Something else going on there
@KC-py5vq
@KC-py5vq Рік тому
I think it’s so cancerous that dps and tank can just flat out ignore an entire affix because it was deemed a “healers job” as if healing isn’t the hardest role in the game already.
@dildobaggins692
@dildobaggins692 Рік тому
I’d just rather have more orbs at the same health they have been.
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