Cooking With A Double Wall Titanium Mug | Will It Explode?!

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Backcountry Exposure

Backcountry Exposure

7 років тому

I have read, heard and had a general understanding that you are not supposed to cook with double wall mugs because they have a chance of blowing up. Well I decided I would give the idea a try and see if the myth is true or not. Ya know, full on scientific experiment to see if I can hurt myself with an exploding mug. Check out the video to see what actually happens and what my experience in doing the test results in.
The long story short here though is that you should not cook with a double wall mug.
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@shootermcmillan
@shootermcmillan 7 років тому
Well.....you managed to prove how effective at insulating a double wall mug is. It should be obvious that something intended for the opposite of cooking would not work out so well. Thankfully it was well made and did not explode.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
shootermcmillan yeah I feel like the results aren't mind blowing by any means, but having never really seen real evidence of what happens, it was worth the time to see. Thanks for watching!
@brianwest2775
@brianwest2775 Рік тому
If there's a vacuum between the walls, then there's nothing to explode. If the metal was heated enough to lose it's strength, then it would collapse inwards like you see in the experiments of heating a metal jug or barrel and then rapidly cooling it. If there's air in the gap, then the air will heat and expand but the air pressure is probably small compared to the strength of the cup. It's possible that the bottom curved down because the air expanded and pushed out the weak bottom but I suspect that it's simply the metal expanding as it get very hot, so it has to bow up or down and gravity dictates down, plus already curved downwards at the edges.
@greenspiraldragon
@greenspiraldragon Місяць тому
It heated enough to bulge so something could happen. If there was a small amount of moisture inside the double wall it could actually explode.
@justsayin899
@justsayin899 7 років тому
I probably wouldn't of done that on an above the cannister stove and a timber veranda but I'm glad that you did! Very cool experiment. Thanks.
@Chungustav
@Chungustav 6 років тому
Thanks for the visual demo! Most heat transfer occurs through the neck and opening of the flask, where there is no vacuum, so a different shape such as a bottle would react differently. Not surprised it took long for the water to boil as by definition: A vacuum flask (also known as a Dewar flask, Dewar bottle or thermos) is an insulating storage vessel that greatly lengthens the time over which its contents remain hotter or cooler than the flask's surroundings.
@brianwest2775
@brianwest2775 Рік тому
Probably not. Heat transfers by three possible modes: Conduction, Convection and Radiation. Double-wall cuts out the direct conduction. If there's a vacuum, it cuts out convection but it doesn't block radiation. I bet that the heat transfer from radiation far outweighs the heat transfer via conduction at the lip because heat transfer is directly proportional to the area. The lip has a very small cross-section whereas the rest of the cup has a much much larger area and the bottom of the cup is essentially at the temperature of the flame, so it's radiating a significant amount of heat. I don't think that you could maintain boiling with the heat transfer through the lip.
@northcountryadventures7619
@northcountryadventures7619 7 років тому
cool experiment. I was recently looking at different cups/mugs and was wondering if you could or should cook with the ones with double walls. I didn't think you should and I believe that your test proved it's not the best idea. Thanks for sharing
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
North Country Adventures thanks for the watch!
@deniznarin
@deniznarin 2 роки тому
Like the way you are thinking, people don't think differently,i was looking for this because i want a minimalist setup, thank you very much!
@RESTLESSOUTDOORS
@RESTLESSOUTDOORS 7 років тому
6 minutes to boil... wow! Amazing how well the double walled is insulated! Sucks about the warping but all in the name of science! Great video!
@marshalraylangivens4996
@marshalraylangivens4996 6 років тому
When I seen the bottom swelling out, I thought you was fixin to get a face full of titanium fragments. Glad it didn't blow on you.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 6 років тому
ha ha. Yeah this could have gone wrong real fast. But worth the experiment.
@gordonmurdoch3811
@gordonmurdoch3811 5 років тому
Why would you want to try and boil water in a cup that is designed to insulate against heat transfer? Can we expect a future video on fire lighting with a fire extinguisher?
@alex_8025
@alex_8025 3 роки тому
To see if it would explode...
@pozsmith8207
@pozsmith8207 3 роки тому
Shit happens. What if you're in the woods and all you have is your double walled water bottle.
@cascaderetriever7618
@cascaderetriever7618 5 місяців тому
Curiosity 😊
@guns4funcajanajustin
@guns4funcajanajustin 7 років тому
Very cool experiment Devin!
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
Thanks Justin! I wasn't sure what would happen, but cool either way.
@craftycamping5355
@craftycamping5355 6 років тому
Good video. Guess it does show that it's insulating properties work reasonably well.
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 7 років тому
I think the pressure pushed the bottom out. I would assume the rounded parts of the mug add strength and the flat spot is the weak point, but who knows lol. Im impressed by that stove. Thats definitely faster than the pocket rocket. Pretty cool👍
@philiporlando616
@philiporlando616 2 роки тому
Pro trick: you can watch movies on Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@cairomitchell3552
@cairomitchell3552 2 роки тому
@Philip Orlando definitely, I've been using Flixzone} for since december myself :)
@lennoxroger4151
@lennoxroger4151 2 роки тому
@Philip Orlando definitely, I've been using flixzone} for years myself =)
@victorethan1041
@victorethan1041 2 роки тому
@Philip Orlando definitely, have been using flixzone} for months myself :)
@MrDecennia
@MrDecennia 2 роки тому
Would there be a way to fix the bottom to get it flat again?
@MonkeySpecs301
@MonkeySpecs301 5 років тому
good to know, i just bought the toaks pot and snow peak mug, thanks!!
@randomaccount9440
@randomaccount9440 3 роки тому
So glad you made this...
@aspringjeo8075
@aspringjeo8075 4 роки тому
thanks testing! and i wanna buy a single wall mug to boiling water,so i want to know the mug can change the color?
@defel1
@defel1 7 років тому
Performance--failure--depends on the quality of construction, I suppose. And I would guess the distortion of the bottom had something to do with the expansion of the air between the walls. I wonder what the manufacturer says about the effects of cooking with their product.
@jeromebullard6123
@jeromebullard6123 3 роки тому
I have that mug and love it. Keeps my coffee hot for a long time. I thought it was a vacuum inside but apparently not since obviously there was enough gas/air inside to expand and push the bottom out.
@brianwest2775
@brianwest2775 Рік тому
I'm not sure. it's possible that the bottom curved down because the air expanded and pushed out the weak bottom but I suspect that it's simply the metal expanding as it get very hot, so it has to bow up or down and gravity dictates down, plus already curved downwards at the edges.
@danielholtz1066
@danielholtz1066 5 років тому
i was thinking the double wall would be good for baking muffins or biscuits now since its deformed. i like that someone tried this, thanks!
@bloodseedrums
@bloodseedrums 5 років тому
Daniel holtz hmm mm you just got me thinking, (I just started into trail baking) I wonder how well the mug would withstand repetitive cycling
@polsonowal07
@polsonowal07 7 місяців тому
Can I cook small pieces of chicken pieces in any camping titanium mug or pot ?
@TimWatsonOutdoors
@TimWatsonOutdoors 7 років тому
Lol, the best videos are the "what the heck would happen if...." 😂
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
Tim Watson bingo!
@TheWasatchGearReview
@TheWasatchGearReview 7 років тому
I've never seen that done before! Good video Dev!
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
The Wasatch Gear Review thanks dude!
@calmarcalmar
@calmarcalmar 6 років тому
You could make a very little hole into the outer-wall - or more. Then it would work at some point.. Still.. would take up long time until it heats up, as you figured out :)
@72daystar
@72daystar 4 роки тому
But does it blend?
@rootvalley2
@rootvalley2 2 роки тому
there should be a vacuum in between the two layers for insulation, heating it will not heat the inside.
@lucassutton5539
@lucassutton5539 7 років тому
Friends have had a Stanley stainless double wall mug on the fire one trip and it exploded but I think the titanium is such a strong metal that it could still hold the expanding pressure in the vacuum layer between walls (and a campfire is much hotter than a small stove and focused the heat underneath the mug not all around it). Your a brave man sir, lucky to not have been scalded by boiling water but I like the experiment, I would suggest some safety precautions for dangerous tests like these tho, but it is cool to see what happened to the titanium.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
lucas sutton don't worry I wasn't a total idiot. I had glasses on and kept my distance.
@MrDecennia
@MrDecennia 2 роки тому
Bought this exact mug with this effect. Any ideas on to how to fix or atleast have it stand flat?!
@fish9468
@fish9468 2 роки тому
Lmao you fucked it
@MrDecennia
@MrDecennia 2 роки тому
@@fish9468 I bought it for very cheap, so it’s not a big deal. Just want it to stand flat. Not using it for drinking.
@jarikinnunen1718
@jarikinnunen1718 2 роки тому
It have no gas in it to transfering heat. That is its big idea. If you go to Siperia and in -55 Cold and stand perfectly still, you not feel that cold because you have warm air next to skin but if you move yourself it gone.
@franetoblues
@franetoblues 4 роки тому
Thanks.
@kinpong720
@kinpong720 3 роки тому
Anything can be done to restore to the original flat base?
@MrDecennia
@MrDecennia 2 роки тому
Wondering this as well, anyone?
@jamesreck8476
@jamesreck8476 5 років тому
drill a pinhole into the outer layer before heating...
@adventureswithfrodo2721
@adventureswithfrodo2721 7 років тому
interesting​. do it a gain but get a infrared thermometer. did the inner cup bulged outward to match the outer cup. Need more investigation.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
Adventures with Frodo no, the only visible deformity is the bottom of the mug. Otherwise it's totally normal.
@jasonpetty3786
@jasonpetty3786 6 років тому
The inherent design of an insulated mug (insulated being the key word) makes it a poor choice to cook with. With that said you are lucky. Some of these insulated type stainless and titanium mugs are filled with a gas to reduce thermal exchange. And they can easily explode and cause injury. If you do something like this again I would recommend some safety precautions. Distance being the first and keeping a potential explosion away from your house. Just my 2 cents. Keep the videos coming.
@jasonpetty3786
@jasonpetty3786 6 років тому
steppenwolf you had that mug sitting on top of a pressurized can of gas (Canister stove). Not really knowing what to expect as far as possible failure of the mug at a a minimum it could have knocked you stove over while still on. FYI the swelling of the bottom of the mug was due to pressure increase inside the insulated mug. I believe the only thing that kept it from failing was the water inside the mug. If you really want to see the mug fail heat it up without weather in it.
@railwaystationmaster
@railwaystationmaster 2 роки тому
LOL
@TheWeekendHiker
@TheWeekendHiker 7 років тому
That is good to know. I've always used a single wall to boil with. Glad you weren't injured during the making of this video Devin. Take care. -ATB Adam 🐢
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
TheWeekendHiker thanks Adam!
@thevideostump46239
@thevideostump46239 7 років тому
interesting..
@stalwart263
@stalwart263 Рік тому
Why not get a Soto thermostack? Cool ok the outer mug, poor to the inner and then join them into a double walled.
@turboturd7954
@turboturd7954 4 роки тому
y didnt you keep heating it without water? would have been a better watch
@korling99
@korling99 7 років тому
you can use that mug to melt chocolate now or cheese or stick it in a campfire for some awesome cheese dip
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
korling99 I've always wanted Backcountry fondu
@pozsmith8207
@pozsmith8207 3 роки тому
At least you know it can be done in extremis.
@greenspiraldragon
@greenspiraldragon Місяць тому
If it bulged the bottom enough to round it maybe it could explode.
@evilpoomonkie
@evilpoomonkie 6 років тому
simple thermal dynamics
@ngmui430
@ngmui430 3 роки тому
which law? the zeroth?
@live4wild968
@live4wild968 7 років тому
I was surprised that it didn't split the cup with the trapped air in the walls.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 7 років тому
live4wild me too!
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561
@dougjohnsonbushcraftandbjj5561 6 років тому
Vacuum sealed means there is NO air.
@bloodseedrums
@bloodseedrums 5 років тому
Doug Johnson some people don't understand how insulated mugs work apparently
@vladimirjonas5516
@vladimirjonas5516 2 роки тому
I am rather interested in: If I fall down and squeeze my single wall Ti mug between me and the rock, will it survive? No videos about it.
@steventhomas6831
@steventhomas6831 Рік тому
I am ashamed to admit the amount of anxiety that this video gave me lol. Cool patina… too bad the mug is useless now because of the bottom.
@spicecrop
@spicecrop 4 роки тому
Nice experiment but an obvious total waste of fuel. I suppose it would work in a survival situation with a fire instead of fuel stove.
@camojoe83
@camojoe83 4 роки тому
You come across as someone who would need to see this demonstrated to understand it.
@BackcountryExposure
@BackcountryExposure 4 роки тому
Yeah I am kind of dumb.
@johnspaans1132
@johnspaans1132 7 місяців тому
Totaly pointless post, an insulated mug is definately not for cooking, so why would you?
@eachday9538
@eachday9538 3 роки тому
Basically what SpaceX is doing atm
@vl99100
@vl99100 3 роки тому
Такая же хуйня. Тоже грел на горелке и не знал, что нельзя. Тоже долго вскипала и дно выгнулось все. Дну пришел пиздец
@user-kl3fk5gz8c
@user-kl3fk5gz8c 5 років тому
Пиздец титановой термокружке..!
@DARisse-ji1yw
@DARisse-ji1yw 4 роки тому
I just spent way too much time watching stupid.
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