Checking on my Investment in Person - Framework Laptop Factory Tour
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While in Taiwan for Computex, linus decided it was the perfect time to check in on his investment in Framework in person. It’s factory tour time, baby!
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
1:05 - CableMod!
1:17 - What it takes to build more laptops
2:15 - Preproduction vs. Mass Production
3:39 - Automatic Screwing Machine
4:45 - Kitting Stations
6:00 - Assembly
8:20 - Quality Control
11:37 - Rejects
12:52 - Signing some Laptops
14:11 - CableMod!
14:56 - Outro
@posarkar5314 10 місяців тому
its so great to see huge companies boosting small channels like Linus
@JJFlores197 10 місяців тому
🤣🤣
@bhoot1702 10 місяців тому
Huh
@novalassassin5496 10 місяців тому
@@phant0m597i mean that pretty big but that's not the point 😅
@novalassassin5496 10 місяців тому
@@L2002 Ok I just grew up what now ?
@vmafarah9473 10 місяців тому
@@L2002 yOU point will be big if you have a great genetics.
@telotawa 10 місяців тому
I absolutely would buy the ones that don't pass the visual QA. Please, Framework, make that an option. Edit: I don't even want the discount. I'll pay full price.
@KevinCrouch0 10 місяців тому
Honestly, I don't know if it would actually be worth it to cost less though. Because it would require manual time to inventory the blemishes, you know?
@bradhaines3142 10 місяців тому
@@KevinCrouch0 i mean apparently for the DIY laptops they literally unbuild the thing, so taking pictures really isnt the biggest step
@lightningdev1 10 місяців тому
@@KevinCrouch0 The DIY version is also marginally cheaper than the pre-built while it also requires more labor though
@brentw8365 10 місяців тому
Thought they sold refurb units with these, but apparently not.
@harmonic5107 10 місяців тому
Absolutely. That'd be awesome. Having the option to buy damaged parts from returns would be awesome too
@KarlRock 10 місяців тому
These behind the scenes video are awesome.
@theshivrajroy 10 місяців тому
our indian pewdiepie is here lmao
@liberationyogi 10 місяців тому
What's up I love u
@ls200076 10 місяців тому
True
@user-ie3gc2pz2x 10 місяців тому
Big fan of your videos mate
@Don_Kiddick 10 місяців тому
@@theshivrajroy holy shit im ded
@MrScorpianwarrior 10 місяців тому
I just realized that Linus only funded around $200,000 to Framework, but the marketing that Framework gets out of videos like this has got to be INSANELY high. I have 4 laptops I don't use (of various ages and power) but I still really want to buy a Framework...
@MrMoon-hy6pn 10 місяців тому
I'm not saying you can't, but doesn't buying something you won't use go against frameworks entire philosophy of reducing waste?
@MrScorpianwarrior 10 місяців тому
@@MrMoon-hy6pn It certainly does lol
@wilddemur9796 10 місяців тому
@@MrMoon-hy6pn Well if he does get a Framework he won't need to hop from laptop to laptop anymore since it can be upgraded over time
@theangryintern 10 місяців тому
I have a brand new M2 MBP and an Asus windows gaming laptop I bought last year and I still really want to get the 16" framework when it comes out.
@veerand541 10 місяців тому
I think it was specified in an early Framework video that his marketing power is why they chose him instead some other investors.
@nepp- 10 місяців тому
if companies were more open like this, I'm sure their brand trust would be much better
@inadequateusername7280 10 місяців тому
This assembly line is no different than any other laptop assembly line. A company like Dell likely has their own due to vertical integration and such. There's only so many ways you can build a laptop.
@zacharytaylor8523 10 місяців тому
@@inadequateusername7280 I swear there is a certain attitude that comes out of certain people when others ask about having a compony open up a little. While I would agree there are only so many ways to make something, it's the little things that can make a big difference in what users experience and the companies that are venomously against any type of peek into their process I guarantee you has shit to hide. I know Dell does as they shipped me a laptop that flat-out didn't have the Wi-Fi antennas connected.
@Jehty21 10 місяців тому
What do you mean? Like seriously... We didn't see anything in this video. You will find a video of this depth for basically every major brand.
@Wither_Strike 10 місяців тому
@@Jehty21I saw more in this video than I've seen from Dell or apple. Most of it was stuff that seemed like common sense, only so many ways to build a laptop, but the fact that they showed this much is still more than other companies
@inadequateusername7280 10 місяців тому
@@Wither_Strike have you never seen Foxconn building an iPhone?
@SDMasterYoda 10 місяців тому
So the DIY one is actually more labor intensive, but they still charge less for it. Crazy!
@GSBarlev 10 місяців тому
Yeah, that surprised me. I'm not sure if that's just because they're still in the pre-production phase or if the lower cost is due to some other factor (like VAT savings or some regulatory loophole).
@matthewlozy1140 10 місяців тому
Very surprising!
@Farquad76.547 10 місяців тому
Yeah how Damn stupid is that lol
@gregor2436 10 місяців тому
I don't understand, why they are doing it that way. Why not only ship the stuff directly?
@Amythiz 10 місяців тому
@@gregor2436how would they test it than? DIY laptop should still pass quality control
@MrSnrSquishy 10 місяців тому
Nirav seems like such a cool dude, I really hope Framework is successful not just because I think it's a great idea but I also think Nirav deserves the success based on his overall vision, we need more people pushing for cool sustainable ideas like this.
@cyb221100 10 місяців тому
As a manufacturing engineer I can appreciate the small design changes to facilitate the installation and improve takt time. You can definitely tell the process is not optimised for full production and there are a lot of tweeks that can be done. I would love to see more content like this! Especially related to your products or even LTT labs processes.
@boysenbeary 10 місяців тому
Honestly loving these “Linus checks out something he wants” kinda videos
@mickolesmana5899 10 місяців тому
Yeah, it is happy to see that when Linus putting off the burden of him being CEO. Honestly it is very fresh to see
@Eogos 10 місяців тому
@@mickolesmana5899 pretty sure he said on the WAN show that all these so far are filmed while he's still been doing CEO work, a few before the decision was even fully decided and/or announced.
@Adriono100 10 місяців тому
Never thought I would watch 15 minutes of a small company making such great laptops 👌
@Soul-Burn 10 місяців тому
Factory tours are the best! Linus' trip to Intel's fab was super interesting. GN just did a tour of AMD, which was also cool to see.
@Scnottaken 10 місяців тому
I had to keep repeating to myself "I don't need it"
@drewo.127 10 місяців тому
@@Scnottaken Face it dude… YOU NEEEEEED IIIIIIIIIIT!!!!
@FaZekiller-qe3uf 10 місяців тому
@@ScnottakenI NEEEEEEEEEEED IT.
@TvMaNightmareHD 10 місяців тому
The scratch and dent ones could totally be sponsored by Dbrand, make it pretty and easy sale
@jonathannoneofyourbusiness4123 10 місяців тому
Few months after my purchase of a framework and I frankly have no regrets. Like Linus, I really hope framework is successful... We need more repairable laptops and laptops built for linux. :)
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 місяців тому
We need more repairable technology in general. We need to move away from the disposable culture that has developed.
@WildMidwest1 10 місяців тому
Agreed. Out of curiosity, which linux distro did you settle on? Did you struggle with drivers, for instance involving the fingerprint sensor? How reliably is suspend mode? I have an HP Dev One (AMD Ryzen 7) with three linux distros currently installed. I never needed to install a driver for any of the 10+ distros I tried, and I never experienced a sleep issue with any of them. Sadly the Dev One line was EOL’ed by HP in January, so it’s not a Frame competitor anymore. I love the Dev One fit and finish. Some people complain about its screen viewing angle but it doesn’t bother me. 64 gb RAM and 2 TB SSD upgrades were a breeze… around five minutes after doing it a couple times. My latest Dev One upgrade is a 1.5 mm copper heatsink to the SSD, which it definitely helps attenuate temp fluctuations. Good value for < $5 shipped. Using the thinnest available contact adhesive strip to the controller chip was necessary to avoid pressure against the bottom case.. Can you add a heatsink to the SSD inside your Framework 13?
@199Bubi 10 місяців тому
I work in a low volume, flexible production, company that manufactures electronics in Germany and I have the urge to optimize. Also @Linus: Especially with super varying products a faster line isn't always better! A slower production that keeps inventory small and only produces what's demanded can yield way better results! Also scalability as in multiplying lines is only good if you already have like 20 lines. Otherwise you have to double sales for it to make sense to double the lines for example from one to two
@tams805 10 місяців тому
I mean, they're using Compel as the ODM. They aren't exactly a small company.
@199Bubi 10 місяців тому
@@tams805 To clarify: Low volume goods manufacturing doesn't equal small company. It means high variation manufacturing with a lot of manual labour, which is expensive and should therefore be optimized as much as possible.
@rodrigoaranda7029 10 місяців тому
keeps you flexible enough
@gorillafighter4037 10 місяців тому
I love how friendly the CEO is and basically humors Linus' Shenaningans/jokes.
@Tsuroerusu 10 місяців тому
And throws in some sick burns when needed! xD
@baseballjustin5 10 місяців тому
Helps he paid a Quarter Mill, I think, lol
@muddystick 10 місяців тому
Dude is a significant shareholder, businesses will do whatever they can to humour shareholders.
@baseballjustin5 10 місяців тому
@Dale did he get shares, or did he just invest?
@gabm.3475 10 місяців тому
@baseballjustin5 what do you mean by get shares or just invest? Buying shares = investing. In the case of framework it's not publicly traded so only certified investors (aka people who are rich enough to face the higher risk of losing when investing in risky companies)can buy shares so I guess it's more complicated then just buying shares but I'm a little confused by your question.
@AgentOrange96 10 місяців тому
The fact that the Framework uses screws to hold the keyboard together is very telling. Normally those get riveted together, but I guess when your end goal is repairability, that goes out the window. God, I can't wait to get one of these machines!
@TheBackyardChemist 10 місяців тому
Riveted? Bah, I wish. They are mostly heat-staked.
@blockbertus 10 місяців тому
@@TheBackyardChemist which is the plastic version of a metal rivet. same but different.
@AgentOrange96 10 місяців тому
@@blockbertus @TheBackyardChemist True. This is what I meant, but I suppose real riveting would at least make it easy to drill out and replace.
@blockbertus 10 місяців тому
@@sys-administrator you have loctite for that on screws. thats the blue stuff you sometimes see on Laptop screws.
@AgentOrange96 10 місяців тому
@@sys-administrator In theory. The Model M keyboard is a counterexample though. But most laptops won't be used that long and honestly even then I doubt they're as likely to have that issue as the Model M.
@captainpumpkinhead1512 10 місяців тому
In the three Framework videos we've gotten so far where Nirav has been present, it's been fun kind of watching the dynamic between him and Linus. I'm not sure how to describe it, it's just fun. It's like the energetic friend and the quiet friend dynamic.
@hyperion8650 10 місяців тому
Honestly the framework videos are super entertaining to watch. Framework succeeding as a brand is one of the best things for modern technology, since it has the potential to make other brands follow it's example and overall be better for the consumer. Also, the idea of giving little hints to the consumers inside of their pc's (on a laptop that's all modular) is pretty amazing!
@autohmae 10 місяців тому
They are the Fairphone of laptops
@Call_Me_David 10 місяців тому
I can just imagine the conversations Nirav has with his s.o. when he gets home and vents about the stressful things Linus put him through that particular time. He seems to be a good sport about it and takes it on stride, but you can still tell he gets a little nervous. It is fun to watch though, and that's precisely why Linus does it.
@Quizack 10 місяців тому
He has a lot riding on this company. His entire career hinges on the success of Framework, and he needs to be able to focus on and control and every aspect of the company that he possibly can. He can’t afford any bad publicity, or controversy. Linus is a great dude, and is clearly very passionate about Framework, but we all know he’s not a very mature and careful guy. However, Linus definitely has a very large audience too, so any videos on Framework can potentially mean thousands of dollars in new customers, or at the very least tens of thousands new potential customers and the brand awareness. IMO, Nirav knows what he’s getting with Linus, and as much as he appreciates it, he’s also rightfully anxious. If it wasn’t for LTT I wouldn’t have known about Framework and bought one myself. Looking forward to Q4!
@hiddendrifts 10 місяців тому
@@Quizack i honestly forget where i first heard of framework, but it definitely wasn't from linus. it was super cool, just like frore, to see a big tech channel talking about a product i'd only vaguely heard of initially [in the case of frore, from PC World]
@Gatorade69 10 місяців тому
@@Quizack I mean I only know of Framework because of LTT. While I don't currently have the need for a laptop but if I did I would instantly be a customer of Framework.
@weirdovillemania9978 10 місяців тому
Nirav is sexy
@theftking 10 місяців тому
It might just be that he's a nerdy tech CEO and isn't used to being on camera like that. Linus recently talked about how they'd like to do more viewer interaction, but the reality is that most people are awful on camera and don't get better until they've done it a lot.
@alexanderf8451 10 місяців тому
Framework should absolutely have an "ugly vegetable" type of option for units with scratches. There are plenty of people who don't care about every square millimeter of the finish being perfect.
@urmomsahoe1 10 місяців тому
I was thinking 2 or 3 different categories for different levels of damaged to make selling easier. No specific pictures just a general idea of what will be wrong with it.
@demospolsion6539 10 місяців тому
@@urmomsahoe1Also maybe a little 1-2 sentences saying the type of damage and location. Like “scratch on bottom panel” or “dent on top panel”
@greebj 10 місяців тому
That's what the second hand market is for lol
@yokun1885 10 місяців тому
@@greebjsecond hand implies that someone already used the product the first time
@quantumsniper9433 10 місяців тому
@@urmomsahoe1 Usually for this kind of stuff you'd sell "B-stock", A stock being normal units that passed qc while B stock has minor cosmetic issues
@Chrismettal 10 місяців тому
Love the transparency! Nothing better than factory tours showing the actual processes in place.
@Respectable_Username 10 місяців тому
Love hearing about how Framework's going! I've got my little Framework laptop sitting beside me here on the couch, still going strong. Love to see the business growing; gives me confidence it'll be around for long enough for me to upgrade parts!
@matasa7463 10 місяців тому
Framework's CEO Nirav is quite good on camera, moreso than many CEOs out there! It's almost like he has a ton of experience in front of a camera...
@PrograError 10 місяців тому
I think knowing Linus is an investor force him to be out of the shell.... plus you need to be of certain skin to be CEO
@whatever1538 10 місяців тому
I think I remember seeing him in an video on P-hub, that explains it.
@Henrix1998 10 місяців тому
@@PrograError you need certain skin to be with Linus
@leonro 10 місяців тому
@@whatever1538 false, nobody remembers the guy on cornhub unless he's bald, muscular, a sinner, and starts out by just doing his job
@uwuclxdy 10 місяців тому
@@Henrix1998 we didnt forget xddd
@TheUnlocked 10 місяців тому
Linus walking into the board room and talking to the camera while other people are having discussions in the background was hilarious. I'm sure they were primed for it (e.g. "we're going to film here, act like you're talking about important stuff"), but still.
@Gatsu563 10 місяців тому
I think that might be him acting in front of a green screen on this one, given the absence of reaction of EVERYONE in the room.
@jkahgdkjhafgsd 10 місяців тому
yeah obvious greenscreen lol, still funny to just show up and be filming though
@meqativ 10 місяців тому
it isn't a greenscreen bruh, look at the hair..
@theneonbop 10 місяців тому
@@Gatsu563 lol its a handheld camera, I doubt they have one of those expensive camera rigs you need to green screen a handheld camera
@AarPlays 10 місяців тому
@@Gatsu563 yes, this is exactly what priming DOES. "Hey we'll be walking in and filming, please don't react or look at the camera. It's distracting for the viewer"
@jessechristman1471 10 місяців тому
I can already feel the tension melting off of Linus after he announced hes stepping down from CEO. His content is going to be so much more enjoyable now that he gets to be excited about the things he actually wants to do
@muddystick 10 місяців тому
Seeing the DIY station really takes away the magic on a build your own laptop.
@BadMax02_VR 10 місяців тому
Framework is actually the first laptop brand where i am legit excited to see what comes next, either a LTT video or like the 16" modular keyboard laptop or what ever they come up with next. My next Laptop is definitly going to be a Framework when they finally get a dedicated gpu inside of them, also wouldnt it be funny if they tried making a laptop with desktop chips so that you can swap the cpus? :p (tho that would probably be really hard to implement well with long battery live, good and little powerconsuption and stuff like that)
@artdeell 10 місяців тому
To be fair, you probably can engineer a socket for the Intel's laptop BGA SoCs, but i doubt it will work well, and would probably be a huge complications in terms of the BIOS and such
@lucianobestia 10 місяців тому
There are professionals that would love desktop performance in a thick laptop. And they dont care about battery. It is for office and home use only, but portable.
@wuokawuoka 10 місяців тому
As an avid trackpoint user, I'd really love to see such a part. But in actual fact I'm looking forward to the GPU option(s) more. Including buying the 16" model first, then buy a GPU later.
@IsM1ku 10 місяців тому
A lot of people have cases where they need a portable computer but don't really have a need for a battery, for example kids living in multiple parents' houses (or just visiting grandma on the weekend), or perhaps bringing your own machine to work
@bocahdongo7769 10 місяців тому
@@artdeell Better. There's already a LGA1200 laptop in 2023 Albeit it's really chonk gaming laptop, and the performance is just suck, and some questionable firmware, so never expect K processor there. But hey, it's 600 USD
@stanimirnikolov159 10 місяців тому
It's cool they let Linus and his team film there, by default those assembly environments are tightly controlled and you have to follow set protocols to minimise contamination.
@Pixelplanet5 10 місяців тому
this is not a clean room though so the risk is minimal that 2 people filming there make any difference.
@ScarfmonsterWR 10 місяців тому
It's a laptop they sell as a kit for customer to assemble. I don't think contamination is of any worry here.
@San4311 10 місяців тому
@@ScarfmonsterWR Not all of them are kits. They sell them pre-built too, which Linus did clarify in the video. Only a portion of them get disassembled after QA.
@ialrakis5173 10 місяців тому
Guess I'd do exactly the same. Being open to customers can only become an advantage.
@ScarfmonsterWR 10 місяців тому
@@San4311 I never said they don't sell assembled
@mistapitts 10 місяців тому
The volume and quality of videos being uploaded recently is so fkin impressive... Good job getting it all to here, Linus! And the rest of the team ofcourse
@carlsoll 10 місяців тому
Love how much you’ve been involved in so many Videos Linus 😄 I know there’s much more to it, since you changed your Business around, it’s great still learning and having your input :)
@Volvith 10 місяців тому
Linus: "I'm gonna stop being a CEO." Everyone: _"Oh no!"_ Linus: "To do more cool stuff, and show you guys more cool stuff." Everyone and the Koolaid man: *_"Oh yeah!"_*
@trignite 10 місяців тому
This video was definetely filmed before the 2nd of june. it was when computex was on as shown at the start. So this video is not a result of linus stepping down.. he did that after.
@iletyoucallmestevesy 10 місяців тому
@@trignite Watch out everyone. Fun police are here
@FirestormX9 10 місяців тому
@@iletyoucallmestevesy my alcohol drink turned to water soon as i read that comment
@iletyoucallmestevesy 10 місяців тому
@@FirestormX9 oh snap we got a reverse Jesus here too?! Everybody scatter!
@benblarney 10 місяців тому
@@FirestormX9lol they sure be killing the fun
@albuslee4831 10 місяців тому
Just the publishing budget saved by partnering with Linus seems huge for Frameworks, ignoring any of the money Linus invested into Frameworks. Even though Frameworks laptops are good enough to be surfaced by itself without any help, it might have took much more time to be well known to the general public without the partnership with Linus.
@nakulbaliga 10 місяців тому
Yes, correct. Also I don't think Linus is only $224k deep into Frameworks, must've been atleast a mil by now. These laptop manufacturers even though small, need huge amounts upfront to get started and build custom lines for companies like Frameworks.
@cookiemon420 10 місяців тому
@@nakulbaligaHe is one of the smallest investors
@Gkokkinakis2 10 місяців тому
@@nakulbaligathey have other investors
@Padgriffin 10 місяців тому
Honestly I agree- Linus has made it clear that he himself has very little to do with Framework’s actual development, but we’re okay with that. Linus’s brand is a massive asset and being associated with him and having him as a public-facing partner is a massive boon.
@brucepreston3927 10 місяців тому
@@Padgriffin Yeah I'm sure Linus promoting Framework on LTT was part of the deal...It's kind of a win-win for both of them...Linus gets videos out of it and if the videos help sell more laptops then he makes more money that way also...
@DctrGizmo 10 місяців тому
It’s really nice to see a CEO this chill as Linus! The tour was pretty cool and it seems like Framework cares a lot about quality. Let’s just hope they increase their production line soon after this.
@valervan 10 місяців тому
Glad to hear that Framework is going to supply the local Taiwan market. It's infuriating how a tons of products are made here or have head quarters here, yet you are not able to buy them locally.... Or with high price that actually results in the lrofuct being cheaper to order from japanese Amazon and inprot it to Taiwan.
@MikeMaragni 10 місяців тому
the framework ceo is always a top performer when he's on video lol
@alan_7390 10 місяців тому
He's so chill
@FrameworkComputer 10 місяців тому
Thanks!
@idk12147 10 місяців тому
@@FrameworkComputeroh wow, it's the actual channel
@KevwePatani 10 місяців тому
@@FrameworkComputer Keep up the good work!
@troublebot 10 місяців тому
He's like completley immune to Linus' Linusness
@Revoc 10 місяців тому
I remember Linus talking on the wan show about getting more in depth videos and not just show up to a company and here a gpu. And these types of videos rock and glad he gets to do these videos.
@ydna 10 місяців тому
very interesting - I did some contracts in automotive suppliers (subassembly stuff like this) and they use a similar process. the big difference is a wider variety of tasks and components that needed to be completed for the finished dashboards, so they had stations with different numbers of people that would balance it out and allow each subassy to consume the same amount of time. it was also broken up between people that did mechanical work and those that completed the electrical assy afterward. hopefully Framework reaches that level with the new expanded lines!
@TmanT321 10 місяців тому
I think the respect that linus and nirav have for each other is definitely evident. Nirav knows where linus started, and knows where he is now. Linus knows where nirav is starting, and knows where he can go. I love this partnership, and I have been asking for years where my fully modular laptop and smartphone are? These two are going to pioneer that if they work together and work hard enough. Big ups to you both, and good luck.
@TheBorhork 10 місяців тому
If they did a scratch and dent sale as a blind box style, that would be cool. My laptops tend to get thrashed over time anyway, so getting one new for a few bucks off that might have a scratch, I'm on board with that.
@qpSubZeroqp 10 місяців тому
Yeah, same here
@PrograError 10 місяців тому
I wonder how the warranty would be for those...
@GSBarlev 10 місяців тому
@@PrograError If it's cosmetic imperfections only it really shouldn't matter. As production ramps up I also imagine that they'll end up with a stock of returns and factory refurbs to supplement the small volume of production-line oopsies.
@victorhugofranciscon7899 10 місяців тому
@@PrograErrorwarranty for the internals about the external only the functional parts
@TheBorhork 10 місяців тому
@@PrograError I'm sure if it really came down to it, they can make a special version of the warranty that excludes cosmetic defects as a point. In theory, they could just take a picture of each unit along with its serial number before it ships so that way they know if it was damage from shipping, or pre-existing damage. Sure, it might take a little bit of extra time to process all of that, but if it means selling otherwise unsellable units, it could be worth it long-term.
@TheMarshalOfLeague 10 місяців тому
I have so much trust in Linus's opinion it's kind of scary. His transparency is so transparent I forget that he has personal stake in this sometimes!
@GonzoPandora69420 10 місяців тому
I wish there were more journalists like Linus in the modern era.
@ob9444 10 місяців тому
@@GonzoPandora69420 we definitely need more media like Linus and friendlyjordies.
@Gpeagasus246 10 місяців тому
@@ob9444 who's friendlyjordies? do they also cover tech?
@dabearsfan9 10 місяців тому
@@Gpeagasus246 no he’s an Australian reporter who digs deep into the corruption of the government and stuff
@Gpeagasus246 10 місяців тому
@@dabearsfan9 oh okay. very cool
@philsbbs 10 місяців тому
love the factory/supplier tours and look forward to more in the future.
@NewtHew 10 місяців тому
As someone who works in Manufacturing (specifically, in QA) this video was really interesting! I’d be surprised if the dot gauge Linus referred to was used outside of process, though I suppose that depends on whether the housing for the laptop was sub-supplied (as opposed to manufactured in-house). Edit: though I didn’t consider secondary damage from the manufacturing process, in which case in depth fault analysis wouldn’t be applicable
@Deja117 10 місяців тому
It's a win win scenario here... Linus's channel can drive sales, and that will make his investment better. I do fully support what this company is doing though. About time this happened, a laptop is essentially a desktop with innovative cooling solutions for a small space after all, at least in my mind it is... And yes, of course power limiting etc is also a thing to consider.
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 місяців тому
To linus the company mission is more important than the money he's invested. Realistically he's a fairly small investor, but one with a pretty good reach which framework would be fools to ignore.
@corail53 10 місяців тому
@@bionicgeekgrrl Linus is in it for the money, always has been.
@NoVisionGuy 9 місяців тому
@@corail53 lol you make it sound like he shouldn't make money and give charity to framework instead
@matthewlozy1140 10 місяців тому
I'm surprised to see the DIY editions get disassembled at the end, but that totally makes sense for quality control. The more you think about it the more surprising it is as thr DIY edition is cheaper.
@GRBtutorials 10 місяців тому
Well, the prebuilt comes with a Windows license, and Microsoft products aren’t known for being affordable.
@SGCSmith 10 місяців тому
Framework is great. I bought two as gifts to family members, and might buy the 16" model once it comes out for myself. I'm glad to see they're growing and expanding.
@VladimirKostek 10 місяців тому
This was really cool to see, i just released a video today on the framework 16 so have been researching the company and it's refreshing to see how they operate!
@leftfootdown 10 місяців тому
Just watched ur vid, the 16 is damn cool
@ShannonMcCraryH 10 місяців тому
Can we just mention how the Framework CEO actually seems like he cares about the product and what he is doing?
@sirgavalot 10 місяців тому
I like straight man/funny man interplay between him and Linus in all the videos they're in together
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 місяців тому
I suspect that will be a rather large factor in linus investment decision. The mission of framework is one linus wants to ideally become the industry standard or as close as possible. So more ltt viewers buying framework laptops potentially could lead to other brands following their lead to try and leverage that appeal.
@JohnDoe-uq2qd 10 місяців тому
Most CEOs do, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at their job
@Dodger24 10 місяців тому
That's usually how all company founders are. If the company ever changes CEO's, then that's usually when the company starts caring more about profits than products or customers
@Errcyco 10 місяців тому
That’s a CEO you want, excited and talented.
@Torbox1 10 місяців тому
The fact that they are modular I would also imagine helps a lot with reducing production waste. If a normal fully integrated MoBo with RAM and SSD failed because one RAM chip or the SSD was faulty I don't imagine most manufacturers would de-solder the faulty component to try and save the board, but with Framework they easily just swap out the faulty component and retest the system. Awesome!!
@Raums 10 місяців тому
I did not expect to eat my breakfast watching this ask the way through, great job folks, all the best for the future of what could be a game changing company!
@meerkatairforce8182 10 місяців тому
This is sick. I hope LTT gets to make more of this kind of content.
@nehalmathew7510 10 місяців тому
The systems with scratches and stuff should be categorised into groups/tiers depending on the severity of the damage. Then it can be sold for a discount depending on the tier.
@Applekendee 10 місяців тому
@@56kwith200pingve worked on a PCB manufacturing as an engineer, I gotta tell you they are throwing away millions of dollars because it has a visual defect such as scratch and dent. Either we are using ISO standard or most of the time customer requirements which is absurd. ISO should control these companies because it has no impact on the functionality of the board.
@guitarsolos89 10 місяців тому
@@56kwith200pingBut you still need to follow the standard of selling mint condition products. If brand new is just whatever and products could have dents etc, the standard would just get worse and worse over time. I'm thankful quality controls are these strict.
@MuitoDaora 10 місяців тому
@@guitarsolos89 So Teslas then
@Daunlouded 10 місяців тому
That is literally what they said on the video.
@kidShibuya 10 місяців тому
Except that classifying and making extra sales channels all costs money, which pushes the prices of these 'cheaper' laptops back up.
@danielalexander8402 10 місяців тому
As a factory worker videos like this help make me feel valid. Thank you for making content like this.
@corican 10 місяців тому
Thank you for your service. O7
@c2thew 10 місяців тому
Genuinely excited to see how framework grows as a company. It’s such a unique concept. It’s going to be tough to dethrone legacy manufacturers especially when apple is becoming more and more efficient in its m2 chip production but still ignores the gaming community
@WilliamOwyong 10 місяців тому
It's great seeing Linus being like a kid in a candy store, with Nirav being the ever-watchful parent :)
@kryzentech 10 місяців тому
Dang. These laptops are absolutely insane! Their founder is such a nice guy; he actually knows every nook and cranny of his company! EDIT: Wow! I have more likes than subs :D
@FlyboyHelosim 10 місяців тому
Not really.
@matteventu 10 місяців тому
Well he's not just "a CEO" like HP's one or Lenovo's one, he's also the actual founder.
@coldbreezeproductions1148 10 місяців тому
what is the appeal to this? just don't see it being profitable in the long run...
@Mutteron 10 місяців тому
@@FlyboyHelosim0:22 😅😮y😢
@Mutteron 10 місяців тому
52s🎉?2
@KangoV 10 місяців тому
This is awesome. I designed and wrote an MES (Manufacturing Execution System) for a large US electronics manufacturer who is the leader in surround sound (guess who?). This brings back so many good memories. I could sit and watch the pick and place machines all day, but it was the Scorpion Flying Probe Tester that really blew my mind.
@kaukospots 10 місяців тому
No highs, no lows? I think my favorite assembly factory video is the one for the Steam controller, but it's great to see more of this kind of stuff up close
@allentchang 10 місяців тому
Did your MES system include manufacturing lot hold and release?
@noahflare6825 10 місяців тому
Hopefully they will have more lines and have better output, helping get this laptop into more consumers. I wish nothing but success for Framework
@ericvogt5460 10 місяців тому
Totally love it that you show us the processes behind the devices. I will definitely buy a framewok as my next laptop to take part of this journey. Also I really would like the thing with the „sorted out“ devices on the QC getting selled at an discount. But when there are only small optical „failures“ the device should be pictured with the not so good parts and selled full price to be fair.
@anthonyblacker8471 10 місяців тому
It's interesting to see when the machine is installing the screws on the keyboard (all 80 of them!! wow) it's similar to installing a head onto an engine block. You have to put in the bolts (screws same thing) in a specific order and tighten them to a very exact torque specification or it will do bad things like crack or leak or worse. That's pretty neat to see they actually consider all of these things in a silly thing you'd never expect, like a keyboard. Nice, and also that's a BIG part of where the comes from when you buy a newer generation of something, there's a LOT of Research and Development or R&D that goes into the initial design and pre manufacture. It's NOT cheap to start something new. Not even a little, ask Linus how much it cost him to release the Screwdriver that is friggin' awesome for any PC builder!!
@KolbPROD 10 місяців тому
I absolutely agree with the comparison to cars, I'm an auto tech who grew up building PCs, and it's surprisingly translateable
@2nd3rd1st 10 місяців тому
And THAT'S why God invented the electric motor.
@gerthddyn 10 місяців тому
Framework is what makes me excited about mobile computing again. Them and how steam has approached the Steamdeck make me hope that the trends that Apple started with the Macbook Air aren't the only trajectory endpoint. I've been waiting for the Ryzen models to ship, but you showing us that you can replace the intel motherboard with a ryzen one really thrilled me.
@-Blue-_ 10 місяців тому
Apple is garbage company now with there cult followers called "isheeps"
@danzajaczkowski7783 10 місяців тому
Such a great concept. Great job all.
@neonWHALE002 3 місяці тому
Thanks for showing us this, very interesting. I find it interesting that the DIY laptops are cheaper even though they take slightly more work because they disassemble what's already been put together. I'm sure there's more to it than what was shown. Anyway, this is getting me excited for a laptop when I've saved up enough.
@Grumbo91 10 місяців тому
That was so cool. It surprised me how manual and skilled it all is, I'm not exactly sure what I expected but probably something more akin to a car assembly line with robot arms and conveyor belts doing everything.
@Marcus-OK 10 місяців тому
I think these kinds of factory tours (and tours in general) would benefit extremely from a vague diagram / map of where you are and flow/direction from where you were. Just enough to give us location context without pissing off lawyers. Every time you guys do these things there's a "now we're here", "next we're here", and in this video "why is there still so much ahead of us in the assembly line?". It would help a lot in parsing wtf is going on.
@allentchang 10 місяців тому
It's too easy to piss off the lawyers, even for the most seemingly trivial or innocent thing.
@typhon1861 10 місяців тому
Yes, more fo this! This scratches the exact itch the "How It's Made" show did.
@ChrisHuan9 10 місяців тому
This tours are awesome. Love to see more. Gosh do I miss Taiwan.
@PyromancerRift 10 місяців тому
So many factory tours are poping on all the tech channels right now. It's so cool.
@KyleClements 10 місяців тому
I love the idea of an option for buying laptops that don't pass a visual inspection due to a cosmetic blemish but otherwise function to spec. Also, instant upvote to any video with Nirav.
@kitsunekaze93 10 місяців тому
oh no, the case is scratched! *covers with sticker* fixed!
@Jehty21 10 місяців тому
@@kitsunekaze93 *throw it in the backpack a few times and thereby add my own scratches.
@peterfox6159 9 місяців тому
Framework has such a great concept and product. Totally love it :) I am gonna get one, maybe next year or so. Also Nirav and the Framework team members are really great!
@CodeAsm 10 місяців тому
Awesome to see the production line :D Thanks Framework for allowing Linus to be there (and be him). This was one of the silly questions I had for a long time, to see the production of frameworks :D
@Anna_Rae 10 місяців тому
This is genuinely such a cool video. I love it when you go straight to the source where all this cool tech is made 💖💖💖
@sevenofzach 10 місяців тому
Just think about how Linus will be like once we get videos (in about 1-3 months) from after he is actually done with being CEO. Gonna be a wild ride!
@boredcryptek5513 10 місяців тому
I hope Framework hangs around for a long time. I just bought an HP Dev One late last year before learning about Framework. So it will he a few years before i get something new but when i do need something new i intend to get something from them.
@TheCorpsehatch 10 місяців тому
5:20 I work in a plant that makes automotive parts. Lot traceability is essential to isolate any defects down to the shift and sometimes even the hour. Without lot traceability you'd have to put an entire day's worth of production on hold, possibly scrapping good parts.
@firecwby1999 10 місяців тому
Thanks Linus, I already wanted a Framework laptop, but then you had to make me want one even more.
@malyck 10 місяців тому
Ingenious video. Not only did they get an amazing video out of this. They probably bumped up the sales for the company, and their investment. I wouldn't be surprised if framework gave Linus some extra shares for this. I would 😂
@MipuPower 10 місяців тому
I'm so happy to hear that they will soon start selling in Taiwan. I've been looking forward to it for a long time!
@_Makanko_ 10 місяців тому
A great company! Very happy to see they ship with a keyboard for my language. I hate how a lot of keyboard brands don't ship with my language and I would have to swap out keycaps and the like.
@Sir-Media 10 місяців тому
8:52 10/10 sticker placement
@dmr778810 10 місяців тому
I'd have to agree with the one other comment I saw about the laptops that don't pass visual QA. One of my favorite things about them is that (I believe) they don't hurt cost too much, but consumers get a discount for those that "Would love to get one, but it's a bit too expensive." Not to mention, while I'd hate to be the one unknowingly getting a touched up chassis, if _I_ were to be the one touching it up, then I'd only have myself to blame if it didn't look bad.
@xMaverickFPS 10 місяців тому
I was literally just looking into these laptops and then I see this video. Amazing
@SamVeale 10 місяців тому
Awesome video and being able to see how laptops are made is fascinating. Thanks Linus and team :)
@memberberries7669 10 місяців тому
As a member of the custom mechanical keyboard community seeing the station for the sole purpose for checking legends on the keyboard is AMAZING to see and GMK needs to follow suit, I WAITED 2 YEARS FOR MY KEYCAPS AND GOT TWO F3 KEYS AND NO F2 SMH.
@Skyfalcon12345 10 місяців тому
All these factory tours are the successors of "How it's made" and I am HERE for it.
@SreenikethanI 10 місяців тому
oh the memories… does that show still air?
@kutter_ttl6786 10 місяців тому
@@SreenikethanI They still air reruns but the last season was broadcast in 2019.
@SreenikethanI 10 місяців тому
@@kutter_ttl6786 hmm
@StaySic4Ever 10 місяців тому
Neat to see. I am interested in this eventually. Wish to see larger model, 17" would be great. But yeah the dGPU eventually and display option would be awesome.
@AdrianSalomo 3 місяці тому
There seems to be soso chemistry between the two... Thanks a lot for the video!
@BlueW01f 10 місяців тому
Fantastic to see this finally coming to fruition! Can't imagine how excited Linus is.
@JeffGeerling 10 місяців тому
Press F to pay respects for the editor who had to blur everything
@JonathanSteadman2003 10 місяців тому
Love you guys so much. :)
@KleinkMusic 9 місяців тому
This is probably the most I've ever geeked out over a laptop in my life. I'm not in any sort of position to get a new laptop rn but when I am, Framework has my money.
@piersonm5574 10 місяців тому
I love how framework is getting more advertising than most sponsors
@playonstation 10 місяців тому
Imagine getting one of the five Laptop, not watching LTT and wondering: "Why are there ugly marks on my new device?"😂
@Lyunpaw 10 місяців тому
That short sponsor mention was pretty good. I want to know more about Framework but I'm also curious to learn more about that cable mod.
@DancingCorpse 10 місяців тому
9:05 this is called "B Stock" and is very common in audio equipment. They don't take pictures of the stuff, they just have a separate pool of stock that didn't pass the "prettiness" QC check and you get what you get with the knowledge that what you get is not going to be perfect looking but will work exactly like it should.
@stansz 10 місяців тому
11:17 ... big surprise they are running Win7. Thought would be XP lol
@wetflannel6343 10 місяців тому
Can we just appreciate actually seeing inside the factory and how easy it would've been for then to say no without any other options
@AndrewYang1 10 місяців тому
Yay, being able to order this from Taiwan is awesome!
@anthonybernardi4929 10 місяців тому
Such a cool video. Very excited to be feeling genuine optimism about a laptop manufacturer these days!
@Viirax 10 місяців тому
Haven't had much use for a laptop in a while, but when they start shipping here I'll probably be picking one up. Though I hope they can do more keyboard layout options like not having the fn key on the left side of the space bar, just having slightly wider (1.33 times the size of a normal key) ctrl, meta and alt keys like standard keyboards, and leaving the fn key on the right side.
@nicholasvinen 10 місяців тому
I realise this is a pipe dream but I'd love to be able to get a US English keyboard with some of the lesser used (ie, never) keys replaced/augmented with common engineering and mathematical symbols like ° √ × ÷ ± Ω µ ∆ π etc
@adrianmalkovich7101 10 місяців тому
If they had some pictures on their website of worst-case situations on what to expect from blemished devices, and sold them for like 5% off, I'd totally take that deal, because my cats are going to shove it off my desk sooner or later anyway. I don't need to see the issue my specific device has.
@chokepapasmurf 10 місяців тому
Once they start selling in Taiwan, I will definitely look into getting one. I really like the entire concept of their laptops.
@rexhua4833 10 місяців тому
Framework Laptops are getting more interesting. Thank you for the video.
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