Yes maybe a bit of both ...but styles make fights. Geo Foreman made a mess of both frazier (twice) and norton but ali, who struggled v these two, made a mess of foreman

Clay could be too cocky at times. He got decked by Jones immediately and he got decked by Henry Cooper later in 1963. But he’s not too cocky when fought Liston, he respected Liston and rested his crushing power. I think Liston lay down in that second fight. But the first one was legitimate. Totally.

@@syourke3 ...UKposts watcher.

sony threw the fights. he didn't wannt to be kiled by the boxinng mafia. they got him in the end.

​@@frereanaktom99 the fight was investigated and there isn't any evidence that he took a dive, so much so that he got up in the second bout

Pocas Veces he Visto Rivales que le han Parado el Macho a Muhamad Ali.Ese Dug Jones fue un Digno Rival.😊😊😊😊😊.

Hardly the greatest but he was a great fighter.

I thought the same but then somebody woke me up!

@Georgesember9069 ...Ali won, fair and square, PERIOD!!!

Your friend was wrong.

@@danielhkhk7283 He friend is legally blind.

I can't say for sure but it's very similar to his voice

Yes it is him.

Yes, if you watch the video further along, Chris Shenckel identified himself. Those were great days watching the Wide World of Sports. Not to be repeated. It’s like the original MNF crew. You had to be there to truly understand and appreciate how great the broadcasters were. Frank Gifford, Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith. The game was secondary. You tuned in because the announcers made it fun to watch.

cassius/ali danced away as he always did. great INTELLIGENT fighter

If Jones had of been 200 lbs, that right cross that he hit Clay with in the first round would have did more damage

@@frereanaktom99yes…. And people don’t give clay enough credit for being a masterful clencher

@terrencerandle1184 it wouldn't have matter because Clay would have still gotten up. Clay established all the way to Ali. You're not knocking him out, and he can take your best power punch.

@@richardmccormick859 You’re absolutely correct.😊👍🏾. Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper, and OMG Joe Frazier, and Ernie Shavers all knocked him down with shots that would have slept a Bull, and Ali just got right back up!!.(even though Shavers didn’t knock him all the way down). Ken Norton broke his jaw, allegedly in the first round, and Ali finished the 15 round match. That was a great response that you made.

Jones was in his prime at age 26...Who knows how old Liston was? 35-39 maybe. The 26 yo Liston likely would have crushed this young, 202lb Clay.

@@curbozerboomer1773 yeah excuses for Liston don't work, he was the champion and nobody gave cassius a chance. We saw a much younger George foreman lose to Ali who was less than 50 percent of what he was when he first won the title from Liston. Ali danced circles around sonny while connecting with combinations till the punch induced blindness caused him to quit. Ali was a fraction of himself since the 3 Plus years suspension of 1967, but still took on the hardest puncher George who was 24 years, absorbed all foreman could give and won.

This is not a prime ali he was prime in about sixty seven.

@@jeffriessman9693 ...False! Ali spent his prime time in exile.

Você este no auge,seu palpiteira, seu homem vaca 🤣🤣

​@@marcosferro9898 ele não mentiu, o auge do ali seria em 1967 1968 69 70, o ano em que ele foi banido do boxing infelizmente

@@kakashihatake6176 Banned for a damn good reason.

Hard to not get hit by arguably the fastest heavyweight ever

no. Harold Johnson retiro en 1955. Anos antes que Clay/Ali empeso a palear professional

​@@ConstantinoKosteris😋😋😌

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No fue así, Harold y Ali estaban activos en el mismo tiempo, la única diferencia era que Harold era veterano.

Sounds reasonable

Agree

Yes on sheer volume of punches, majority of which were accurate

Clay 8-2

jones 600 188 gives clay hell, how did sonny liston a 601 218.lb brute with 84 inch lose to clay two years later ? When fight stopped cards were scored even, may liston did tear his rotator cuff

No, he was defeated too many times to be the greatest. Although he did have the greatest mouth. Undisputed!

Not hardly

What about Los Angeles Angels radio commentator Terry Smith? He is sooooooooooooooooooo boring!

Who were the robbers? Guess not the referees but Ali's skills over Doug's mere power

Not hardly

Same when Ali fought Norton. Ali had no answers. Ali rested a lot. He’d find no time to rest against Rocky Marciano. Non stop puncher for as long as it took.

Clay won this fight...but here, the two fighters looked like middleweights!...No real power in their punches, Clay was not as sharp as he was later in his career..and he actually did get hit kinda hard a few times, but showed us that he, even as a 200lb kid, could take a punch. Jones was in his prime here, and was clearly a very good fighter. But Clay showed flashes of his incredible speed, and made it clear that he was going to be a real force to be dealt with. His best fighting weight, IMO, at least eventually, was around 211-214 lbs. The Ali who fought a few years later, weighed in at nearly 220...and had lost some of his lightning speed, but could hit harder than he showed here, as a 202lb kid.

@@curbozerboomer1773 movement, speed, and endurance were a big part of ali's game. seems his best fights were around 210-211. he was 215 for frazier 1. his movement was terrible.

What did he say that was as bad as you claim? You judging the legend 😂😂😂😂

What about Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini?