Boeing 737MAX BlowOut!! The Scandal behind Alaska Airlines flight 1282
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Imagine, one second you are sitting happily in your aircraft seat, maybe watching a movie or chatting with your friends and then, all of a sudden, you are staring straight out through a gaping hole in the cabin as your aircraft starts rapidly descending down towards the ground below.
And now picture that this is all happening because someone, several months earlier just forgot to do something...
Stay tuned.
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Aviation Investigation Preliminary Report - Alaska Airlines flight 1282
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NTSB B-Roll - Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 Boeing 737-9 MAX
• NTSB B-Roll - Alaska A...
ATC Audio captures Alaska Airlines Pilot Sounds Alarm after Window blows off flight 1282 Boeing 737
• ATC Audio captures Ala...
Life INSIDE the World's LARGEST Airplane Factory- Boeing Mega Factory
• Life INSIDE the World'...
737 MAX Put Together Quickly HD
• 737 MAX Put Together Q...
FSO410 - B737 Ditching Emergency Evacuation Drill
• FSO410 - B737 Ditching...
#iAmAlaska_ Larry
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Alaska Airlines air to air footage over Washington
• Alaska Airlines air to...
Production & Industrial Engineering at Boeing Commercial Airplanes
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Building Boeing’s Next-Generation 737 Airplane
• Building Boeing’s Next...
A look inside Boeing’s 737 MAX factory
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After Door Plug Incident Alaska Airlines' Boeing 737 Max 9 Returns to Service- Takeoff from PHX
• After Door Plug Incide...
Brand New Alaska Airlines Boeing 737 MAX 9 [N929AK] Takeoff from PDX
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Panel of Alaska Airlines plane blows out mid-flight forcing emergency landing
• Panel of Alaska Airlin...
Inside the Alaska Airlines’ Emergency Landing- A Timeline - WSJ
• Inside the Alaska Airl...
Teenager's shirt torn off when door plug blew out on Alaska Airlines flight from Portland
• Teenager's shirt torn ...
Panel blows out midair on Alaska Airlines flight
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Emergency descend!! Cockpit video
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Spirit Global Factory Solutions (no audio)
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Our People, Our Products - Boeing Commercial Airplanes 2018 Highlights
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Boeing in Germany - From Böing to Boeing
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Join Boeing and the International Aerospace Community at the Paris Air Show
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Spirit AeroSystems Announces Collaboration with Wichita State University
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SpiritAerosystems - Subang
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Spirit AeroSystems Global Digital Logistics Center (GDLC)
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Spirit Offers IAM-Represented Workers New Contract
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The Future of Electrical Engineering
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Boeing 737 MAX Advanced Technology winglet design unveiled
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Boeing completes first flight of the 737 MAX
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The New Boeing 737 MAX 10
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How Did a Boeing Jet End Up With a Big Hole?
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The fuselage blowout on Alaska Airlines’ Boeing 737 MAX 9: What we know
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@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
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@jordanianman57505 2 місяці тому
Ok
@user-ml4wf6qc8e 2 місяці тому
Yes
@Jonathan-ei7vp 2 місяці тому
I'm so confused by the way you mix trustworthy, indepth technical content with an obvious scam ad
@sparky6086 2 місяці тому
The springs may be left in, so the door plug doesn't rattle or make other noises, as the plane pressurizes or de-pressurizes?
@sparky6086 2 місяці тому
"There's plenty of bolts in this aircraft. What's a few bolts here or there among friends?"
@danielschein6845 2 місяці тому
Former engineer here. There is nothing more frustrating than dealing with a company leadership team that’s hell bent on getting the product out the door and doesn’t want to hear about quality problems. I don’t know who said it originally but it’s impossible to make people understand something when their livelihood depends on them not understanding it. I’ve never worked in aviation but I’m guessing this is what was happening at Boeing.
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
Yep, I understand what you mean
@Justin-vi8dr 2 місяці тому
I think we are getting into an age where leaders of technology companies should have both an economics and technical background of sufficient level to become leaders in these type of companies. Look at all the Elon Musk companies, they shine because their leader and board have both backgrounds and they are up against companies with board members with only an economic/organizational background.
@traceymeek1238 2 місяці тому
IS happening. Not was happening. Boeing still hasn't fixed their safety culture. 😠
@gcorriveau6864 2 місяці тому
I worked in aviation for several decades. The last 'influencer' that safety-oriented folks like engineers, mechanics and pilots always had to sway the management to see things there way was the FAA/(oversight authority). Recent moves to 'pass this responsibility) to company themselves is the worst form of leaving 'the wolves in charge of the sheep!'
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 місяці тому
haste makes waste
@TecraX2 2 місяці тому
"When the Cabin Door closes, another one opens!" - Boeing
@Denity17 Місяць тому
😆😆😆😆
@annemoar5743 Місяць тому
😂
@usual-suspect 25 днів тому
Touchè! Boeing plays GOD, much to the chagrin of passengers.
@dennishunter5552 8 днів тому
😂😭
@liberatumplox625 2 місяці тому
Careful dude, it's starting to look like Boeing REALLY don't like criticism. Stay safe.
@MsElke11 Місяць тому
RIP JOHN BARNETT whose wife says he was DEFINITELY NOT SUICIDAL. I hope MENTOUR keeps safe and also does a BIO on the late whistleblower who dedicated 30 years of his life to BOEING. Such INGRATES!
@Aviationanimations Місяць тому
lol! Mentour Pilot: "Ok fam! Time for a quick vacation to Paris! Can we find an airline with an Airbus instead of Boeing? Oh yeah, I see FrenchoPanchoSwiss Airlines flies with an Airbus A340, yay let's do it!" Boeing's CEO and the board of investors: "I want you to switch the plane to the Dreamliner before Mentour boards it, y'all monkeys understand?!! Make the 787 look and sound like an Airbus A380 if needed, I don't want any suspicions. I'm sorry for the innocent pax, but we can't keep taking in such bad publicity like this!"
@theengineerguy8726 Місяць тому
@@Aviationanimationsmy guy he's a 737 pilot
@liberatumplox625 Місяць тому
@@MsElke11 Barnett himself said: "If anything happens, I'm not suicidal."
@JanR1995 Місяць тому
Bullshit. Stop with these conspiracy theories.
@waynez1025 2 місяці тому
How is it possible that one guy with a full-time job and being a pilot and evidently being married and having a couple kids can put out this kind of quality work? This is the type of work that TV networks used to do. And it probably took dozens of people. Great graphics, quality, sound, data, charts and video. And more importantly, the Mentour Is able to add his own insight and perspective. Totally entertaining and educational. Absolutely top-notch work! Thank you very much!
@Svabre Місяць тому
I guess it makes it even better when you consider that every video he makes is another lesson learned for him personally and, while I’m sure he is a wonderful pilot already, this only makes him better. Always good to see pilots look into these things and learn from them, even if the scenario is handled perfectly by the crew.
@johnquinn7794 Місяць тому
It’s the accent.
@articlered2334 Місяць тому
He will have a team doing this as he’s that big a channel
@casedistorted Місяць тому
I see these super suck up comments way too much. I’m sure Mentour has a team of editors and graphics guys who make this stuff while he narrates and edits the script? Mentour is a pilot and a trainer, would be too much work to do this channel alone.
@Puddleduck1 Місяць тому
@@Svabreoddly this is how I feel with my own career. I've been a senior Nurse in the UK for 14 years, I watch "horror story" videos and learn from other people's eff ups!! I know it's not quite the same and some things are so far fetched that they almost seem impossible but my biggest take away has been how many "small, avoidable" things soon add up to one disaster!! Although I don't often learn something I didn't already know, it's taught me "what NOT to do" in a lot of situations and I think that's probably just as vital! We can always learn and improve and ego has no place when lives are at stake!
@churchofmarcus 2 місяці тому
The company I work for has a process called Stop Work, where ANYONE detecting a material problem in a product can halt production within a week, and until all the manufacturing and design engineers agree there is no longer a problem. This keeps us from shipping dangerous errors or stuff that will be rejected and scrapped. I believe we got the idea from Toyota. I'm shocked an airplane manufacturer does not operate in a similar fashion.
@prikas4313 2 місяці тому
Boeing used to operate similarly (prior to the McDonnell Douglas merger really) and on multiple occasions actually halted production based on feedback from engineers and test pilots, which drove up the cost (hence why they no longer allow this) but insured a quality product. Ultimately the financialization of Boeing after the merger completely uprooted this culture of open communication and reporting, and unfortunately the regulators over in the FAA are primed to dote on Boeing no matter what.
@h8GW 2 місяці тому
@prikas4313 Another nail to add to the many other nails on the coffin that holds Douglas's reputation.
@HenryLoenwind 2 місяці тому
Boing has a process that's intended to achieve about the same. They would enter line items into a system and unless they were cleared, the plane wouldn't pass final inspection. That system would have caught the issue, but for "door has been opened" it required "check that door has been closed", while for "door has been removed" it had "make sure door is bolted in". And naturally, someone signed off on "door has been closed"...it had been closed afterall...
@davecrupel2817 2 місяці тому
Sounds like Toyota's "Jidoka" system. Stop the line, Assess the 7 Whys. Why is this the way it is? Why is that allowed to be the way it is? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Tracing a problem to it's very beginning. Filling every hole in the swiss cheese. THEN permitting the assembly line to continue.
@were-all-human9427 2 місяці тому
@@prikas4313 its just about $$$ - we, the pax are expendable - cost of doing business - FAA >not even ganna bother...
@Nefville 2 місяці тому
Petter reading a bedtime story: "Hansel and Gretel were walking peacefully through the woods... but that was all about to change...."
@sarthakmohanty997 2 місяці тому
...when the Fire Nation attacked.... sorry wrong story
@Maymaysmaymays Місяць тому
The witch coming in for a landing on her broomstick lining up with runway 02
@juanrinon6307 Місяць тому
"And they had bread in their bags, which is going to become very important in what is about to happen. Remember that."
@atsipan Місяць тому
😂😂😂
@ilgattooo Місяць тому
They were hit by a boeing door
@gilbertotrevisan6538 2 місяці тому
As a former aircraft mechanic i found incredible how those mechanics ends up with a bunch of parts left on the bench without realizing the mishapp
@rossdmcc 2 місяці тому
As a former employee of Spirit Aerosystems I could tell you stories! LOL Things are seldom as they are suppose to be.
@ryanlittleton5615 2 місяці тому
@@rossdmccWe got time lol.
@dans_Learning_Curve 2 місяці тому
@@rossdmcc I'm listening 🎧!
@Bob.martens 2 місяці тому
@@rossdmcc please, elaborate...
@ShanGamer1981 2 місяці тому
They dont care and half ass the job
@jansteno3428 2 місяці тому
I am a consultant specializing in quality assurance and Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (FMEA), primarily within the automotive industry. The fact that the process did not require a check for the proper installation of these bolts after the reassembly of the door plug is simply bewildering to me. Frankly, this is scary.
@alexstone66 2 місяці тому
The production values are so insane. The simulation preparation and filming adds so much. The motion graphics also make things really easy to understand.
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
Glad you liked it
@ofacid3439 2 місяці тому
I can only imagine what would've happen if the door plug would hit the stabilizer or the fin. And things would be much more sinister if those seats were occupied and the passengers haven't fastened
@daveselbow9128 2 місяці тому
@@ofacid3439 what's the problem - you never done a HALO jump?...
@patricktuggles4815 2 місяці тому
Right
@bikeny 2 місяці тому
For me, though, it's the music he has playing during the dialogue track that is extremely distracting to paying attention. I want to listen to him, not any music. So, please, Petter, I ask you, please refrain from playing any music while you are speaking. It is not as backgroundy as one might think. Thanks.
@kentslocum 2 місяці тому
I gotta say, it sure is crazy how many weird things happen to Portland International Airport. An off-duty pilot trying to shut down the engines. A door plug flying off the fuselage. A mysterious man jumping out with a parachute. Sounds like Portland is living up to its unofficial motto of "Keep Portland Weird."
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
That’s true!
@stevewausa 2 місяці тому
It must be our carpet.
@Niteowlette 2 місяці тому
😂 Gotta love Portland, tho'! ❤
@sosaix3545 2 місяці тому
Portland can't even come up with their own motto - they stole it from Austin. KEEP AUSTIN WEIRD has been around FAR longer.
@PolakInHolland 2 місяці тому
Portland is an absolute liberal shit hole.
@kyleb3754 2 місяці тому
I heard two words - "easier, and cheaper". And that explains absolutely everything.
@jeffmilroy9345 2 місяці тому
Nah - whistle-blower is the phrase to look for. Easier and cheaper are simply reality at every large company. Compensate whistle-blowers richly with an insurer based reward scheme and you will see decent safety records restored PDQ. Think about it - if you had the opportunity to turn squealer and get what amounts to a rich pension automatically - no corner cutter would be safe. Both shuttles and the astronaut crews would be alive today. And "US" products would actually have US engineering drawings instead of some bogus Chinese cad drawings with no revision block data.
@mrc8683 Місяць тому
@@jeffmilroy9345 We used to joke about Boeing doing everything FASTER, QUICKER, CHEAPER, BETTER. It finally happened that the McDonnell - Douglas leadership team reached their desired goal with almost deadly consequences.
@paulstelian97 Місяць тому
@@mrc8683 Well at least Sully gave a harsh, public criticism.
@JakubDowgird 2 місяці тому
27:03 What I love about what you do is that you give a first-hand pilot’s perspective on everything you talk about. And this „It would be good if they told us that” part is a great example 😂
@sarahfrith1984 2 місяці тому
The fact their only mistake was not pulling the circuit breaker can be forgiven I think, they got everyone down on the ground safely, great piloting
@mangos2888 2 місяці тому
You think that was a mistake? Ha! It was intentional 😂
@sarahfrith1984 2 місяці тому
@@mangos2888 why? They had nothing to hide
@Geeky907 2 місяці тому
Forgiven by everyone but the NTSB who will undoubtedly make mention of that mis-step in the final report ... - i still say.. Bravo Crew...
@jimwebb9328 2 місяці тому
Maybe a future recommendation will be for ATC personnel to say as a last instruction after the aircraft is parked, "please pull your CVR breaker". Of course this will be only after dealing with a crew that has declared an emergency.
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 місяці тому
@@jimwebb9328 while the crew ought to remember, anything can be forgotten in a delayed panic.
@DrAditya2935 2 місяці тому
Hi Petter, I’m the son of a former Indian Air Force fighter pilot. My father always used to tell his stories about flying the Mig21. As a kid I loved listening to those. He unfortunately passed away 2 years ago due to Covid-19. In some way you way of story telling (and looks too)remind me of my father - and I love watching these aviation accident stories - and - its sort of cathartic - I just feel close to many father watching them. Thanks for everything you do and such great quality video made with highest professional standards. Regards.
@iocat 2 місяці тому
Sorry for your loss
@kentstallard6512 2 місяці тому
Condolences. I've lost friends and family to Covid.
@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 2 місяці тому
Your father sounds like he was a wonderful man, Dr. Gupta. I see that you’re a pediatric oncologist, and coincidentally, my dad is a retired pediatric oncologist who studied medicine in his native Andhra Pradesh before moving here to the U.S. in the late 1960s. It takes a special person to do that kind of work; your father must have been very proud of you. May he rest in peace. 🙏🏽
@Manowarmx3 2 місяці тому
Did your father also stop for commercial breaks?
@IdliAmin_TheLastKingofSambar 2 місяці тому
@@Manowarmx3 Wow. You’re kind of a garbage person, aren’t you?
@aislinnkeilah7361 2 місяці тому
In the late 1960s, I flew from New Delhi to Kathmandu on a Royal Air Nepal DC/3 with no passenger door and was in the rear seat near and opposite the missing door. There was a crate of chickens in the very rear of the aircraft. Very memorable fresh air flight.
@jeremy31326 2 місяці тому
With over 30 years of aviation maintenance experience (& still on going), these pilots did a great job! Hands down they were handed a serious crap situation and knocked it out of the park. God bless them
@Obregon- 2 місяці тому
Coming from a QC background, this really is quite shocking. The idea of having multiple logs for nonconformances, some of them in private channels is a huge company wide failure
@18robsmith 2 місяці тому
Not only that two processes exist for the putting the plug back in place -one "critical" and the other "less-critical".
@laurihoefs5841 2 місяці тому
Exactly. Workers and production Management under time pressure will absolutely choose the process that can be completed with less documentation and fewer inspections.
@ivansemanco6976 2 місяці тому
@@18robsmith This is not the reason and if you understand how doors works its completely OK. Problem is, that this piece arent door, this is plug. So for plug there is nothing like “open”, its always “disasembly” (I dont remember proper word from procedure). Somebody screw this.
@imatardable 2 місяці тому
Fortunately his explanation isn’t accurate
@imatardable 2 місяці тому
@@ivansemanco6976this right here is the real answer.
@YeaYeaOKBUT 2 місяці тому
“Darth Vader running a marathon” is the funniest line I heard today
@paavangoyal312 2 місяці тому
i came down here looking for this comment
@philadelphiajewishvoice6171 Місяць тому
Of course it sounded more like Darth Wader.😅
@JohnDoeHZ Місяць тому
I will have the AI produce this image for me immediately...
@Lee-fw9mr 26 днів тому
Captain Mentour, I don't know much about airplanes but I love watching your channel in the background while I work. Your manner of speaking is very soothing, the content is informative without being intimidating, and your compassion for your fellow human being's ill fate (regardless of whether they erred or did everything correctly) is inspiring and comforting. Thank you for providing this high-quality content to us for free. You make the world a better place.
@dianedesaintpierre3573 2 місяці тому
It’s a miracle that no one was sucked outside through the hole. I don’t fly often but I’ll think twice before flying on a Boeing. There are too many issues like this, it’s scary.
@harryshuman9637 2 місяці тому
The most incredible part of this whole story is how the door didn't hit the plane's elevator.
@Lohse_dos2 2 місяці тому
True
@cedricrobitaille2627 2 місяці тому
facts
@kellerbailey4353 2 місяці тому
There’s an elevator?? How tall is this plane For legal reasons this is a joke Edit: thanks for all the likes guys! It means a lot
@aviationfan2637 2 місяці тому
I think that the most incredible part of it is how that door survived a drop of about 10000ft or so and stayed intact the whole way down
@michaelashby9654 2 місяці тому
I imagine its shape caused it to feather on its way down.
@MickeyAntonio 2 місяці тому
My husband and I are both former Boeing employees. During assembly on the factory floor parts, ie. fasteners, Are carefully monitored and must be accounted for. If you are performing a job that requires 20 rivets you get 20 rivets and that’s it. There are no parts bins with extra fasteners. This is done to control FOD and also to verify if the job was done correctly if you have an extra fastener in your hand after completing your tasks something is wrong. So what we are wondering is where are the four bolts that did not get reinstalled?
@andrearoberts1953 2 місяці тому
I'll bet some suit in Chicago decided that counting the exact number of parts took too much time and then eliminated that step in the process.
@bsmith1164 2 місяці тому
I wonder the same thing. 4 bolts and associated nuts and washers would be left over after the job. Where did they go?
@billdeibner7105 2 місяці тому
My guess, the person who found them after the fact threw them away to avoid blame. Is that a management problem?, work environment maybe, bad employee?
@hobbesip1 2 місяці тому
Math word problem of the year 😂
@PRH123 2 місяці тому
@@billdeibner7105 not likely, they wouldn't have anything to lose by calling attention to it... no mechanic is going to pitch certified hardware into a bin... the bolts should be traceable and likely have already been found in the parts store inventory, and the records of their movement should help reveal what happened...
@Er_Guille 2 місяці тому
This is the first video I have seen on Alaska flight 1282. I wasn’t interested in any previous ones and I’ve been waiting for this because I knew this channel is the gold standard for aviation news. I am not a pilot, nor am I involved in the industry (besides as a passenger), but I can tell a serious communicator whenever I see one. Thanks a lot Petter. You always shine a bright light into these events.
@JelMain Місяць тому
Following that death, we've just had ANOTHER 737 Max 8 land with a panel missing. March 15 Rogue Valley International, Medford, Oregon. Only discovered after landing post-flight walk-around.
@craig7350 2 місяці тому
You've set a new standard of quality for reports like this.. very impressive, well done.
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
Thank you! We do what we can to be as accurate as we can.
@alexdhall 2 місяці тому
The above comment ⬆️ has *absolutely nothing* to do with whatever grievance politics and/or anti-DEI 🤬 you've been hearing on Earth 2. Mentour Pilot did an excellent job recounting this air incident...
@riaanlouw1874 2 місяці тому
😀 Except fot the pilots wearing their sunglasses on all flights, even in the middle of the night😃
@lindashaw3796 2 місяці тому
@@DabNaggit WTF ???
@vcom2327 2 місяці тому
Engineer here. That no quality control was performed after what was obviously a critical repair, is beyond belief.
@chipset2900 2 місяці тому
Could be Planner error (not likely). Inspection is always called out after structure installation. Depends if it was production, or rework planning.
@pizzablender Місяць тому
@@chipset2900In GMP you'd have a checklist signed off by a different worker. But if it is denied there is any work done (that's why the door was opened rather than removed) no checklist is needed and the work goes FASTER.
@timothykiarie2166 2 місяці тому
I sure have heard about Alaska 1282 and the missing bolts but I really enjoyed the unusual level of detail that you give in this story. I understand the incident more fully. I have never regretted subscribing to both your channels from which I have garnered immense knowledge about aviation. Thank you very much, from Nairobi, Kenya.
@drjohn5801 2 місяці тому
Without disclosing how, I can say your concise stage of events and overall accuracy is both impressive and highly commendable - excellent video.
@alektonjes7467 2 місяці тому
Hey, I was a caterer for this flight! My partner and I catered the flight once it got into its gate and later that day, on another truck we saw it back at its gate missing its door - spoke with the flight attendants involved and got to see the aircraft we had just catered missing a door. I love this channel and I can’t believe I’m getting to see this covered here, it’s very exciting!!
@mediocreman2 2 місяці тому
They probably moved the food onto a different plane. 😅
@federicoprice2687 2 місяці тому
@@mediocreman2 Didn't the flying sandwiches just fly out the hole?
@thereissomecoolstuff 2 місяці тому
What did you do to the door? Might have been a loose pretzel.
@thecrazyswede2495 2 місяці тому
Somebody thought it was a piece of cake?
@Niteowlette 2 місяці тому
@@mediocreman2😂🤣 No doubt!
@malebetegrrr5793 2 місяці тому
As a non Boeing engineer, I appreciate bolts. Thank you all for the hard work every one put into all these bolts.
@CWINDOWSsystem32 2 місяці тому
Bolts hold our world together. Literally.
@faranger 2 місяці тому
The bolts have to be PROPERLY INSTALLED to work. 😢
@malebetegrrr5793 2 місяці тому
@@farangerBolts are made for one purpose, I think it is not to be put just alone ... for the weight.
@faranger 2 місяці тому
@@malebetegrrr5793 No shit really? As a Certified Aircraft mechanic With a Degree in Aviation maintenance Technologies from the National Aviation Academy in Clearwater FL 4.0 GPA. The BOLTS have to be INSTALLED to work. Even the slide mounting bolts were loose and no safety wire or safety cable installed.
@malebetegrrr5793 2 місяці тому
@@farangerOh really ? Don't we discuss about how to use bolts properly ? I have some degrees in Engineering (but I am French, sorry), I never ever show it when discussing about bolts. I never will discuss a mechanics engineer about if a bolt should be secured, by what mean, etc ... it is his domain, no mine. But it should have been a thing to be observed by Boeing.
@pdglock19 2 місяці тому
Wow. This channel is just amazing! I've had this on my playlist for some time but it was recently that I saw a full video and couldn't stop. Petter, your level of detail in explanation and your obvious experience, just makes this channel pure GOLD. My new favorite channel on UKposts and I'm gonna have others watch as well. Thank you.
@v8pilot 2 місяці тому
8:56 I worked at Hewlett Packard in the days when quality took priority. Stopping the entire assembly line when there was a quality problem was accepted as the correct thing to do.
@sydneychase780 2 місяці тому
Ad a former aerospace worker, my whole family is aero workers and engineers, we wll cry bitter tears to see how bad its got. I personally have made a million QA stamps on new and reman assemblies, 30 years and no field failures was the gold standard goal! Cheaper not usually better. Get a clue aerospace industry! Thanks for the report ❤❤
@der.Schtefan 2 місяці тому
Initially I thought "not another door plug video", but quickly I realized that this is actually telling the whole story with new details that were not explained before. As an engineer I recognize so many patterns here and am almost in disbelief that this is an airplane manufacturer.
@TheRealWindlePoons 2 місяці тому
" I realized that this is actually telling the whole story with new details that were not explained before. " === The details have all been explained before, just *not in one place* . This is why I keep watching this channel.
@CyanOgilvie Місяць тому
As a software engineer it was clear to me that Boeing was a fatally sick organisation when the first flight test of Starliner (their very delayed new space capsule) suffered multiple unrelated software failures on the happy path (the everything-as-expected situation, not some hard-to-foresee edge case). That can only have happened if they never even once ran an integration test before flying it. Engineers as a subspecies are first and foremost motivated to turn ideas into things that actually work. The more audacious and ambitious those ideas are, the more motivated they are to make it happen. Aerospace engineering is pretty much the most extreme example of this - you can be absolutely sure that every engineer on the project (software or otherwise) would be deeply invested in the success of the mission, and keenly aware of the insane difficulty of the optimisation problem that needs to be solved to make space hardware work - they would be kept up at night worrying that they'd missed something, no way would they just omit the most basic testing if they had any say in the matter. Engineers perceive any impediment to achieving their goal (making the thing, and making it well) as a threat, which often includes management (either because the management makes actual bad decisions, or withholds information from the engineering teams so that their necessary decisions don't make sense). To have a failures like those on the first flight test of Starliner, you have to have built such a toxic work culture for so long that your engineering teams and management are in all-out war with each other. With the power imbalance, that means that engineering always loses. In that environment, your best engineers leave, and any who stay have to distance themselves emotionally from the success of the project. At that point the only way you recover is to gut both management and engineering and rebuild with competent people who understand what went wrong and are committed to the structural and cultural changes necessary to avoid it happening again. Good luck getting that right in a company as large and sick as Boeing, where the side effect of losing the institutional knowledge that would entail would set back anything they're working on by many years.
@mnamnam6061 2 місяці тому
Wow. To me that was at least one of the best Documentary clips on YT for years. Thank you.
@barrydeer3722 2 місяці тому
good description of the event with good detail. Much appreciated.
@carlosburgueno6361 2 місяці тому
My wife had no problem flying, I have really high anxiety and just the thought of having to fly gives me the body sweats. Watching your videos for over a year have helped me become more informed of the aviation industry as well as slowly replacing my baseless anxiety and with intellectual confidence to fly for the first time.
@yasaminwhy8212 2 місяці тому
I would heartily recommend British Airways' book Flying with Confidence too- you get a technical breakdown of the aircraft and the physics of flight, alongside the psychology of fear and ways to overcome it. Along with Mentour Pilot, it helped me after my fear developed (extreme turbulence on my first solo trip abroad).
@andidevlin3361 2 місяці тому
im the same, will sit for weeks before watching air crash investigation The last line is always, after the investigation, several recommendations were made which has made flying safer for everyone ever since.
@TheRealWindlePoons 2 місяці тому
"I have really high anxiety and just the thought of having to fly gives me the body sweats. " As the late Spike Milligan commented: Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing, that's dangerous.
@andidevlin3361 2 місяці тому
@@TheRealWindlePoons reminds me when Clarkson said speed doesnt kill you, its the sudden stopping that does it
@carlosburgueno6361 Місяць тому
@@TheRealWindlePoons haaa had a similar argument with my wife when I bought my first motorcycle 😂 I said honey it ain’t the bike that’ll kill me, it’s the sudden stop. Needless to say she did not like that joke and the bike was sold 🤣
@owenlaprath4135 2 місяці тому
The fact that this was not a specific MAX design flaw, but a general quality control problem, is even scarier for anybody depending on Boeing, because ANY Boeing aeroplane can be and is affected by the way they make their junk in general!
@MikkoRantalainen 2 місяці тому
It seems that the problem was within Spirit which is even scarier because it means all Boeing aircraft *and* some other brands, too.
@AB-80X 2 місяці тому
There's a bit more to it. It is far from all Boeing planes which has these plugs. From what I can understand, it's a relatively new thing. You won't find them on 747's, 777's older 737's etc. Not sure Airbus even has any. The scary part here is, that it tells us a lot about the working environment and culture at Boeing, and that affects ALL planes going out. It is as terrifying to learn that they did not replace the rivets which were supposed to have been replaced for example. Also note that Spirit is still Boeing, and it is the responsibility of Boeing to make sure Spirit does its job properly. It is also a problem that Boeing disregards issues, and thus demands the production to be ramped up so deliveries continue on schedule.
@thomasneal9291 2 місяці тому
@@AB-80Xno... it tells us a lot about the culture at SPIRIT, not Boeing.
@domenicdevries4851 2 місяці тому
Airbus does have door plugs. Just a guess, but an a321 neo probably has them because of passenger configurations. Bigger planes are less affected by this, because they’ll just have a door there because of passenger count. It’s these large 737s that are right on the edge of passenger count for exits, which is really just the max 9 and 10, as well as a 900ng
@AB-80X 2 місяці тому
@@thomasneal9291 No. Boeing is very much in charge of its final quality control. Don't you understand that a big part of this problem stems from the pressure Boeing not only puts their own employees under, but also those of its subsidiaries? Boeing's business transactions with Spirit, accounts for more than 90% of Spirit's contracts at this stage. And what little work Spirit has done for Airbus, has not shown to be a problem, because the rush at any cost does not run rampant at Airbus. Boeing is run exactly like McDonnell-Douglas was ran, and it did not work, and it was all about "just get it out the door" as fast as possible, no matter what. We are dealing with a company that literally moved a fuselage across the road from the assembly plant and back, just so they could claim it had been delivered. That is what GE and McDonnell-Douglas did, and that is the culture which is running amok at Boeing now. What you see here is the results, just like they were with older GE Aviation products, the MD DC-10 and so forth.
@lindsayc.7572 2 місяці тому
Thanks for the amazing videos you put together! I’ve learned so much and the high quality of your work shines through every time!
@Wordchipper 2 місяці тому
Excellent detail on this situation with the door. Thank you for the detail. Amazing how you collect and present in an understandable way this critical situation.
@andythomson460 2 місяці тому
A friend of mine who is very glad he retired from Spirit long before these quality issues cropped up, said that part of the problem is that Spirit had a lot of lay offs due to Covid shut downs and that they didn't get many of those experienced people back. Now they are trying build aircraft as fast as ever with less experienced personnel. This is just one of the issues that they are dealing with. Now inspectors will be EVERYWHERE checking paperwork ramping up the stress level on everyone.
@mandowarrior123 2 місяці тому
In other words they fired their competent expensive technicians who did not get vaccinated and replaced them with unskilled minority labour to improve their ESG rating.
@hannahp1108 2 місяці тому
@@mandowarrior123"They had a lot of layoffs due to COVID shutdowns." Can you read? That was BEFORE vaccines, in the shutdown phase. Did you just try to find a post to reply to where you could bemoan "unskilled minority labor" for your own reasons?
@mandowarrior123 2 місяці тому
@@hannahp1108 except Spirit did mandate vaccines, and did change it's hiring criteria, boasting of their 'skilled diverse' hirings over 'traditionally qualified.' Wouldn't hurt you to look it up would it? Also look up 'minority' while you are at it, I'm not confident you're aware of its meaning. Implying I have learning difficulties is not only rude but harmful to vulnerable members of our community that struggle with comprehension.
@gerrylee1687 2 місяці тому
@@mandowarrior123 diversity hires 😂😂😂
@ooooneeee 2 місяці тому
Greedy CEOs can't be at fault, it must have been those vaccines am I right bro.
@Hermann_Victor_Echo 2 місяці тому
This flying door plug has attracted an unbelievable amount of news coverage and "specialist opinions"., Many stories being premature, not completely correct, often incomplete and predominantly time-wasters. Thank you Petter, for bringing us within 2 months of the incident the full story. with understandable technical details, superb graphics, analyzing human error snd all covered within spell-binding narration. This video was all the world needed, as always: unsurpassed!
@mikoto7693 2 місяці тому
I was actually waiting for Petter to provide a video on this.
@PRH123 2 місяці тому
hmm, not sure I'd agree with that, the internet community very quickly zeroed in on the issues, which are again confirmed by the info in this video... Petter has added some key info from the Boeing internal communications that weren't known before...
@TechyBen 2 місяці тому
@@PRH123 Yep, not seen a single out of range claim other than "door opened".
@wokewokerman5280 2 місяці тому
Exactly, this is an incredibly well made account of this incident, and from a fanatical aviation steward that is utterly appreciated...
@wordforger 2 місяці тому
This one was pretty quick to diagnose because they didn't have to hunt through and reconstruct a ton of debris to make sense of it. Door plug pops out, chances are that there's something that kept it from staying in place, in either design or installation. You find the fallen plug, notice it's missing some bolts and there's no sign of those bolts ever being there during flight... AHA!
@Kurtmind 2 місяці тому
Excellent video as always MentourPilot. I was waiting for your video so I can understand the full picture of what happened on the flight. Thanks also for the collaboration with ColdFusion. Well done!
@justsomejoe3632 Місяць тому
"Imagine your sitting in your seat and then all of the sudden you're staring straight out of a gaping hole in your aircraft". That happens every time I go skydiving!
@brettpatching 2 місяці тому
Huge props for the enormous amount of 3D modelling you did for this episode Dominic! Even the Boeing and Spirit factories!! Great 2D graphics explaining the door plug assembly too.
@davidparker7777 2 місяці тому
Yes. I recognized the renton factory exterior really well done. N
@Delibro 2 місяці тому
The 3D graphics really stood out. Loved the pushback truck girl :D
@connorranz9746 2 місяці тому
Microsoft flight simulator 2020 and PMDG 737
@alextaviate 2 місяці тому
The "models" are just Microsoft Flight Simulator.
@judebrad 2 місяці тому
@@connorranz9746 Not the PMDG one.
@zz-nc5kx 2 місяці тому
Another excellent video! As an ex Boeing engineer, I was aware of issues concerning senior management and I quit back in 2009. Considering recent events I am not likely to fly on another Boeing aircraft, no matter the type. I don’t expect to see any meaningful change in culture there in my lifetime (I’m 73).
@AB-80X 2 місяці тому
Hm. I'd still feel fairly comfortable on a good ol'e 747 or 737-300 etc. The 747 is still a nice cigar with a fairly good track record.
@jasonleclare2273 2 місяці тому
Wait, you quit when? Are you a time traveler? (Joking of course)
@AB-80X 2 місяці тому
@@jasonleclare2273 I guess there's a secret project Boeing hasn't disclosed😀
@zz-nc5kx 2 місяці тому
@@jasonleclare2273 my bad. I quit in 2009 🙄
@kentstallard6512 2 місяці тому
I love flying but I'm not getting on a Max.
@Pantunesneto 2 місяці тому
I love how you keep every video so well structured and interesting to watch like a thriller movie! Well done Peter!
@DuckOfRubber 2 місяці тому
Boeing seems to have developed a habit of “forgetting” to tell pilots about various features of their planes. Kind of makes you wonder what other surprises they have in store.
@hgalactic5185 2 місяці тому
i don't know how Darth Vader sounds when he runs for a marathon🤣
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
Picture it
@1mezion 2 місяці тому
he sounds the same as he does when he's walking only a lot lot faster
@bertbergers9171 2 місяці тому
As an allmost engineer (i did not finish my course) the manager deciding to choose for "Just opening the plug so it can retain an SAT and no further action will be needed" must have never had any engineer training, because in that case he would have heard of murphy's law and would have chosen for a path with an integral final check-up on the work (CMES if i write it correctly). I hate when people do stuff like this. I must say i am very glad injuries where just few and minor! I am an upholstery guy mostly for flight cases and on friday i got distracted and missed a few steps in finishing 4 boxes. But i always lay out my work so i had two pieces left over and that got me thinking about my distractions and i took those 4 boxes back into my workplace for check up and i got them finished eventually. Someone should have taped those 4 bolts to the door plug to remind them and other workers that they needed to be fitted again. And since it is aviation and lives we talk about, this work should be written down as needing extra inspection effort. What i am saying is workers should train themselves to help with oversight of job completion and especially when things become more responsible management should pitch in and give workers back-ups, just because murphy's law will always be a thing and mistakes will be made.
@stevie-ray2020 2 місяці тому
The problem is that so many company directors are deciding to save money by either out-sourcing by separating different divisions into individual entities within the corporation, or out-sourcing while shutting down their own divisions, or simply forcing workers onto workplace-agreement contracts (or a combination of these). As the parent company then dictates how much a contract is worth, the off-shoot is forced to hire the cheapest sub-contractors they can find, meaning skill-levels & standards drop! Here in Australia, Qantas board-members (especially the outgoing CEO), have made a killing in bonuses & shares, despite the airline's reputation & value taking a nose-dive! The result is of course that the bosses expect the workers to loyal & hard working, but all the while paying less, with no pay for holidays or sick-days! The old saying is; "If you're only willing to pay peanuts, then you'll just get monkeys!"
@Infiltator2 2 місяці тому
Nah i understand why he would do it, its faster and probably easier to fix with less delay. Doesn't necessarily have to do anything with putting it in the system. The problem was that there wa snot the correct checklist to be done afte changing the seal. Normally that should have been correctly stated in a work order. That is also normally atleast in Airbus the standard procedure where a non conformity then also needs to be signed off by quality control
@msmirandagirl 2 місяці тому
Per Boeing processes there should have been a removal written to open the door plug in CMES and attached to the Non Conformance Record addressing the bad rivets. There also should have been removals written on the wall panel, stow bins, and whatever else had to come out to access the plug. But Boeing has been unable to produce any removal records whatsoever. Boeing is in violation of its own processes and FAA requirements. Probably some low level manager was pushing to speed things up.
@egpx 2 місяці тому
Fascinating stuff. One thing I find a bit crazy is that in this day and age of terabytes of data storage that the CVR in a brand new aircraft is still limited to just two hours of recording before being overwritten. Nevertheless, it’s obvious the crew did a fantastic job in this incident sand I hope they will get the recognition they deserve.
@strangersound Місяць тому
" The older analog units use one-quarter inch magnetic tape as a storage medium and the newer ones use digital technology and memory chips." - source: NTSB - Cockpit Voice Recorders (CVR) and Flight Data Recorders (FDR) I was going to guess they still used tape (for valid reasons), but after a quick search, it appears that newer planes do use digital systems. So I'm with you in not understanding the automatic overwrite. Audio can add up pretty quick in data. 16 bit wav files is around 650MB for an hour of audio. Pretty much a gig for 24bit. But memory is hardly scarce resource, so I'm with you wondering why that limit is still the standard. It wouldn't be a problem to have a CVR/FDR for every entire flight, from gate to gate. I would think this would also provide all kinds of data to improve airplane systems, CRM, etc.
@jherz10102 2 місяці тому
Your videos are absolutely the best! Top-notch, both in production and analysis. A far cry from back in the day when I used to read the “crosscheck” magazine from Pan Am
@N_Wheeler 2 місяці тому
12:26 Do what I do: take the nut & bolt out, move the work piece, replace the nut & bolt in its original holes so the work piece can't be replaced until the next shift (or future me) has to deal with & handle those fasteners.
@jim-ce5kt Місяць тому
You're hired!
@JFrazer4303 Місяць тому
You're fired for not moving the product out the door fast enough.
@wisdomrules8474 2 місяці тому
I spoke directly to someone who works for the company. The inspection team who double checks the work was basically nullified.
@reason8958 2 місяці тому
What do you mean by nullified?
@d1p70 Місяць тому
@@reason8958 fired. let go. downsized. involuntarily retired... you get the picture.
@andymcvean9631 2 місяці тому
An excellent explanation of this incident. The edit and graphics were superb. Thanks for an extremely professional piece.
@danaferguson3342 2 місяці тому
..Reminds me of the same mentality as the Challenger faut pas.. Where the board of Directors over rode the advice of it's Engineers and launched anyhow.. The Achilles heel of such primary focus on rate of return over riding front line engineers...
@BigMobe 2 місяці тому
I've been aviation maintenance in the military and an engineer in product manufacturing. This seems unacceptable on so many levels. Every maintenance action should have another person very it was done correctly. There should never be any part of a manufacturing process quality can be ignored.
@mbvoelker8448 2 місяці тому
And the people at each station on the line should verify that the previous step was done correctly. No way that wall panel should have been installed without the crew checking to make sure nothing looked funny. Touch each bolt -- the same way I was taught to touch each bartack on the MOLLE webbing before sewing the panel in place.
@pdoge 2 місяці тому
Thats how we work in software development even with non-critical components or small tools for personal use only. I was taught that this is engineering gold standard. Apparently enough people don't hold up to standards
@TheRealWindlePoons 2 місяці тому
@@pdoge "I was taught that this is engineering gold standard." Absolutely. The real engineering motto for this situation is: "Cheap, quick, good. Pick any two."
@petep.2092 2 місяці тому
@TheRealWindlePoons While this situation MAY have involved Manufacturing Engineering, that is not the motto for ANY situation. It was invented by people who don't have a clue what engineering is all about. Proper engineering requires the balancing of many factors including cost, manufacturing efficiency and quality. Pick two is the excuse of the incompetent.
@merlin9702 2 місяці тому
@@pdoge Damn I want to work where you work because that is not standard in our industry.
@paulliebenberg3410 2 місяці тому
Thanks for your effort in producing this!
@foxcharlie2000 2 місяці тому
Thank you for this interesting explanation. You are even clearer than NTSB in explaining the door plug.
@williamcolley4182 2 місяці тому
You are the only UKposts channel that I can do picture in picture. Its amazing
@alanm8932 2 місяці тому
0:22 All because someone forgot to do something. Well not quite... If they had merely forgotten to fit the 4 locking bolts then the door would have failed on its first flight. It probably wouldn't have even got as far as it's first flight without being discovered, as they no doubt perform a full 8psi (or higher) differential pressurisation test on the ground and even if the door plug didn't fail then (which it probably would) there would be a noticeable air leak as the door will be significantly lifted by the assist springs. The reason it passed the initial pressure test and then didn't fail until it had done 150+ flights is that they didn't merely omit the four locking bolts, they actually added a white plastic zip tie, which was holding the door plug closed. Why isn't that mentioned by NTSB? At 12:18, in the "after closure" Boeing progress photo, on the (forward) right hand side of the door, the second up from the bottom, pair of door & frame lugs, have a white plastic zip tie clamping the door lug pin & frame lug pad firmly together. (This photo is figure 16 in the NTSB preliminary report). The zip tie held, keeping the 12 pairs of lugs aligned, until a bumpy landing broke it, or made it finally slip off one of the lugs. Without that zip tie, the lift assist springs will lift the door to the point where all of the 12 pairs of lug pins/pads are pretty much disengaged and only the very bottom part of the upper guide tracks are engaged with the guide rollers. That part of the guide tracks was never designed to hold the cabin air pressure and it finally broke at 15,000 ft, the first flight after the zip tie broke. (After 150+ flights). It's a shame that the lift assist springs didn't lift a tiny bit more, because then the guide tracks would have fully disengaged from the guide rollers when the zip tie broke on landing. The door would have then fallen open to 15° where it's wire lanyards would hold it. Hopefully a door plug open 15° would be noticed on the next pre-flight walk around. Failing that there would be serious wind noise on takeoff, deformation of the interior panel, no pressurisation and an interesting view for anyone looking out through that "window". Note: a zip tie is also known as a hose tie, cable tie, zap-straps or tie wrap.
@markfisher7962 2 місяці тому
Thanks for forwarding this observation! The explanation has needed a basic cause, the missing bolts and the culture that let it happen, and a proximate cause that allowed the plane to operate normally for those 150+ flights.
@d2009wong 2 місяці тому
Good catch. Thanks. Human errors do happen but this one failed in many respects. Should there be a job card developed and followed? And of course some supervisor to inspect and sign off when the job was completed. Especially this plug now becomes a part of the structure! Personally I feel that structural parts should be "permanently" held in position, either by weldings or fasteners. In this case, can those lugs be used? Say threaded so bolts can be used to hold the plug in position.
@RyanK-100 2 місяці тому
So - the team that inspected that exterior wall and the team that installed the interior wall panels just didn't notice the zip tie? They just said, "That's not my department?"
@alanm8932 2 місяці тому
@RyanK-100 Isn't that the reason that any of this happened? There isn't a team inspecting the work done to open/close the door plug because it's considered to be as trivial a task as opening/closing the L1 main cabin entry door, that's done on every flight. Nobody noticed 4 critical locking bolts were missing, that you might very reasonably expect the most trivial glancing inspection to check for. So it's no surprise that a zip tie isn't noticed. Is the person refitting the insulation & interior panel, the same "grade" of person who was reworking rivets & door seal? Is it "their place" to look at what an airframe grade person has been doing with a door plug? The insulation is draped over the top of a seat headrest. Perhaps just held by trapping the end of the insulation in the seat tray on the back of that seat. Just release it and the insulation is instantly draped over the door, covering the zip tie and the empty locking bolt holes forever. (Or at least until Bob finds the door in his back yard). The zip tie is the entire reason that passengers lives were put at risk. So that's a very important part of the investigation that isn't being mentioned by NTSB, even though they published the photo. If it had been both no locking bolts AND no zip tie, then the door plug would have failed a ground based 8+psi pressure test, either due to leakage or blowout. In the unlikely event of it getting to the first test flight (without passengers) then it would have failed then. It would never have got to fly with passengers, putting their lives at risk. It's only the zip tie that escalated things to the level where passengers lives were at risk. Everyone is believing that the springs don't immediately lift the door to almost full extent, just because that belief is needed to support the narrative that the door can stay in place for 150+ flights with no locking bolts (and no zip tie) and that's what people have been believing for weeks. The belief that the springs barely support the weight of the door becomes fact in their minds. Any photo of the door open, shows the hinge guides at the top of the hinge tubes. (I can see 2 fairly important reasons why the springs would be designed to lift the door like this). Because the springs will lift the door, the zip tie is needed to hold the door closed for the progress photo. It's the zip tie firmly clamping that door lug pin to a frame lug pad that is holding the door in the down/closed position for the photo. (Person who fitted the zip tie obviously expected to have the lock bolts available shortly and to be fitting them. They weren't thinking a zip tie is ample for flight, in place of 4 locking bolts!)
@mandowarrior123 2 місяці тому
@@RyanK-100they tried painting over it the first time ffs. Zip ties was the clever one of the bunch.
@federicoprice2687 2 місяці тому
Thanks once again Petter, for yet another crystal clear, logical, unbiased, factual and very instructional video. Brilliant! This incident takes me back to a military flight between Balad AFB and Basra in Iraq in an RAF C130. With a tightly packed load of PAX in full combats and body armour, warm, tired and nodding off in the cruise (it was about 0300Z) when in a flash ....all hell broke loose! Instantly, the hold (cabin) filled with dirt, dust, debris, toenail clippings and insulation material - which made it impossible to see anything or breathe. As the now depressurised Herc went into a steep dive, the only way to breathe in this thick muck was to do so through the sleeve material of my combat jacket, whilst hanging on tightly to the seat webbing. Being in a war zone, I thought we had been hit, but there was no panic and I remember how silent everyone was. Wallop, bounce, rumble... incredibly abrupt and rough landing heaven knows where. Engines shut down, the loadmaster opened the ramp and everyone piled out...into the swirling dust. Sorry, l'm rambling a bit, but anyway: it turned out that the young soldier sitting immediately in front of the port mid fuselage emergency exit door had stood up for a stretch, but in doing so had managed to catch the yellow / black door release handle on the webbing on his back, and .... wooosh! So if this happens to you, then in the absence of oxygen masks, breathe through the nice thick material of your combat clothing. Stay well, stay safe, and as they say on the London underground: "Stay clear of the doors please!" and "Mind the gap."
@ianriggs Місяць тому
That brings the term "head up display" to a whole new level when the pilot's head actually... flies up and hits it lol
@Daniel-pm7pr Місяць тому
Always looking forward for the next episode. It's great.
@oren5889 2 місяці тому
22:55 the quality of this channel is incredible
@jorammombo1719 2 місяці тому
As one of the biggest fans of this channel I look forward to a great story
@kamakaziozzie3038 2 місяці тому
#1
@larumpole 2 місяці тому
Great video, thank you for putting it all together so well.
@kunti_putra 2 місяці тому
This is the only video that really explains the entire issue in so much detail.
@FutureSystem738 2 місяці тому
Thanks Petter - really great description of this event. As a retired, very high time pilot with plenty of time in command on 737s (and other Boeings), I can not pick a single hole in your excellent presentation. Outstanding job! 👍
@albertvandeventer8325 2 місяці тому
Where do get the time to make these videos, researching facts, do your job as pilot/ instructor, family commitments, leisure time, and probably a whole bunch of other stuff we dont even know of. And then you present this in such a calm and entertaining manner. All i can say is a simple Thank you.
@bc-guy852 2 місяці тому
I've seen a lot of your work Petter and Team. I think this is your best and most-significant episode yet! You not only reassured many who were afraid to fly, you made it a compelling story. The highly technical aspects were superbly covered IMO. Your graphics and pictures are excellent and really tell the story. Naturally, both Pilots are to be commended for doing an amazing job.
@sergioe7540 Місяць тому
Congratulations for such an amazing analysis, explanations, and graphics. Love your channel you are such a PRO! Thank you for bringing this and other content to us.
@kaitang6212 2 місяці тому
My family flew cross country last week and I made sure we were flying in Airbus airplanes. The Boeing executives should be ashamed of themselves for sacrificing safety for profits and higher bonuses. The entire Max management needs to be fired and even more severe punishment for Spirit, the manufacturer of the fuselages. I will NOT be flying in any Boeing Max planes for at least the next couple of years. This channel is great and I wait anxiously for each new video!!!
@CKLee-rs4kl 2 місяці тому
Yes, all those McDonald Douglas scammers need to go -- right up to Calhoun and he can take a few of the board members with him on his way out.
@EASYTIGER10 2 місяці тому
Absolutely superb video from Petter. Explained the technical side so it was fully understandable by both expert and non expert alike. And with superb graphics. If only my lecturers at Uni had been as good and clear as Petter!
@MentourPilot 2 місяці тому
Glad it was helpful! 💕💕
@shonen84 2 місяці тому
Thank you Petter, as always, for your high quality, and highly informative work. This is a level of thoroughness I hope we can expect from Boeing and Spirit going forward.
@abhinavbharadwaj9755 2 місяці тому
The editing of the videos has improved so much!!
@davidcubero2137 2 місяці тому
While I was flying B-73's, I also only had to use The Manual Pressurization Control ONCE! I have nearly 30,000 Total Operational Hours & about 10,000 hours in The B-73. You're right, "Emergency Decompressions" are something that we Practiced Extensively in Simulators. My one time use of The Manual Pressurization Control was probably due to an Electronic Sensor Malfunction, & I never flew that Particular Aircraft again. I made the proper Entries In The Maintenance Log & notified The Company. Also, after The Post 9-11 Bullet Proof Fortified Cockpit Doors were installed, NO ONE EVER TOLD ME THAT IN A DECOMPRESSION SITUATION, THAT THOSE DOORS WERE DESIGNED TO OPEN. THAT WOULD HAVE SEVERELY FREAKED ME OUT! As you said, That Would've Been Some Very Nice Information To Have!!! Before I was Typed in The 73's, I previously flew DC-9's, MD-80's, 83's, 88's & 90's. I never had a Pressurization Issue In That Type. Most of my over 40 years flight Experience was in Those Aircrafts. Sure, I've made Emergency & Pan Pan Landings, almost all were Medical In Nature, With A Handful Due To Faulty Equipment Readings. It's good that you & others are posting these Videos Online to help prepare The Flying Public for what they might expect in the event of such Emergencies! Fortunately, this is not an everyday occurrence! The chances of this ever happening on your flight is extremely low! HAPPY FLYING!
@kentstallard6512 2 місяці тому
Another example of why you're the best at this Petter. Excellent analysis. I'm a layman but I was incensed that Alaska had been aware of pressurization issues and didn't ground this plane. I concluded that the very fact they limited the plane to overland routes was indicative of negligence since they must've known there was a significant potential of catastrophic failure. You've offered a different perspective which I appreciate. That said, perhaps my view on Alaska has to do at least in part because of their history of cutting corners. Great video as always and keep up the great content. I'm from Ann Arbor Michigan and would enjoy it if you could do a video on NW flight 255 in 1987.
@redpointt 2 місяці тому
Thank you for the comprehensive video, I appreciated the information and the pacing. Really exceptional! I can’t help but feel I’ll be flying airbus moving forward
@MrJohnBos 2 місяці тому
Your graphics in this video are amazing and look almost real. Excellent analysis.
@alexroselle 2 місяці тому
24:05 : everybody gangsta until Delta P comes into play
@muenstercheese 2 місяці тому
delta P will get ya, every time!
@MCMXI1 2 місяці тому
Truly one of your very best vids!!! Sharing the insider details from Boeing and Spirit, along with your outstanding point by point walk through of the airborne event is really impressive. Keep doing what you do!
@ufclasvegas2011 2 місяці тому
This is remarkable how u describe such complicated stuff and make it so simple to understand
@mobilephone4045 2 місяці тому
I just want to give props to your graphics guy/ team. What a fantastic job on this video, from the animated blueprints to the 3D simulations... Bravo
@PadraigGrimes 2 місяці тому
This is by far the best aviation channel out there, so great to see the videos back again.
@geocachingwomble 2 місяці тому
Was this captain an instructor by any chance because it seems he did everything perfectly for this kind of emergency
@oredshirt969 2 місяці тому
I think it was a lady
@oredshirt969 2 місяці тому
It was a lady, not sure if she is an instructor. You should go take the time to listen to the atc audio. She is an absolute unit of aviation.
@wrongwayconway 2 місяці тому
Yes, she is an excellent pilot who remained calm and professional throughout.
@GVSolo 2 місяці тому
You got to give credit to all the simulator training that pilots have go through periodically. It is quite realistic and it really helps them stay as current and proficient as possible on different emergency scenarios.
@oredshirt969 2 місяці тому
@@GVSolo not for this event
@MaPrajna1 Місяць тому
As always, a well researched and fascinating report. I live along the flight path and have flown out of PDX many times. Grateful that there were so few injuries. Kudos to all involved on that flight! Thanks Peter and Team.
@timwilliams2659 2 місяці тому
I love that the footage of the assembly process, courtesy of Boeing, at 8:58 clearly shows while moving the fuselage that a cart is left in the way and is just pushed along by the aircraft undergoing assembly. A simple thing but it speaks loudly for the safety culture at Boeing. No one did a walk around before moving a very large, very expensive item?
@00shivani 23 дні тому
I’m so surprised you noticed such a quick clip haha
@SeamusDonohueEVEOnline 2 місяці тому
1. Respirate 2. Aviate 3. Navigate 4. Communicate
@Malc180s 2 місяці тому
Aviate, aviate, aviate. That's what we're taught in Brazil.
@FT4Freedom Місяць тому
Perspirate. 🎉
@Qwertyrun 2 місяці тому
First class and professional video. This is the first time I have understood clearly what happened on flight 1282.
@punditgi Місяць тому
Fantastic and superbly detailed report. Well done! 🎉😊
@malalexander3515 2 місяці тому
Thanks Petter, an excellent report. Well explained and backed up with exceptional graphics / video sequences.
@mbvoelker8448 2 місяці тому
I'm sorry, three successive posts on the same video may seem excessive, but I've yet to see anyone else with factory experience comment on the fact that the people who installed the wall panel didn't check the work that was done ahead of them to ensure that it was right. I was always required to look over each item in my hand before sewing the next step and hand back anything that wasn't right. They'd done the job before, they KNEW what the plug SHOULD have looked like -- how did they not realize that something "looked funny"? Why didn't they call an inspector before they continued? Why weren't they trained to touch each of the CRITICAL bolts before covering them up the same way I was trained to count bartacks on the MOLLE webbing before sewing the seam that would make adding a missing one impossible? QC isn't something that happens once at the end, it's something that every single person on the line needs to do on every single item, large or small.
@wokewokerman5280 2 місяці тому
I think the issue there is these are not the same people who regularly install panels over the plug, and would not know what to look for...most criticism is there were no QC/QA people who would be versed on what to look for....
@mbvoelker8448 2 місяці тому
@@wokewokerman5280 If they weren't trained to look for flaws in the previous operation on the line then they weren't qualified to do the job. There's just no excuse for it. Boeing shouldn't be accepting these defective fuselages into their facility. I know from experience that a factor that accepts defective product from vendors guarantees that defects will get worse and worse and worse. The parachute plant I worked in had that issue and it continued until they put their foot down and sent the stuff back at the vendor's expense. It cost us overtime and stress in the short term making up the shortfalls, but saved us a lot more in the long term.
@mikoto7693 2 місяці тому
Thank you Mentour Pilot, I’ve been waiting for this video and to set aside time to watch it.
@MetalTeamster 2 місяці тому
I recall back in 1998, we were on Hawaiian airlines flt 21 Honolulu to Seattle in the hand me down American Airlines DC-10s and at about 10-15k feet a loud hissing sound started right by my feet by the bottom of the wall panel and a bit of frost appeared. Then the noise went away. Weird
@sandycole1959 2 місяці тому
Hello from Canada 👋 🇨🇦. Your videos are so well explained and uncomplicated. Definitely binge worthy. Thank you! ✈️
@WilliamDavidKirbyUK 2 місяці тому
Absolutely brilliant! Well informed, well described and very detailed description of this incident. Thank you for taking the time to do this, it actually gives a sense of safety to those of us who fly as we know that this sort of thing gives rise to a better sense of safety once the lessons are learned. I will echo others comments as to the CVR - 2 hours loop with no automatic saving is ridiculous. That should be fixed ASAP. So, Petter, thank you so much for the way you have presented this and with professional media quality (sound and vision). I wish Boeing's quality management was as good. So, Boeing, are you going to learn the lessons?
@mikeyadrick5154 2 місяці тому
I have viewed your presentations for some time and i find them well presented. You appear to have a good grasp of your trade, keep up the good work------Mikey, Belfair, Wa, USA
@were-all-human9427 День тому
LOVE THIS CHANNEL - best out there.. This story needs to be made into a dramatic movie....
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