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That's good to know, cheers! :)

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The god of the rc505 has spoken

Hello taeyu

Timeless school.

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Nick is coool!

Yeah... it's absolutely my most important piece of gear, but it is built like an OP-1 lol

Yeah, he showed that he had gotten one in an Instagram story. He is the Loop King! 🤘

@@taubennedjensen *Loop Daddy

if you mean an angel with a cold and no pitch or tone, then you may be right :-)

Have you looked at the Deluge? The RC-505 does look like a lot of fun.

@@aquaticborealis4877 Yeah, I almost got a Deluge. It's one of very few hardware devices which have a clips+scenes+arranger workflow. However, the pads aren't pressure-sensitive, it's designed to only have a few scenes per song, and it desperately needs a screen... so I went for a Force instead. Also, it's nice that the Force runs Linux so I can add my own programs and stuff to it. But I've been keeping an eye on the Deluge for several years because it has so much potential. It's good gear.

Never owned a looper. Probably cause I’m more into making songs than doing short loops like you say. But with all that sample time what’s stopping you? I’m tempted by the immediacy and fun factor.

@@jm6734 People can and do make complete songs with a RC-505. It's just difficult, because it's not really built for that. So doing it takes more skill and more planning than you would need with, say, Ableton. As for why it's more difficult, a big part is that there are only 5 loop slots. It's like having only one of what other devices would call a "scene" or "pattern", with 5 tracks. The mk2 upgrades that by allowing each loop slot to have 2 or 3 stacked layers, which should help a lot with song production, but it's still, at best, pretty limiting... and requires pretty clever planning to make it work. Another part of what makes it difficult compared to other devices is that it's entirely audio-based so you have to perform each part real-time. This raises the skill required to produce good results, since the user must be able to actually play. However, if you remove the goal of making complete songs, this type of looper becomes incredibly fun, easy, and intuitive. It's also a great way to practice and develop performance skills. Basically nothing else can be as quick or easy, since it all happens in real time. It's great at helping the user get into a state of flow, just zenning out and jamming. The only frustrating part is the low ceiling. Try to take a jam to the next level, and you'll probably bump your head on the device's limitations. A lot of workarounds are required to go beyond a one-pattern loop. So the usual way people do it is to set up a 4-chord loop and play or improvise the melody live on top of that loop, while maybe muting / unmuting tracks to provide a sense of movement. Or they'll build up a pattern, do a break, then delete most of it and start a new pattern, over and over. It's a good start, and a ton of fun, but it's not the right tool if you want to make songs which are bigger, more complex, and less improvised. Meanwhile, something like an Akai Force or Ableton Push can be almost as quick to use, and has a much much higher ceiling. So once I got tired of single-pattern loops, I upgraded to a Force. It has opened up a lot of room to grow. I'm now at the point where my quick sketches are usually like 5-10 patterns long and 6-8 tracks wide, and I'm barely scratching the surface of what I can do with it. But there's still nothing quite like zoning out with a looper and meditating for an hour with simple, sloppy, improvised songs. Instead of calling it a "Boss looper", they should call it a "Bliss looper".

@@ToyKeeper Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. These are exactly the things I’m contemplating atm. On one side I’d like something hands-on to capture ideas (like many I just use my phone). This looper looks perfect for this and way more that could easily inspire songs/pieces along. But on the other hand I want something that I can actually produce actual tracks and easily export these as stems into Ableton, not just jam. So why not just use Ableton? It’s got it all really. Well, the thing is I find myself reluctant to switch on the computer when inspiration strikes. There’s definitely a threshold from composing on guitar/synth to open up the DAW. I believe many feel this way. So I’ve been scoping out for an immediate device like a good quality field recorder or sampler, but haven’t decided yet. I don’t want an Akai. But I think I’ll get the new Roland SP-404mk2. It looks nice and fast for any genre really. And I like that it’s effects are experimental. Don’t know about this BOSS looper since it’s Roland's guitar division.. I just need to make sure the software on the SP-404 is smooth for exporting stems. I’ve been thinking about these things for a while and I can’t believe why Ableton are so afraid to cannibalise their precious software. Can’t they see all the people NOT wanting computers on stage.. And all the musicians who simply want to sample/record without PCs. Why don’t they make a nice (mid-priced) portable, stand-alone device that integrates with the Live and holds a few effects. It’s must be executives that never were musicians and simply don’t get it. DAWs are not much fun to use for the initial stage of creation. That says a lot about why this desktop looper is so popular. At least I think so.

I'm pretty sure the mk1 could do that too

I agree. You can buy a standalone midi swither and connect it to the boss rc505. But at least with the mk 1 it's quite menu divey

I live the functions an form factor of the mKII, but I do mostly guitar based looping, so I’ll have to go after the arc-600, which apparently is back ordered until feb! Ugh

According to the user manuals, which are already available on Roland’s site, it seems this should be possible.

True, especially if you don't have a laptop and need to unplug your 505 and bring it to you computer. I'm still gonna buy this thing lol

@@johnthebigtree wasn't trying to put anyone off. I have the first version and it's incredibly useful and musical, and this new one is even better. It's a great investment.

Just one per track

@@sonicstate Thanks

@@sonicstate seems a bit of a missed opportunity.

Another vote for the 'trade-in' option. Great idea.

agree & in the end , what's not to like about the MK 1 . ? just get on with it & make good music.

@@PeterGarofalo routing to multiple outs is an absolute GAME CHANGER for anyone using the rc505 as their main production tool. That enough would have have had me sold but there's at least a 100 little things that I wish the mk1 has that the mk2 does have. And you can even use it as a drum kit on your midi controller? That's insane.

Yes, that.

Yes, there is an Auto record setting with sensitivity - that appears to be set globally

@@sonicstate Wonderful news! Whoohoo! 🥳Thank you for your videos throughout the years.

This guy is the industry standard😂

Yes

Their size?

learn to quantize yourself, hardware won't do all the staff. Imperfectly quantized notes is what makes us humans hey

@@IIeTpOc9H4uK It's a good tool, just like pitch correction. Ableton and others can audio-quantize, and quantization is completely expected from MIDI sequencers. Why not audio loopers.

@@yzimsx coz you gotta learn to play music in-time and in-pitch initially to keep your brain fit. The main principle of loopers for me is that they are fair. You got what you've played. It's not supposed to be easy no.

@@IIeTpOc9H4uK I'm 45 already, so I don't expect significant timing improvements. My timing with a looper is like this, and if that had been in Ableton, I would have audio-quantized the rhythm guitars and bass slightly to make it tighter ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gpGqfqpwiYKUo2g.html

Yes, there’s quantise. Loopop mentions it in his comparison video vs the 600

@Aaron Foltz Yeah, I'm curious about this too. Does it mean the kick drum has to always play a 4/4 kick pattern in order to set the tempo?

It does depend on a 4/4 rhythm. This is a Yamaha video that shows it in use: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gYKdm52jqqBoymQ.html

Yes

You can make each input mono and have four I guess, but you cant record to more than one track at a time anyhow

Just use a cheap mixer

I'd love a response on this. I did it on the RC 202 and it works great with a power bank. Somebody had any experience on the 505 mkii??

Ableton will give you endless possibilities The 505 will be limiting in comparison, but possibly more fun Since you're doing dance music, I'd probably suggest ableton, as long as the midi controller is fun to use. You want to feel the music and have fun while you perform. For me, the 505 mk1 is the most fun I've ever had with a piece of gear. Good luck

It has a 'free' mode when recording....if that's what you are asking?