Carbon Tax rebate: Do you really get back more than you pay? | About That
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Місяць томуOn April 1, Canada's carbon tax goes up. Again. But when you factor in the carbon tax rebate, do you end up getting back more than you pay? Andrew Chang breaks down the finances of the carbon tax and why the answer is more complicated than you think.
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@georgekirby3361 Місяць тому
A tax on fuel(energy) is a tax on everything you absolute muppets.
@annetoronto5474 Місяць тому
Yes, on EVERYTHING!
@bradenking111 Місяць тому
No (direct) tax on solar, wind, nuclear, hydro, geothermal, wood in your woodstove etc - just the dino juice.
@faiththrower7951 Місяць тому
Totalky agree and the pittan ce we recieve back can't possibly cover everything affected by fuel. Rip off
@POVwithRC Місяць тому
And most are using petrochemicals so what is your point @@bradenking111
@tekskilldev8310 Місяць тому
@@faiththrower7951 So no matter how hard data shows the facts would not conform with your prejudiced view that carbon tax is the main culprit causing inflationary pressure and the crucifixion of poor and low income Canadians as bullhorned by dear leader Poilievre.
@reginaldberringer8304 27 днів тому
Really, a news agency funded by the federal government giving an opinion that Cardon tax isn't really driving prices up, really ?
@user-qr1eg9zw8k 18 днів тому
Most would dump fossil fuels at the blink of an eye.Just can't.
@haroldbernard3505 14 днів тому
Grocery stores making record profits. They are blaming the carbon tax, but their profits are far higher than the carbon tax accounts for.
@therrydicule 7 днів тому
Except it's not just the CBC, it's at least 200 economists, some studies, banks... Basically the idea that the carbon tax is causing inflation is popular on the same right that rejects the existence of global warming and doesn't want to do jack. In fact, they want to subsidize the oil even more because "CO2 is plant food" - even if they don't want to receive 50 pizzas for tonight... Pizza is human food, so getting more Pizza means humans will grow quicker, right? Certainly there would be no side effects to eating 50 pizzas tonight!
@-odinfire-2324 3 дні тому
@@haroldbernard3505 - Omfg. THEY ARE BOTH DOING IT. WAKE UP
@leonardstener9522 28 днів тому
If 8 out of 10 families get more money back in rebate than they pay in tax, why was it necessary to pause carbon tax increases on home heating oil for Atlantic Canadians? Doesn’t the pause make them worse off?
@papaprankster101 24 дні тому
excellent point
@Walexo45 24 дні тому
And the Liberals know they know need Atlantic voters, so they know Canadians are worse off with this tax. They know it.
@kwuiki23 24 дні тому
Exactly. They're just hypocrites. Nothing new about it.
@wetchicken2007 24 дні тому
Because the Liberals on the east coast were under pressure. It's all political.
@JdjdbNdjdb 24 дні тому
its a lie. dont forget you pay carbon tax on groceries too
@lazerlorne2670 25 днів тому
Farm fuel isn't taxed, but fuel to heat barns, dry grain, heat green houses is taxed. You didn’t talk about that.
@johnbradley2879 24 дні тому
That and farm fuel is only not taxed if you get it delivered, meaning to get the tax exemption a farmer has to spend more getting it delivered
@RockyAlajoki 19 днів тому
@@johnbradley2879don't forget that the truck delivering fuel is BURNING fuel that most likely has a carbon tax on it, increasing the delivery costs FOR that farmers fuel.
@johnbradley2879 19 днів тому
@@RockyAlajoki yup
@PaulBell-nn5lu 7 днів тому
They ignored so much, purposely
@-odinfire-2324 3 дні тому
Exactly
@gpgt1 Місяць тому
Large businesses don't get carbon rebates, they pass the cost onto all consumers.
@toddpowers2936 28 днів тому
this is covered by the rebate
@BudzzableRides 27 днів тому
Taxpayers that make time payments receive NO REBATE. Great little scam to get out of paying the rebate.
@rh7163 27 днів тому
Large business's have CEO's who get bonus's which is deducted from the corporate tax being paid. Remember PM Harper ? Well, it was his corporate scheme to lower the corporate tax and did so even though nobody took to the streets to demand lower corporate taxes. A few weeks later, he came up with the scheme and premise to inform Canadians that Canada could no longer afford Canada Pension. That blew up in his face and now Poilivre is the next Corporate Messiah to run for PM which brings me to wonder who will pay for all the things that lower corporate taxes no longer pays for ? Well, higher taxes along with a higher deficit may be passed on while the banks provide more credit cards with higher interest with their own cash back schemes. Who pays ? Well, it isn 't the retailers as they simply charge more for their goods and services with a little extra so they get some cash back too. Guess you pays the higher prices or do you really believe it all comes down to higher shipping and productions costs ?
@PappaJon2009 27 днів тому
@@toddpowers2936no, it really isn't.
@KManAbout 27 днів тому
It is that cost is accounted for as an increase in inflation which the boc works out to be 0.15% @PappaJon2009
@suptoday Місяць тому
It’s a scam plain and simple .
@jeta1-fsii63 Місяць тому
@Stormlight16 Must be nice living in mommy's basement with all the bills taken care for you uh? Must be nice collecting low income benefits right?
@where2915 Місяць тому
@jeta1-fsii63 it's hilarious watching these guys continue to project their own insecurities by attacking ppl personally like this instead of offering an actually intelligent viewpoint
@suptoday Місяць тому
@Stormlight16😂 I watched the propaganda piece . It’s a scam buddy . Pollieve didn’t destroy our country and then spit in my face with more tax .
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
@@suptoday it is a scam because you feel it is? Can you back it up?
@jonk5669 29 днів тому
Conservatives supported the scam being implemented in the first place. They just didn't want the scam to get this out of hand.
@Vrag1 27 днів тому
Dear CBC, explain to me how are long haul trucks supposed to stop their emissions? By not operating? There sure aren't emission free alternatives for those vehicles, are there? Or are we supposed to stop eating instead?
@jamesphillips2285 27 днів тому
Yes! If the rail companies can get their heads out of their asses: they should be able to handle the long-distance movement of goods. Since rails don't move: they can electrify quite easily without massive batteries (using overhead lines). The problem is that North American rail companies are currently obsessed with "precision scheduled railroading". This is a system of cost-cutting involving running overly long trains to save on infrastructure and staffing costs. The problems are: 1. Long trains no longer fit in sidings, so trains can't pass one another 2. Long trains get delayed, so staff are forced to work unpredictable hours 3. The lack of scheduling means that the railroads can only move low-value bulk freight.
@zen1647 27 днів тому
Maybe find ways that are more energy efficient: rail, using fuel efficient vehicles, minimising the weight of the load....
@GabLeGamer 26 днів тому
@@zen1647 if you minimize the weight of the load, you need more loads. 1500km takes around 500 litres of diesel at max legal weight. Empty I might be able to stretch it to 1800 km with the same amount of fuel. So if you have 160 000 lbs of goods to transport, 2 trucks at 80 000 lbs will burn less fuel than 4 trucks at 40 000lbs.
@michaelwilton8335 25 днів тому
@@jamesphillips2285 I think you need to consider alot of things before you just say that rail companies can electrify their trains.
@thegreenxeno9430 25 днів тому
North American rail is responsible for a significant amount of carbon emissions. It may be an alternative in the future, but it is not a viable choice to reduce emissions today.
@F_e_l 27 днів тому
So how many ppl does the gov employ to "process" this collect and rebate process?
@annaowczarek3747 26 днів тому
A lot! If you consider that the number of government workers has increased by 40% since 2015, the bigger the government, the bigger the money laundering operation we are dealing with.
@greatmatt301 25 днів тому
Well thats something you will have to ask the provincial governments as well.
@jerrykurl69 25 днів тому
20% of the entire country works for the government.
@chrisbadger282 25 днів тому
@@annaowczarek3747 yup 20% of canadians are now employed by the government most in history umm ya lets vote ourselves a rise today since we have done such a great job for canadians !
@kevinn9802 Місяць тому
Very misleading as most restaurants operate with natural gas to cook food. Higher costs at restaurants equal higher prices. How can anyone say that they dont eat out, or cook at home, and are not affected?. No one will be able to just get free money as nothing is free from government, just a way to take someone else money and hand it to another group.
@metalheadlass9868 28 днів тому
You can make free money if you just eat sashimi😂
@user-hl8li7ib7g 28 днів тому
Dammit I ate some the other day where is my money??? Haha@@metalheadlass9868
@sjbutler2330 28 днів тому
It's like switching potholes on our roads, and in our cities!
@petersilva037 28 днів тому
induction cooking is now as fast as gas, and uses 90% less electricity than old electric stoves... In the rest of the world, induction cooking has been popular for decades, because it's cheaper and easier to work with.
@orcapeanuts8303 27 днів тому
Have you ever been to any, any restaurant and ask the cook if they can get any work done with induction stove? Do you think a family owned business struggling to make ends meet will spend thousands in pots and pans induction compatible?
@AZ-bp5zo Місяць тому
We Canadians demand an election as soon as possible!
@NPCMii Місяць тому
Immediately!
@DBeau73 Місяць тому
Great, you Canadians complained when Trudeau called the last elections because he was spending tax payers money. And now you Canadians want another early elections because the Conservatives lost the last one. You Canadians should pay for that early elections as we the other Canadians surely don't want to pay for your demands.
@maximedorion9244 Місяць тому
You don't speak for me.
@user-br6qh2jq6v Місяць тому
Yes
@153eddy Місяць тому
💯 agree
@mathewbaldwin5277 27 днів тому
This is 1.3billion dollar propaganda at work!
@jimmccoal2693 14 днів тому
Defund the CBC !
@YokubouTenshi 26 днів тому
What the report on estimated cost to Canadians missed is the billions of tax dollars we have to pay to a "consulting firm" to run this program.
@zen1647 25 днів тому
Is that less than other programs designed to lower emissions? That's the real question.
@bonniedale1 Місяць тому
The poor rural areas of the country where you have to drive 50 km to a grocery store definitely do not recoup the carbon tax.
@jamesryan7684 29 днів тому
If you actually did looked up the facts which are posted and easily accessible you would find that addresses in rural areas get a lot more in their rebates. It varies per province.
@bonniedale1 29 днів тому
@@jamesryan7684 We are seniors living in Rural Saskatchewan. We drive a hybrid car and have electric heat. We are 50km from nearest grocery store, dentist, doctors , pharmacy etc and 300km from specialist health services. Our carbon rebate doesn’t cover even half of the additional carbon tax we pay directly let alone the additional cost on items that have gone up due to the manufacturing, transportation, warehousing , etc because of carbon taxing.
@waynekibbler2710 29 днів тому
@@jamesryan7684 Hmmm NOPE I got a rebate deposited for a whopping $143 last June have not seen a cent since. I am rural only 14Km to the grocery and everything is more than it is in the city. NO I do not make more, I moved to rural since I could not afford a home in the city. There is no way Turdo is speaking the truth in any capacity, it is all #bullshit
@jamesryan7684 29 днів тому
@@waynekibbler2710 Sure. Do you have auto deposit enabled? You should get a cheque every quarter. Did you bother to look up what constitutes rural and if you qualify? What province do you live in? As I said every province is different. The premium for rural in Ontario is 10%. If you are not getting your cheques maybe it's because you moved. Why don't you call about them it? Trudeau isn't lying, or that would be a huge news item. Also food in a small or independent country grocery store is always more than in the city.
@nickyalousakis3851 29 днів тому
nobody will. the first issue is that a govt that administers this will immediately eat up ten percent. any economist that tells you eight in ten families who pay eight dollars into this - and gets ten dollars back....is a muppet. further, taxes shrink economies. lastly and this is the big one.... carbon taxing is ineffective at two things. it doesn't change behavior and it fails to lower emissions. it's an antiquated idea from two decades ago where other countries particularly scandinavian ones have abandoned carbon tax schemes for more intelligent ideas. in particular investment in new and developing technologies. this is where the answer is. not tax..
@kerryanderson3216 Місяць тому
You didn’t mention that every business pays and gets Nothing back. Big deal to ignore
@jack8167 26 днів тому
but the money has to come from somewhere, and the prices of the products/services will go up. Some goes up a little, some business involving more manufacturing processes will go up a whole lot more. There is no way these couple hundred dollars will cover anything
@francism4226 26 днів тому
They don't pay it because they pass it down to consumers
@hansjansen7047 26 днів тому
They don't need to get anything back because they just pass it on to the next level, and eventually to the consumer.
@dothedeed 5 днів тому
That's the point. The fact they will pay incentives them to switch from fossil fuels to renewables.
@TheLonelyMister 26 днів тому
I want 12 minutes of my life back after watching this and listening to word vomit
@fredrobinson4332 24 дні тому
What would do with twenty minutes? Close your eyes to your enemy named reality?lol
@JulietMartin2022 19 днів тому
This is pure and blatant Trudeau propaganda. I’ve never received carbon rebates and don’t even know how to apply for them.
@jimmccoal2693 14 днів тому
I didn't watch , I know their narrative. Just reading comments. Defund the CBC !
@briandecasa5444 27 днів тому
It's fascinating how the tables have turned. It used to be mainstream media scrutinizing government but here we have a dedicated piece playing defense.
@Lucasjamespetersen 26 днів тому
because, if you hadn't not noticed, the climate crisis is getting extremely real. canadians have some of the highest per capita emissions on the planet. economic disincentive to burn fuel is direly needed.
@alexandermathew9909 26 днів тому
@@Lucasjamespetersen Doesnt change the fact that the media is not allowed to check the government anymore. Everything is easily accepted.
@sirushill21 26 днів тому
@Lucasjamespetersen yes and people were setting the fires. Not climate change lol
@jeffgrainger9646 25 днів тому
@Lucasjamespetersen you know what's real? Record numbers at food banks across the country.
@bob6yt7 25 днів тому
@@LucasjamespetersenHighest per capita is not an accurate reflection of our global impact. We have a large land mass, ship goods from coast to coast to coast, winter climate requiring heat. Canada contributes 1.5% of GHG emissions globally. Even if we cut our emissions in half, an impossible feat, that would amount to a 0.75% drop globally. Meanwhile, China and India and many other nations that lack government regulations, simply don’t care and continue to increase emissions.
@MrTrda Місяць тому
I am absolutely ashamed of this government
@dennisheyes4561 Місяць тому
Like most governments. They did some good things, they did some not so good things.
@MrTrda Місяць тому
@@dennisheyes4561 tell me your a “know it all” without telling me your a “know it all”
@nofbi8582 29 днів тому
@@MrTrda Bruh he... has a point, chill out. I know you're seeing red but. Chill out.
@jonk5669 29 днів тому
@nofbi8582 what good has the current government done?
@LOGIBEAR01 29 днів тому
@@dennisheyes4561they did many bad things and hardly any good.
@stacymclean7286 Місяць тому
Here's a thought. Fuel is used for the transportation of goods at every level of the supply chain and grocery stores will have to heat their stores. Carbon tax increases the cost of transportation and heating... do we really expect the corporations to absorb the cost of carbon taxes instead of passing it on to the consumers?
@nuxkamina Місяць тому
If capitalism worked there would be competition in the market and a corporation that passed less onto consumers would be likely more profitable.
@FarmingGoneWild Місяць тому
If you watched the video the math works out to 0.15% that business pay more in costs. So a tiny tiny fraction of a percent of inflation is due to carbon tax. You goof
@tommyshanks4198 Місяць тому
@@nuxkaminacapitalism works for consumers, but oligopolies do not.
@lelunie Місяць тому
I don't think you understand what the purpose of the tax is. The tax isn't meant to change carbon producing behaviours. For the average citizien, this doesn't impact them even after business adjust for added cost because these people are getting money back to cover these offsets.
@stacymclean7286 Місяць тому
@@FarmingGoneWild how's that measured? did you look into the report on all the assumptions made? or do you choose to believe what CBC tells you?
@ElephantGirl-uk3cr 27 днів тому
Why are politicians always flanked by mute people? I can't think of a good reason.
@jamesphillips2285 27 днів тому
Only one person can speak, but they don't write their speeches alone.
@cliffm8112 25 днів тому
They are Yes! persons
@DavidHalverson 24 дні тому
looks great having two or three people who are nodding yes to everything you spout out of your mouth as a politician or CEO of a corporation. Great job for 'bobble heads'.
@JingleJenkins-oi1tf 23 дні тому
anyone who thinks this government is gonna make money out of their money is a lost cause 😂😂😂 2.9 TRILLION IN DEBT!!!!
@Bhartiya2005 Місяць тому
This guy is only half right. Fuel price goes up. Transportation cost goes up. Who will absorb that cost? Naturally businesses will not. Pass on to consumers.
@VideoGameMarimbist Місяць тому
He said exactly that. Did you even listen? Try rewatching at 8:45 again.
@mikeb5664 Місяць тому
Name a time when consumers didn't pay for costs?
@DirtyDog995 Місяць тому
Especially now that diesel is quite a bit higher than petrol (about $.50/l more in Alberta)
@j2simpso Місяць тому
Businesses always eat up the cost of extra taxes and fees. Just means less dividends for shareholders. Don’t believe me? Look at the UK and their air passenger duty. It caused airfares to drop!
@wayneandrews1022 Місяць тому
This analysis does actually help a it to understand the numbers, though as with most it’s still missing some fundamental aspects. One being what is surely the astronomical cost to taxpayers to fund the government (and banking) administration of this tax and return scheme. Second, is it having the desired effect - are people buying and burning less fossil fuel? That should be easy to find out. Third and most importantly, is it having any measurable effect on climate change? When asked, the experts say “it’s complicated”. But we’re doing it anyway despite the fact that Canada’s contribution to GHGs are miniscule on the global scale. Rather than continue a dubious social engineering experiment, we should be funding R&D toward migration to alternative energy such as nuclear and to adaptation of human life in a changing climate (if, in fact, it is changing fundamentally or only cyclically).
@j.sebastien Місяць тому
Telling Canadians they will have to pay 21$ more for 100L of diesel and keep a straight face. wow
@AngelaAsks Місяць тому
That's what I thought too. Unreal. Very out of touch.
@VideoGameMarimbist Місяць тому
It might just be time to stop commuting in jacked up pickup trucks. Never made much sense to me that you would drive one to a assembly welding job anyways. Gonna make more sense to only drive those big trucks if you actually have a use for one like if you haul farm equipment or livestock with your truck. Otherwise, try an electric car. The instant acceleration is way more fun than you might expect!
@poopinfruz9771 Місяць тому
@@VideoGameMarimbist My diesel truck gets better MPG then my compact car since It's a pre-emission engine tuned down for economy.... Why would I burn more fuel and stop driving it?
@MajRAV Місяць тому
@@VideoGameMarimbist Why not?
@VideoGameMarimbist Місяць тому
@@poopinfruz9771 Because the difference in sale price alone would offset the cost of fuel. You could sell the truck and buy a new electric car for about the same cost then have no fuel cost. Depending on your electricity cost, you can get an 80% savings per kilometer. If you need a truck to move a couch some time then rent a uhaul for like $30 or phone a friend who needs a truck for their job.
@nonamesleftxxo4623yx 27 днів тому
Seriously! We know this is increasing the costs of food and the most basic necessities of life! Oh, state media doesn't like all the data.
@stallioni 26 днів тому
they mention that metric but I guess you don't watch content just read headlines
@anonymous134y 26 днів тому
@@stallioni they said the carbon tax didn't raise the prices but canadians are paying more on average. Think a bit with that empty coconut
@stallioni 26 днів тому
@@anonymous134y They actually do say the carbon tax increases prices and even display charts with adjusted averages. See minute 9:30. Again did you watch it?
@tudvalstone 26 днів тому
The tax fuels inflation. Even if you get back what you directly paid on the tax, you'll pay a lot more on everything, above the tax. There's also a HST tax on top of the carbon tax. You are NOT getting that back.
@stephenr6194 Місяць тому
What about HST on top of Carbon tax huh? Why is that? Nothing to do with environment just tax grab my friend!
@theresina123 Місяць тому
The HST was introduced by the Conservatives, still here today, why now complain about Carbon Tax😂
@Nov1706 Місяць тому
@@theresina123Has literally nothing to do with Canada in 2024. Keep playing your colour, red/blue games while the adults are talking, sweetie.
@theresina123 Місяць тому
Ok sweetie pie, will shut right up. 😅
@POVwithRC Місяць тому
@@theresina123Thank you for doing so. Whataboutisms are threadbare at this time.
@Carrie-so3ro Місяць тому
OF COURSE it STILL has to do with today - or was the HST tax eliminated at some point & somehow I don't know about it? You seem to be missing the whole point - it's just gone RIGHT over your head.@@Nov1706
@BaineFritzler Місяць тому
4:50 pm. FYI electricity is not at zero carbon tax. All the transportation costs for consumer goods and food are subject to carbon tax. All businesses do not get rebates. All our schools, churches and municipal buildings and maintenance are subject to carbon tax.
@mauricester 27 днів тому
where I live we pay a carbon tax on our Electricity,,,, I am glad you mentioned that schools, churches and municipal buildings and maintenance are subject to carbon tax,, not to be critcal,, the number one user of Electricity , Natural Gas,, and even Diesel,( back up generators and heating) would be Hospitals,,, ,, so more cost for the healthcare system,, 🙄👍
@rambleonfinance 28 днів тому
Imagine how much money you would get back if you just started eating bugs and lived under a bridge.
@Delete_85 28 днів тому
The next step in the liberal housing plan involves a Home Donation Rebate
@danheuser5148 27 днів тому
No one's saying you can’t have some carbon emissions. Think of a the carbon tax rebates as your quota for how much carbon you can emit for free. Beyond that, we're going to pay for climate change one way or another, it's just a matter of how much. If we all do nothing, and extreme weather events continue to get more and more out of hand, then it could get far worse than a few hundred dollars per year. Some people in the US can't get home insurance now because the risk of forest fires is too high. That's a huge loss if your house suddenly becomes worthless.
@gibsonj5035 27 днів тому
Government is the stupidest component of obfuscation.
@truthneverlies4922 Місяць тому
Your lying plain and simple the carbon tax increases the price of everything
@mstar7520 Місяць тому
but if the price of something increases by only a fraction of a penny then it doesn't really matter
@dootdoot1867 Місяць тому
@@mstar7520 That is only consumer carbon pricing. Not Business Carbon pricing.
@mstar7520 Місяць тому
@@dootdoot1867 no it's a general principal, it's not strictly about consumer price OR business pricing, but covers both
@nofbi8582 29 днів тому
@@mstar7520 The businesses sure thing so when the federal government increases the wages and businesses raise prices because they lose money from paying the upped wages. Which means the CEO of walmart can only go on 8 superyacht luxury vacations instead of 10 :(
@flopes11 29 днів тому
Or get this....They will increase prices? Shocking right? Replace the carbon tax with a stupidity tax and you'll save the world.@@nofbi8582
@jimvautour595 Місяць тому
This was a very bias viewpoint, without larger scale context of let's say a transport truck driving 14 hrs / day, 7 days a week. It ends up a massive amount of diesel fuel cost that will be transferred directly to consumers goods, especially food.
@dennisheyes4561 Місяць тому
I did not realize math was biased. If your argument is that carbon pricing significantly altered the prices (like more than Galen Weston's greed.) Why did the price of food also go up in countries without Carbon tax too?
@piratefishrick Місяць тому
@@dennisheyes4561 Galen Weston and others can't cause inflation even if they wanted to because they don't control the amount of currency that goes into circulation. The government printed too much money and the price of everything went up. This happened in other countries too, but it is not a "global problem" like some politicians claim. If Canada didn't print so much money over the last few years then prices here would not have gone up like they did, and our currency would have become stronger relative to that of other countries'.
@TATEVSWORLD 29 днів тому
@@piratefishrickexactly then add on to that carbon tax which drive inflation even more and it’s going to keep going up in the name of climate change scam 🤣
@flopes11 29 днів тому
Its biased if you pick the factors you want and exclude the ones you don't. Again, I say replace it with stupidity tax. with citizens like you...we'll be rich very soon.@@dennisheyes4561
@joeisawesome540 29 днів тому
@@piratefishrick can you find a country where inflation didn’t happen? Even Japan, famous for deflation is experiencing inflation. And the inflation hit almost at the same time in 2022. So ya, it is a global issue. Let’s not pretend otherwise. Also, government had to use stimulus measure during the pandemic, or half the families will be on the streets. This is why most government printed a lot of money during the pandemic. PP would have done the same thing. Trump, conservatives hero also slashed interest rate to 0, and printed trillions of dollars for relief measures. Finally, lack of supply can definitely cause inflation. It is not just money printing.
@willalot 27 днів тому
CBC you getting your resumes ready for when PP wins?
@heedrix 25 днів тому
can you do an additional segment, where you follow the 17.6 cents to the government, to someone's rebate cheque? is any of the 17.6 cents removed from the process to be used for something? or does the 17.6 cents go directly to a rebate?
@oilerssixpack2629 29 днів тому
This is all lies as the consumer pays everyone’s carbon tax from transporting goods, repair services,groceries, booze and anything else we pay for as a consumers.
@Donthaveacowbra 27 днів тому
And you then get that money back. This is just the sheer reality of it. If prices go up so thereby does your rebate
@oilerssixpack2629 27 днів тому
@@Donthaveacowbra you not taking into account clothing food rent mortgages but you live BC AND THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING
@rh7163 27 днів тому
@@Donthaveacowbra If you believe all of that, I have a bridge for sale and its going at fire sale prices but be quick, its scheduled for demolition. Meanwhile, any thoughts on the credit card cash back schemes the banks have come up with ? Higher prices at the retail stores ? Think hard, need a clue on what helps those retailers to come up with dealing with cash back schemes ? Maybe higher prices which provide some cash back of their own ? It takes more grease to make the wheels turn without any squeaks.
@zen1647 27 днів тому
All the people who are paying taxes are getting some back - and getting more back if they are energy efficient!
@jakeu844 27 днів тому
Remember Trudeau owns the CBC, so why would they tell the truth.
@ccheg3949 Місяць тому
It misses all the transportation costs on products that gets passed down to the consumers!! We definitely don't get back what we pay into it ALL over the place!!
@BCrossing 29 днів тому
Exaggerated, and you do get it back, twice over
@waynekibbler2710 28 днів тому
@@BCrossing Not even close. For example, food prices have tripled much of it can be attributed to the carbon tax. TrueDolt has his own "new math" we are all suffering and he has to go!
@BCrossing 28 днів тому
@@waynekibbler2710 He can go for all I care. But carbon taxes discourage excessive driving, reducing carbon, and give the government more wriggle room to increase spending. A double win, for a single loss/cost: Europe-priced fuel.
@Mr090909090909099 28 днів тому
@@BCrossingwho tf determines excessive driving, everyone drives the amount they need to drive to do the things they need to do, this type of nanny state garbage where you expect others to let you run their lives because you think the government can do it better it’s pathetic take some accountability and run your life the way you want to and stop crying to daddy government everytime your pasties twist.
@Mr090909090909099 28 днів тому
@@BCrossingwho tf wants the government to have more spending, all their spending comes from taxes and from finding ways to price gouge the average citizen while giving tax breaks to the politicians family and friends who are in a high social class than you anyways, you know every day I get by just fine without once thinking to myself “you know who needs more money, THE GOVERNMENT” I just don’t understand how someone could want to charge more on driving which most Canadians rely on heavily especially those in rural areas to get to work this affects the vast majority of a population which is already struggling monthly paycheque to paycheque, honestly I’m not trying to insult you however you need to get some perspective and check your privilege.
@NewfieXbox66-ju4qb 17 днів тому
I put $20.00 in my Fuel Tank yesterday and it was at 168.7 L and got less than a half Tank
@magyodorferarnell 15 днів тому
How come I have never received a tebate check. I pay income tax, OAS, CPP? Is there a income ceiling for rebate?
@hosnimubarak8869 14 днів тому
Which province are you in?
@marlohamon-lg2pt Місяць тому
Only the CBC could come up with this BS. Carbon tax to heat my house cost me $480 more a year not to mention gas purchases and all the tax collected on everything we buy
@BCrossing 29 днів тому
Good. Why do you assume you can continue to ruin the climate with no consequences?
@marlohamon-lg2pt 29 днів тому
@@BCrossing wake up lefty it’s a scam and has been since day one
@brianlagace57 29 днів тому
My bills prove cbc wrong
@chrisbbb69 29 днів тому
Lol not to mention this isnt the firstt carbon tax and it wont be the last one Pierre is literally sayingg everything isss far to expensivee and this wont help lol
@ogunclearnoldgaming1790 28 днів тому
@@BCrossingthis whole save the environment stuff is bs half of it is caused by China and India so Essentially this carbon tax does nothing for the environment nor are the any findings that it has done anything for the environment
@EdPenwarden 29 днів тому
The problem with the Bank of Canada’s inflation impact of the carbon tax is - the new CPI (consumer price index) excludes gasoline, fuel oil, intercity transportation and fruits and vegetables (which are usually trucked to us especially in the winter.
@RodrigodelaJara 26 днів тому
That's false. There's one of several other measures called the CPIX that excludes those things, but the one called CPI does not.
@anonymous134y 26 днів тому
i reported the video for misinformation
@-First-Last 25 днів тому
@@anonymous134y Good one ! 👍👍😂😂 How to do that ? I will do it too. Oh .... wait ... this is CBC- Canadian Brainwashing Corporation. They NEVER spread misinformation. And trudeau with his new wife will scold you for not care about Ukraine.
@brentmarr1331 18 днів тому
also its not fair to old people who live alone in a two bedroom house and only get back 140 dollars when the family next door who has two kids with a two bedroom house gets abour 300 dollars per 3 months. and uses the same amount of fuel to heat their home
@Freamon 24 дні тому
I'm just confused how this tax deters people from spending their money on carbon emitters like gas. We are being told that 8/10 people in Canada get back more money than what they are spending in carbon tax. Doesn't getting more money from the rebate just leave me with more money to spend on gas??
@hosnimubarak8869 23 дні тому
A carbon tax raises the cost of carbon-intensive products like gasoline and home heating fuel and natural gas. In doing so, it will encourage consumers to find alternatives. That may mean taking more public transit or driving a more fuel-efficient vehicle. But it could also mean using smart home technology to heat your home or business more effectively or looking at a more efficient furnace. But the whole point is not to be prescriptive. It's not to determine by government which is the right way for each of us to reduce our emissions. Instead, the price lets us find our own ways that make the most sense for us. Those who use less fuel pay less tax, but still get the same rebate as someone who burns a lot of fuel - leaving them financially ahead by comparison. British Columbia, Quebec and the Northwest Territories follow their own carbon-pricing mechanisms that meet federal standards. Economists offer an analogy to explain that point. Consider a bar that raises the price of a specific beer by $5. When you walk in, the bar tender hands you $5 bill. You can buy the more expensive beer and come out no worse. Or you can pocket the five bucks and buy something else.
@carsonmetcalfe7635 Місяць тому
Why 100L of diesel? Why not 1000. Thats the average tank on a semi truck which brings almost all consumer products to market. Not to mention everything that travels by rail.
@de_stroyed 29 днів тому
There are pickup trucks that are also diesel. And it's not hard to do the math to figure it out which is $210.
@robert8668 29 днів тому
F250 diesel and mini excavator after rebate I should only be in the hole$1284 this year. I glad to share my money with those poor people with no car and heat with electricity.
@youngcardinal94 29 днів тому
So multiply it by 10?... Also, rail is ridiculously more efficient than almost any other form of transportation, and we need to move stuff somehow. CN and CPR are free to convert their locomotives to straight electric instead of hybrids any time they want to spend the money.... Lord knows they have it.
@user-hl8li7ib7g 28 днів тому
They can't convert all their engines to electric, an electric engine couldn't make it over the mountain passes in the winter when batteries drain much more rapidly, they'd have to bring in the diesels to rescue the electric engines making it almost pointless to even try. Many have ditched their electric vehicles for gas ones here because it's too impractical and costs more. People with electric vehicles where I live have to charge them multiple times a day to stay mobile when it's 20 or 30 below which is much more expensive than operating a conventional vehicle not to mention who has the time to sit at a charger for an hour 3 times or more per day when we must work 2 jobs just to make ends meet?@@youngcardinal94
@danheuser5148 27 днів тому
You also need to consider how expensive things will get if, e.g, our summers keep getting hotter and drier (if we don't do anything about climate change). Are you willing to gamble that farmers will be able to figure out how to keep farming under increasingly extreme conditions? It doesn't matter if we remove all taxes from fuel if there's less food to transport.
@wayneandvickijackson4853 Місяць тому
Forget all the itemizing, as this is pretty easy to figure out. How much did the Government collect in Carbon Taxes and how much did they pay back? Let’s not forget the millions it costs to administer all this. This was asked to Freeland in Committee and she refused to answer! Case closed!
@dootdoot1867 Місяць тому
They are only talking about the consumer pricing. Not the Business pricing. Which you pay for while they admit that you will be less productive so make lower wages.
@shanederinger8756 Місяць тому
works pretty well when you write the report to fit the narrative eh?
@bhut1571 Місяць тому
No, his logic is correct, unless you are wealthy and the next generation benefits with less CO2 in the air.
@movingtocalgary01 Місяць тому
@cbc you missed calculation of lost jobs due to Carbon tax to foreign dictators, China 🇨🇳, India 🇮🇳, Mexico 🇲🇽 & other countries.
@skura2093 Місяць тому
@@dootdoot1867just out of curiosity, do you think businesses will voluntarily lose money or do you think they will adjust their prices to offset what they pay in extra taxes? Like, what would a rational businessperson do given that choice?
@ryanvargus9456 26 днів тому
Naphta is a type of fuel used in camping appliances, stove, lantern etc. Lots of Canadians use it when they go camping. Maybe educate yourself before making your video?
@PelonMusk 21 день тому
I paid $152 for a city business license. Now I write my fuel and heating costs off as a business expense. I also collect the carbon tax rebate. I own 5 cars and I don't actually run a business.
@althunder4269 Місяць тому
Mexico: no carbon tax United States: no carbon tax Canada: carbon tax So giving the government money will make the weather better? I'm happy the government will be voted out soon.
@dennisheyes4561 Місяць тому
Mexico has a carbon tax.
@althunder4269 Місяць тому
@@dennisheyes4561 Thanks for the correction.
@nofbi8582 29 днів тому
@@althunder4269 I mean to be fair, Mexico is also corrupt. I don't wanna be like Mexico.
@flopes11 29 днів тому
its true....he didn't mention theirs is 3usd a tone and ours is set to be 80!@@althunder4269
@aspman97 29 днів тому
@@dennisheyes4561 Canada's carbon tax is 23 times higher than Mexico, that's enough to make it statistically insignificant by comparison.
@MRJDOROSH Місяць тому
You glossed over the next page of the report where it talks about total economic impact. You know those pesky indirect costs. I noticed that page says 60-80% of Canadians are worse off.
@cowoffun3545 Місяць тому
The video talks about indirect costs between 7:50 and 10:20. Spending 20% of the video is not "glossing over".
@gary2984234 26 днів тому
It's glossing over when the bottom line is that when all is said and done, MOST households will be worse off, not better.
@sparkestudio 28 днів тому
You make this seem like it won't increase the cost of food. It is going to, cost of shipping is generally about 12% percent of everything we pay. You guys make it seem like oh this is nothing, it is something. It is something to everyone that buys stuff that is shipped.
@GuitarLessonsBobbyCrispy 7 днів тому
I have an idea. How about receiving a rebate if you keep your driving under a certain amount of km's per year ( like 10,000 or 15,000 depending on a number of personal factors, like how far you have to drive to work ). You have your odometer in your car checked each year where your renew your driver's license. That would be much better than having to pay a tax.
@Rhino1188 Місяць тому
Imagine the self-adulation required to think that our carbon tax plan is going to have ANY impact on world carbon levels. Insane. Get rid of it.
@DigSamurai Місяць тому
Really so we should do nothing? that's your plan??
@Kala12326 Місяць тому
Especially when you consider how much coal we sell to China. Imagine how much diesel fuel gets used in that shipping process. Maybe if we started subsidizing Chinese companies that use Tesla’s and sailboats.
@alcovitch Місяць тому
@@DigSamurai We could help the poorest countries go clean, like India. It would have WAY More impact then whatever we do here. Taxing Canadians isn't going to change anything when we account for less than 2% of the world emissions
@DigSamurai Місяць тому
@@alcovitch if only it was that simple. You're right we don't contribute that much but we don't control those countries policies and we certainly can't tell India how to do things. Just because we don't contribute that much doesn't mean we shouldn't do our part.
@Sylvie_M Місяць тому
@@alcovitch Canadians produce more emissions per person than many other countries in the world. To suggest that we do nothing is naive. We are also warming at a faster rate than any other country. There are excellent scientific articles describing the phenomenon. Alternatively, you could talk to the Inuit and they can tell what is happening in the North while the rest of us burn up.
@trapz4550 Місяць тому
$1600to fill my oil tank, to fill same amount last year was $900. House Insurance from $1200 to $3700., truck fuel was $3000; now $4000, small basket blueberries was $5.00, now $10.00 for less amount. CBC, do you catch my drift?
@immaleaf4964 Місяць тому
don't worry, 8 out of 10 of you get it baaaaaaack
@raymondsiu Місяць тому
That is why we need to de-fund the CBC to let them know the reality.
@mikeb5664 Місяць тому
There is no carbon tax on your insurance.
@rayleblanc7209 Місяць тому
@@immaleaf4964 Wrong. 2 out of 10 get a small rebate. But it doesn't come close to the 25% increase on everything we buy.
@GFY_FOAD Місяць тому
@@mikeb5664 yet
@johnpatrick1588 24 дні тому
Is there a rebate for the tax paid on the carbon tax?
@alexg9727 Місяць тому
The data doesn't factor in cost increases on goods and services
@McLovin1759 Місяць тому
The data also doesn’t factor in the long term cost of climate change either. One interesting thing is that no one in the CPC is seemingly upset at Danielle Smith for raising the Provincial Gas Tax by 40% on April 1st. There is no Rebate there. And your “cost increases on goods and services” would also apply to that. Why no “Spike Danielle’s Hike?”
@Al-lv7vg Місяць тому
She's not raising the tax, she's putting the remainder of the tax that was dropped when oil prices were higher. Exactly what she said she would do if oil prices dropped below the specified amount. It's not a new tax.@McLovin1759
@garyvenuti4143 Місяць тому
The cost of climate change, assuming that exists, will always be there. That's because at 1.6% of global emissions, Canadians can reduce our emissions by 50% and IT WILL DO NOTHING. And even if it did, the benefits DO NOT STAY OVER CANADA. Something about our atmosphere being Global. @@McLovin1759
@juststuff01 Місяць тому
Humans can't control the climate, especially not Canada@@McLovin1759
@kenklak Місяць тому
Yes it does. This starts at 8:46 and the PBO takes all costs into account for all quintiles.
@lada152 Місяць тому
Wonder how this guy getting paid to spin this pile bull crap into gold?
@DirtyDog995 Місяць тому
6 figures I imagine
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
Have you watched his segments? The dude is pretty good and factual for most of the things. Remember, just because you disagree does not mean someone is lying. Maybe t is your bias talking
@lada152 Місяць тому
@@joeisawesome540 bias yes. Only show what makes it decent. Didnt take into account cost to goods or how gst is tagged on and used a chart 2030-31 plus not say how this reduces carbon other than make ppl poor to stop using ya that good governace.
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
@@lada152 they did dude. Pbo report they are using take in account of the added cost and gst. It says in the report if you actually read it. You are the one who never read anything, and then feel everyone else is lying because you are biased as fk.
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
@@lada152 you said you watched the video, and you still don’t understand how carbon tax works? Are you kidding me? It very simple, the less carbon you produce the more money you make. So it incentivizes people to shift their carbon emissions such as replacing their aging furnace with a more efficient one, or driving a more efficient car and walk more. When you put a price on pollution, people will shift their behaviour. When pollution is free, there is no incentive to curb pollution since it is free. For example, a person switching from a old gas guzzler car for a hybrid car can see a 40% drop in their carbon tax payment, but they still get the same rebate, which means the more they are careful with their emission, the more they save. So when it is time to replace your car, get a more fuel efficient one like I did.
@valwilliams9953 24 дні тому
I’m curious as to why BC isn’t shown in any of the graphs!?
@bcr3649 28 днів тому
Ok... so what happened to the Carbon Tax Rebate for BC (the country's most expensive fuel due to taxes already) and Quebec?:
@umani9983 29 днів тому
Canada is a large country and so much of our food are delivered by trucks, trucks use fuel which are taxed which in turn make the food delivered more expensive. Restaurants use natural gas to cook making their end product even more expensive. In fact every product we buy be it cloth, appliances require transportation, and that transportation is being taxed. The lie is saying you are only paying for the carbon tax at the pump and home heating. No it is added to the price of literally everything we buy. And poor people don't eat that much less food or wear much fewer clothes than rich people.
@KManAbout 26 днів тому
watch the video
@annsmyth764 25 днів тому
no more eating out
@mylesflewelling6935 Місяць тому
That’s not what the farmers are saying !
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
farmers can't do math.. thats why they are farmers.. talk to their accountant.
@youpedia4614 Місяць тому
@@joeisawesome540 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@VideoGameMarimbist Місяць тому
@@joeisawesome540 Agreed. A friend of mine does accounting for farmers and she says that they literally just give her a box of receipts and she is just expected to calculate their entire fiscal year. Lots of farmers don't know any of their financials.
@CanadianEhHole Місяць тому
@@VideoGameMarimbist That's for tax purposes. That isn't because they have no concept of how much money they're making and spending.
@VideoGameMarimbist Місяць тому
@CanadianEhHole Yes but if they aren't tracking their finances then they have no clue if they are seeing increases over time due to a carbon tax.
@TheSonnobia 25 днів тому
I am always impressed with how well this program explains things I think that we need to really think about the future that we leave for our children and grandchildren that we claim to love and care about so much because if paying $.50 extra at the pump means that they can have a world worth living indon’t deserve
@twingrip 20 днів тому
Name one thing that the tax helps for the environment? I'll wait
@KarlBuckley-bw3vc 28 днів тому
Why was BC missing from the stats in this video?
@bt7348 Місяць тому
Home heating and transportation is not a choice in Canada. It is a must. There shouldn't be any tax on these expenses.
@nuxkamina Місяць тому
Texas has been taxing gas since 1931. The production of these resources has a cost the public helps pay. Water, food...if i didn't have to pay taxes on 'needs' I wouldn't be paying taxes.
@PunkrockNoir-ss2pq Місяць тому
@@nuxkamina So I'm getting taxed because I have to drive to work? How is that my fault?
@cdbuiles Місяць тому
@@PunkrockNoir-ss2pqis a choice to drive. you can ride a horse to work and they won’t tax you at the pump.
@rigg4146 Місяць тому
@@cdbuiles yeah and you can live in a cardboard box to avoid a mortgage, it's your choice to live in a house. see how silly you sound?
@nuxkamina Місяць тому
How would you like to pay for the traffic lights, roads, licensing, traffic policing, hospitalizations? If I walk to work, and you are part of these costs why shouldn't you pay for it? It's not your fault, it's the cost of what you're doing. Until recently there has been an unpaid environmental cost. How do the firefighters and flood emergency workers getting paid? Taxes aren't punishment. @@PunkrockNoir-ss2pq
@sparklessconnectionselectrical Місяць тому
All it does is justify payroll for useless bureaucrats and it doesn't reduce the amount of emissions whatsoever
@geminipwnage2570 27 днів тому
It’s funny to see a media outlet in the PMs pocket try and minimize the real issue at hand! People cannot afford groceries already, but let’s increase the daily cost of fuel so they can go from a loaf bread to just drinking water!
@jfdd43 24 дні тому
Notice how at no point did they mention the comparative amount of co2 released before and after a the tax
@ricin82 Місяць тому
such a shame what the CBC has become
@sebastiang6986 Місяць тому
wdym that was good journalism?
@00nicklock Місяць тому
Indeed! Its very sad how they sold and now regurgitate Trudeau
@hoangminhnguyen4933 Місяць тому
cuz it doesn’t align with your opinion?
@icantwiththis Місяць тому
Can't wait till Pierre stops them from getting our money anymore.
@wallace44able Місяць тому
Cause you don't like what the data says? LOL. Shame on them giving an unbiased report.
@Azel247 Місяць тому
A couple working full time making $20/hr each in BC is deemed too wealthy to get any rebates.
@lucgruffaz7750 Місяць тому
I have yet to receive any check from our BC taxman , even so our dual income for me and my spouse was under $30,000 ?
@CanadianEhHole Місяць тому
You're not their target demographic. They know they've lost the middle class next election and are desperate to get low and no income voters which is why they're dishing out all these spending programs, which are just campaign ploys.
@DirtyDog995 Місяць тому
When I lived in BC I made ~$100k... no rebates, no pharma assistance then one year I got 3 GST rebate cheques for $31/ea ... they must have F'd up.
@Sylvie_M Місяць тому
@azel247 BC is not part of this program!
@Azel247 Місяць тому
@@Sylvie_M BC has its own program
@royalcityrob 16 днів тому
I'm still not understanding how a tax *lowers* emissions on a global scale.
@CM6169 27 днів тому
B.C. is expected to collect approximately $2.24 billion in carbon tax revenue. On the other hand, the rebates paid out to eligible individuals and families, were forecast to be $687 million.
@michaelbodden-qp1cg 27 днів тому
So 55% of those paying get $687 million back. That means the other 45% get to pay most of the $1.553 billion the government keeps. No wonder this retired senior feels like he is getting shafted.
@jamesphillips2285 27 днів тому
Not sure about BC but part of the federal program pays for the Canada Greener Homes Initiative. BC probably has their own, similar, program.
@JordenTyler32 Місяць тому
Ask the parliamentary budget officer. This is blatant "misinformation" we used to call lies.
@nuxkamina Місяць тому
what would you do if it wasn't?
@markmining6797 Місяць тому
Agree
@GregTGolden Місяць тому
@@nuxkaminaits a lie. 99% of people are paying more than they get back. The only people getting more back than they pay are going to be people without cars that live in a very small apartment and dont eat any food. Other than that...youre paying more than youre getting back. Why go through all the work of collecting the tax, administration and issuing refunds.....if the net result is the government is paying out more than they collect. If it were the case that they pay more than they collect....is it not going to be more harmful to the environment? As you are essentially subsidizing carbon pollution?
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
@@GregTGolden 99%? LOL where did you get the data
@ddhqj2023 Місяць тому
God forbid you should get facts eh? And explanations? Nah, who needs that, Mr. PP's doing a good job of thinking for you.
@ytan3199 Місяць тому
Before asking people to reduce driving or heating, show us how much less driving/heating you have done….
@joeisawesome540 29 днів тому
Well, let me tell you how much I have done. The average Canadian family of 4 waste about 1000-1500 dollars of food they bought from the store each year. That figure is way higher than what the average family pay in carbon tax after rebate. Our family has made a plan to eat what we bought, and only get news things when we finish the old items. Do we still waste food? Sure, but now waste less than 200 bucks a year. Not only did we reduce our waste but also carbon tax. We also got a smart thermostat and we lower our temperature when people are working and at night when we are sleeping. We pay almost half of what my parents use at their house with a conventional thermostat. As for driving, I always wanted a 5l mustang as a kid, but when I finally got my career going, I grew up and made the good financial decision of buying a used hybrid. I get 800km per 55l of gas. This reduced my carbon emissions and taxes from driving by 1/3 compared to my parents who are driving conventional cars. So ya, our family, without any sacrifices have reduce our emissions and carbon tax by almost 2/5 when compared to someone who did nothing.
@allenc5108 29 днів тому
Joe is awesome, lol.
@ytan3199 29 днів тому
@@joeisawesome540 Joe is so awesome and great to hear what real people are doing. You guys are great! Sharing from my end, For us, We already have smart thermostats from the very beginning, also already have home away routine, already lowered tempt at night to 19C. I don’t think we can lower heating further just for carbon without we at home suffering. No. I don’t have hybrid car, to get a new car I have to have money first. But with paying more each month, I don’t know where to get money to upgrade the car. And when we talking within our group, people are totally in for upgrades and home renovations. But again, we need to have the spare money first. And my follow-up question is that with living costs higher and higher, how do we improve to cut carbon without money?
@mattmace2606 29 днів тому
Most people aren't big nerds and likely won't do this... when is your new, and even higher pedestal coming in?
@rodgood 29 днів тому
We need to know now you plan to reach Zero carbon emission ? other then exhaling .
@djmoot4428 18 днів тому
This is what I figured out about this big step forward about carbon, First China's hand in elections ,China has the biggest cobalt manufactory, has mass produced electric vehicles, and now Canada wants to switch to EVs by 2030 , so makes you wonder ,is it the pollution the government is worried about or the sales on all the EVs which all the corrupted investors have.IT IS A STRATAGY TOWARDS MARKETING NOT POLLUTION
@JeanPaulGrant 19 днів тому
Lots of explanations but where was the explanation for the food bank increase and line ups ???
@paga12621 Місяць тому
My BC, Natural gas bill shows $27.88 gas used, and Carbon tax $40.48, annually the tax would be $485.76 for this 1 item. To date I have received $311.33 tax rebate in total, this includes GST etc taxes, this means I am out of pocket with the Carbon tax if one includes all the gasoline, grocery etc carbon taxes. One also has to realize this is coming from the CBC , lieberal government paid friend.
@jimineycrickit4239 Місяць тому
I live in BC and have got nothing. We pay carbon tax on everything. My gas bill is usually over $120 with only a small amount of that is actually gas, $20-$40.
@TheMcgojoh Місяць тому
You use the exact same amount of natural gas(12.5 GJ each month) throughout the year?
@Kala12326 Місяць тому
Yeah! You must be wrong. Don’t look at your own bills, that math is too complicated, listen to the experts. I think the cbc knows a little bit more about your expenditures than you do.
@pauldorn4422 Місяць тому
I also live in BC, pay more in carbon tax then the price of the NG, never ever got any rebate, even when I bought an electric car I had to put wife on title to get BC rebate, and no I am not rich just middle class
@MystiqWisdom Місяць тому
@@Kala12326 Thank you. "Are you going to believe the CBC or your lying eyes!?"
@Speedmo Місяць тому
I'm so confused. Why would we celebrate getting back the carbon tax in a rebate as compared to asking why are we paying it in the first place, just to get it back? Common sense is so lacking in Canada.
@ryans413 29 днів тому
Wouldn’t need a rebate if there wasn’t a tax. People ain’t even getting the full amount this is what Pierre’s been hammering on in the House of Commons. This tax has done absolutely nothing what has the government done with everyone’s money nothing. 8 years of this and I don’t see anything in the works to reduce carbon have you seen anything I haven’t. It’s a pointless tax.
@j-fp9075 29 днів тому
Because you are not getting it back.
@louistournas120 29 днів тому
@@ryans413 Hydro-Quebec has been building a few power plants. I think 4, along the Romaine River. I don’t know about the other provinces but hydro power seems like a very long term solution and Canada has plenty of rivers.
@deaddynamite8568 29 днів тому
If you emit less carbon, from a flat rebate, you make money. If you emit more carbon, from that same rebate, you lose money. The incentive is to emit less carbon.
@guythetechguy 29 днів тому
@@deaddynamite8568That sounds good on paper but I don't think that people consume less gas when prices go up. A lot of the demand is not elastic, people can't afford an EV, they can't afford not to go to work. The cost of managing this program and the rebates further complicates things. I can get behind moving away from fossil fuels (and I have, I drive an EV and I use a heat pump for my house) but this method seems very iffy.
@johnshellenberg1383 27 днів тому
Came to read comments from "economists" with no economics education, training, or research background. Was not disappointed.
@perrybjornson9829 28 днів тому
I used 28.00$ worth natural gas for Jan. Carbon tax was 34.50 on the bill .and the people getting the tax refund don't even pay a bill.
@Ukarumpa2005 Місяць тому
another total smear campaign against Pierre. Anyone with a brain knows that when you raise taxes on fuels, that transportation of foods and goods and flights go up to and the operators will pass that on to you, the customer.
@DirtyDog995 Місяць тому
Fun fact U-Haul charges an environmental fee on rentals which the nice gentleman told me will be increasing soon.
@AsThe3rdEye Місяць тому
A smear on Pierre? When he was the secretary to the PM who started "Cap and Trade" in 2008?
@Ratboy2004 Місяць тому
As expected. Facts presented, lies. What you want to hear, all ok. It's not a smear campaign, it's examining the claims he's making which are inaccurate at best. Farmers are exempt from carbon tax. Most of our food comes from other countries, read the label. The wealthy are paying the most carbon tax like landlords, property owners of office towers and mansions...and who donates the most to the conservative party? Politics my friend. Politicians lie for a living. Trudeau is a putz, do not get me wrong. CT program is pathetic. People who don't spend money on carbon tax SHOILD NOT GET A CHEQUE but they do. Thats fuked. But. Trust me, I'm a cost accountant and I did the math from the beginning. We don't lose, only the wealthy lose. It's a cost on a cost that isn't much. I've had a lot of things delivered to my home, free delivery. Where's the carbon tax? Not in the product, always on sale and competitive. Politicians LIE. Trudeau, PP, the lot of them. 😅
@Ratboy2004 Місяць тому
@@DirtyDog995and that isn't new. We've been paying those BS fees for years.
@DirtyDog995 Місяць тому
@@Ratboy2004 Never said it was... pointing out the wide effect of the carbon tax increase.
@ValdemiroAmorim Місяць тому
Tax on fuel is a tax on everything, I work for a trucking company and we pass the cost to of extra fuel expenses to our customers, in turn they pass it to the consumer.. not rocket science here!!!
@Kala12326 Місяць тому
Especially when you consider federal, provincial and municipal employees are all asking for raises as the price of everything increases
@AsThe3rdEye Місяць тому
iMHZEV? You save $10,000-200,000 and dodge the carbon tax entirely? You or a competitor get to lower your prices and hedge out the competition?
@gregorymalchuk272 29 днів тому
@@Kala12326That leads to something called a wage-price spiral.
@zen1647 27 днів тому
Sounds like extra incentive to be as energy efficient as possible .
@jamesphillips2285 27 днів тому
For short-haul you can electrify. For long-haul electrified rail should take over (if the rail companies can get their heads out of their asses). The problem with rail is that North American rail companies are currently obsessed with "precision scheduled railroading". This is a system of cost-cutting involving running overly long trains to save on infrastructure and staffing costs. The problems are: 1. Long trains no longer fit in sidings, so trains can't pass one another 2. Long trains get delayed, so staff are forced to work unpredictable hours 3. The lack of scheduling means that the railroads can only move low-value bulk freight. Right now all the valuable cargo is either moving by plane or truck because the rail companies need a lot of lead time.
@Atul058 26 днів тому
What happened to B.C i dont see it on your list are we only supposed 4:29 to pay but not get anything in return
@timyanke9559 24 дні тому
about 12 years ago there was a home efficiency grant, it helped people upgrade their insulation, windows and furnaces. i seen many inefficient homes being upgraded and using less fuel to heat. I work in residential construction and had plenty paying jobs because of it. now i charge my customers more because fuel and shipping costs and people don't have extra money to spend on energy upgrades.
@fredgould3825 Місяць тому
Come on , the price on fuel has a direct correlation to the price on most things we buy and consume.
@joeisawesome540 Місяць тому
Yes, but I think you are overestimating how much shipping cost is fuel. A loaded semi hauls around 40k of goods. A fully loaded semi uses 40 litre of diesel per 100m. Carbon tax is at 14 cents a litre which means if you are delivering 40k lb of cabbages it will use 800l of gas and pay 120 in carbon tax. Divide that among the cabbages, and you will get an increase of 0.3cents per lb of cabbage. If you go, what if they only carry 20k lb, the semi will also use less diesel, and 2000km will cost around 0.4 cents per lb of cabbage. A little bit more but not significantly more. This is why people are confused about how little carbon tax has on the transportation of food.
@flopes11 29 днів тому
this is a complete fabrication@@joeisawesome540
@colingryms3373 29 днів тому
@@joeisawesome540 It looks like you're a numbers guy, I've been trying to find how many times the carbon tax impacts a loaf of bread from fertilizer production to table... wearable parts, equipment end of life replacement (and all the embed cost associated with these items), transportation (and wearable parts), drying seeds, heating buildings, processing (and wearable parts and equipment replacement),.... I'm pretty sure it will only add 0.15% to the cost of a loaf of bread.
@joeisawesome540 29 днів тому
@@colingryms3373 well, most of the Carbon is exempt at the farming level as well. I would love to see your numbers
@colingryms3373 29 днів тому
@@joeisawesome540 Only diesel fuel. Natural gas and propane are most often used to heat buildings and drying... those gases are not exempt yet. The bill to exempt propane and natural gas has been on the table for some time.
@dirtyjobs3995 Місяць тому
The question should be, are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
@smokesletsgo2374 Місяць тому
8 years ago I was living in my own one bedroom apartment while making $14 an hour. Today I make more than double that and live with my mother because only room rentals are in my budget and they're only available to Indians
@nofbi8582 29 днів тому
@@smokesletsgo2374 Amen brother. I don't know how shills are out here defending the people in power.
@robson_ivan 15 днів тому
Don't forget that the rebates paid are recoverable in tax of some other form as it is a debt. So instead of getting into a vicious cycle, why not use the rebates to pay the carbon tax instead and keep the pump prices and inflation low. This also avoids debts to a major extent. Well, we know the govt wont do it as it wants to win peoples' favor for votes. This is the true situation we are in. All that math and derived information to downplay the extra inflation and additional costs (other taxes) caused by the carbon tax makes no sense.
@dukem258 26 днів тому
A single train engine fuel tank is 4500gal. How much do you think its going to cost to fill it up?
@bradmcleish 26 днів тому
How much would it cost to fill up the trucks needed to carry the same freight?
@ErVan_AG Місяць тому
What about the business owners and farmers? As a grain farmer I pay a 35% fuel surcharge on grain hauled to elevator terminal? CN removed the rail road near my farm in the 90s so I have no other way to transport grain. Everything transported in Canada has this extra cost!! Tax is a TAX no matter how you sum it up.!!!!
@CraZY.pRIME. Місяць тому
You didn't watch the whole video or at all.
@jupitereye4322 Місяць тому
@@CraZY.pRIME. And you are not listening to the farmer. Instead you are listening to news.
@planefan082 Місяць тому
Indirect costs are mentioned and approximated towards the end.
@CraZY.pRIME. Місяць тому
@@jupitereye4322You also didn't watch it.
@TheLoachman Місяць тому
@@jupitereye4322 "News"??? Propaganda.
@JimMelanson Місяць тому
We are a tiny country of 40 million. We could all live in mud huts tomorrow and it would have zero impact on the global climate (assuming you buy that argument that humans can even control it). We are being taxed into poverty for absolutely nothing. Ask yourselves why?
@RandomPickles Місяць тому
Oof. Being so wrong must be awesome.
@CorpoRat72 Місяць тому
Ask yourselves why a leader would make it harder to build generational wealth as they claim catastrophic events are going to happen in the future.
@flopes11 29 днів тому
let us know@@RandomPickles
@RandomPickles 29 днів тому
@@flopes11 Not my job or interest.
@flopes11 29 днів тому
You seem to be an expert in being wrong. I thought maybe it was a profession my bad.@@RandomPickles
@JoshDurston 26 днів тому
There is significant embodied cost in everything we buy that is marked up by 30-50% a couple times thru the supply chain before we buy the item. It’s not just my car fuel and home heating.
@wetchicken2007 24 дні тому
How do you earn a rebate?
@MrPwilly78 Місяць тому
Running the numbers you show at 5:28 through a very simple spreadsheet, I can see that those who get a rebate receive a total of $29102. Those who pay more pay a total of $1876. So a difference of almost $28000 needs to be made up (this number would have to be scaled up to represent the actual population). Does this come right out of Trudeau's pocket? I doubt it. Most likely the difference is made up from commercial and industrial taxpayers who then roll the extra costs into everyday goods and services. But since those numbers are never published, one can only guess how much that actually is. The only clear thing, is that these numbers posted make zero sense and are designed to make people believe that they are getting more back than they pay. The real math is insanely simple. Show us how much the government raked in from carbon tax vs how much they paid out in rebates. But I'm guessing we will never see that because that would be actual reporting and not propoganda.
@williamjesse7622 Місяць тому
I believe I watched a committee report which stated $26 billion was taken in and $18 billion paid out. Where is the other &8 billion?
@planefan082 Місяць тому
It's not hard lol. Check your bank statements, do the math.
@MrPwilly78 Місяць тому
@@williamjesse7622 Exactly! The Canada Carbon "Rebate" takes money out of taxpayers pockets. I guess the rebate part goes to JT and his friends!
@MrPwilly78 Місяць тому
@@planefan082 Are you saying that you get more back because of what the Libs put in your bank account? Did you even read my post? The math is not hard. You are definitely paying more than that.
@Frameboy71 Місяць тому
@@williamjesse7622 Duh... it's a TAX.
@JTDPM Місяць тому
Excessive government spending is the biggest driver of inflation. Carbon tax adds to it. And then we pay tax on the carbon tax. With money that's been taxed.
@plonk7 Місяць тому
Where do you get your economic data from? According to the BOC it is caused by: a spike in commodity prices, a surge in the global demand for goods, impaired supply chains.
@epictetus3406 29 днів тому
@@plonk7from the history books. They printer about 500 billion dollars, guess what happens when you print money - you get inflation, happens everytime, to every government that tries it.
@genx65535 29 днів тому
Plonk why do you trust the BOC? Are you old enough to know what CYA means?
@maxothegreatwheela 27 днів тому
BOC weighed in on DIRECT costs. We know that's small but it's the indirect that is absolutely massive and exponential.
@dannynip 27 днів тому
Would be nice to know how these "quintiles" are actually broken down. Making $100k/yr isn't that much anymore in cities like Vancouver/Toronto.
@Timberland1963 Місяць тому
He conveniently forgot about the GST charged on the carbon tax. As a single person I get $900 a year carbon tax rebate. I don’t get a GST rebate. If I fill the 70 L tank on my car it costs me 12.32 in carbon tax and $0.32 in GST that totals l$12.94. If I fill once a week then that’s $672 a year and hurrah I’m up $228 a year until I pay the the carbon tax and GST on the carbon tax for the fuel it takes to heat my home. I’m not going to calculate that since it is more than $228 a year and I will be tempted to get a gun and a rope and head for Ottawa to find Trudeau and a tree. Anyone can do this calculation it’s a lot harder to figure out what it’s adding to goods. There’s little doubt in my mind that we are going to see an increase in the price of food in a week or less after this carbon tax increase whether it is real or just the grocery stores taking advantage of the increase to jack up prices even more.
@badhombre4942 Місяць тому
Meanwhile "Chinese" dictator Turdeau needs 2 private jets for everyone of his multiple vacations each year.
@cyborgrat 28 днів тому
That and all those nice suv's that sit around running waiting for him aren't electric.
@joshuaclarke6791 28 днів тому
Don't forget his $18000 raise in pay this year.
@scottcraig2569 27 днів тому
What about the clean fuel standard? And the GST on top of both?
@siegfridmast 18 днів тому
That only shows direct cost. Indirect cost passed on by the supplier, the delivery of the fuel all adds on the final cost. Not to mention added gst or hit to the base price.
@hosnimubarak8869 18 днів тому
The Bank of Canada said this month the carbon price contributes about 0.15 percentage points to inflation overall. That amount was the same whether inflation was at its peak of 8.1 per cent in June 2022 or 3.3 per cent in July.
@siegfridmast 16 днів тому
@@hosnimubarak8869 where is that article?
@hosnimubarak8869 16 днів тому
@@siegfridmast Search for "National Post, What we know about how much the carbon tax is to blame for spiking food costs in Canada".
@peterdebassecourt2515 Місяць тому
Time to cut the little luxuries, Disney Plus, Netflix, CBC.
@stephensmith1118 29 днів тому
and the other little luxuries.... like transport, food and heating.....
@joshg7949 29 днів тому
CBC is sadly funded by us... used as bribery from Trudeau.
@brianmcintyre8563 28 днів тому
Three meals a day,Kids hockey
@Maya-ig9kx 28 днів тому
I agree with getting rid of the CBC
@roostir1 28 днів тому
Yep, progressive policies make life a bit worse, a little at a time.
@TEK_Nemesis Місяць тому
After listening to this, my eyes are wide open. I didn't realize how much we'd be getting back until CBC cleared it up. So, those who don't use vehicles or fuel will definitely do better than the fringe population who own vehicles. Imagine how much of a rebate you'd get if you stop eating groceries altogether and maybe just live in a tent somewhere.
@Mathew-xr7kt Місяць тому
The fringe population that own vehicles? I’d say the majority of the population own vehicles
@Kiowan918 Місяць тому
@@Mathew-xr7ktdid the skip the English class that taught you what sarcasm was when you were in school?
@kelvinmudle9977 Місяць тому
we won't be getting this much back , we have been tax for the last 8 years in bc and I have yet to see a rebate
@Meyers1793 29 днів тому
As he showed, most people (~80%) will get back more in rebate than they paid.
@Mathew-xr7kt 29 днів тому
@@Meyers1793 you’re being misled by the cbc. If you spend the time to watch pbo’s tesltiminy in the house, he says word for word “counting in the indirect costs from business to business to consumer, most Canadians will see a negative affect”. There’s even a chart he presented that shows the majority of people in every province that has the federally mandated co2 tax will receive less than they pay. Don’t believe one side or the other, believe in the facts the pbo set forth.
@andrewnicholl5703 14 днів тому
How can you state some people don’t pay carbon tax?!?! If you buy anything, there is a carbon tax element priced into each product to cover production, distribution and retail cost increases…. It is not just personal gasoline, heating, etc. please also explain why this tax is above the line and we pay HST on it! Please stop acting like an SME when lying to people about getting more back in a rebate. Just figure out how much was collected, what you are rebating…and lower the tax!
@brentmarr1331 18 днів тому
bullshit it raises the cost on everythings 10 to 20 x as much that you would pay on items because you are taxed time after time over and over again on everything
@hosnimubarak8869 17 днів тому
The Bank of Canada said this month the carbon price contributes about 0.15 percentage points to inflation overall. That amount was the same whether inflation was at its peak of 8.1 per cent in June 2022 or 3.3 per cent in July.
@ccheg3949 Місяць тому
NO, we don't get more back than we pay into it everywhere we go, and also, taxpayers are paying for government jobs to collect these useless taxes!!! Nobody is talking about that, are they??!!
@joseph-mariopelerin7028 Місяць тому
There's peoples that thinks Putin is the liberator of Ukraine and will save Africa.... if that gives you an idea of what we are dealing with...
@bvyup2112 29 днів тому
that was my point about this. Even if everything was neutral, we still have to pay people to process this. They will be on govt salaries, collect pensions and will be growing in number every year.
@ccheg3949 29 днів тому
@@joseph-mariopelerin7028 we are dealing with complete MOR ONs in Canada!
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