Fascinating! Thank you

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Huh! I always kind of wondered why that is a thing. Good to know! 🤣 Thanks!

Couldn't they just write in the will, "I did not forget this person, I'm choosing to leave them nothing."? Then they wouldn't even have to leave the dollar.

@@Mei-Ling-Li what if the person accused other people? Like "oh it must be them that write this,my wife would never do that

Yep, none of the theories were right 😅 also this comment should be higher, if you read this, like it! that way more people find out that it was indeed finally solved thanks (in part) to internet sleuths and content creators like Ryan and Shane bringing it into the public consciousness again 😊

You're correct about her identity but unfortunately her killer has not been definitively identified. They believe it was her husband at the time, who had disappeared after his previous wife and daughter were brutally murdered, but he died in 2002 and they have no evidence except that they married a month or two before it happened. Hadden Clark confessed to the crime and had a lot of evidence that he did it but they never officially charged him since he's suspected to falsely admit to crimes.

Ok thank the heavens

As of today, they officially closed the case and stated Guy Muldavin, her former husband, committed the murder

@@hannahmorgan644 Thank you for coming here to post this. Can’t wait to see the crime channels do a final recap of the story. It’s neat to see a massive cold case like that solved in my lifetime.

They ended watcher??

Lady Austan, same here. Just walked down a sidewalk in Detroit. Didn’t sign anything, didn’t get paid, just a hot dog and a Pepsi.

@@flintwolf2291 was the hot dog and pepsi crucial for the role or just a plus

@@poofan5086 please i need to know this is urgent

@@flintwolf2291 We need to know please.

@@flintwolf2291 was the hot dog and Pepsi neccessary? We need to know

My condolences, hope you and yours are doing well.

So sorry for your loss! Disgusting how many people aren't taking Covid seriously and think the vast number of deaths from it so far are exaggerated or fake

Wounded

Sorry for your loss, Mike.

Sorry for your loss mate. May his soul Rest In Peace

Wow. I think you should get it replaced for the sake of history remembering him.

@@roleat well, we all remember my father well. And believe me, I knew my father, we were very close. I really think he would be laughing with us.

@@roleat also, i would rather have people remember him for his music

😂 good you didn’t change

That's so funny, i would LOVE for my headstone to be wrong. Imagine how funny it would be if your name was spelled wrong, like i'm pretty sure i would come back to life just to laugh at my grave

best comment

This is really sad. 😔

@@CanadianWizard99 when you fall asleep with youtube vids on

@@amyselfridge8504 yeah idk how that happened wtf…

Hahaha EXCACTLY

Lol yeah.

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Me reading this with my cat on my chest as she’s purring so she approves of your cool info

My cat likes a rectal exam purrs like crazy

Just makes him more wholesome 🥺 Poor guy deserved a better life.

The thought of Edgar Allen Poe reading aloud to his cat for their approval is the most wholesome thing ever

catterina 😫😫😫 that’s such a cute name

I can also be a coroner. It's filling out paperwork. Being a medical examiner requires school.

@@mnschoen bro what coroners/morticians/funeral directors/etc. go to school too? also they're doing far more than paperwork, they're performing autopsies and/or embalming bodies which requires extensive knowledge in human anatomy and decomposition among other things

what happens to the hair??

​@mnschoen You're actually not wrong. Hair can decompose, but it takes longer. Certain environments can cause it to decompose quicker. And technically speaking a coroner does not need to have medical training like a medical examiner does. However, a coroner is still an important job. And they can determine very important information, and given years and experience can give vital information, to fairly add.

@@chelsearoses22show me a coroner who doesn’t have education, training, or a higher degree that qualifies them to do their work

Right?

It was never about getting Poe out of the military so much as it was about preventing him from being able to pay for college via the GI Bill...Grandfather hatred for college institutions ran deep. JK 😜

I was like 🥸

Nicely said

Maybe he knew his grandson had a chance of dying so he didn’t want that to happen also people change over time

True

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I mean The people on My favorite murder (podcast) can do it to but Shane and Ryan do it best

@@kimberlycarter1075 Did you just have a stroke? You okay man...?

Yeah

I genuinely hope that it isn’t even his wife’s grave, he’s just training high-schoolers to protect him in future

Right.... while indeed being weird, people did marry for protection and financial reasons regardless of age gaps Not romantic or creepy at all, just sad

Knowing this I'm thinking they could have married so she'd have more rights and wasn't forced to marry some old creep that WOULD have forced her to be intimate.

I'd heard that he married her to get her out of a toxic marriage.

what's your source for this?

Back then in Victoria era it was actually quite common to marry a cousin or a relative. Queen Victoria married Prince Albert, who himself was her cousin

Truu

DUDE I LITERALLY JUDT WOKE UO TO THIS COMMENT.

Omg just going to bed now listening to this 😂

@@alexramirez842 *true*

every night, falling asleep to unsolved murders 😅

literally listening to this as i type a french essay

100% same

Oh my god i just realized buzzfeed unsolved is my life soundtrack i-

Same

i listen to them to help me fall asleep 😌

What do you mean by NE girl

@@wizkiddyami3636I’m assuming they meant “Nebraska girl” since they mention tornado sirens

Shut up clown

i rewatched that line so many times1 of MAYBE 2 shows that i actually do laugh out loud

TS: 18:48

He doesn't seem to be aware that we already know.

@@chrisbennett6236 or it’s a double bluff. He knows we know, so he’s playing it up like it’s a bit

But why would the ranger kill the lady? Why would he know what to do to not link himself to the crime? And why would he take the time to cut off the hands but leave the tire trails?

@@ThatGuyCanmanNC well maybe he read too many Edgar Allen Poe books or sth

@@ThatGuyCanmanNC why would *anyone* cut off the hands and not get rid of the tire tracks?

@@MaryAlice08 thats what i said

I’m

your pfp and username... fellow czennie?

@@mewsic3063 wait are you AND op czennies? Hello, brethren!

Yep! Lady of the Dunes: identified as Ruth Marie Terry. The Somerton Man: possibly Carl Webb. Amateur sleuths and genetic genealogy are on fire! 🔥

as well as the boy in the box, id’d as joseph augustus zarelli, i’m really excited about that one

They should react to it like they did for Fenn's treasure

@@deannamarie8389The boy in the box.

@@aarushiyadav7101 did someone find Fenn’s treasure?

time stamp?!

@@ryanfire4176 20:57

they are definitely siblings that are not actually related

Your profile pic never forget

aw, you're so smart

The marathon having a cozy vibe is the perfect way of putting it

less ads

True. I’m listening to it as I crochet myself a lil cross body bag :)

@@tamarkb6639 fast forward to the end and then scroll back and you won’t see ads

Was she the jaws extra though?

@@mansud No, she was the shark.

@@mansud there wasn’t any record so there’s really no way to check :/

Do you know why no one reported her missing?

@@centralcleaning3399 if she was i cant see them looking into much it bc shes from tennesee and cape cod is in massachusets

Same

same

Same! I love leaving it on as background noise and I’ve seen the seasons so many times I know most of the episodes already

@@bomethia7412 do you know why there hasn’t been videos with them two anymore?

@@bangtanjamsss8791 they started their own channel called Watcher, really great content- im not sure if theyre still doing buzzfeed unsolved though

@@AxxLAfriku what

Frl

@@Queen-yu5qn his condition keeps getting worse

Just like Edgar Allen Poe's girlfriends!

@AxxL are you ok?

so... I can claim my dad forgot about me? Yeah, I don't think so.

@@themudpit621 Yes, wills are often contested, and that is a protection. Not all contesting of wills are won, like any court situation others may argue and prevent other evidence against it, but it is still a thing, and this is used to help protect the intent of the will.

had a stroke trying to read this

@@deanbrandsma617 dont worry I'm pretty sure I had a stroke while writing it too

Top Marks!!

Thank you!

thanks

Thank you

Thank you my good fellow, this is most certainly helpful. I wish you an amazing day

This man is a saint. God bless!

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING!! my dad was a doctor and when I talked to him about Poe’s death he 100% supported the rabies case

Interesting! Hadn’t heard this one! Though it doesn’t necessarily explain the ratty clothes. But that could also be on top of any of the other possibilities discussed by our boys.

Link?

Doesn’t rabies usually cause aggression tho? Or do they think he was found after that phase of the disease?

@@kittyplayz1480it most definitely can cause agressive behaviour - think cujo

Well, that's nice at least

That's sweet :)

That is not accurate. Poe was a creep. He was 27 and his cousin 13. He lied on the marriage certificate saying she was 21.I can’t type out more actual details without my comment being deleted. What you’ve stated is not fun or fact. If you’ve actually done any research into it I have to assume you’re intentionally covering for the actions which is disturbing.

@@silliestnico it really isn’t. What this guy said isn’t accurate unfortunately.

@@MrRyan-wu4jx oh, I didn't know that, thanks for telling me tho :]

Do you have a time stamp 😂

Their brand of flirting is banter(fanfiction wise)and I love it

@@gemmacrybaby8808 18:43 to include the buildup to it, 18:52 for the exchange itself.

@@imsimple379 they are real people bud

@@valentinetexas That's why I ship their online personas and not them as people. I respect their friendship as real people bc it's what everyone should strive for.

People most certainly still do this :) it makes it more difficult to contest a Will.

Though people still fo things like this it's rare they get anything as they need to have proof that the lawyers can confirm. Otherwise if they are not included in the will and don't have this confirmable evidence then their claims are just thrown out.

My grandma did this to her daughter

@@finnfoster434 i love that you wrote "her daughter"and not "my mom/aunt"

It is the 20s

“other dude” 💀

other dude being ryan 😭

straight up called Ryan the other guy

He'd totally drag Ryan down there with him 😂

His business card DOES say 'agent with underworld connections'

He’s only going to bring Ryan’s soul down there lol

Where

Just

"WHY WOULD YOU-" *"W H Y WOULD YOU"*

As the SHSL/ Ultimate Detective, it's oddly fitting finding you here Shuichi Saihara.

@@pyroronpa I do this a lot in my free time...

@@koro-is-caffeinated puppet history reference? If so, hell yeah

@@jasminefaye2160 Yeah!! All hail the Watcher!

So how do you teleport as a ghost? Or do you just drift from place to place? What if your house is in a different state than your gravesite?

@@maddieb.4282I heard that ghosts travel on energy like it’s a moving body of water

Yeah I read somewhere that it was more for financial reasons, I think.

To save her from child marriage...hmm kinda redundant

@@riotgrrrl5924 I guess from someone who would ACTUALLY force her into having sexual relations since it would have been "expected of her" since she would be his wife. So like maybe Edgar was preventing that? I don't think they had any children so I guess it backs that. I just hope that she wasn't abused is my whole reason for feeding into this

redemption!!!

Sadly this doesn't appear to be the case, as one of their other cousins actually attempted to get her out of the marriage and take her to get an education, but Poe allegedly absolutely lost it and went into a drunken rage about him trying to take Virginia away from him. I only know a bit from the internet, so I could be wrong!!

Also the fact that in the voiceover directly after saying he doesnt know what a brain does after death he talks about how that’s not how a brain decomposes lmao

He also said that hair grows through the skull, there’s not much hope for him

@@notahumanbeing6892 well I mean, I'm assuming they didn't write the script he's reading. The show has a production team and such.

And him thinking that a skeleton stays together😂

Not really, most people never learn decomposition stuff unless they google it or happen across an article about it

ok but what about the skeleton thing, do the bones stay together once fully decomposed?

I'm also a future forensic scientist. I have the idea that I might be one in the future.

@@gabyfrances3179 no bones are held together by muscle, tendons and cartilage Once thats all gone the bones scatter

Hair ends up stuck to the skull at a certain stage of decomposition, because hair doesn't decompose near as fast as the soft tissues, so yes, it doesn't go through, but it does look like it's grown out of the skull. When you have worked as forensic scientist for a while, instead of just studied it, you'll know more. Also, enjoy working at starbucks.

@@gabyfrances3179 Ligaments, which hold together bones, are some of the last tissues to decompose before only bones and hair are left. So yes, for a while the bones should still be connected.

LOL such a Taurus comment - Shane's a Taurus (and Ryan is a Sagittarius)

@@abigailmarshall5302 shut up !!!

@@bruno25ist 😂😂

@@abigailmarshall5302 shut up. Pleasw

Yeah like shutup Shane we all know about the puddle pickle

In the 1920s that was certainly possible but laws today prevent this as they are required to present evidence that can be verified by the lawyers. Just saying "oops they just forgot to include me." doesn't fly anymore and hasn't since the 1980s. Nothing against any of you that still believe this because you saw it on a TV show but seriously research the laws.

@@chrisbennett6236 While I appreciate the information for post 1980's lawyer stuff, we are speaking about someone who died in the 1920's so by your own admission what I stated is still relevant.

@@merlinsgirl9311 he said wait let me take this from here and then took it in the wrong direction

But I do agree, my grandma did this in her will because it’s what “her parents told her to do,” if she didn’t want a child or grandchild to be able to try to say she wasn’t “in her right mind” when she wrote it and gave grounds to contest the will. It’s an old practice, but people still do it out of an old, morbid habit.

The fact that you know this, makes me think very very low of you. You gold diggin *****.

That, and he also mentions a dog scared him when he was out for a walk

I thought i was the only one to do that. I put all the marathons on repeat.

Omg same

I can’t or else I’m paranoid someone’s gonna murder me :(

@@Lilfishtf4e I'll cuddle you

Oh. So that’s why he’s so sketchy. Lmao

@@kitty_es173 i- afdjkhdas

Yes he does indeed

Did he do the murders?

It's the pedo-stache for me

Or when one of them wheezes

“That being said”

Proclivity

Don't forget "end quote"

@@imaginaryimagery8376 end quote

And her husband killed her. I mean, not officially, but obviously.

@@mickyfrench65 I see no lie

@@mickyfrench65 yup and so was half of human history it seems. Esp men 😒

His enthusiastic delivery of “and so we DO condemn! Wholeheartedly!!” always gets me.

Thank you. There’s some weirdos trying to defend it on here.

Of course, it ain't right, but until now there are groups of people who marry their cousins, all around the world. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Thank you 🙏

pog

thx! how do you make these timestamps tho ?

@@That-Comrade555 All you had to do is type in time like 4:20 and it's automatic.

wow it rally works! thx for the info!

I put it on turn brightness down and sleep

Don't we all at this point?

@@ella17734 we can be friends

@@death_angel1125 ill be your friend

@@bo0dles sure let's be friends 😊

Pandemic timezz are hard

They have identified the lady of the dunes as Ruth Marie Terry

They officially closed her case. Her husband at the time was pinned as her murderer. Apparently he was also suspected of killing one of his wives.

Same bro

*Sarcasm

He’s a baby narcissist in training lol really though like... learn the signs. I love these guys too.

@@silkoakranchpitchforkranch1205 lmao wtf?? been fucked over by narcissists enough and you think you’re qualified to psychoanalyze whoever as a baby narcissist? lol get outta here these “signs” do not exist in shane. it’s a damn public show he’s gotta project confidence.

Absolutely! TBH, the only reason why I can watch their supernatural show is due to Shane and his grounded logic, keeping Ryan in check because without him, Ryan would easily go off the deep end with his ridiculous fantasies about ghosts and demons.

@@shadelings Hey! Ghosts and demons are real! But I agree that Shane's logical head is a perfect stability for Ryan's over superstitious head.

Elaborate?

the chauffeur could link to a range of people- he could have his own motive or someone could’ve tipped him off to do something or just to turn a blind eye to someone else hurting her.

Though you are correct, she was rich and famous so they very likely investigated him and found proof he was not involved.

You could be right- honestly the Thelma Todd case has so many potential suspects/paths

I also feel like the carbon monoxide poisoning could have caused her to cough hard enough to break her ribs. It happens with pneumonia patients. Just a side thought.

@@lindsayanthony6819 Well. After going down a rabbit hold about pleurisy, SDR, and breaking ribs while coughing, I am terrified by my body lol Mostly it is women who break their ribs during coughing apparently! 😅

13 was his favorite number it seems. That’s how old his cousin wife was.

Definitely DTs. 100% For whatever reason he decided to quit cold and it killed him.

so glad someone else found this very very comment worthy

Glad to find this comment, that was hilarious lol

Lol🤣

Hewooo

Please make a video on princess Diana

@@prathamesh245 omg yeah!

Love your channel NF

Could you guys make a video trying to figure out why Travis the Monkey of Connecticut snapped and almost killed his owner?

You knew exactly what I wanted!! 😁 THANX!

I know, they are literally carrying the entire Buzzfeed company. I know they have their own show but i love these episodes :p

Same

You could go check out their channel The Watcher.

They have their own channel called "The Watcher"

Watch their other channel, Watcher!

Same

I’m lost wdym

@@infinitygaming3217 in their new channel in puppet history the professor was murdered by ryan

Yeah like a Lobo is basically a shovel guys have you handled one it‘s not a super unique mark- it‘s got a bunch of shapes bc you use it for different stuff but all those shapes look like a different tool

I think he something hand-held like a spade. Shovels are larger and heavier so the damage they cause is vastly different.

@@chrisbennett6236 probs just a mix-up of terminology there I guess, because there‘s no way I‘d think spade or trowel when someone says an entrenchment tool

Soil displacement device

Same its terrifying

@@nataliadams4361 it really is!! I've already watched ALL of their episodes now so it's not really a problem anymore. Although that makes me sad because I loved watching this show.

Who's the guy behind Shane at 1:57:49 ?

It does during the Roanoke episode. At 17:24 seconds

It does at one point. I think in the Roanoke episode

@@jessstjames7139 nice! :D

I'm listening to them while I write an article. Kudos everyone!!!

Im watching this while designing characters

Currently my background to storyboarding and character development! :)

@@koro-is-caffeinated nice!

They’re last season of true crime ended, but there is one more season of Supernatural

Well this didn’t age well

got bad news for you pal

They have their own channel called The Watcher! You should totally check it out 😁

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

But then buys a jacket from one of the wealthiest companies in the world..

He is "the rich" lol. I think he meant to say, "Eat the - [.001%] - * must be nice to be so fantastically ignorant and disillusioned....; blissfully so, it would seem.

@@GoogleUser-nj7yo he's rich??? He's not poor, but he's definitely not rich

@@lanac5793 the average american makes 50k a year and thats being generous. He’s definitely rich compared to most of America

You are a gentleman and a scholar. :) (unless you're some other gender :P)

Thank you!

thank you:)

Thankyou💖💖🍀🍀

Your an absolute blessing