Carbon Offsets: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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John Oliver explains what carbon offsets are, what they claim to do, how they might be making climate change even worse, and, of course, how Oscar Isaac is getting hotter.
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@Xadius22
@Xadius22 Рік тому
On behalf of Ireland, I'd like to thank John and everyone who donates for saving our whales and dolphins, we were unsure if they'd have enough trees to live in throughout the winter.
@toastedjoe1013
@toastedjoe1013 Рік тому
This is a major problem as the drunk leprechauns will claim dibs on the forest and start fighting the whales.
@Aluren00
@Aluren00 Рік тому
There is no need to thank him. I mean, who on earth would have a problema with that?? Its just common sense to save land dwelling whales and dolphins.
@arthur3816
@arthur3816 Рік тому
I always thought they migrate to Tuscany for the winter
@LiteraryMultitudes
@LiteraryMultitudes Рік тому
@@arthur3816 Yes they do! They're causing huge amounts of emissions when crossing the Alps in late October every year... lots of smog right where I live for weeks!
@TheInvisibleCanadia
@TheInvisibleCanadia Рік тому
Maybe next they can save Wales.
@samanthamyers5719
@samanthamyers5719 Рік тому
"that violently British man did a pretty good job of explaining the concept" can also sum up his whole show
@matzefly
@matzefly Рік тому
That should be the title of this show😆
@kenlieck7756
@kenlieck7756 Рік тому
@@matzefly I think it is in Bangkok…
@98triffid
@98triffid Рік тому
To be fair I don't think that will fit on the title
@peterfox6159
@peterfox6159 Рік тому
*Yup. And it also is a ... "clowns funeral" ... EVERYTIME XD*
@AmirGTR
@AmirGTR Рік тому
Not really. He's really going out of his way to demonize people who are at least fucking trying
@arjitjere1559
@arjitjere1559 Рік тому
As an ecologist, well done John for explaining that it is very hard to achieve zero emissions. Also it matters whether the trees planted belong to that area are exotic or native. That pine tree in africa was a weird decision,pines are NOT found in africa.Planting exotic trees which invade native trees will only damage the land. Offsets are just a short cut, the solution should start with phasing out fossil fuels!
@annebruecks7381
@annebruecks7381 Рік тому
I'm not an ecologist, and even I said, 'Pine trees?? Wtf?' Who makes these decisions?!
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Рік тому
An introduced species is not necessarily an invasive but I know that certain invasive species of Pinus (I think Pinus Pinaster) are the majority of South Africa's timber trade, which is rediculous, and they were introduced over a hundred years ago. But there are pines like Pinus halepensis and Pinus Pinaster which are Mediterranean pines which are native to parts of northern Africa. But Uganda? I have know idea. I don't know about pines but Quercus (oaks) essentially "walked" down Canada split in the northern US towards east and west than met up again at the southern border, hybridized ( the sections "Red oaks"/Lobatae can breed with other red oak species and section "white oaks/Quercus can breed with other white oak species) in Mexico. Now Mexico has more endemic (natives that are only there) oaks, and more oaks than any place. And now they are naturally pollinating down to south America where there is at least 1 species (central America is a choke point preventing more animal distribution of acorn). But that happened over an extremely long period of time. So trees can have some freaking weird adaptation traits. Sorry, I know Oaks are off topic, I just go down month long rabbit holes of studying oaks from time to time. Check out the migration of their subgenera and sections, it's so freaking cool.
@blayneschwarz188
@blayneschwarz188 Рік тому
So what are we going to phase out fossil fuels for?
@izzzy03
@izzzy03 Рік тому
here in Germany planting trees everywhere is now in.... just "green politician" in cities dont care about terms like albedo influence, or fact that bark parts, leaves and branches that fall during cold days and not removed from streets are direct emission of co2 and methane back to atmosphere :)
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth Рік тому
@@izzzy03 Although that certainly would not be using the soil and decomposers to hold the carbon, that would still be a very miniscule level of CO2. I never thought of that though.
@kcthonian
@kcthonian Рік тому
I remember learning about how at one point the catholic church sold vouchers for prayers to people, so that they could effectively "pay away" their sins and guilt to get into heaven. The simlilarities to our modern carbon offsets is eerily similar, imo.
@alisakumm9165
@alisakumm9165 Рік тому
I've been thinking the exact same thing since the first time I heard about carbon offsets, and it works because people WANT to fall for it. The uncomfortable truth is that we cannot continue the way we have been living and we need to make sacrifices to stop the worst. It's not about saving "the planet" at all; it's about saving ourselves. And I fear that is what people still don't understand.
@crnbrry300
@crnbrry300 Рік тому
Also, in the prayer voucher scenario, the intention is to DO something. In some of these carbon offsets, the intention is to NOT DO something. Which doesn't create any actual value.
@davidnorris166
@davidnorris166 Рік тому
They were called "Indulgences"
@Deanjgallagher
@Deanjgallagher Рік тому
Climate alarmism = a religion.
@ginnylin
@ginnylin Рік тому
I remember learning about this in the context of sailors. They would make port, go confess their sins in advance and pay some type of fee to the church (or donation), and then go booze etc to their hearts content.
@afroscience4808
@afroscience4808 Рік тому
Ahhh, time for another day of my daily dose of existential crisis in comedy format
@KaladinVegapunk
@KaladinVegapunk Рік тому
@Clyde3 seriously? Do you think spamming your unrelated get rich quick scheme video in the comments would work? Don't give him the clicks people.
@sailaab
@sailaab Рік тому
Odin Satanas, this bast ard has been doing so for a while now... on ALL main uploads under the channel.. practically under every comment thread The least we can do is to mass report the turds and the comments too.
@sailaab
@sailaab Рік тому
Go on the 'about' page of this bas turds profile and use the 'report' feature. Child molester or terrorism or some such reasons.
@stevesmith4630
@stevesmith4630 Рік тому
I KNOW, RIGHT?!
@couragekarnga8735
@couragekarnga8735 Рік тому
Gods, we should've listened to Al Gore!
@atorrance
@atorrance Рік тому
Seeing John Oliver quoting research done by Wendover Productions is amazing. This what new media landscape has become and it’s sweet.
@in1420
@in1420 Рік тому
For real, I have been watching Wendover for years and to see Mainstreamish reference him is amazing.
@ethansimmons3842
@ethansimmons3842 Рік тому
We love you @wendoverproductions
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 Рік тому
Who is that?
@afriendofafriend5766
@afriendofafriend5766 Рік тому
@@rsmith02 popular youtuber
@feddy11100
@feddy11100 Рік тому
They should've cited him and linked to the video.
@joeygambone4757
@joeygambone4757 Рік тому
The extent these big corporations go through just to not do anything is insane. We are all doomed.
@PitLord777
@PitLord777 Рік тому
The irony of going through lots of effort to protect their slothfulness.
@strawberryjampm9930
@strawberryjampm9930 Рік тому
@@PitLord777 it’s not… slothfulness, necessarily. It’s the profit margins. You see, they simply cannot drop even a little, even for just a bit. No fundamental change in the way they operate is possible, at least not voluntary. Rather just throw a bunch of surplus funds at the first available cop-out option and get a fat tax cut to go with it.
@danfergus3335
@danfergus3335 Рік тому
@@strawberryjampm9930 I mean they could buy tesla wall batteries and establish wind farms close to their operational centers to become neutral, problem is it would cost atleast a million dollars, probably closer to 10 million usd PER FACTORY with average net profit of a few hundred thousands at best
@ynraider
@ynraider Рік тому
@@PitLord777 *Avarice... They don't NEED all those profits. Our collective starvation/suffocation/extinction is just for their ego...
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 Рік тому
The power of inertia...
@murlocmaster6192
@murlocmaster6192 Рік тому
That unfaithful wife bit was golden. That burn was beyond what was needed to start a fire
@rolandrohde
@rolandrohde Рік тому
One of the main issues with "net zero" or "offsets" is the fact that it often completely disregards the time factor. You can cut don a tree and burn it within a few hours, but having that same tree grow back to it's former size (and thus Carbon content) can take decades or even centuries. That fact is usually not prominently displayed in those net zero calculations...for obvious reasons...
@nielskorpel8860
@nielskorpel8860 Рік тому
@Clyde Clyde, please, I understand you want people to know about investing money, but it is not relevant for this comment right now, ok? :)
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 Рік тому
also forests are extremely complicated, its not as simple as a tree grows and there is less carbon in the atmosphere. the ability of a forest to sink carbon depends on a lot of factors, and among them, the biology of the soil. a new forest can actually be a carbon source as its growing because of the fungus and bacteria that live in the soil, and only when the canopy starts to close they become actual carbon sinks, while old forests are much worse at sinking carbon, if not straight up carbon neutral. so simply planting tree may not just be almost insignificant, but they can also make things worse without proper planning.
@LostInDub
@LostInDub Рік тому
Don't look up 🙈
@rey6708
@rey6708 Рік тому
@@nielskorpel8860 they are bots dude
@FulloutPostal
@FulloutPostal Рік тому
@@nielskorpel8860 don't reply to bots, just report them
@kajoliloli
@kajoliloli Рік тому
Carbon offsets feel like a very "pay your way into heaven" approach to solving climate change
@schwig44
@schwig44 Рік тому
Does that make John the modern-day Martin Luther?
@videogamer596
@videogamer596 Рік тому
Aka Carbon Offsets are a modern form of indulgence.
@molybdaenmornell123hopp5
@molybdaenmornell123hopp5 Рік тому
Yup, very like that. And heaven has a quota, because there's nowhere near enough land to plant trees on.
@robertcowan7610
@robertcowan7610 Рік тому
That'd be an accurate description if the payment was made with Monopoly money.
@leadpaintchips9461
@leadpaintchips9461 Рік тому
@@robertcowan7610 How so? "Pay your way to heaven" was using real money that was considered an insignificant amount by the person paying, and the people approving were just making buttloads of money off of it.
@milkgrapes6420
@milkgrapes6420 Рік тому
Finally, Wendover Productions is in Last Week Tonight. Awesome
@roccomemes
@roccomemes Рік тому
Lets fucking going!
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 Рік тому
I was just about to mention that!
@zennydoo
@zennydoo Рік тому
Pretty sure that was the voice of Sam from Half As Interesting, never heard of this "Wendover Productions".
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 Рік тому
@@zennydoo Hmmm, yes, that's true
@TroyVan6654
@TroyVan6654 Рік тому
@@zennydoo I'm pretty sure his legal name is Sam from Wendover.
@subtropical1228
@subtropical1228 Рік тому
I'm so glad he did an episode on this! He is absolutely hitting the nail on the head! Another thing to note is the obvious fact that trees take time to grow!!!! Many species of trees aren't fully grown after a decade!! And in the early stages, they require maintenance!!! And planting baby forests will OBVIOUSLY not immediately sequester the same amount of carbon as a forest full of mature trees!!!!! time to face up - YES you actually need to STOP polluting!!!!
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Рік тому
I think the idea is that the carbon offset goes for the lifetime of the tree. So if you polute 1 ton this year they will plant a tree that will absorb 1 ton of co2 over the next 50 years.. Also, the whole tree planting scheme is a scam anyway. The co2 is still entering the system. Unless they send the fully grown trees into space or pump them back into the ground where the oil came from, when the trees dies or burns the carbon returns to the air and system. It is at best a temporary storage solution
@spicypotatosofttaco3227
@spicypotatosofttaco3227 Рік тому
Yes!! The role old growth forest play in the climate is crucial! I just saw a video about how some very old trees emit a pheromone when they are very dry that triggers rain somehow, I can't find the link, and the trees in the Amazon actually create rain clouds via transpiration. Also a lot of birds and insects rely on older trees. We can't undo cutting those down.
@JewTube001
@JewTube001 Рік тому
need to stop polluting and stop deforestation. but nobody wants to do it. they want to keep building and consuming things forever. one day we're going to pay for this.
@hg6996
@hg6996 Рік тому
When the carbon came from fossil fuels planting a tree won't change anything as long as you don't remove the carbon stored in the tree when the tree dies which exactly nobody does.
@TheRambunctious
@TheRambunctious Рік тому
Right, but the carbon is only pulled out of the atmosphere during the trees growth, once it is fully grown it is no longer removing carbon from the atmosphere as all the carbon captured by photosynthesis is being used in its own respiration.
@Pantalaimon91
@Pantalaimon91 Рік тому
So glad to see Wendover Productions get a shout out in this episode. Wendover did such a great job breaking down how the scams operate and why they're doing so much more harm than good.
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
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@Marijuanifornia
@Marijuanifornia Рік тому
Whatever Wendover is, they didn't tell the public about the 1942 USDA film *Hemp for Victory* or how Cannabis legalization will reduce pollution, replace fossil fuels, end deforestation and stop climate change. So, whatever Wendover is, it's just as responsible as every other media outlet that only adds to the problem instead of telling their audiences how to solve it.
@Wickedtendencys
@Wickedtendencys Рік тому
N v. Vv
@sunspot6502
@sunspot6502 Рік тому
Mother Earth will ight a fart and that will be the end. There is nothing we an do about it now.
@shughes57
@shughes57 Рік тому
Wendover is a serious gem of UKposts.
@tushirS
@tushirS Рік тому
Good to see John using Wendover Productions as an example to explain offsets. Wendover Productions's carbon offsets video was a great one.
@Joeseanag24
@Joeseanag24 Рік тому
Ikr
@sucyshi
@sucyshi Рік тому
Funnily enough iirc they still buy them anyway for their travel shows
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
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@spiffythebritishguy
@spiffythebritishguy Рік тому
Ever since watching the wendover video I was wondering when John Oliver was going to do a video on it. So good to see him cite Wendover
@aurtisanminer2827
@aurtisanminer2827 Рік тому
I love that channel!
@diasophia0207
@diasophia0207 Рік тому
I wasn’t expecting Wendover Productions in a John Oliver segment but I’m absolutely here for it!
@BusinessCasual
@BusinessCasual Рік тому
Nice job Sam!!
@genericuser1454
@genericuser1454 5 місяців тому
what's the joke here?
@archerdork7116
@archerdork7116 5 місяців тому
⁠​⁠Stab in the dark here but the creator of Wendover Productions (9:34) is named Sam and it’s pretty cool that their research is featured in a show of this size. So possibly that.
@xXGreatKilla
@xXGreatKilla 2 місяці тому
@@archerdork7116 This seems more like a stab in a well lit room, with your glasses on, at the bullseye of your intended target.
@archerdork7116
@archerdork7116 2 місяці тому
@@xXGreatKillaI mean, you never know. Maybe OP got a friend named Sam who did the camera work.
@DuranmanX
@DuranmanX Рік тому
Offsets are basically paying a protection fee to a mobster saying "that's a nice forest you got there, would be a real shame if something were to happen to it"
@massimocole9689
@massimocole9689 Рік тому
Yeah and to make it even worse, mature forests are mostly carbon neutral, the amount of carbon they absorb due to growth is equal to the amount they release due to rotting. So promising to preserve them doesn't actually remove carbon from the atmosphere, it just prevents more carbon from being added. Which is important, but not actually a way of being net zero. To use the balloon analogy again, this isn't like adding three balloons and then removing three balloons. Its like adding three balloons and then promising not to add 3 more balloons. Yeah sure, its not making the problem worse, but its also not making it better.
@belldrop7365
@belldrop7365 Рік тому
It's worse than that. The mob will bring a pot of plant in front of your home and threaten it unless you pay.
@laerin7931
@laerin7931 Рік тому
@@massimocole9689 It can get even worse than that, depending on why the tree would be cut. Because if you pay for carbon offsets to preserve that tree and it then dies and rots, then it's carbon added to the atmosphere. if that tree is cut and turned into, say, furniture, then that carbon is locked away. With mature trees, it often makes more sense to cut them and lock their carbon by turning them into something lasting, while planting new trees.
@emixam6947
@emixam6947 Рік тому
This honestly sounds like companies are holding the earth itself hostage. “Send me money, or I will cut down these trees, and keep sending me money or I will be cutting down forests”
@tomlxyz
@tomlxyz Рік тому
That would be better because then we could charge them for a crime and make them stop
@FranthonyZarcoza
@FranthonyZarcoza Рік тому
thats what happens when decades go by of unchecked wealth accumulations. these companies have the means to reset the planet and wipe out the surface dwellers, go into hiding, then come back out once shit blows over.
@willemhendriks1905
@willemhendriks1905 Рік тому
Hiya Terra, Manny Bigmoney's the name. That's a nice vista you got there. It'd be a shame if something happened to it, you know those hills deforest easily...
@joshm6720
@joshm6720 Рік тому
we had a scheme long ago to have people adopt a tree or we would cut it down (we own a small forest). never actually implemented it- but its exactly what is happening now.
@DesmondSG
@DesmondSG Рік тому
Well, climate efforts have to be economical for the land owners as well. If its beneficial for the world that their trees remain un-logged, then they should be compensated fairly for the opportunity cost. Saving the world shouldn't penalise the stakeholders involved.
@olivierb.2149
@olivierb.2149 Рік тому
By god this segment is good. So well written. So impactful. Congrats to the whole writing staff.
@freya002YT
@freya002YT Рік тому
Yes
@TheMisterSurreal
@TheMisterSurreal Рік тому
I am so glad Oliver touched on the fact that a lot of the 'offsets' that are being purchased are done so on the backs of landowners in developing countries. It's another financial shell game for companies to keep doing what they would have been doing anyway and get a marketing boost out of it. The only way to curb emissions is to stop emitting, period.
@molybdaenmornell123hopp5
@molybdaenmornell123hopp5 Рік тому
Exactly. Instead, watch these guys invent one fake solution after another to flatter and seduce us. It's like a scantily clad student sidling over to her teacher after class to whisper, "I'd do *anything* to pass the exam, Mister." "Anything, did you say?" "Yes ..." "Would you ... revise?"
@trumpet12345
@trumpet12345 Рік тому
tesla has made craptons on offsets
@MrBebopChamploo
@MrBebopChamploo Рік тому
It's also not just something corporations do - basically all developed countries have processes of externalizing the costs and negative impacts of economic activity onto developing countries (both intentional and incidental). Whether it's via the IMF, the WTO, trade agreements or treaties etc.; the ones with money and resources shape policy to benefit themselves and bring in more money. Carbon offsets are just a continuation of externalizing costs to maintain or increase profit, except now under the guise that they are actually doing the opposite and internalizing (some) costs (unless of course the offsets are purchased by customers for $2 to offset 1000 miles of air travel. Hypothetically).
@Liana-cp5cp
@Liana-cp5cp Рік тому
It’s yet another form of neocolonization, except this time it’s through a fake promise for a “greener future”
@bellaelizabeth7864
@bellaelizabeth7864 Рік тому
@@molybdaenmornell123hopp5 💕💕Wow
@martinnussbaum3435
@martinnussbaum3435 Рік тому
Fascinating claim by Kitkat considering that Nestle admitted to Congress that they know slavery is part of their supply chain and it would be too difficult and expensive to assure that their chocolate is fairtrade.
@apathyguy8338
@apathyguy8338 Рік тому
Do you own an iPhone? If you think indentured servitude that the mass majority of the Chinese people have to put up with is anything short of slavery you're wrong. You and everybody else who owns and electronic device made China also enjoys the wealth of slavery have a good day with that.
@dorothycrispin902
@dorothycrispin902 Рік тому
@@apathyguy8338 so should we not demand that companies stop then?
@TheAsymmetrical
@TheAsymmetrical Рік тому
@@apathyguy8338 lmao, this guy.
@bograham6221
@bograham6221 Рік тому
@@apathyguy8338 there is no ethical consumption in capitalism
@XavierTheNeonTiger
@XavierTheNeonTiger Рік тому
@@apathyguy8338 "Yet you participate in society. Curious! I am very intelligent."
@aspicboat
@aspicboat Рік тому
- Guys, we're going to kill ourselves through pollution. - You're right, how can we make money from all this tho?
@sachadee.6104
@sachadee.6104 3 місяці тому
Exactly ! This is the $100 reward remark.
@elferrous
@elferrous Рік тому
"This beak opens for sad news and porridge and I'm all out of porridge" doubles as sad news
@TheRealSullyG
@TheRealSullyG Рік тому
Proud to say I am officially carbon neutral thanks to Oliver Offsets!
@timothytosser288
@timothytosser288 Рік тому
John oliver otomantone cover when
@theborg2638
@theborg2638 Рік тому
Please let's all report Clyde3 and Prigiyan Short as SPAM!
@lorenzo121191
@lorenzo121191 Рік тому
I cannot use this offset because I do not live in US. I guess I'll just be dooming the planet then
@Styphon
@Styphon Рік тому
@@theborg2638 I do that for all those links. I am surprised there is no bot-scrubber for them already. Wake up, UKposts.
@DeltaNovum
@DeltaNovum Рік тому
@@Styphon this platform which I will not name, but the search engine that runs it really wants it to fail. I'm sure of it. Everything points towards it. Do you know how easy it would be to remove those bots that spam the same links over and over? This platform has been losing money since the beginning. They have not only changed things like comment placement, removing the downvote button etc, but they also changed the algorithms to screw over the content creators for a while now. Everytime I comment about this my comment gets shadowbanned (I can see it, but no-one else can). Same goes for when I comment about the situation in a country that's about to collapse and is being run by a bear who really loves honey.
@poocrafter2
@poocrafter2 Рік тому
Nice to see the use of Wendover in this. He did a great video about the Carbon Offsets scam
@Leo-qe1my
@Leo-qe1my Рік тому
Lol, that's were I have already seen this. And here I was wondering for the first ten minutes why they do the same topic again, without even mentioning it.
@elgonzo7239
@elgonzo7239 Рік тому
I bet Sam from HAI will be really jealous of this.
@sujimtangerines
@sujimtangerines Рік тому
Lol, I knew that looked & sounded familiar. Sam is awesome. I don't know if I'm suffering from deja vu but I feel like one of his other videos was used in another ep, or maybe another late night show?
@Marijuanifornia
@Marijuanifornia Рік тому
The USDA reported in 1916 that one acre of Cannabis can make as much paper as four acres of trees. That is what began the anti-drug propaganda of Cannabis prohibition. The USDA encouraged Americans to grow Cannabis to defend our country during World War II. Please watch the 1942 USDA film, *Hemp for Victory.* This is the key to reducing pollution, replacing fossil fuels, ending deforestation and stopping climate change. There is an official .gov link to the film from the US National Archives. It has been public since 1990. One episode of this show about *Hemp for Victory* would finally make the film go viral and change the world.
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
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@AbbasIdris
@AbbasIdris Рік тому
Thanks, John Oliver, for entertaining and informing us at the same time! Keep up the great work! You truly deserve every Emmy that you have won and will win!
@soulgypsy5151
@soulgypsy5151 Рік тому
Much Love to John Oliver and his team. This show is one of the many reasons Last Week Tonight with John Oliver has won the Emmy Award for best show since 2015. We need more John Oliver's! And much love to John Stewart for your gift of whit and talent in having John Oliver, Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah and Jordan Klepper as part of your team....a breath of fresh air...
@OleOlson
@OleOlson Рік тому
Taking on corporations is why I love LWT so much. Many shows are afraid of calling them out, fearing losing sponsors (ie. money), but John Oliver just goes straight for the their throats in his truth telling.
@corvus2512
@corvus2512 Рік тому
Sadly, whether it’s this or the housing crisis or American healthcare nothing will be done about any of it
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan Рік тому
@@corvus2512 it would be nice if world governments do something. In the mean time, people can put a huge dent in slowing climate change yet refuse to do so. Stop flying, don't eat animals, turn down your ac/heat, bike, walk, bus... the government doesn't have to do anything for the public to take these steps
@Sojo214
@Sojo214 Рік тому
@@veganpotterthevegan Wouldn't change much. Yes, every little bit helps, but it's like putting a bandaid on your arm that was nearly amputated in an accident. Companies drive such a massive percentage of the climate crisis, if they aren't on board, we're just not fixing this.
@JTStembler
@JTStembler Рік тому
Time to actually *build* carbon capture plants all over the world?
@Voknal
@Voknal Рік тому
100 years from now, in a post apocalyptic world. People will find a hard drive with all the episodes and wonder how it all happened when we knew what all the problems were.
@gildeddragonfly
@gildeddragonfly Рік тому
Any time John says "practically anyone can set up...." I know he knows because they DID it.
@davidhollenshead4892
@davidhollenshead4892 Рік тому
What got me is how easily he managed to start his chain saw... But then he was employed as a "cutter" in Brittan while a struggling comedian... [and no, a "cutter" doesn't cut trees down, they do the prep work for a "dumper" in organized crime...]
@ArachCobra
@ArachCobra Рік тому
This really is a continuous problem of magic thinking. We want solutions that makes us feel like we're doing the right thing, but also requires zero effort or sacrifice.
@dridadbunkerphd6523
@dridadbunkerphd6523 Рік тому
One of the best things about John's work is he and his staff actually DO the things that prove the BS is really BS. Gotta love that.
@drewmany
@drewmany Рік тому
😄
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 Рік тому
The only problem is that they are only one team. Everyone needs to think like them.
@redfin382
@redfin382 Рік тому
I love how giant corporations have convinced us that we are the problem with emissions...and not...you know..the giant corporations.
@teresathayn5170
@teresathayn5170 Рік тому
They didn't convince me! Duh.
@redfin382
@redfin382 Рік тому
@@teresathayn5170 well obviously they haven't convinced me either.
@andiward7068
@andiward7068 Рік тому
People's desire to feel in control and important is used against us. Regardless of our individual actions we can never come close to reducing the harm done on an industrial level.
@TheMidwestAtheist
@TheMidwestAtheist Рік тому
@@andiward7068 I hear what everyone is saying, but, let's be honest: It's a *both* problem. Industry exists like it does because we've been convinced that we need to consume. If we didn't consume, there wouldn't be so much industry. That said, I do recognize that it is the rich who are by far the biggest consumers and, thus, the biggest drivers of industry. My point is more that it is important to recognize that there is a feedback loop in the system. Edit: I should note industry has forced us to consume in many ways. Suburban housing, for example, is devastating to the environment. But one cannot simply decide to move. Similarly, many places lack good public transportation. So I do acknowledge there are cases where our hands, as the consumer, are tied.
@piewert787
@piewert787 Рік тому
@@TheMidwestAtheist and who convinced us we need to consume?
@dennismwebembezi
@dennismwebembezi Рік тому
As a Ugandan, I think the effects of offset solutions being sent to the third world and developing countries are felt firsthand by the very occupants of that country, which actually emit negligible amounts of carbon dioxide. They face the wrath of governments trying to implement a project that solves nothing without knowing that the source of funding comes from the industrialized world. The Swedish company will abandon the project, but the local Ugandans will not get their land back.
@godzillamothra5983
@godzillamothra5983 Рік тому
it is pretty much the same when the west send all their polluting factories to China and other parts of the world that have cheaper labors, and then accused them of polluting the environment.
@jomidiam
@jomidiam Рік тому
The only way the industrialized world knows how to relate to Africa is through exploitation.
@folkfiction
@folkfiction Рік тому
😣
@AudioElf
@AudioElf Рік тому
To be fair, my guess was officials wanted foreign money and didn't care what they had to do to get it. That's not exactly Sweden's fault. I know it's more complex than that, but that sounds like a civil domestic issue as much as a foreign one
@QueenAnneBoleyn6
@QueenAnneBoleyn6 Рік тому
@@AudioElf True, but within the context of the world, the colonization and hardship that Ugandans have endured from Europe and other world powers makes it more than just a domestic problem.
@mrseaweed88
@mrseaweed88 Рік тому
Carbon offsetting is the serial killer equivalent of being paid not to kill a victim you'd not planned on killing in the first place
@loganknoll
@loganknoll Рік тому
John Oliver is absolutely fantastic and this show is a beam of light in a world that gets darker every day.. thank you
@HobbesHobbiton
@HobbesHobbiton Рік тому
"An Atlas Of Human Suffering." Goddamn, that's dystopian _as fuck._ What a time to be alive.
@couragekarnga8735
@couragekarnga8735 Рік тому
And people wonder why I refuse to bring children into this world! Um, have you seen the world?
@HobbesHobbiton
@HobbesHobbiton Рік тому
@@couragekarnga8735 "Why aren't you having kids?" *gestures vaguely at the world*
@Marijuanifornia
@Marijuanifornia Рік тому
The legalization of "Marihuana" stopped the Holocaust. Watch the 1942 USDA film, *Hemp for Victory.* The more you know....
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
Yo 🔥ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qpR7bZiqhW17oqs.html
@slackumjackum
@slackumjackum Рік тому
Don't believe the hype
@chidosenganp23
@chidosenganp23 Рік тому
Here in Spain, I recently found out that there is a foreign company dedicated to sell carbon offsets by planting trees. It turns out, most of the trees where dead due to drought also a large part burned on recent fires but because they planted the trees they still get paid as if the trees where alive and absorbing CO2
@couragekarnga8735
@couragekarnga8735 Рік тому
That's outrageous!
@RealTalkWithSSG
@RealTalkWithSSG Рік тому
Exactly this is what's the issue. Cutting off a 50 year old tree cannot be compensated with planting saplings that end up dead.
@Djuntas
@Djuntas Рік тому
yeah team tress xD wooopdididop. Who is gonna plant them, who will take care of them, and who will preserve them in the future.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому
I've been thinking about buying some offsets, but this kind of thing is what's making me hesitant. I've pretty much given up on convincing my wife that she can't just go around leaving lights on all the time and using disposable dishes for regular eating. It's particularly angering given that her dad used to work as an engineer for an oil company, to see her going around pretty much deliberately destroying the environment as best she can.
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade Рік тому
@@RealTalkWithSSG That depends what you're doing with the tree. If you're turning the tree into wood for building something, then it's probably a good trade as the carbon won't reenter the environment for years and the saplings will absorb more carbon dioxide than a mature tree will. But, point taken for many uses the carbon dioxide gets freed by whatever use your using the tree for.
@tuemuch
@tuemuch Рік тому
"When you buy an offset, so you can pollute more, and that offset is bullshit, you're now actively making things worse" - I'm frightened by the fact, that this is so very true, and that big companies spend lots of money - with good intentions - on making things worse...
@psychicbyinternet
@psychicbyinternet 8 місяців тому
"Good intentions"
@alwynwatson6119
@alwynwatson6119 6 місяців тому
John Oliver should sell environmental offsets. That way, people can drive electric cars and still post about having a massive carbon footprint. Or companies can gain the technological benefits of decarbonisitng the supply chain whilst not being cancelled for being woke.
@merissaj4518
@merissaj4518 Рік тому
I love John and his team. Their research is excellent and arguments are insanely strong. Can't watch too many in a row or I get depressed, but love them anyway. Humans are the absolute worst.
@bristowski
@bristowski Рік тому
Congratulations to Wendover Productions! Their video on carbon offsets is really well done!
@johngallagher260
@johngallagher260 Рік тому
All of their videos are fantastic! I watch them, LWT, and RealLifeLore as soon as they release, and are IMO the current pinnacle of informative video essays.
@pattymac1776
@pattymac1776 Рік тому
I was watching a Half As Interesting video before this and when I heard his voice I thought I hit the back button lol
@rpinckney1655
@rpinckney1655 Рік тому
As soon as the clip started I paused and looked for this comment!!! Such a great feature.
@teresabenson3385
@teresabenson3385 Рік тому
@@pattymac1776 Love HAI. I have half the attention span.
@Nazenko
@Nazenko Рік тому
I got so excited when I heard the voice
@UmmYeahOk
@UmmYeahOk Рік тому
Hank: “What the heck is a carbon offset?” Dale: “It’s like a ‘get out of jail free’ card for people concerned about the environment but not concerned enough to do anything.”
@Craxin01
@Craxin01 Рік тому
King of the Hill reference?
@coloradokittenfoster7459
@coloradokittenfoster7459 Рік тому
I love that episode! lol They were ahead years ahead of their time.
@rsmith02
@rsmith02 Рік тому
More for companies than individuals
@UmmYeahOk
@UmmYeahOk Рік тому
@@Craxin01 season 13 episode 2 basically the entire episode is about carbon offsets. I honestly had no idea what they were until I saw that episode.
@KuruGDI
@KuruGDI Рік тому
That is perfectly on point!
@neco9590
@neco9590 Рік тому
Honestly, this whole offsetting system always sounded even worse to me if the customer got to pay for it. Oh yeah? You ALLOW ME to pay so YOU can handle YOUR waste? Great. Thanks a lot. Next time I am eating out, I am gonna ask the restaurant if they want me to pay them 2€, so I get to take one bag full of their trash with me.
@capitalinventor4823
@capitalinventor4823 Рік тому
You have always been paying for companies to handle their regular trash but it’s been hidden in the cost of the product or service. The only difference with the carbon offsets is that they are a separate charge for you to see. As there are 1 in 5 large companies performing some level of offsetting and we don’t see an option to carbon offset at the stores when we shop it is fair to assume that the cost of carbon offsets is hidden in the price on many products. Companies put the option to pay for carbon offsets as a way to bring it to the attention of the customers. The companies want to be seen as environmentally friendly.
@FreshlyBakedLePain
@FreshlyBakedLePain Рік тому
Companies always pass their costs to their consumers, that is how business works. Obviously when you eat at a restaurant, part of the cost of the meal goes toward whatever they spend on cleaning and waste management.
@TM-su7vu
@TM-su7vu Рік тому
This is no different from paying more for fair trade products. Would you pay extra for slavery-free food? I would hope so. And the pollution is done to meet consumer demand. Companies aren't out dumping toxic waste just for kicks.
@neco9590
@neco9590 Рік тому
@@TM-su7vu That's exactly the point. I should not have to pay extra for "slavery free food", companies should not be allowed to produce "slavery food". Why should it be acceptable for companies to engage in slavery at all? Is there any reason for us to keep slavery acceptable?
@conors4430
@conors4430 Рік тому
John is an international treasure for the like he shines on these things. If modern civilisation ever had a Tombstone, it would read, here lies, people who could, but who didn’t”
@rneumeye
@rneumeye Рік тому
When John Oliver said... "When I said practically anyone can set up a carbon offset company, you all knew where this was going".... Yes... Yes we did. 😏🏆
@andreawallenberger2668
@andreawallenberger2668 Рік тому
we totally knew! 🤣
@michaelharris9938
@michaelharris9938 Рік тому
As soon as he said it, I was wondering when he was finally going to get to saying he did actually do it. Like he said, we all knew he was going to.
@BusinessWolfRay
@BusinessWolfRay Рік тому
*Editing this entire thing because after some fact checking, it turns out that corporations *don't* get to use your donated money (directly or from round ups at the register) as a write off on their taxes. It's nice to know that there's actually some regulation in place for this. Instead, I'd caution you to look very closely at the charities the companies are giving the money to. There are a lot of charities out there who have become extremely predatory and harm those they claim to help.
@pearlpeaceful3435
@pearlpeaceful3435 Рік тому
If anyone should get the write off from donating it should be the person who makes the donation. Find your own groups to fund, legitimate ones, there are groups that are developing new methods of carbon sinking, like seaweed and soil, there are groups developing new technology that can utilize recyclable and non-recyclable materials to make things like fuel or electricity, there are so many better ways to invest in the planet. Also, grassroots groups that can lobby for active changes in the system that has allowed our planet to get like this. Also, I'm gonna watch that linked video too, see what it's about.
@goadfang
@goadfang Рік тому
No, no they don't. Donations they collect from consumers are not counted as the corporations donation for tax purposes. Corporations often donate a portion themselves of course and for that portion THEY donate they may take a deduction, but the portion you donate via their collection program is separate from that. You'd think someone with the username "business wolf" would know the first fucking thing about how corporate accounting, but I guess in this case the user name doesn't check out.
@robertlowther7442
@robertlowther7442 Рік тому
It seems like your saying, “ That’s not fair, why should I have to pay?” And I agree, it’s not fair that we paid the bill while they do the damn. But the problem still needs to be fixed. I say hold your money until you find A company that is doing something useful with it, and then just help pay. We can argue about compensation when the world isn’t ending anymore.
@simmerke1111
@simmerke1111 Рік тому
@@goadfang You'd think someone with this arrogance would know the first thing about this issue. Creative accounting combined with lawyer speak terms and conditions often make it tax deductible. While some companies don't do this, many do and it's well known to happen. I agree it shouldn't happen, and the law/tax code says so. But they'll bend the rules and have them break before following them. Sorry to bust your bubble, naive one.
@BusinessWolfRay
@BusinessWolfRay Рік тому
@@goadfang Thank you for the correction, it did prompt me to do some more research into the topic and I amended my original comment. However, that was a super rude way to go about it. I never claimed to know anything about corporate accounting. I'm actually an Illustrator, I just own my own illustration and mixed art media business. I am a cartoon wolf who runs my own small business. That's where my name comes from.
@elizabethhb9413
@elizabethhb9413 Рік тому
John Oliver always sounds a little relieved when his jokes hit
@adelerahelimihajandralambo740
@adelerahelimihajandralambo740 Рік тому
As a simple woman from Sub Saharan Africa... Deepest of the appreciations for your lessons... 1) offset does not limit the carbon emission as it is supposed to be! 2) offset is a genuine mechanism used to "capture people moneys but not the carbon" 3) offsetting is a way to crooked people in developing countries to use and abuse people in developed countries and at the same token to pocket the moneys and continue to enrich those who pollute the most! 4) Offset approach would never work as it is a strait way to capture funding that should indeed go to development projets in poor countries that would effectively capture carbone... and do real goods... for example to enrich the soil biomass and improve agriculture - healthy food productions 5) As long as the UN and rich countries and emotional people in those industrialized country failed to request on who receive the money and how it benefits people and the people - it is just a crooked mechanism that enrich the rich polluer
@piedpiper1172
@piedpiper1172 Рік тому
Wendover Productions and Last Week Tonight having a cross over is EVERYTHING and I am here for it.
@GTAVictor9128
@GTAVictor9128 Рік тому
I wonder if Our Changing Climate would ever get a reference. It advocates for ecosocialism and so may be regarded as "too radical" by the mainstream media, but it was the first channel to inform about the carbon offset scam, among many other environmental topics.
@konsta3790
@konsta3790 Рік тому
@@tchittenden1 v.
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee Рік тому
@@GTAVictor9128 yeah capitalism needs to die to fight climate change.
@mboettcher349
@mboettcher349 Рік тому
"What it is, what it does, and why it may actually be making things worse." I've never heard the weekly format of this show summarized so succinctly.
@indiswagg
@indiswagg Рік тому
This was an extremely needed video, thank you!
@AudioElf
@AudioElf Рік тому
That offset your pig bit was wretched and I laughed SO hard.
@briankasnick4403
@briankasnick4403 Рік тому
What I always found interesting was none of them ever strove to be carbon negative…
@Stroopwafe1
@Stroopwafe1 Рік тому
But of course, because that would be actually doing something, and companies obviously don't want that
@kaltaron1284
@kaltaron1284 Рік тому
@@Stroopwafe1 It would just require them to buy a few more credits than necessary. But why do that if "carbon neutral" already sounds good enough.
@PeterDB90
@PeterDB90 Рік тому
Is that even possible? You would have to completely stop having a carbon footprint (which is already impossible unless you eliminate yourself entirely), and then remove carbon from the air, which as we saw, is not as easy to do and requires more land for planting trees than we have on earth.
@HoboWhisperer
@HoboWhisperer Рік тому
Negative is bad though. Don't want to advertise that you are Negative! Remember that they are trying to reach the same audience that rejected the 1/3 pound burger because they thought it was smaller than a quarter pounder...
@carolynburch3661
@carolynburch3661 Рік тому
Microsoft is striving to be carbon negative
@TokranInami
@TokranInami Рік тому
saying that "not chopping down a tree" offsets carbon emissions is like saying "not burning down your house" is investment in real estate
@ambermcdonald1302
@ambermcdonald1302 6 місяців тому
Bravo 👏🏻
@jacktattersall9457
@jacktattersall9457 4 місяці тому
We will solve the housing crisis by not burning down homes, that's why the provincial government is happy to provide free home fire safety inspections.
@AG-yu6hi
@AG-yu6hi Рік тому
Nghe xong bài này cái thấy tâm trạng buồn và nặng nề kinh khủng. Nhưng lại cứ phải replay hoài cả ngày😍
@declanbyrne5254
@declanbyrne5254 Рік тому
Straight out of university (back in 2012), I worked with some "alternative" investment companies that sold carbon credits. Safe to say that they weren't worth the paper they were written on. A potentially good idea that was completely ruined by greed
@eaturfeet653
@eaturfeet653 Рік тому
S/O to wendover productions for getting featured and legitimizing their research and presentation process!
@channelname511
@channelname511 Рік тому
When were they featured?
@pyrotechnic96
@pyrotechnic96 Рік тому
@@channelname511 9:40
@channelname511
@channelname511 Рік тому
@@pyrotechnic96 wow, very impressive!
@TreyCapnerhurst
@TreyCapnerhurst Рік тому
I'm *thrilled* that you took the time to frame this. Trained as a geologist and climatologist, I thought the general public knew that this, like "oil spill clean up", was pure performance art. I was genuinely shocked to learn that the public wasn't in on this theatre, and many believe that these measures are actually effective. Everyone in the industry knows that businesses, government, and media goes through the motions that something significant has been done, and they all go on as usual.
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle
@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle Рік тому
The public is ignorant of so much.
@Jkjoannaki
@Jkjoannaki Рік тому
If we, the general low to middle class people, feel responsible for the environment, we cannot hunt them down for what they have been causing. It's our fault for using plastic bags and regular straws and not going to our 12 hour shift with our bikes. Nuclear waste and factories don't create any pollution. Don't be surprised if they end up killing all the homeless and the literal slaves around the world to reduce co2. That's the way to go, lets keep the rich happy.
@jayflach3408
@jayflach3408 Рік тому
A lot of people are aware but still statistically insignificant in comparison to those ignorant.
@NoalFarstrider
@NoalFarstrider Рік тому
Air quality control is a lie. They hide the meters...
@JG-zu5wc
@JG-zu5wc Рік тому
Do elaborate on the oil spill thing. Have no idea what you’re talking about.
@nicktalbot3310
@nicktalbot3310 Рік тому
Simply brilliant. As always.
@justbeeeb2061
@justbeeeb2061 Рік тому
Thanks John this is very insightful🧿
@headsinger
@headsinger Рік тому
Love that Wendover Productions is getting some big time recognition. They produce excellent content on that channel.
@WanderingYankee
@WanderingYankee Рік тому
Now John Oliver needs to do an episode on bricks!
@StrickerRei-Chn
@StrickerRei-Chn Рік тому
Oh and Nebula and other youtube educational content creators.
@hypercodedOld
@hypercodedOld Рік тому
@Buhs Jet Lag opened my eyes to the complex nature of travelling around the world, I absolutely love that series. HAI is nice in terms of fun trivia, it's such a good series for younger kids to watch at times too.
@PinguinodelRio
@PinguinodelRio Рік тому
I was listening without watching the screen for a bit and then when I heard Sam’s voice I had to do a double take lmao
@SacredDaturana
@SacredDaturana Рік тому
@Buhs Okay hear me out... brick airplanes.
@melody-13
@melody-13 Рік тому
I was hanging out with my pet rabbit when I decided to watch this on my phone. The moment John started talking, my rabbit hopped over and started watching the video intently. I’m not sure whether it was the subject content or hearing John Oliver’s voice but she was completely engrossed in it for the entire 23 minutes. So John, you clearly have a new fan. She will be tuning in with me every Sunday from now on.
@firstnamelastname7708
@firstnamelastname7708 Рік тому
If you send me $3 I will offset your pet rabbit’s carbon.
@melody-13
@melody-13 Рік тому
@@firstnamelastname7708 🤣
@jimmyfouhy6402
@jimmyfouhy6402 Рік тому
My rabbit would run 100 ft. to house, if she heard a Kitkat wrapping. Smart Bunny.
@ooooneeee
@ooooneeee Рік тому
That is so wholesome 🥰.
@backelie
@backelie Рік тому
@@firstnamelastname7708 I just have my rabbit run in a hamster wheel to produce a green alternative to the coal I would otherwise burn.
@GHZoner
@GHZoner Рік тому
Another thing I did not know about making the world worse and there's no hope and nothing I can do about it. Thanks, John.
@celesteaustral2u
@celesteaustral2u Рік тому
Thank you for this! 💚
@_nickthered
@_nickthered Рік тому
I love how quickly companies went to passing along the cost of these offsets on to their customers. It's like "we didn't want to do this but yo u do so here you pay for it"
@somebonehead
@somebonehead Рік тому
It makes my blood boil. They absolutely refuse to shoulder their fair share of the burden. They do this with charity, too. As long as charities exist to clean up after them, they'll never feel inclined to actually address their behavior at the source.
@Jedi_Vigilante
@Jedi_Vigilante Рік тому
No amount of profit is enough for them, and every industry has fallen victim to this. It doesn't matter if their corporate officers are taking home 7 figure bonuses monthly, they'll still pass on any and every cost they can while pretending to do otherwise. The worst part is, we accept it as normal far too much. What is the main objection for increasing the minimum wage? That companies will just pass that "increased cost" off onto the customer, so we shouldn't do it. THEY ALREADY MAKE RECORD PROFITS, THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE OFFSET!!! How about the fact that wait staff at restaurants are barely paid anything without tips. Why are already paying customers expected to pay EXTRA just so that their server can make decent money? Shouldn't the cost of paying the wait staff come out of the money we pay for the meal? If it doesn't, then why do so many places charge so much? It clearly isn't for the food itself, I could buy half a grocery store for the amount some sit down restaurants will charge for half a plate of food. Then you have the "donate your change to x charity" things...like we are struggling to pay to put food on the table while your CEO is buying their 4th super-yacht, I'm pretty sure that charity doesn't need MY change when that CEO could donate a small country's entire GDP without even noticing.
@elkarion
@elkarion Рік тому
It's the same with recycling.
@Ichigo111293
@Ichigo111293 Рік тому
@@Jedi_Vigilante Exactly! These fuckers need to be forced to pay their fair share, by any means necessary.
@monirogue1570
@monirogue1570 Рік тому
@@somebonehead what if I told you many of the charities they get involved with, including big names that are considered "reputable" by the general public...are by and large not even using the money as intended and only a very small percentage of money donated is actually going towards whatever cause the charity claims the money is for? My blood has been boiling over for years now
@DrejaAndi
@DrejaAndi Рік тому
They'll just raise prices and make you pay for the "carbon offsets", then the executives will increase their salaries, bonuses, and benefits. Those executives will then just buy more houses, planes, and increase their individual carbon outputs by the equivalent of millions of people each.
@TentinQuarantino_
@TentinQuarantino_ Рік тому
Don’t forget the yachts! Kind of makes you root for pirates.
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
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@Marijuanifornia
@Marijuanifornia Рік тому
The best carbon offset is the Cannabis plant which grows quickly in every climate and takes in CO2 as it is growing. The USDA reported in 1916 that one acre of Cannabis can make more paper than four acres of trees. Ford made a plastic car with Cannabis in 1941. There is video of it on UKposts. The USDA legalized Cannabis in 1942 to win World War II. The 1942 USDA film *Hemp for Victory* is online from the US National Archives.
@lorcostridge2811
@lorcostridge2811 Рік тому
@@Marijuanifornia I was not expecting this at all but now I’m fully on board.
@Marijuanifornia
@Marijuanifornia Рік тому
​@@lorcostridge2811 I beg this show every week to just show the film to people. Bill Maher, John Oliver, Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert; literally anyone who isn't me could get millions of more people to know about this in a single day. This isn't taught in schools because it "promotes drugs." This isn't talked about in any news program, or even in online podcasts about Cannabis legalization. It is just sitting online at an official government website, and barely anyone in the country notices. There was even a bill in Congress titled HR 3652, the *Hemp for Victory Act of 2019.* Nothing. Not a word.
@CosmooreMusic
@CosmooreMusic Рік тому
The green power house as mentioned in the "Need to Grow" documentary is the best solution I've seen. A closed loop generator that sequesters carbon, grows algae & herbs, and creates biochar.
@benmungai5978
@benmungai5978 Рік тому
Am about to cite this video as a reputable source for my paper on climate change, and the ineffectiveness of carbon offsets.
@shoesncheese
@shoesncheese Рік тому
Carbon Offsets are a very capitalistic solution to the problem. It's a way to "fix" the issue without actually addressing the cause by throwing money at it. Companies still make record profits, still pollute just as much, can say they are "carbon neutral", and get a tax write-off for the expense. Carbon Offets makes them money. That's the only reason they're doing it.
@quesee08
@quesee08 Рік тому
Exactly. Its meant to drive profits not carbon footprints. On side note: I always noticed it's the poor that are always the receiving end of all these "conservation" projects. I came from third world country and since the 1980s I have seen projects in poor communities like sustainable fishing when the industrial fishing industries has never stop. And the irony of it is poor people usually have the lowest carbon footprint but they are the one who still have to sacrifice the most...
@alwynwatson6119
@alwynwatson6119 6 місяців тому
John Oliver should sell environmental offsets. That way, people can drive electric cars and still post about having a massive carbon footprint. Or companies can gain the technological benefits of decarbonisitng the supply chain whilst not being cancelled for being woke.
@gaberobison680
@gaberobison680 Рік тому
In short: don’t be surprised when the technique designed by companies to avoid responsibility doesn’t account for the issue at all
@questworldmatrix
@questworldmatrix Рік тому
Oh I'm sure they'll be paying some impoverished third world village to do voluntary suicide for $1000 a head as a carbon offset.
@Onigirli
@Onigirli Рік тому
@mikoy huio is delaying the inevitable more harm than good?
@artespeck8091
@artespeck8091 Рік тому
This issue is like eating 2 big macs w a side of large fries and having a diet coke as your drink
@johnsieverssr8288
@johnsieverssr8288 Рік тому
Thanks John
@bararobberbaron859
@bararobberbaron859 Рік тому
Love how Kitkat, rather than stopping with the child labor for their cacao, is spending on offsetting. I mean, in theory a good thing to do, but it's a very odd priority and presumably a cheaper way to positive press than stopping exploiting children.
@ids1024
@ids1024 Рік тому
Somehow child slavery offsets don't sound quite as good. "For each credit you buy, we'll pay someone not to enslave their child. Which they weren't going to do anyway. Which totally balances the slavery we profit from."
@FutureCommentary1
@FutureCommentary1 Рік тому
How are child labor and climate change linked? How would stopping the first slow down the second? Edited to add: I read you again. You didn't claim a link between the two. Another question then: why does it have to be one or the other?
@durnsidh6483
@durnsidh6483 Рік тому
@@FutureCommentary1 They should be doing both, but they are sweeping the child labor issue under the rug.
@Punnikin1969
@Punnikin1969 Рік тому
If those children earned a meal or something by planting a tree it would all balance out. Guilt-free Kit Kats for everyone. Slavery isn't going to go away any time soon, so we may as well use the free labor to gloss over another horrifying truth. Stop cutting down our slaves. Gimme a dollar every time you buy chocolate and I will pledge to preserve some exploited child laborers and make them plant trees where their home should have been.
@MrMischelito
@MrMischelito Рік тому
@@ids1024 this is so dark
@cle_roknn3742
@cle_roknn3742 Рік тому
So if you want your mind really blown: Finite Carbon, one of the companies running this type of program was bought out by British Petroleum. The same BP that brought you the Gulf oil spill. NCX was a small forestry operation before Microsoft, JPMorgan, and venture capital got involved. These companies are mostly owned or operated for the benefit of big business or venture capitalists. Their goal is not to offset carbon emissions, it’s to monetize a “feeling” of doing something good for the environment rather than actually doing anything…
@pamelacass9642
@pamelacass9642 Рік тому
Well....it just gives those companies an excuse to advertise lies about what they're not doing to help the environment. Why else would Elon try to hitch a ride off Earth to go f'ck another planet? Greta tried...she surely tried.
@barkYdarkATFB
@barkYdarkATFB Рік тому
It’s like “thoughts and prayers” 🙄
@FutureCommentary1
@FutureCommentary1 Рік тому
They are only doing it because consumers want the feeling that they are consuming from "good" companies. We are telling them: I want to crank up the AC in my gaz guzzling car; please lie to me.
@holly50575
@holly50575 Рік тому
Thank you for this comment!
@ryangram5281
@ryangram5281 7 місяців тому
There was a bit of controversy in my home town in rural New Zealand American companies bought farm land to plant red wood trees for carbon credits the problem was that the farm land is in a large flood prone valley so when they get harvested the debris is likely to cause significant damage to the towns in that valley
@dridadbunkerphd6523
@dridadbunkerphd6523 Рік тому
OMG! John's Shrek impersonation had me laughing out loud.
@Mokona127
@Mokona127 Рік тому
I work at a company doing carbon stocktaking and, yes, offsetting. If you or your company seeks to offset emissions, first of all, consult a European company, because the standards are much stricter. Trees are always a shaky investment, but if you insist on trees, see that you get a project with a replanting guarantee. That way, if the forest fires inevitably get to your 7 acre woods, the same amount will need to be planted again. Never use temporary credits. If you're looking for efficiency, ie cheap credits, consider heating- or cooking projects in developing nations. And please, big companies, stop ruining it for everybody.
@TheEmbrio
@TheEmbrio Рік тому
What could be a less shaky investment than trees ?
@Mag1cMerl1n
@Mag1cMerl1n Рік тому
@@TheEmbrio I'm guessing green energy so you can cut down fossile fuel stuff
@ombeline_beline
@ombeline_beline Рік тому
Big companies could also pay their fair amount of taxes to all the countries they operate in and therefore have those countries being able to sustain real protective environmental and forestry services with real scientists actually knowing what they're doing.
@bonniea8189
@bonniea8189 Рік тому
And what about wind farms, which the segment only glancingly touched on?
@mitchellblake1475
@mitchellblake1475 Рік тому
That last sentence applies to so much in this world
@SeanGHOB
@SeanGHOB Рік тому
Saw the title of this and, immediately, thought, "I'm going to see some Wendover content I already watched." Glad they added to the comedy. John Oliver is a funny guy.
@rickrolled3666
@rickrolled3666 Рік тому
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@blacksmeim8791
@blacksmeim8791 Рік тому
Jeez. UKposts will be overrun with bots.
@SolunaCreative
@SolunaCreative Рік тому
Last Week Tonight, your reporting was magnificent. Thank you for putting effort into investigating and sharing your findings. Outstanding!!
@wendykalthoff3214
@wendykalthoff3214 Рік тому
I am learning so much.
@HipyoTech
@HipyoTech Рік тому
9:50 OUR BOY WENDOVER
@garysantos7053
@garysantos7053 Рік тому
"Pollution, coupled with Human Greed and Stupidity, are the biggest threats to humanity." -Stephen Hawking
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Рік тому
Human greed and stupidity would be harmless with 5 billion fewer of them
@racindaze3450
@racindaze3450 Рік тому
You forgot to add " white elitist liberal, private jet flying, suv driving, finger waving fascists"
@saxyrep1
@saxyrep1 Рік тому
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Harmless?!? I have to disagree. That combo is a recipe for disaster no matter how many of us are out there. That said, it sure would reduce the pollution problem.🤷🏾‍♂️
@DgurlSunshine
@DgurlSunshine Рік тому
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 YOU FIRST
@My-Pal-Hal
@My-Pal-Hal Рік тому
Let's simplify that. Humans are the biggest threat to humanity. Or even simpler. A Threat to pretty much everything.
@basilcomitis7126
@basilcomitis7126 Рік тому
Awesome video, thank you.
@RoboticDragon
@RoboticDragon Рік тому
Oh my god you guys did amazing with this episode.
@pibyte
@pibyte Рік тому
9:33 Shoutout to Wendover Productions. Well deserved feature of a very good channel!
@june2420111
@june2420111 Рік тому
Glad John Oliver is increasing consumer awareness about green washing, companies are doing all kinds of things to avoid fundamentally changing their businesses. As consumers we need to hold them accountable and push for more. We want radical change, no fossil fuel, no 1-time plastic, accurate tracking of ethical supply chains, reusing 100% of trash, etc.
@beeroslava
@beeroslava Рік тому
Yes!
@miskatonic6210
@miskatonic6210 Рік тому
So stop flying, stop eating meat, don't use cars and only buy clothes once a year. Btw reusing trash uses a lot of energy.
@ZebraGirl97
@ZebraGirl97 Рік тому
I do have some concerns about flat out saying no 1-time plastics. I think the amount of 1 time plastics we actually need vs what is convenient is an important discussion, but I have a genetic disease and have a central line (a catheter) in my chest that ends in my right atrium of my heart. I have always felt guilty for the amount of single use plastics I have to use to stay alive - in the form of sterile saline flushes, single dose medications, IV fluid bags, IV tubing, and medical supplies for the line. But they can't be reused because they literally are injected into the largest vein before the heart or your heart, and the risk of sepsis is massive if you aren't meticulous with sterilized, single use products. But I wouldn't be alive without it. I just remind people of this when we talk about completely eradicating single use plastics. Recycling and sterilizing can help minimize the impact, and I absolutely agree that the rampant use of single plastics in the vast majority of businesses like restaurants, shipping companies, large businesses like Amazon, and so many other situations is inexcusable and unnecessary. But there's a sizable amount of medical care that simply would not be safe with multi-use products. The amount of people that would die without single use sterile plastics is staggering, because cross infection risk or improper sterilization is a massive issue for immunocompromised or high risk folks relying on these supplies to be alive. Just my take.
@Greenitthe
@Greenitthe Рік тому
@@miskatonic6210 While generally good ideas, personal lifestyle changes aren't meaningful. Pressuring corporations and legislatures is the only way to make a substantial impact. Consumer responsibility is a marketing campaign meant to shift blame away from the largest polluters - corporations.
@OnesFan1
@OnesFan1 Рік тому
You forget abolishing animal agriculture industry, which causes the loss of 2 thirds of the forests we need, emits more green house gasses than all the types of transportation combined, pollutes the water and creates zoonotic diseases pandemics. Is a radical change that we all can do at an individual level, and will have a biggest impact since we are more than companies. Go plant base for the planet.
@jordanferreri5377
@jordanferreri5377 Рік тому
The offset your pig joke got me, man.. The Dutch accident is hilarious!
@AngeloGiannatos
@AngeloGiannatos Рік тому
Excellent!!
@krmr
@krmr Рік тому
The audience overlap between Sam/Wendover and John Oliver is huge. John's trying to harness this is awesome 😎
@dirankesuma
@dirankesuma Рік тому
fr bro wasn't expecting a wendover video in here
@Jemppu
@Jemppu Рік тому
I was so excited to hear Sam's voice!! :D Kid's made it.
@hiendkle
@hiendkle Рік тому
Wait, what?
@pvic6959
@pvic6959 Рік тому
idk if i should be concerned there didnt seem to be any credit...
@YT-Lucas
@YT-Lucas Рік тому
@@pvic6959 there was, Wendover was noted while the video played. I think the biggest question is when John Oliver will be brave enough to cover the brick situation.
@krysto2012
@krysto2012 Рік тому
Asking consumers to pitch in $2 to offset their carbon footprint absolutely reeks of the 2000s recycling campaigns which saddled the everyman with the burden of saving the environment - 'it's your fault for using too much electricity, not recycling as much' etc, meanwhile major corporations had absolutely massive footprints and couldn't be bothered to budge and inch. They're shifting the responsibility onto us again and we're somehow falling for it again.
@gothboschincarnate3931
@gothboschincarnate3931 Рік тому
its easy to fool the weak minded....
@WoefulMinion
@WoefulMinion Рік тому
@@gothboschincarnate3931 I think the majority of people see right through it.
@ichijofestival2576
@ichijofestival2576 Рік тому
Meanwhile, the executives are taking home millions in bonuses. Even _if_ those $2 pittances are somehow shielded from their for-profit funds, do you think there's even a _chance_ that the end result, in-effect, isn't that you're paying into those bonuses anyway? At this point, you just can't take a corporation's "charity" at face value.
@moresalad221
@moresalad221 Рік тому
Take a look at the data for pollution contribution from animal factory farming. It's insane that people like to turn one cheek when I hinders their own cultural and biased one sided arguments about why it is that they'd rather eat animal based products.
@sdfkjgh
@sdfkjgh Рік тому
@@moresalad221: I am completely honest in my arguments for eating animal products: They're delicious, and while I have proven to myself that I can live without them, that time spent proving so was utterly miserable, and I never want to repeat it. So, tl;dr: animals are delicious, and eating their meats brings me joy.
@eternity8811
@eternity8811 11 місяців тому
Offsets are like urinating into our water supply while adding some water too.
@khuzaimahhaleem4994
@khuzaimahhaleem4994 Рік тому
Wendover made it to the Oliver's show. Well, that was a surprise to say the least!!!!
@empressclown
@empressclown Рік тому
Regarding the shovel made out of a KitKat not being sustainable: the crunchy insides of a KitKat bar are other pulverized KitKat bars that were broken or misshapen during production. KitKats eat themselves. That's already minimal waste and a commitment to sustainability.
@spongeintheshoe
@spongeintheshoe Рік тому
...That's also kind of gross, given it's food we're talking about.
@Prophes0r
@Prophes0r Рік тому
That's...not what 'sustainability' means...
@adambuchbinder2791
@adambuchbinder2791 Рік тому
@@Prophes0r It is! If you make something and you're less wasteful about it, that's more sustainable! Also, this is the difference between "post-consumer recycled content" and "recycled content"; things can be recycled before they leave the plant in the first place.
@Prophes0r
@Prophes0r Рік тому
@@adambuchbinder2791 No...it literally isn't. Sustainable : of, relating to, or being a method of harvesting or using a resource so that the resource is not depleted or permanently damaged Using your scraps to make more product is 'waste-reduction' Using the profits to run farms to grow your own ingredients/packaging/fuel would be sustainable. There is no such thing as 'more' or 'less' sustainable. It is a Yes/No state. Don't fall for all that nonsense marketing speak that's just there to make you feel good about the same old garbage. You are smarter than that.
@sdfkjgh
@sdfkjgh Рік тому
@@spongeintheshoe: It's all rather like that common trope in advertising that nobody ever thinks enough about to realize the rammifications: one anthropomorphized item of food eating another anthorpomorphized item of the same type of food; or anthropped food being happy to be eaten. One is cannibalism, the other is, idk, fatalism? An homage to _The Hitchhikker's Guide to the Galaxy?_ All I know is, Wienerschnitzel had the right idea a few years ago when they depicted their spokeshotdog constantly screaming in terror and running away from those who sought to eat him.
@Choochinc
@Choochinc Рік тому
"Not cutting down trees shouldn't be hard" My town: Excuse us while we cut down acres of forest for no reason at all, and do absolutely nothing with the newly cleared land. Also, no trespassing.
@honeyartstudios
@honeyartstudios Рік тому
What is Haiti, Alex?
@vysharra
@vysharra Рік тому
The trees are likely the point. Lumber is very valuable, especially if the trees are big and/or old.
@LeBonkJordan
@LeBonkJordan Рік тому
@@vysharra Oxygen tends to be a lot more valuable, but sure, let's just mow down all these old growth forests to temporarily sate the shareholders' insatiable hunger for infinite human expansion so we can make a line go up because It's Good When The Line Goes Up
@jackvalior
@jackvalior Рік тому
@@LeBonkJordan You do know phytoplankton and cyanobacteria in our ocean is our main source of Oxygen, right? I do study climate science as a degree at uni, and I'm pretty sure we dont have to worry about running out of air any time soon. Air pollution is a real and huge threat though, and trees help alleviate that. It is just that the oxygen argument comes from an uninformed position that simplified tree as oxygen producer and carbon eater. (They do produce carbon as well at night). Simplification like this is why there are folks that just say more CO2, bigger tree/crop better world. TL:dr Trees be good for non-oxygen related reasons.
@LeBonkJordan
@LeBonkJordan Рік тому
@@jackvalior Won't warmer oceans kill off much of the phytoplankton? And that's around 50% of the world's oxygen production, right?
@Khakasa
@Khakasa Рік тому
Catching up on John Oliver and at the KitKat ad I honestly went to skip ad.. sigh. Ok. Back to the watching 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
@plutoisaplanet5533
@plutoisaplanet5533 Рік тому
those set designers deserve an award the tree scenery made for that skit was so gorgeous and a lot for a minute long joke
@sebastianbarrios7288
@sebastianbarrios7288 Рік тому
The focus on companies should always had been that they have to minimize their own carbon emissions instead of giving an escape by having them say "well we are producing more trees over there that dont account much for what we do, and will take years to grow into something that properly does its job, while every single day we still emit the same carbon and do nothing about it". What's going to be the escape once we run out of space for these offset projects?, because as always actually fixing the damn problem will always be the last priority.
@tonygabagool
@tonygabagool Рік тому
This is exactly how Tesla became too big to fail. Selling electric vehicle certificates to manufacturers without even making said ev yet
@BasedKungFu
@BasedKungFu Рік тому
Well now that rich people can take space tours, I think it's pretty obvious what their back up plan is when the planet inevitably burns.
@jtylermcclendon
@jtylermcclendon Рік тому
You're right that corporations should be held accountable. Now they just try to push off the burden on others. However, as a farmer I am in a position to change farming practices that sequester carbon, and a business like an airline is not. A transfer mechanism that lets the airline pay a farmer to sequester carbon makes sense. The practices we would do are so costly they would never be done if we don't get some money back in exchange.
@traveller23e
@traveller23e Рік тому
@@jtylermcclendon Although a law requiring the farmer to sequester carbon rather than just allowing airlines to pay them to do so would be more effective. Best if funded at least in part through the government, to prevent food prices from immediately skyrocketing. Better yet if the government got the money necessary through high taxes on corporations involved in large carbon emissions. Consider it a mechanism to _force_ the airline to pay the farmer to do this, without letting the airline claim to be carbon-neutral.
@jtylermcclendon
@jtylermcclendon Рік тому
@@traveller23e my experience over that last 10+ years is that when policies and programs are put in place they push the costs on the farmer with no real benefit to the farmer. The bigger issue is that consumers will not pay a higher price for goods because they are sustainable. There are individual products that are exceptions, but in aggregate consumers will not pay more and just buy the cheapest product. Environmentally friendly has really just become a marketing message that isn't pushed unless it increases profits. I am generally small government, but I think I agree with you in principle but would change it so that the regulatory burden is at the consumer level, meaning the goods havrle to meet a standard. From there it would flow back to the manufacturing process at the farm level, but consumers have to pay for it. Farmers wind up holding the bag because we are a small group and don't have lobbying power compared to corporations. Similarly, politicians would rather place the burden on farmers because we are approximately 1% of the vote versus the number of votes from general consumers.
@dudeitel
@dudeitel Рік тому
I wish he had talked about how a lot of tree planting initiatives aren't done with proper biodiversity conservation objectives in mind, which can lead to monocultures or invasive species that harm ecosystems, and other issues. Also, when these trees are planted, there are usually no management measures for who looks after those trees, and a lot of those trees can just end up dying anyway. Even if it's done right, ***tree planting cannot replace older forests***; older forests have SIGNIFICANTLY more value for carbon storage due to their complex structures and large trees-the potential to mitigate carbon emissions increases by at least 600% by preserving intact forests and avoiding associated forest degradation practices. So it's *MUCH* more valuable to preserve forests than to plant new trees. It's not a one-for-one trade because it would take at least a hundred years for new forests to develop properly, and we don't have that kind of time to wait. I work in this field so it's something I hope more people can understand! I suggest anyone who is interested in this topic to check out these open-access scientific papers on it: Maxwell, S. L., Evans, T., Watson, J. E. M., Morel, A., Grantham, H., Duncan, A., … Malhi, Y. (2019). Degradation and forgone removals increase the carbon impact of intact forest loss by 626%. Science Advances, 5(10), eaax2546. doi: 10.1126/sciadv.aax2546 www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.aax2546 Di Sacco, A., Hardwick, K. A., Blakesley, D., Brancalion, P. H. S., Breman, E., Cecilio Rebola, L., … Antonelli, A. (2021). Ten golden rules for reforestation to optimize carbon sequestration, biodiversity recovery and livelihood benefits. Global Change Biology, 27(7), 1328-1348. doi: 10.1111/gcb.15498 onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/gcb.15498
@lan9741
@lan9741 Рік тому
Thank you very much for mentioning this! I watched the whole time, hoping he would address the subject, but sadly nothing... Seeing as this was a very recent topic for me with Alexandre Antonelli coming to my Uni, I especially appreciate the sources you linked :) I really hope more people read up on this, since public pressure is the only thing able to induce change.
@blixten2928
@blixten2928 Рік тому
Great, thanks! I'll use that in my class on "sustainability", where we look for succinct ways to understand, critique and (maybe) help improve the whole off-setting thing.
@dudeitel
@dudeitel Рік тому
@@lan9741 happy to share, and what a coincidence that he went to your uni recently! I agree that public pressure is super important. I guess the pressure to become 'eco-friendly' is causing companies to greenwash too since they assume that consumers won't know any better and they get credit for appearing like they care about the planet. Hope we can all raise awareness and hold companies and others accountable
@dudeitel
@dudeitel Рік тому
@@blixten2928 really glad to hear you'll use it in your class! :))
@sderoski1
@sderoski1 Рік тому
The human caused mass extinction is a category of crime that has to be invented, like mass genocide or something
@nystria_
@nystria_ Рік тому
It's not just planting new trees, it's leaving old growth alone going forward. Contrary to popular belief, old trees are actually the healthiest trees and are pretty necessary.
@atticusrussel3485
@atticusrussel3485 Рік тому
whilst they are decently important, younger trees are better for taking co2 out of the atmosphere since they need carbon to grow.
@omarrp14
@omarrp14 Рік тому
Wendover production is in the big leagues! Never thought I’d see a major/main stream media use his vids
@chazdomingo475
@chazdomingo475 Рік тому
I live in a rural area with many "dirt poor" land owners. All of our timberland is basically clear cut at this point. It is in the Southeast so the land should be completely forested, but you can drive for miles through the country side and see nothing be waste and devastation from clearcutting. If these offsets could prevent such a catastrophe they could be able to do good, but again, there is little incentive in a capitalist system to do good for good's sake. The bottom line is profits, and the rest is controlling the narrative. I don't believe capitalism is a solution and I know capitalism is why all the land is being clearcut and corrupted with pollution.
@Grintock
@Grintock Рік тому
See, if you set up a well-regulated system, capitalism definitely can be the solution. A decent example is the EU-ETS using economic incentives to optimise CO2-reduction.
@DesiGalCrochet
@DesiGalCrochet Рік тому
Capitalism is the reason we are in this mess. It can't be the solution as well.
@aaronb1195
@aaronb1195 Рік тому
Free-market vs. command-and-control economy arguments are misplaced here. The Soviet Union fostered some of the worst environmental catastrophes in human history, and they were hardly capitalists. No economic system inherently internalizes externalities without a lot of work.
@theshunzun
@theshunzun Рік тому
@@Grintock if that were possible, it would’ve already happened. The systemic components are already here. It just doesn’t happen because it’s not as profitable to do so.
@theshunzun
@theshunzun Рік тому
@@aaronb1195 ​ nobody said anything about command-and-control economics, or the Soviet Union. The concern is capitalism can’t be the solution to a problem it created. If something is not profitable in the market, no business will pursue it. That unfortunately includes reforesting cleared land like what the OP described above anecdotally.
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