Grant of rights is actually not an ESPN thing. It’s a silly ACC thing. ESPN’s contract with the ACC is separate and was only through 2026. ACC lied to the schools and got them to sign through 2036 under false pretenses.

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Podcast baby!!!!

Lol...Ruin college football? Lol...Arguably the DUMBEST thing I've heard

@@BBAKER22 Found the ESPN burner account

Tell people to stop watching then... 🤷‍♂️

@@BBAKER22they influenced college football yes they 100% ruined it stop acting like the Pac-12 died because of itself no it’s because of ESPN and Fox

@@derrickmarsh50 - I presume people are intelligent enough to know that they can vote with their wallet. So, I'm not sure why my comment is so controversial to you.

Clem & FSU have already been talking to the 2 leagues behind closed doors best believe that...

WRONG

@@BBAKER22 wrong about what please explain

The haters really want Clem and FSU to just stay put and drown from the $40M a yr shortfall it's terribly obvious

@@abdulevans1838 BBaker is just a troll (for whatever reason). Defending ESPN is a strange hill to die on, IMHO. But for some people, you can't convince them of the facts even if it bit them in the face.

UNC =/= ACC. The conf as a whole sucks in football (the money maker). Its carried by 1-2 teams per year. Mainly Clemson and then either FSU/Miami. Now as for basketball, its phenominal conf, but doesnt draw the eyes (mainly till march madness).

@@derrickmarsh50check your numbers fsu is one then Clemson and then rest by a mile but even in fsu down years they kill Clemson in viewership. What are you looking at 😂

Basketball makes no money and drives nothing

Keep spitting facts Jen! Renegade Report baby! Let’s go! Where is George?!

@@derrickmarsh50The conference sucks in football? Why, yes it does because most of the schools just dabble in football, they aren’t serious about it and don’t need the money to remain competitive with the elite teams because they have never been competitive and never will be. OTOH, FSU is serious about winning and maintaining parity with the top teams which they can’t do in the ACC. They have to either get out of the conference or eventually end up being a Boston College. They have no intention of letting that happen to them.

Agree. I dumped my ESecPN subscription a couple years back as they contributed to destroying the college conferences. I had to ditch my sling TV streaming service because ESPN is in the package.

Ding ding ding ding! You just hit the nail on the head! They didn't even remotely mention that clause, much less side step it. Just "wow, I'm surprised Clemson did this".

ESPN is hugely interested in keeping the deal bc they got it dirt cheap. Thats why the schools are now hating the deal. They put all their chips in a long term deal and it was a dumb move.

No way ESPN employees want to talk about a 2027 opt out. All they did here was talk about ACC collapse sadness and their perceived lack of interest in FSU and Clemson by the Big 2.

nah, they're still slagging fsu in this broadcast for the "tone" of their lawsuit

63-3, we are so sorry.

@followthemoneyhoney it's as if we have laws in the state of Florida that forced us to do it that way.

@powell4661 duel at dawn, but your gun has no ammo and both of your hands are tied behind your back. Get lost, welfare queen.

@powell4661 how cute! The welfare queen is mad that the breadwinners cut off their trust funds.

Wont happen. Regardless fans will watch. Football is just hugely growing.

@@derrickmarsh50 Why? I'm an Oregon State fan, and my team may as well have folded their entire program. What incentive is there for me to EVER watch another CFB game again? I'm not interested in watching my team play second rate opponents when I've seen them play the best of the best for my entire life, and I'm CERTAINLY not watching the schools and leagues that kicked us to the ground and spat on us. Every single OSU and WSU fan feels this way, and I promise you that every fan of the schools left out will respond similarly. Look at the NBA in Seattle. Sonic fans didn't just shrug and become Blazer fans, they abandoned the sport! Why? Because they resent the NBA for what they did. They HATE the NBA. They may keep casual fans for a time, but casuals are fickle and easily bored. Do you really think they'll be invested in Florida vs Indiana for the 957th time? Or Ohio State vs Alabama for the 20th straight year? People were sick of watching the Cavs and Warriors play, and they only played 3 times!

YEP! And at the end of the day if the SEC ever decides to trim the fat off the bottom, Vandy is first to go, and South Carolina is next on the chopping block along with Mississippi State...

FSU B1G forget the sec and espn

This ain’t the pros this amateur sports stop acting like slaveowners espn

@@antoniobaker7033more like indentured servitude, but yeah

@@meditatingmunky3824 I think they're going to tier the payments. Schools like Vandy will get 15% to 20% less and that money will filter to the top.

horrible officiating, horrible conference management, tobacco road corruption... what's not to love?

The ACC has screwed its members so royally that no team in the ACC has a hope of mattering in football over the coming era, so any fan of an ACC team that cares about football (FSU, Clemson etc.) desperately wants this awful conference to be destroyed so they can find a path elsewhere.

Cause they suck and equal pay other teams that suck worse and continue to only care about the teams that suck

@@lucasparham5068 I understand ACC teams needing to leave in hopes of being competitive. I just care less and less about college sports as realignment continues. I think I'll still enjoy the NCAA tourney but I'll probably skip the regular season and college football if the ACC collapses. I unsubscribed from Sling TV a couple of years because ESPN was part of the package.

It’s all spin - ESPN is the devil in all of this. Don’t kid yourself.

and don't tell me these recent announcements just sprung up... these sorts of realignments are years in the planning. ESPN controlling college sports at this point

It could be the 2 leagues with 24 members each but as long as the other conferences take less revenue to be included, no reason to keep anyone out.

No thanks.

Lol..Arguably the DUMBEST thing I've heard

#1 football only forms new league, the rest of athletics who cares, #2 if only 48 teams, you do 8 teams make CFP. Rest not needed.

I bet you think your parents ruined Santa, too!

Naw not true at all, the NFL is an all star league in itself. Injuries all the time and they make the most money. College football plays less games as well. Naw get rid of the bums and give the people the best product possible and we all will watch.

Most likely the two leagues separate from NCAA and just offer more scholarships. Then they will poach talent from the lower leagues.

One of the mid-majors is likely to be called the PAC-something.

@@cacogenicistnot mid-major. The PAC is dead and any recreation will be below P/A4 status and behind AAC and SBC and possibly MWC in the G5 pecking order. Truth not hate. Keep in mind ESPN and FOX have tons of content out west with the conferences they have now and CBS with MWC and BiG10 conferences. This notion the networks need the PAC recreated or whatever is false and grasping at mythological facts that are utter rubbish and fallacies. If the ACC reforms itself out of this but not recreate or rebuild but reorganize and reshuffle the alignment and membership, then WazzU and OzzU most likely would end up as part of the Westen Wing of ACC with 10 schools back East and all that stuff SMU and others did to be in the ACC becomes all for naught, lol 😅. Does Louisville and Pitt land in the Big12? Possibly but no guarantees. Does Syracuse, Boston College, SMU, and Georgia Tech end up going back to the AAC with some MWC schools added as well? Could be. If FSU, Miami, Clemson, and UNC are able to completely restructure the ACC but meet the 15 teams requirement for Olympic sports by keeping Notre Dame in for those, they could look like something of the following where they get way more than Big12 but still less than BiG10 and SEC but not as big of a gap from the top 2 conferences but still a gap. Miami FSU Clemson Wake Forest Duke NCST UNC VaTech UVA San Diego St Stanford Cal Oregon State Washington State *Notre Dame* for Olympic Sports and still contractually obligated to join ACC before any other conference. I am not saying this will happen but would happen before a rebuilt or recreated PAC happens.

Well... they kind of are. I mean, UNC, FSU, Miami, Duke... Yeah sure we all know those names, but Clemson is the standard of the ACC, and they are just as big if not bigger than all of those other brands. The biggest difference is Clemson has 2 national championships this decade where all of those other brands have to dig decades or point at other sports that don't push the needle like football does. Clemson IS the ACC's best brand that drives revenue RIGHT NOW.

Clemson is the brand of the ACC make no mistake about it 💯!!

i’d swap out UVA for Duke. Duke may not be a top tier football school but they are a blue blood in college basketball. Notre Dame should get a piece of that money too.

@@markjackson6431 The reason I didn't put Duke in there is that they weren't apart of the 7 schools that started this conversation last year. In early 2023, those 7 schools had approached this conversation before and all 7 of them basically said the same thing.......that they should get more money from the tv deal because they bring in more than the others.

@@bradleybowles7979 Duke is tied with UNC so whatever happens to them must happen to the other. plus, Virginia just got spanked on television last night and stink in football and baseball so they might as well leave lol

That still doesn't put them on par of the other conference schools they're competing against. They're going to need $80 million per year to compete. It's impossible to compete with the likes of the SEC and B1G even with a $15 million increase. Tennessee just spent $14 million on a quarterback alone.

the entire point of this rearranging into a P2 is to concentrate the tv revenue into fewer hands. i doubt ESPN or fox care about the now secondary conferences. they'll give them minimal tv deals and profit if any of those schools break out

UNC already said they want to leave too.

If you would’ve cared about schools wanting out, there was time when the landscape began shifting. When the SEC snuck in and took the two top brands from the Big 12, anyone with half a brain knew things were changing. That was the time to address it. Not now while the Power 2 will strangle anyone not taking in similar funds. These others just cannot compete. It’s about survival at this point. If all things are equal from a financial standpoint I’d bet fsu would rather stay in the ACC. But it’s not a d if they want to compete at anything above G5 level they HAVE to move.

When fsu joined the ACC the talk was that the ACC would improve in football. Has it? Maybe in some cases yes. Others say back collecting the paycheck and chose not to invest in their football programs. Now the time is coming that these regrets will echo.

​@@Keith_X it's gonna quite satisfying when the ̶W̶E̶A̶K̶ Wake Forests of the conference start screeching once their welfare checks start bouncing.

@@aznravechild6i9 well Wake has tried to compete. They’ve had moments especially when the powers were down. But there are some who have never tried and only sat back cashing checks. There are a few of those.

it's the new american way!

On the plus side I'm saving about $100 a month since I got rid of my Sling TV because I was sick of ESPN and caring less about college sports is giving me more free time for other entertainment.

CFP acting just like the ACC, selling out the teams for the benefit of who???

Keep state and arkansas, vandy and south carolina can go

The East Carolina Pirates

@@powell4661 Be serious. Who is the best that is left. With or without FSU that will be the final conference in the "P3". Little brother power conference. Not an heir to a throne but still not a peasant.

lol who would that be😂

@@OSU2010 18 in order of viewership last year Colorado, Utah, TCU, Louisville, Miami, Duke,Kansas, BYU, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, UNC, Texas Tech, Kansas State, Pitt, Virginia, NC State, Arizona State

@@OSU2010 Assuming that FSU and Clemson go to the BIG10 the top 18 according to viewership last year are in order(drumroll) Colorado, Utah, TCU, Louisville, Miami, Duke, Kansas, BYU, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, North Carolina, Texas Tech, Kansas State, Pitt, Virginia, North Carolina State, Arizona State

They are an Elite program 💯

your going B1G

@@GoatedAtNFS Not likely.

​@@GoatedAtNFSno way the Big10 is accepting Clemson academics.

Cope

Yeah, got them national championships.

@@christschoolAnd now they realize if you want to get paid like a big boy you have to play against the big boys. Those cupcake days are over.

​@@vagabond197979You do realize you are the cupcake, right? If SEC starts trimming fat, South Carolina is 2nd to go right after Vandy.

@vagabond197979 great. now i want cupcakes

Greg ain’t adding two Techs to water down the conference

@@GoatedAtNFS i mean like Georgia Tech use to be in the SEC. and wasn’t Virginia Tech being courted to join the SEC in 1990 when they were dog water for decades (Frank Beamer didn’t even them to success until the mid 90s). so why does what you’re saying matters?

@@markjackson6431 well back then they didn’t really care about competition and money but now is now, they ain’t letting both of them and clemson nor florida state join, especially after florida state’s meltdown. id say they’re better off joining the Big-12 cuz their conference is gonna be dumpsterfire without Texas and Oklahoma carrying the revenue; it’ll be Deion Sanders while he’s still at Colorado

​@@GoatedAtNFS- Not a dumpster fire I don't think, but a sort of AAA farm club league.

LOL, UNC and Clemson are definitely SEC bound if and when they leave the ACC. Georgia Tech burned every possible bridge when they left the SEC. There’s no take backs for them. Louisville can either stay in the ACC or go Big12. They’ll not get into the SEC.

South Carolina isn’t allowing that

Florida won't allow it either.

@@bradleybowles7979 what other don't want Clemson???

@@randyhunt4535 all original SEC members except Vandy would vote against that. can’t just have anyone join the conference let alone state rivals

Right I'm Oklahoma sooner to SEC just asking that's all