Cleopatra - A Drunken Bet - Part 1 - Extra History
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ΠΠ΅Π½Ρ ΡΠΎΠΌΡπ Cleopatra: A Drunken Bet - Cleopatra VII Philopator. One of the most famous women of all history with one of the most dramatic stories. We've all heard how she gained the affections of two of the most powerful men of Rome, and committed suicide through snake bite. And while that story is very dramatic, it doesn't really capture the full brilliance of Cleopatra. More than just a romantic figure, Cleopatra was cunning, charismatic, and ruthless. And to understand how she developed into such a fierce politician, we gotta talk about her family, the Ptolemys. Talk about a nest of vipers.
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@extrahistory 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
A previous version of this episode contained a section that caused confusion about the historical material. In light of this, we have decided to re-upload an updated version with the section cut. We'll discuss the reasons for this decision in Lies, but we felt it was appropriate in this instance. Thank you for bringing it to our attention and we'll strive to do better in the future.
@oscar-rdz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hi ok
@seth5265 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
gobble me swallow me
@satanswife2546 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh yeah I was wondering that
@abthedragon4921 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh, now I get it
@maeam 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ohh I watched the first one too lmao
@Tyler-sy7jo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Poor Aspen. He's just excited for his role.
@silmarian 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
FREE ASPEN!
@DCdabest 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
He needs to learn his stage cues though
@jeffgalus8454 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Aspen got KO for his troubles
@ryanjapan3113 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nouran Ahmed Im number 250.
@jamesmccabe5569 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Execute order 66bc
@rq2012 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
4:43. Missed opportunity. Shoulda named the book βMummies for dummiesβ
@mattmarino4033 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
R Q my god your right
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I thought the book below that was βCato Eyesβ as in Cato the Elder or Younger. Not sure why that would relate to Egypt
@StrangeTerror 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Very good call sir.
@queenkaterose 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
XD
@anairconditionermother7537 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is too good lol
@Xiuhcoatl_ 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"Cleopatra dunked on them all" Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus After Dunking so hard on Cleopatra she literally killed herself: Am I a joke to you?
@manticore2804 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
He dunked on her with an army. She dunked on him with out
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@manticore2804 I feel like a army is far better than not having one
@sweatygarbage6969 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I would much rather be dunked on by someone without an army than someone with an army
@CollinMcLean 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra VII of the ptolemaic dynasty who dunked on Octavius by killing herself so she couldn't be displayed as a victory trophy by him:Yes you very much are
@cokelover-nb1qz 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@CollinMcLean I mean getting absolutely destroyed in a war and then not getting paraded doesn't sound like a win to me.
@freakymoejoe2 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Despite your emphasis on the Ptolomies willingness to absorb egyptian culture, I think it's important to note that in the 100+ years they ruled egypt, Cleopatra was the first ptolomy to actually bother learning egyptian
@jcfuntime104 9 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Actually they all somewhat learned Egyptian. Cleopatra was the only one to learn it fluently.
@Mereel401 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Alexander "died without an heir" should really be 'without an viable adult heir' sinve both his half brother Phillip III and his infant son Alexander IV did exist. Albeit that Phillip suffered some sort of cognitive problems since birth and Alexander was born after his father's death. I mean he even almost became King before Cassander had him poisoned.
@Zveebo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Mereel401 Extra History *really* needs to do a proper series on Alexander the Great (and maybe a separate one on the aftermath of his death) - his story is full of interesting stuff and it had such a huge impact on a big chuck of both West and East.
@Ake-TL 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Zveebo yeah, diadochi war can get pretty confusing
@hertzyscowicz7066 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fun fact: Plutarch actually described Cleopatra as rather plain looking, but with a great deal of charm. The idea of her being a famous beauty was either to flatter Caesar for his latest catch and/or to make Mark Anthony look like a guy befuddled by a pretty face.
@murder7415 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
History is just game of thrones but free.
@vogonp4287 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And we are a part of it.
@johnrockwell5834 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Game of Throne takes inspiration from History.
@FeyTheBin 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's like saying WWII is free-to-play COD.
@hang_kentang6709 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@FeyTheBin a COD experience to die for. literally sometimes.
@bificommander 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And like GoT, the most recent season is poorly written. I mean, cmon, the writers Cleary didn't give a crap about logic and believability anymore, they only cared about making who ended up on the White Throne a surprise twist.
@declanellery8500 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Totally up for Cleopatra story, she did so much, and is known for only a few of her achievements. Little iffy on the statement that she one upped Octavian, he was the eventual winner of the Roman civil wars that she was involved in after all.
@lukedufaur5368 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah Cleopatra definitely backed the wrong horse on that one.
@thirteen3 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well, she denied Octavian the chance to have her killed at the end of his triumph. like what happened with Vercingetorix.
@TheBrickMasterB 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@thirteen3 The Gauls just couldn't get a break after Carthage died.
@declanellery8500 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@thirteen3 yes, after he'd beaten her and Mark Antony. That was more like a final middle finger before defeat than one upping someone
@Doublemonk0506 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I mean who do people regonize, Cleopatra or Octavian
@belzibubtom9546 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I like to think Octavian, just as he was about to turn Egypt into his personal property, had a laugh at the idea that someone two thousand years later would describe such a thing as cleopatra dunking on him.
@void_wyrm 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I guess she gave him a small middle finger by killing herself and not being a part of his Triumph, and avoided humiliation? But what is that compared to all of Mare Nostrum? What is that compared to the Jewel that is Egypt? What is that to an Emperor of all Rome?
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I will love the ending of this.... Ave Octavian
@peterongan9655 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
A V E * A V G V S T V S
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah that ones weird, Octavian beat Cleopatra, and from what I know she never dunked on Julius Caesar. Or Antony
@couchpotatoe91 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 I agree. I lean towards the left, but I hate how extracredits seems to more and more shape history to their convenience to seem "woke", in this case by selling the story of the flawless, perfect ruler that Cleopatra (despite her genius) certainly wasn't.
@abcdef27669 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Please, Make the Viper a recurrent character. Zoey needs another animal friend.
@diarradunlap9337 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes! "Aspen" show show up every time they call a person a viper.
@TheBrickMasterB 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They had a dog made of water show up during the Majapahit series to chase Zoey about.
@mattmarino4033 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
abcdef27669 itβs gonna be the snake that bites cleopatra at her death
@diarradunlap9337 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes, I figured that out already. However, I would like to see "Aspen" as a recurring character. :)
@vaughnjohnson8767 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes. We need more!
@jasonblalock4429 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If anyone wants a somewhat longer telling of just how messed up the Ptolemies were, Blue on Overly Sarcastic Productions has a hysterical video where he basically loses his shit trying to describe their family tree, and how it came to be so... intertwined.
@F22onblockland 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When your family tree becomes a family circle
@jasonblalock4429 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@F22onblockland Yep. Cleopatra is probably one of the only major figures in history to win the incest lottery. She somehow got all of her family's good traits, and none of the bad ones.
@KasumiRINA 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jasonblalock4429 wasn't one of her grandmas a Seleucid?
@kellysunserenity4068 5 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ah yes, it's on their channel's Podcast playlist. I love it And I think he has a classmate of his also in on the talk. It's hilarious and informative.
@AdhvaithThurvas 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So the Ptolemies were a family that partook in incest and murdered each other a lot? I'll just put this here: Crusader Kings 3
@draco84oz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for DLC or Mods to do a 50BC start
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@draco84oz *bruh.*
@Azaghal1988 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@draco84oz there's already one for the bronze-age but nothing for the roman times unfortunately
@GaldirEonai 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You can pretty easily build that with the faith system. Divine Marriage and kinslaying always legal, fun times :D.
@Sorcerers_Apprentice 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They must have cheated on and cuckolded each other a lot too, how else would they managed to survive so many generations of parent-child and full-sibling incest?
@Arutima 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Octavian dunked so hard on her that he took Egypt as his own Imperial Domain, making him the richest man in history.
@bladestorm337 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"She got a pretty nose" -Panoramix
@Blandina11 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
ππ€£
@barbaragagner7053 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well, now the English version of 'Arsenic Cake' is stuck in my head.
@Blandina11 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@barbaragagner7053 "Le GΓ’teau Γ l'arsenic" yeah, that was awesome ππ
@rrtkddigimon0 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ah, I see you too are a man of culture...
@reyonXIII 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Be honest. You'd also cut the cake into "3 slices" like that too, huh?
@thesittingacheroraptor7565 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
3:08 why is the horse having a midlife crisis
@peroz1000 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If that's Bucephalus (Alexander's favorite horse) , he actually died of exhaustion. Maybe that's got something to do with it.
@kevinnorwood8782 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@peroz1000 Wait. He died of EXHAUSTION? I thought Bucephalus was KILLED during the Battle Of Hydaspes River?
@peroz1000 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@kevinnorwood8782 Some sources say that. Others blame old age and/or exhaustion. www.wikiwand.com/en/Bucephalus
@kokuinomusume 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why does it have its eyes in front of its face, really
@comandante_dd210 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's an ancestor of Bojack Horseman
@alienworm1999 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"How about we start with a drunken wager" I feel a strange disturbance in the viewership, as if a million DnD players all groaned at once and were suddenly silent
@raymondveritas5255 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I like how passionate Extra Credits is with reposting content after at first posting it and realising it was wrong after a few hours. Even if it is the middle of the night or day
@The_13th_Hussar 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
For those wondering 5:34, originally they accused the Ptolemaic dynasty of "cultural appropriation".
@Imperiused 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh, yeah I thought that statement was rather flippant. Its much more a case of cultural capture (or whatever you want to call it), where foreign rulers adopt the local traditions.
@anamarvelo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I thought that was just a joke. anyone with a brain, could tell that, chaing your culture, to match the place you now live, is assmilation
@Rikmach 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@anamarvelo That's the problem- if you tell a joke that's not really funny, people think you're serious and get confused.
@void_wyrm 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Rikmach But the thing is, it certainly wasn't a joke, the stereotypical Egyptian dance thing sure, but i'm sure that the statement wasn't. And if it was, that was a rather stupid and weird joke to place in there
@89Dienekes 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Imperiused It's also a bit overstated because they really didn't. The whole "Cleopatra was the first to learn to speak Egyptian" should have tipped everyone off on that. The Macedonians had a largely Greek styled court with Greek speaking advisors with Greek fashions. That then dressed up in Egyptian garb and performed the Egyptian religious ceremonies when it became appropriate for them to do so.
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The Pearl cocktail was the edible gold of their time.
@giorgikvernadze3766 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I fail to see how she dunked on octavian.
@darkseidshrike6165 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Laughs in Latin
@cseijifja 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
she's a powerfull woman you see! , she must dunk on mighty western men so we apreciate her! . Jjesus, they aint triying to hide the wokeness.
@tellulapopo9078 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Stares
@connorgolden4 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wokeness. Thatβs how.
@TheKersey475 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's less of Cleopatra "Dunking" on Octavian and more of Cleopatra managing to make one last throw just as the clock ran out and scoring the basket... Even though Octavian was already far ahead in points anyway.
@EnoshII 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
imagine thinking Cleopatra "dunked" on Augustus
@gloriahawkins895 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So they removed the cultural appropriation part. Good riddance.
@stonemorris5356 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
5:30 The first video said something about βa tradition of westerners partaking in cultural appropriationβ at this part but itβs gone now.
@ivydivine8722 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
yup they edited it out
@LegoCookieDoggie 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
come on that line was mood though
@ArmandoMPR 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Bullying works, kids. Never forget this π
@Rikmach 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@ArmandoMPR Well, less bullying and more pointing out that using modern terminology in an inappropriate historical context is misleading, but view it however you like.
@ShinigamiInuyasha777 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well, Egypt influence the greeks and macedonians more than the other way around....
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
>"Cleopatra dunked on Caesar, Antony and Octavian" > *I wonder which of those four was the last to rule Egypt*
@nuralibolataev4474 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I liked the video but personally, I wouldn't say that she "dunked" on Ceasar because from my understanding they "dunked" together. Antony however, she definitely dunked on by making him one of history's greatest simps. But Agustus defiantly dunked on her by you know wining the war killing her children and officially conquering her home, but she did go out like a boss.
@admiralyi8673 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well Agustus didnβt kill all her children just Ceasarion, her twins Cleopatra VIII Selene and Alexander Helios were kept alive and lived as his neice and nephew. Though at some point Alexander fell off the face of the earth because not much is known about him past his and his sisterβs adoption.
@bkjeong4302 9 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra actually brokered a deal with Octavian to have her children spared: he did kill Caesarion for obvious reasons but he kept his end of the deal with her other children.
@soham6649 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They doing my boy Aspen wrong by sidelining him. #sneks
@bluecup1129 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Extra History: βhow do we start this series and episode?β Me: β *THE SNAKES BIRTH* β
@justanormalguy6302 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Itβs like starting the story of the assassination of Julius Caesar with the birth of the smith who made Brutusβs dagger
@sammysocks6801 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That would have been a great start
@kakahass8845 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hey i saw this on the original version.
@ianmoone2488 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lol I just finished watching the earlier version.
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleber Marques Read pinned comment
@stelrax6519 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Me too
@SlyBluepaw 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@ALSO-RAN ! That's good... as I said in my comment before it was removed for the re-upload: "I don't know about 'appropriation' as he wasn't taking it away from them as that what the word means (or should mean...), but more trying too hard to fit in a place he doesn't really belong with for power." I'm glad they took that out as it makes more sense now.
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@stelrax6519 cant ur three hours late
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lol
@abthedragon4921 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Still surprised they didn't make a "heck" joke.
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@Aidan Hoffman And a beach ball when things get REALLY dark.
@j.chiari4222 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleo didn't dunk on Octavian. He was too Skoda-ish for her expensive taste
@disputedname 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Octavian dunked on Cleopatra so hard she committed suicide
@charlesramirez587 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
yeah I wonder why they said she dunked on him he outright destroyed her entire plot to rule the empire.
@connorgolden4 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@charlesramirez587 wokeness
@jeremy1860 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
A remarkable a woman as Cleopatra was, I'm always upset whenever I think about her legacy. She was undoubtedly one of the most brilliant people of her era, yet when people hear her name today they'll likely only consider her a side-character in the stories of Romans like Julius or Mark. She deserved more appreciation than that π
@sirrhynus4280 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Damn, even though she's dead for over 2000 years, she still managed to steal my heart and countless others hearts.
@Coramelimane 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra was greek by blood, in fact she was so fair skinned she could pass as an actual greek citizen.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thereβs a really good video by Lady of the Library that discusses Cleopatraβs family lineage and how, while mostly being Greek, there are a few notable gaps and uncertain parentages where itβs possible that non greek blood could slip in.
@Szydencer 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Your naming the snake "Aspen" got me slithering on the floor laughing.
@deirdregibbons5609 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What a great start to a new history series! Ali's artwork and puns are great, as usual. The character of Aspen (and his name) is a clever addition. Things I really liked: the hieroglyphics with people and critters in the Extra History drawing style (especially the hieroglyphics that show Matthew, Zoey, Ali and her child) the book titles, "Matricide," Aspen's cameos, Game of Egyptian thrones and Zoey in a cute pharonic head dress. Also like how you portrayed Cleopatra - it seems like you based her look on the images of her from coins from the period. I look forward to the next segment.
@Flyingclam 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Glad yall fix your mistake of nonsensically accusing the ptolemy of cultural appropriation
@epl5097 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Even though I really enjoyed the episode I thought that some times it confused which facts applied to general history of Ptolemaic Egypt with those only relevant to the years that Cleopatra was alive. For instance it mentions that Ptolemaic Egypt was not famous for its military might, which is true during the years before Cleopatra's birth, but is inaccurate for most of the existence of the Ptolemaic dynasty. Ptolemaic Egypt between 323-198 BCE processed one of the most powerful militaries in the ancient world. While Rome was fighting Carthage during the Punic Wars, Egypt was fighting an even larger conflict, the Syrian Wars, against its great rival the Seleucid Empire. It was only after the great Seleucid victory at the Battle of Panium, during the Fifth Syrian War, that Ptolemaic military power completely collapsed (with only brief military revivals after this date). It is still a great episode but it just needed a bit more care to clearly define when it is talking about general Ptolemaic history and when its discussing Cleopatra's story. As a side note can I just mention how sad it is that the Syrian Wars, one of the largest and most heart breaking conflicts in the ancient world, is largely completely forgotten.
@paigehall4084 11 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Way better than the new documentary β€π€£
@NanoElite666 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Heh, "vanilla homicide."
@artman7780 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
6:28 They murdered poor mattresses. Thatβs totally unacceptable! π±π‘π
@RetrousseRaptor 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Really arguing she outwitted Augustus? The writers know how her life and kingdom ended right?
@NoBody-lj5xh 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
She outwitted him one time, they never said she was so much smarter than him or anything.
@NoBody-lj5xh 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Jim58223 Jesus fuck, all they did was say she tricked the man one time, fuck off.
@101Mant 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Jim58223 where as you don't sound biased at all.
@Talbaz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Didn't Alexander have a son and heir, but he was basically igroned.
@Blandina11 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
A very quick search says: "β¦Alexander's posthumous son by Roxana, Alexander IV, as kings, sharing out the satrapies among themselves, after much bargaining. The empire could hardly survive Alexander's death as a unit. Both kings were murdered, Arrhidaeus in 317 and Alexander in 310/309."
@Luthies 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra dunked on Octavian? Did someone timetravel to change history while I wasn't looking?
@vanessathomas7437 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The Asp was NOT happy! Love a sense of humor inserted in a story...
@LangThoughts 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Sweet Home Ptolemaic Egypt, where the skies are so blue......
@pedacitodemadre 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When I read Cleopatra's biography I was so surprised! Thank you for this series.
@patartheconsumerofpizzarol806 11 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That moment when the EH team makes a better documentary about Cleopatra than Netflixs.
@lunerishauntingbeowulf 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
1) Can we get the Aspen as a reoccurring character? Ashton the Aspen maybe? 2) Iβve been waiting for the Cleopatra episode for years! Sheβs the reason I got into history. I learned about her and got obsessed with ancient Egypt in kindergarten. Because of that Iβm now twenty one years old and learn about history for fun XD
@MrTilldaddy 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Looks like they took out the "Cultural Appropriation" comment. Good move Extra History!
@Zveebo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
ALSO-RAN ! Yeah, the way the Ptolomies took on a fair bit of the trappings of Egypt was hardly unique in the ancient world (or even in Egypt itself). The comment didnβt make much sense.
@asgrahim9164 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah it seemed kind of silly how they alluded to the Vikings being good for assimilating into the local fellow white Slavic culture, but that the Greeks were nasty and bad cultural appropriators for trying to assimilate into a non-white culture.
@ericschwartz1669 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
She.... doesnβt *look* pre-Ottoman Greek
@Etom. Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If being forced to kill yourself and having your family legacy turned into the personal property of the Roman Emperor than by all means Cleopatra dunked on Octavian.
@carlosalbertofernandezvele7574 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
7:42 I didn't knew Cleopatra could speak Quechua :')
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 7 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This channel truly has a series on everything. I'm expecting this once again to turn my understanding on it's head, though autocorrect said underwear
@nicorozner7417 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"Mummification for dummies" "Cat Eyes" "So You're a God Now" The 3 basics of ruling Egypt.
@adhamgoo175 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I loved this video! I wish there was a series about the aztecs or the conquest of Alexander the great!
@wolffpup245 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I might be high right now. Buuuuut hear me out. Imagine a D&D party with Cleopatra, Julie D'Aubigny, Ibn Battuta, and Walpole. The sheer chaos can only be imagined.
@Dr.Giangy 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That's the most beautiful idea for a DnD party I've ever heard
@peytonreed937 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Donβt forget bismark
@joshcain1032 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ibn Battuta would be complaining under his breath about how the orcs in the dungeon aren't comforming to Islamic hygeine laws, D'Aubigny would likely get carried away and challenge someone to an actual duel, whilst Cleopatra would be busy plotting to usurp the DM, unaware that Walpole has been pulling everyone's strings from the very beginning.
@KasumiRINA 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fate Grand Order currently has a re-run of a Halloween event where Cleo teams up with Liz Bathory, Wu Zetian (only Chinese woman ruler) and Amazoness com CEO (Penthesilea, not Bezos) who delivers items to NEET princess Japanese yokai spirit in Csejte Pyramid Himeji Castle. There's also a bunch of robot Elizabeths. With rocket arms. And a biker. Your party also can be a thing.)))
@ShunLovesTenTen Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra: Time for a game of disappearing Ptolemies.
@nikolozgilles 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
for those who are curious the cut happens at the part around 5:30, something about cultural appropriation
@Kurtizss 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleo: *is birthed at 69* Everyknownbody: *Inhales* Nice
@justanormalguy6302 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice
@TannerRawlings 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice
@COCO-tm3gp 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice
@lurkingPabs 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice
@Another_Caesar 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice
@shaider1982 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I watched the video on Kings and Generals on the fighting over Alexander's corpse. Sound like an Age of Empire ii "get the relic (which is what the corpse is )" mission.
@pyrrhusofepirus8491 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I hope you do something on the Wars Of The Diadochi, between the successor states of the Macedonian Empire, with the top players being the Ptolemies, the Antigonid Dynasty in Macedonia and the Seleucids, born of Seleucus the Victor ruling over quite a large chunk of Alexanderβs old empire. Itβs such an underrepresented and epic point in history, filled with intrigue and battles between some of the greatest generals of the age. Also itβs strange that you say she dunked on Octavian, when Octavian was the one that defeated her and Antony, and didnβt fall for her seduction like Caesar and Marky Mark did, and was gonna bring her back to Rome to show her off as a trophy being executing her. Safe to say Cleopatra backed the wrong horse, geez Octavian was quite the ruthless young man. Infact I donβt think she ever dunked on Julius, Julius just loved her, not for her looks (Caesar had sex with any women that made eye contact with him), but for the fact she was just really interesting to talk to.
@dorkfish1275 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice to see that you wisened up. Still love the snake though.
@napoleoniv2646 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra probably had skin as light as the romans and definitely had skin as light as the Greeks because sheβs Greek.
@ericschwartz1669 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Exactly! Pre-Ottoman Empire Greek
@napoleoniv2646 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Eric Schwartz yes the people in the Mediterranean were lighter skinned before the Arab and Turkish conquest.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
cmon man, she had one very distant (possibly fair skinned) persian ancestor!
@SimonBuchanNz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
She must have tanned a lot.
@napoleoniv2646 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@SimonBuchanNz considering she was royalty imagine she avoided as much as possible.
@evershumor1302 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is a very specific, optimistic view of the ptolemy's.
@vanessawestbrook9846 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The mystery of Ahmed ziad turk continues
@lacanm1554 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
100% an oil prince from the middle east
@cometmoon4485 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@lacanm1554 His surname is literally "Turk". = "from the middle east" ...wut?
@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_ 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@cometmoon4485 Aren't there Turkmen in the Middle East? The Turkish army invaded Syria to assist Turkmen ethnic groups in fighting Assad.
@firstofthefallen6034 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When it comes to getting dunked on by Cleopatra, don't lump Octavian along with Caesar and Antony. But if running away from the Battle of Actium, losing her army and navy and eventually her kingdom, having to commit suicide to escape being taken prisoner and having one child murdered while three others paraded in a triumph in golden chains is considered being dunked on, then sure, Cleopatra dunked on Octavian.
@oldgringo2001 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
3:35 When Alexander died in 323 BCE he DID have a surviving son, born of Queen Roxana two months after Alexander died. This son "reigned" as Alexander IV of Macedon until 309 BCE when, as the regency under Cassander was about to end, came down with a sudden and mysterious case of death along with his maybe half-brother Heracles. Maybe this will be expanded on in the "Lies" segment of this series if there is one.
@aname6794 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Aaah I was waiting for this for so long!
@shawnheatherly 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Interesting enough to be worth a second watch.
@ernestjones8618 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Good video guys!
@nepdep1945 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra, being born in 69BC: It's like, I was born for this.
@6lack5ushi 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh man!!!!! Im so ready for this
@Myoldusernamewasgood 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank You Patrons. Great work carry on.
@darkithnamgedrf9495 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
5:21 is where I think they cut out the part about the Ptolemys being the first cultural appropriates if people are wondering.
@BearOldcastle 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes that what I recall.
@MusicGamesEverything 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra is so famous that people don't even call her Cleoparra VII, just Cleopatra.
@mrscechy8625 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"She dunked on Octavian" Who won at Actium again? And what happened after that particular battle?
@yumsyums3482 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Will you guys do an episode on King Sejong in the future? Really love your stuff!
@njord3582 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Danger Noodles
@jacob8565 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If its the advisers killing royalty surely that's regicide
@antonxuiz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love that the graphic puns are coming back!
@animationcity8178 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Possibly one of the best things to watch while playing AC Origins!
@Boltizar49 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
βShe was a Ptolemy through and through.β Gross.
@pyeitme508 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Reminds me of Cleopatra from Space.
@arandomguy1226 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hi extra credits I think I will enjoy your episodes on Cleopatra
@austinreed5805 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What a start!
@uria3679 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why is this story better than Game of Thrones?
@AnimeAngel88 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Because history is always more fascinating
@wimalliu389 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
GoT would have been more fascinating if it were real, but alas.
@knightshade1297 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
5:34 if you were wondering
@tomihodet354 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They cut the "cultural aprotiation" bit?
@theapostatejack8648 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@tomihodet354 yep
@markmarano913 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Standing ovation for the "matricide" visual pun!
@lukeburtenshaw3559 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love these videos but I would love to see one on the WW1 Gallipoli campaign
@xstrawarot 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Spoiler: Octavian dunked so hard on her she killed herself
@josemiguelfernandez8103 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lol so true
@alexstamp5482 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra: *attempts to seduce Octavian like Caesar and Mark Antony* Octavian: Virginity is cool. Remain pure π
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
*Actium Noises intensifies*
@bogdan3386 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I mean I find more amazing a kid who managed to outsmart the entire know world while also fighting against his poor health, that also had an amazing talent to pick the right men for a job and who didn't screwed up Caesar's legacy
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Bogdan IonuΘ Agrippa deserves half of the credit for Actium just like Labienus in Gaul
@turtleruski1915 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Iβm putting this here cause I donβt know any jokes yet
@mortified776 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The cobra's name Aspen obviously refers to the archiac name for them: 'asp', but I find it funny because aspen fibre is what a lot of reptile hobbyists use as bedding in enclosures.
@lazerbolt5277 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You guys are great
@leonidasmartinelli4227 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So, since Cleopatraβs Macedonian family tree looks like a ladder how does Ptolemy look Greek but Cleopatra is presented here as looking Egyptian?
@user-eh1tv9pj2d 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If you are talking about skin, it is probably because of tan.
@zerophoenix6758 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Poor Snake >:(
@Deas-Mhumhna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Aspen is so cuteβ€ Its a lovely name for a cobra. They get such a bad rap, they are really amazing and beautiful.
@ParasaurolophusEwan 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hi Matt and Zoey! I like your videos!
@trilumn8345 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
An Egyptian Asp, named Aspen. I see what you did there.
@wilsonsilva2918 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
2:22 she died 2000 years ago why yall still simpin for her
@MatthewSmith001 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love the little underlying sex jokes you wove into this informative video. I adore your channel! Keep teaching!
@khadirahassan7634 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Cleopatra was the total Badass
@Eclipse-mf6hc 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
0:15 I have a bad feeling about this...
@Zamtrios245 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What could you do in in a drunken wager
@Eclipse-mf6hc 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@Zamtrios 7256 what couldnβt I do?
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