Creality Ender 3 V3 SE vs Ender 3 V3 KE vs CR10 SE
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▶️ Printers:
⚪️ Ender 3 V3 SE: shrsl.com/49gx0
⚪️ Ender 3 V3 KE: shrsl.com/4ag1c
⚪️ CR10 SE: shrsl.com/4b3sk
⚪️ Nebula Camera (Pad Not Yet Available): shrsl.com/4ce4f
▶️ Print Files:
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TIMESTAMPS:
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0:00 - Highlight Reel
0:43 - Intro
2:31 - Ender 3 V3 SE
2:53 - Ender 3 V3 KE
3:26 - CR10 SE
5:25 - CONS: Ender 3 V3 SE
8:04 - CONS: Ender 3 V3 KE
9:35 - CONS: CR10 SE
10:32 - PROS: CR10 SE
11:55 - PROS: Ender 3 V3 SE
14:14 - PROS: Ender 3 V3 KE
16:54 - Nebula Pad
17:49 - The Choices
18:23 - Print Results
19:29 - Print Results - Ender 3 V3 SE
19:48 - Print Results - Ender 3 V3 KE
20:25 - Print Results - CR10 SE
21:59 - KE Speeds
23:00 - Conclusion
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@calmlytech 4 місяці тому
Finally someone did a comparison. The KE and Cr 10 SE are currently within $10 of each other at Microcenter.
@marutiroma6295 3 місяці тому
Where is Microcenter? Thanks
@RecoveringPhoenix 2 місяці тому
@@marutiroma6295Electronics chain with locations mainly in the US Midwest.
@mgarza5157 5 місяців тому
The comparison I have been waiting for!
@BallisticTech 5 місяців тому
Very nice break down of the differences, pros and cons of these 3 printers.
@gaveintothedarkness 5 місяців тому
great comparative analysis of these printers!
@leedesigner1977 2 місяці тому
Dude, want to thank you for the past couple of reviews you have done, especially on the Ender SE, as off the back of this review, I shall be purchasing next week... after I have nailed down the cheapest price from a respected seller - of course. I like how you explain things, by the way. Cheers, Lee UK
@AndyRC 5 місяців тому
Excellent video as always Fedor. 👌
@andersgeorgsson 5 місяців тому
Great side by side comparison❣️
@Antrim3d 5 місяців тому
Nice job and great info! Thanks Fedor. 👍
@kaichidraws7787 4 місяці тому
this come in handy. after so many years of wanting a 3d printer , I'm finally about to jump to this hobby these are the one I saw at the shop [and a couple of other brands] so im looking at reviews to decide.
@kaichidraws7787 4 місяці тому
I saw CR10 SE on the shop at approx [360usd - converted]. I think Ill go with it. For good measure I look into the K1 series you mentioned but they only have the max version [which is out of my range and I don't think I need that, the regular one would been perfect] . Will sort out somethings and see if I can finally purchase one. Thank you for this video.
@JoseLopez-oz1xm 5 місяців тому
Good video Fedor, keep it going, thank you. 😁
@NathanBuildsRobots 5 місяців тому
I’m planning a similar (but very different) video. Will be interesting to see your conclusions about the lineup
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Nice! Looking forward to it.
@dandurocher993 4 місяці тому
That drunk benchy would totally go on my display shelf. Love it, lol.
@mikedeadshot1969 5 місяців тому
Love the WRX comments personally I'm a hybrid WRX wagon chassis STI conversion and power with cheaper insurance and better reliability. By the way thanks for the awesome videos on these I got my Ender 3 v3 KE last week for a first printer and I'm loving it. I give all credit for the purchase of that model to you and the great reviews. Thanks for starting another addiction....... Already ordered 15 rolls of filament and a dryer and more stuff than what I paid for the printer.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Welcome to the gang! Also that sounds like a pretty damn cool wagon.
@MobileDecay 4 місяці тому
I love that whacked-out Benchy! That was unintentionally awesome! I want an STL that will print a Benchy just like that! 🤣
@HansyPants184 4 місяці тому
Just got the SE about a month ago as my first printer. Super happy with the ease of use. I also cracked my PC bed after the first print so if you're looking into one you may as well factor a pei one into your purchase price and order at the same time. Was always interested yet intimidated by 3D printers since looking into them in the early days but the fact that I can essentially drag and drop has me hooked.
@JamStph 3 місяці тому
If you factor the PEI bed in, may as well go with the KE. It already comes with the PeI sheet. The bed sheet with the SE is good to practice on until you get it down to keep the bed from being hacked up though. I have both, and def recommend the SE to anyone starting out. I skipped the CR though and went straight to the K1Max.
@RC-limitless 5 місяців тому
Thank you I’ve been looking for a good 3d printer and I’m going for the ender 3 v3 se thank you for your help
@Tekniverk21 16 днів тому
very nice comparsion - thank you for sharing your experience 👍now I know I want the KE
@eduardo33 3 місяці тому
Very good video! Honest and quite informative. Congratulations!!
@John-td9cp 5 місяців тому
This came up on the front page of youtube!
@802Garage 5 місяців тому
Same. Been binging A1 reviews and then got this suggested.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I chose a bad day to launch this video. 😂
@802Garage 5 місяців тому
@@3DPrintSOS It might be working out in your favor! After all, anyone interested in sizing up competition or a cheaper alternative to the A1 oughta love this video. Tons of people watching A1 reviews so you'll probably get suggested like crazy vs a low traffic day.
@moohooman Місяць тому
This video was super helpful, I have been wanting to get my first 3D printer for a while, and at the moment on Amazon (at least here in Australia) the KE is currently on sale for $6 more then the SE ($366 AUD), which in our currency is an absolute steal.
@Sveto8 4 місяці тому
I got CR10SE, rooted the second day with help of your video. Had to do Z offset with paper because the first layer was way too high. Also, I slowed down to 150-100mm for good printing. Installed a third-party cam after rooting and the screen on the printer is not responding after that, if I want to do something, I must do it over fluid or mainsail. Other than that, it's ok.
@ryanbarnes3548 5 місяців тому
One other thing I had a pi 3b laying around so setup octoprint to get wifi and webcam for my V3 SE so if you have a Pi 3b or better or even a old laptop you can setup octoprint.
@Barkugou420 3 місяці тому
Just got the nebula kit for my SE and wow, definitely a nice combo
@mdeshon 5 місяців тому
Thanks for the video. Good comparison. Thank you. It’s helpful to see the differences in the line. I would,love to know where you got the nebula smart kit from.
@knobblyknob 5 місяців тому
I got my Nebula smart kit on AliExpress.....
@802Garage 5 місяців тому
Got me with the WRX STI reference. Subbed. The SE is seriously impressive for the price. The KE is also pretty quick for the money. CR10 has less place in the modern market for me. Especially with the A1 so close in price. I might even go with an SV06 Plus and a Klipper pad first. Great comparison!
@milospavlovic7520 3 місяці тому
Depends on the price and local availability. In my country v3 se was more expensive than usually, CR-10 SE was cheaper than usually and v3 ke hasn't yet arrived in December so I went with cr-10
@kreinova2747 2 місяці тому
Haha the same as in my case here in Malaysia. I get CR-10 SE cheaper at RM1357, KE at RM1400+-/1347 now at cytron while V3 SE the cheapest, can get at RM865. i am considering to buy one V3 SE too haha.
@milospavlovic7520 2 місяці тому
@@kreinova2747 Well, if you alredy have cr-10 se or v3 ke buying v3 se as a second or third printer is ok. You will likely print mostly pla and petg, which I guess it can print ok for up to 200 or 300mm/s, and most of the time all of them will be printing smaller details at lower speeds anyway. The only thing you're giving up on is network connectivity basically, so if you're not as lazy as me to controll printer manually go for it
@hed420 4 місяці тому
Good review, you did a great job pointing out all the differences between them and the pros and cons of each . What do you do with all the printers after you finish doing videos with them ? I've always wanted a 3d printer but I could never afford one . I only make $250 a month so even the cheapest printer is out of my budget .
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Thank you. Most of the time I keep them to use and cycle machines on my shelves if they are more or less relevant or useful. Otherwise, I typically donate them to friends, family, or schools/libraries. If the machines spent an extended time in my studio I put them up for grabs in the classifieds section of my Discord channel at a massive discount. (50% or more)
@knobblyknob 5 місяців тому
That must mean the K1 Max is the Lancer Evo. Nice work Fedor, really great breakdown.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I see what you did there
@knobblyknob 5 місяців тому
@@3DPrintSOS Oh I just meant it spends more time apart than it does together, like my K1...evo .....👀 Mitsureality
@802Garage 5 місяців тому
@@knobblyknobHahaha. I was thinking the K1 would be like an Audi. More bells and whistles, but more expensive. The Sovol SV06 and SV07 can be the Lancer and Evo. 😂
@Not-Einstein-61 4 дні тому
Wow, what a great comparison, the best I have found !!! Too bad I just bought on sale a Ender V3 Neo as my first 3D printer 3 days ago. What do you think about the Neo ?
@Ebonyqwe 5 місяців тому
Thanks for the video
@ryanbarnes3548 5 місяців тому
I got to say I don't mind the V3 SE print bed for regular pla besides it stopped sticking after about 1.5 kg but found Hair spray to be a awesome fix sticks perfect now and releases better as well just add a new coat every print and wash it after a few prints looks ugly after washing it but one coat of hair spray and it look almost new again did get PEI sheet but haven't tried it yet
@polar_baer 5 місяців тому
Can't wait for my V3 SE... Arrives in two days, wish me luck!
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Cant go wrong with the SE. You’ll love it. :)
@shivamvalecha21 4 місяці тому
Hey, it's me and I brought a CR10 SE recently and I also own an Ender 3 S1 pro, and in my opinion CR10 SE is like an upgraded version of Ender 3 S1 pro with a more capable firmware "Klipper", which gives CR10 SE the capability to go at 600mm/s lightning speed and still maintaining descent print quality, which is somehow mind blowing for a bed slinger, also with some hardware upgrades for running at high speeds. That sounds too good in paper but in reality, for achieving such high speeds without compromising with the print quality, we need more complex and capable algorithms (like which Klipper uses, input shaping, pressure advance, z-offset ,etc) which is totally fine but with more complexity comes more challenges which is a matter of concern especially for beginners, also in my experience with both of these printers I have suffered a lot with my CR10 SE (especially in terms of print quality) as compared to my Ender 3 S1 pro, which prints slowly and uses marlin but offers me much higher print quality, sometimes input shaping doesn't works correctly and my print shows ghosting or ringing which is quiet annoying, especially if you want that print for some decoration or simply if you want it as you sliced, and in that case your precious filament which costs many dollars get simply wasted, and yeah if you guessed it why, then you are right, "because of speed" which Klipper provides and not merlin, I know speed is also important but in my opinion not as important as print quality, and if you agree with this, please help us by contributing some more content related to this topic on, "how to gain better print quality even at high speeds", also thanks to it's open source nature that we can tune it's algorithms as per our needs. As Klipper is becoming mainstream and more and more people were getting into this, our effort towards it provides significant value to our community and helps our "makers of tomorrow", contributing towards better. #3DPrintSOS
@flatmotion1 2 місяці тому
lol the subi comparison was great. I currently own a modded ender 3 v2 with upgraded head, upgraded PSU and mobo cooling and custom firmware but I want something a bit more substantial. Looks to me like the CR-10 SE might be the right choice
@kreinova2747 2 місяці тому
I bought CR-10 SE at RM1357! $284. Cool Machine !
@608_diesel 3 місяці тому
40 minutes for the benchy on the v3 KE? I just got one last week, first print was benchy that was loaded onto the included thumb drive. Mine printed in about 15 minutes.
@arbjful 4 місяці тому
Which of these would be good for making functional parts in PETG, ASA and ABS?
@marce290280 4 місяці тому
I have the ender 3 s1, I think I will wait for an analysis of the final version (ender 3 v3) to decide to buy another
@appsbyaaron 3 місяці тому
I have the Ender 3 V3 SE and I plug it into a pc via USC-C on the side. I can print right from Cura. Thought I would mention that.
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
Nice!
@iiKlarity 4 місяці тому
I currently have just the Ender 3 Pro now, which has been giving me such a headache. I'm looking to get the KE or SE, and with Microcenter's current sale, there's a difference of about $135, with the SE being priced at $145, and the KE being priced at $279. The KE sounds like the better choice, with the small features that will just make it just easier to use, i.e. wireless printing, and all metal hot end, but I just can't stop considering the SE just because the price is so good. I was wondering if you had any input or thoughts on this, as I am still a novice printer, thanks!
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
If you already have an itch to mod things a bit further, then you’ll be happier with the KE
@dc-solaceozplayed4655 4 місяці тому
I have two ender 3 pros and got the ender 3 v3 ke and I love it. It's easy and fast. The only downside is having to use creality slicer.
@kristianprokupek6606 4 місяці тому
Great review. Finally CR-10 is the only one that makes sense :-D
@hexesandheroes 4 місяці тому
I like speed, but not at the expense of print quality. I think more care needs to be taken to make sure that if you slow the machine down it is capable of rendering better print quality results. Slowing down the K1 and Bamboo's doesn't result in better print quality, it actually makes it have vertical print artefacts.
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Yes. This is true. However, those are CoreXY machines designed from the ground up to sling a light toolhead. The motion controls are just vastly different. Cartesian like slow.
@LordHojo 4 місяці тому
I just purchased an Ender 3 v2 Neo. I'm completely new to this and after a few days of tinkering, printing and learning, I noticed the CR-10 SE at Microcenter for $289 and I'm definitely thinking about returning my printer to amazon and grabbing a CR-10 SE instead just for the speed.
@milospavlovic7520 3 місяці тому
I honestly hope that you did. I wouldn't think twice at that price point
@LordHojo 3 місяці тому
@@milospavlovic7520 I finally did about a week and a half ago. It's amazing compared to the v2 neo.
@chopstyx1 4 місяці тому
I have an Ender 3 V2 which I've been kinda struggling with bed adhesion. It ran fine for quite awhile, but just doesn't seem to want to stick anymore. I do need to get a new extruder for it, so I'm seriously considering getting a KE instead.
@mmafish1681 4 місяці тому
get a glass bed and a cheap hairspray ....works perfect for me
@chopstyx1 4 місяці тому
@@mmafish1681 it is a glass bed. It's just very temperamental
@panagosbfh123 15 днів тому
Nice video! About creality CR10 SE the noise is different between V3 KE ? I am about this two and i have this issue in my mind. Also what about printing speed KE have MAX 500mm/s AVG 300mm/s and CR10 se MAX 600mm/s but i do not read nowhere about averge. Could you explain the different ? Thank you!!
@3Skulls 4 місяці тому
Great video, though could you mention how they compare when it comes to printing noise? I have to print in the house, often at night, and I have 2 young kids I don't want to wake up with a jet engine blowing away in the next room. 😉
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Noise on all three machines isn’t that bad. However the Ender 3 V3 SE is noticeably quieter. that’s due to its slower print speed and thus, lower fan noise/speeds.
@XtremeRCPlay-xi5rc 4 місяці тому
My e3v3ke did the benchy did in pla in 17.32 mins I've had few problems with mine tho in the first week Had to buy new hotend as broke mine when replacing the nozzle Was a nightmare To fix As I'm first time user I'm just printing a remote holder that's taken 4hrs
@SiXiam 4 місяці тому
Yeah that's the problem with all 3D printers. The learning curve is pretty big. My beginner problem I had a few years ago was a bad motor. The problem was the motor didn't just fail. It was just not working as well as it should and getting hot. It took a year to realize it wasn't working properly. I was messing with tons of stuff thinking I had a problem in a different area.
@Alex-Arias 4 місяці тому
Which is better Ender 3S1, Ender 3 V3 SE ? I want to use PLA, TPEG AND TPU , i´m not sure.
@manuelb.8783 4 місяці тому
What do you think about the new A1? I consider to buy the K1, Bambu A1 or (after I watched your video) the CR10. What do you think? 🤔
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Oof that’s tough. I think the main question is do you want multi material? Yes, get the Bambu. No, time to think about it more. Because Bambu makes great machine but they are walled in and work best on the cloud. The CR10 SE is a klipper machine and built well. So you’d be able to make it “yours” if that’s your thing. I think the A1 is a great machine and will be amazing for most folks. But if you don’t need ams and you like opensource firmware, the cr10SE is going to be the winner.
@rogerisaksen 2 місяці тому
Hi just bought the Ender 3 V3 KE, and the first test print. The Benchy took only 16 min with factory settings on. Printed with original SD card in. Your test show over the double time? Strange. Are there an update in 2024 V3 KE make this double+ speed. Best regards RogerIsak.
@ginoantenucci6424 3 місяці тому
Does anyone know if you need to use the Creality slicer for the thumbnail on the ke or can you use stock cura maybe with a extension
@BenSuzi1980 3 місяці тому
Nice test, would be cool tho if u had shown the displays/small screens. I know they not that important but some ppl like that stuff =) greetings from germany
@marutiroma6295 3 місяці тому
Nice video, can you tell me the difference between the KE extruder and the CR10 SE extruder? Thank you
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
I believe they both use the Sprite extruder
@livetips2491 5 місяців тому
hello, are they compatible with newest mac os? i just have macbook
@navarros1311 4 місяці тому
Please drop a video on how to calibrate the ender v3 ke for rotational e steps i can’t find anything ! Thanks !
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Thats because until we have access to Klipper, Creality doesnt allow us to do any calibration. :/
@navarros1311 4 місяці тому
@@3DPrintSOS I bought a rasberry pi and a sonic pad I’m going to try to see if these will connect to change rotational e steps I just want it calibrated I get so much under/over extrusion I need to calibrate so much
@johnnyn2417 4 місяці тому
Thanks for the comparison. I just sold my Ender 3 Pro. In between getting an Ender 3 V3 KE or CR-10 SE now.
@mortegutt 4 місяці тому
I'm in the same boat as you, torn between which to get. Creality has teased the release of full klipper to the KE mid January, which is a big plus... Other than that the Cr10SE seems sturdier built, unsure about the cooling performance tho.
@johnnyn773 4 місяці тому
@@mortegutt I'm leaning more towards the CR-10 SE at the moment. Microcenter has it on sale rn for $289 which is a steal. I have seen other reviews saying the cooling is really good to the point the fans but a bit loud.
@redline3036 4 місяці тому
The one thing that annoys me about corexy is its a pain to load filament compared to cartesians style printers and I think that's why I prefer cartesians printer over the boxy corexy printers. Any of those enders take 5 secs to load but my k1 or xplus 3 or my vorons are such a tedious thing to load the filament.
@SPARTAN1990LIVE 4 місяці тому
my v3 se prints at 300mms and i use cura over wire .. but i have upgraded with 2 5015 fans
@SSiXaXiS 3 місяці тому
I just got an open box v3se for 130 bucks. I didn't need it but I wanted it. I have klipper machines even a voron, and I love the v3se. I dont have to mess with anything. It just works. It's been printing non stop for days
@fsigma-fp1oz 4 місяці тому
Can i upgrade my v3 se in a metal housing or structure?
@sik05civic 3 місяці тому
With the K1, it’s no longer a bed slinger right? So that’s a plus for the k1 too
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
Right. On the K series, the bed only moves up and down and the tool head moves in the X and Y coordinates. Makes for a very stable chassis.
@appsbyaaron Місяць тому
Does the Nebula Pad use Klipper?
@thejollyfrog640 4 місяці тому
Why are there 2 filament spool holders? Can only use one roll at a time.
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Styling I guess. I’m not too sure. Haha
@Scott-hh3gh 4 місяці тому
Mine turned into a paper weight. Got 5 prints out of it then it went kaput! Mechanically, it's operational but, it won't print any files, even the test cat and benchy. During a print job, the printer head will remain in one spot and what would be a 10-15 hrs. print job, the display indicates complete after a minute or two. Meanwhile, the AnyCubic Kobra Max I bought a couple weeks after this one, is running like a champ with no issues whatsoever. I'm going to pack up the SE and send it back to Amazon before my return window date closes at the end of January. Very disappointed with this machine and Creality support was no help at all. While waiting for an answer to what could be wrong, their response was that my service request requirements has been meant and is being closed out.
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Sounds like you have a bad connection to your X motor? Have you looked at the wiring? Lastly, can you move the machine In all directions manually via the screen? I bet this is something very basic and related to assembly/shipping.
@musicrupert 5 місяців тому
shy did uour ke bency take so long? the one that comes on it takes 15min
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I have a very early machine and I don’t have the stock usb. Either way, I tried to use the CR10 SE 14mm and you saw the result. :/ So I just sliced it based on the default slicer setting like anyone just starting out would.
@einsteind 3 місяці тому
Hi, which would be the better upgrade from the ENDER 3 S1 PRO A CR 10 SE OR THE K1C, with robustness in mind thanks
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
The K1C would be a legit upgrade in almost all ways. Where the CR10SE, although awesome, would just be a speed boost. ;)
@einsteind 3 місяці тому
Thanks for the update
@Ebonyqwe 5 місяців тому
I heard somewhere that linear rails don’t last as long on a 3d printer if you print with carbon fibre filaments. What do you think?
@firewoodwarrior4396 5 місяців тому
Doesn't make sense lol.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Hmm 🤔
@arbjful 4 місяці тому
Does the carbon fibre affect the linear rails? Linear rails are pretty solid, maybe the grease pickups debris…
@Ebonyqwe 4 місяці тому
Yeah, they said something like that. Just as the cf-filaments cause erosion of the nozzle they end up doing the same with linear rails
@4340leo 4 місяці тому
I just get a CR-10 SE for $250 on a sale. Now it's the patience on waiting...
@therealscarhomie 3 місяці тому
What gold filament is that? It looks really good.
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
It’s ancient NovaMaker Gold from about 3 years ago. Not sure if it’s still available somewhere.
@spike8298 3 місяці тому
What about Anycubic Kobra 2 Pro?
@Meerschaut87 3 місяці тому
I watched your review and thank you for making it. I’m new to 3D printing (i don’t have one at this time) but still after watching this video i can’t decide witch one to buy, the CR-10 or the 3 V3 KE. Can some people help me decide please. I would like to have one that’s hands-on so i can learn the parts and how it works. Thanks all
@rodrigocontrerasparedes1774 3 місяці тому
I am in the same situation, I don't have a printer yet and I want to buy my first one so I can start a business with PET recycling, I am from Latin America and it would help me a lot, on that side I think that the CR-10 SE comes from the factory with the option of PET without having to make modifications, I was between the KE and the SE and after hours I saw that the KE was a better option but then the CR-10 SE entered the equation and I don't know which one to buy
@Meerschaut87 3 місяці тому
@@rodrigocontrerasparedes1774 i have done some more research. i talked to friends who have years experience and asked them what they would buy if they would restart now as a beginner without the knowledge and they recommended me the 3 V3 KE. The CR-10 SE makes more noise than the 3 V3 KE and is only 100mm/s2 faster compared to the 3 V3 KE. Also here they say that the price difference is only 10$. I live in Belgium and compared the prices and here is a difference of +100€ and for my first printer i would take the most expansive one. Yesterday i ordered the 3 V3 KE and i hope i would be happy with it as a beginning printer.
@rodrigocontrerasparedes1774 3 місяці тому
The issue is that the CR-10 supports more types of materials and the volume is a little larger. That is my big obstacle that doesn't let me decide.
@rodrigocontrerasparedes1774 3 місяці тому
The issue of using PET filament without modifying the printer is important to me.
@grtych 5 місяців тому
I don't get why the CR10 SE is a different product line, it's basically a Ender 3 with more features than the KE. And like you said it's smaller than all older CR-10's. Another machine to add into the equation soon will be the "V3" which is basically a Core XZ K1 without an enclosure. And with Creality releasing an AMS in 2024 - I think the V3, and V3 KE will give the new Bambu A1+AMS a run for it's money assuming it will be compatible with these machines.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I asked. They told me the CR10 has always been a more prosumer-based product while the Ender line has been beginner-friendly based. So, the SE model of the CR10 is meant to fit in the prosumer category over the beginner one. Size aside, I agree with this. It’s quite different. Basically a K1 with cartesian motion. High-end components.
@grtych 5 місяців тому
I also wonder if the KE spit out that funny looking benchy since the CR-10SE has an input shaping sensor from the factory and on the KE it has to be purchased and added. I don't think it would change the results as significantly as they need to be though, lol @@3DPrintSOS
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
It could be, but that is done on machine and not in the gcode. So maybe the accels were too high or somethin. @@grtych
@milospavlovic7520 3 місяці тому
I would honestly call Cr-10 se something like Ender 3 s1 se, which makes much more sense because they basically upgraded the s1 pro
@dylanbarrett4698 3 місяці тому
has anyone had issues with connecting the CR 10 SE to octoprint?
@filipsvec5694 5 місяців тому
Hellooo , what slicer are you using? to be honest, I don't like Creality's slicer... the best is Prusaslicer, but there is no profile for V3 KE
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I think we will be on Creality Slicer until they root the KE and give us access to its wifi. There will be a 3rd party root firmware soon, which will unlock wifi for all slicers.
@PeteBoyd478 5 місяців тому
I've copied all of the Creality slicer settings to OrcaSlicer (my preferred slicer) and the KE works beautifully!
@jasongooden917 Місяць тому
I knew very little about 3D printers when I bought my Ender 3 V3 SE a month ago, but 2 days after I bought it, I bought a PEI sheet because of pure frustrations. I didn't even know it was a PEI sheet or anything, I thought a just destroyed the stock one by washing it with soap but the only thing was it original one sucks.
@JoseLopez-oz1xm 5 місяців тому
You mentioned the benchys inthe first two machines in hours.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Hahahah. Unusual right?
@oldman1944 5 місяців тому
There's a 17min benchy file in the KE that's shipping now.
@skypowergb3842 4 місяці тому
i cant decide there is good offer on cr10 se for 360euros usually its 480 even lowever than on official site , meanwhile v3 ke is 318 , i already have ender 3 but it suffered quite a bit of damage and its not worth fixing it up fully as its more affordable to simly buy new one with new features such as silent board , auto bed leveling . to me the most importatn stuff is accuracy and print quality since im doing functional 3d prints not just static stuff
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
cr10se over the KE. It’s nuch more printer.
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
CR10SE is my vote. It’s more robust and generally more printer!
@skypowergb3842 4 місяці тому
@@3DPrintSOS and hows the print quality compared to ender 3 in some videos it didnt look that great
@b3n5chn31d3r 24 дні тому
SO, I should buy the CR-10 SE for $280 at MicroCenter? :)
@Fuerwahrhalunke 3 місяці тому
Been using the Ender 3 pro for about 4 years now and still went with the Ender 3 V3 SE, simply because speed and quality of the printer don't matter to me. It's ease of use is still an upgrade. Probably the biggest factor truly is it's prize point. 200 bucks for such an easy going machine is a bargain.
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
Exactly. I think you hit the value of this machine perfectly. Easy, cheap, reliable, fast. Can only pick three.
@Fuerwahrhalunke 3 місяці тому
@@3DPrintSOS I always wondered why everyone thinks it's important to print fast. As long as it's not your job and you have a certain time in which you have to print X prints, it shouldn't matter how fast your printer is. What truly matters is ease of use and reliability (And repeatablity of reliable print quality). When those come at a bargain of a prize it should be an easy pick😃
@f1hotrod527 5 місяців тому
Do you think the plastic components on the Ender 3 V3's affect its performance? I am a mechanical engineer, and in my view if it performs the same, but costs less, its a win.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I don’t think it’ll have much of an effect at slow speeds. only if you’re pushing things. The CR10SE gives your that confidence and it’s plastic too. but just enough frame and just enough rigidity over the V3
@f1hotrod527 5 місяців тому
Actually, there is more engineering required, and tooling costs to go with the plastic components designed specifically for this product. Using standard open source parts like extrusion requires very little engineering and tooling costs. With the plastic components, you get back that cost and it becomes more cost efficient as you mass produce.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
I totally agree. Actually this CR is not only custom molded but also has custom metal bracing in the chassis. It’s pretty cool actually
@johng2490 2 місяці тому
I have the KE, nice machine but I had a hotend leak
@hamradiohack 2 місяці тому
Is the nebula pad rooted already or rootable
@3DPrintSOS 2 місяці тому
Yes, guilouz has a wiki on it
@stevenlsobel 4 місяці тому
Can I use Cura with the V3 KE?
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Yep, you just cant use the wifi feature…for now. ;)
@ljubomirsokolovic9354 3 місяці тому
So...in all that is said I heard very little important information...and that is about 25 minutes of mostly cosmetic and unimportant info. For instance, either is was missed or at least I missed it, but there is no mention of 300⁰C that KE is capable of reaching. That, and the fact that "just a little bit faster" than SE is about 2x faster or more.. Also, what is the 0.9 of a minute in 39.9? Since when is time in decimals? So much for an honest review...
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
What could possibly be dishonest about this review? lol. The spec lists are all online. This isn’t their official marketing materials, this is a personal review based on my experiences.
@ljubomirsokolovic9354 3 місяці тому
And this is exactly what I have been looking for a personal experience, real tests etc...Yet, for more than one reason, I get the feeling that this is exactly what this review is not... But it may just be me!
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
Sorry to disappoint. I evaluated three machines using default settings with the same prints. Have my honest opinions on them. Not sure what else i would have done differently and still have it be my video and not someone else’s. Thanks for the feedback though.
@dreadlysmellybum 4 місяці тому
I’m confused. My KE does a bench in 15 mins using standard pla..
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
My early preview model didn’t come with a preset model. so I used Creality Print Defaults. I mentioned it in the video. But it definitely couldn’t handle a benchy from the CR10
@MikeTkachuk 5 місяців тому
There is a benchy on KE USB drive which prints in 19 minutes, and the quality is OK, all parameters are in gcode comments.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
Ah nice. Since I had the preproduction model, I didnt have a USB available.
@mikedeadshot1969 5 місяців тому
Benchy on my kE usb printed in about 16 min without calibration with calibration about 19 min. Quality looked decent to me but first printer first print no experience with 3d printing.
@3DPrintSOS 5 місяців тому
@mikedeadshot1969 can one of you guys email me that file please? Fedor(at)3dprintsos(dot)com
@mikedeadshot1969 5 місяців тому
@@3DPrintSOS Sure no problem will send after work
@mikedeadshot1969 5 місяців тому
Emailed it to you hope it helps
@christopherismcaceas4868 5 днів тому
On KE's USB was 16 minute benchy from the factory
@christopherismcaceas4868 5 днів тому
Also after slicing (for me) was 30 minute benchy with default settings.
@vincentdenley4304 3 місяці тому
the CR10 SE is available for 289 pretax at my local Microcenter... I mean I have to right
@vincentdenley4304 3 місяці тому
KE for 259, not sure which I spring for
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
wow. Yeah that’s a no brainer for the SE. I’d do it.
@andyg308 19 днів тому
Excuse my English, excellent video, the one I was looking for, greetings from Uruguay 🇺🇾, I subscribe
@Rami-qm8li 4 місяці тому
I want to buy ender 3 v3 ke
@benrojas5444 3 місяці тому
If the CR-10 had a 300x300x300 it would easily destroy its competition
@El-Fartomatic 3 місяці тому
As an STi owner, the reference was 🤌
@ignaciorodriguezmelgarejo9526 3 місяці тому
2 slower printers i think is better than one fast one, if one slow machine goes down you still have the other to save the day.
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
Good point
@YokomoHoyo 3 місяці тому
Why would you want to put a camera on a 3D printer?
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
So you can start a print and monitor it remotely. Since these machines run Klipper, you’d be able to pause or spot the print remotely. Even if it’s from another room. I use this feature often.
@YokomoHoyo 3 місяці тому
@@3DPrintSOS forgive my ignorance but what is spot the print? Why would you want to pause?
@kirk595x 3 місяці тому
@yokomoHoyo I have a wifi security camera mounted on my printer so I can check on the prints, for safety in case of a fire or when the print is finished. My printer is plugged into a smart outlet and I can cut power to it if needed. Some of these Creality printers have cameras that can sense stringing and will pause the print, as well as real time control from a cell phone.
@jacksonprochnow7994 Місяць тому
my ender 3 ke can do a benchy in about 20 min
@JamesAtLarge 3 місяці тому
I strongly disagree on the Ender 3 V3 SE not being a fast printer. this printer is fast iv had it for a week and its hell alot faster then my voxelab s2. also you can add wifi to it if you buy the creality wifi box.
@3DPrintSOS 3 місяці тому
When comparing it to the Voxelab machine, sure, it’s faster. However, it can’t hang with the others in this test. It just doesn’t have the hardware. I guess “Fast” can be related to your experiences but this machine is not fast by today’s printers speeds. Which is ok, I still think this is my most recommended machine.
@destinal_in_reality 4 місяці тому
Did your discord just.. vanish?
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Hope not! 😂
@destinal_in_reality 4 місяці тому
@@3DPrintSOS It was temporary. that was a weird discord day
@rudydev4046 4 місяці тому
at 19:37 he said that benchy took 51 hours to print lol
@3DPrintSOS 4 місяці тому
Speedy
@andreamitchell4758 4 місяці тому
Why would anyone buy he CR-10 for 389 when the K1 was on sale foe for $350? Why would you get he v3 KE whe for a little more ou can get the K1 These rpices are so crazy, I got the v2 neo last BF for $240 and this year I got the V3 SE for $140 after sale and coupon I wish I waited and not bought the v2 neo , I can only imagine what the landscape will look like in another year and in 2 years
@milospavlovic7520 3 місяці тому
In my country CR-10 se was $150 cheaper than k1 on black friday, and $240 cheaper than regular price, so it can be very region dependant. Many cr-10 prices simply don't have sense, but then nobody buys them so the seller is forced to make a sale that then starts making sense
@gastonpares7266 Місяць тому
Imagine with a wider nozzle 😅
@GCEXTREMEMN 3 місяці тому
KE is open source now....
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