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My 2 cents - • Hero's most famous products viz Splendor, CD100, CD Deluxe are all based on Honda's most famous 'post war' creation, the Super Cub moped. Infact, Honda Super Cub is the most famous 2 wheeler in the world. Even Discovery channel declared it as the greatest 2 wheeler of all time. Even Honda Activa is based on Super Cub. • Ironically, the world famous Honda Super Cub moped failed only in one country, that is India. Honda Super Cub was launched in India in 1997 as 'Hero Honda Street', but it failed to garner sales. • Hero group gave NOC to Honda in 1998, for setting up their own subsidiary (HMSI). Hero had no choice at that time as they were completely dependent on Honda for technology and any disagreement with them would only ruin Hero's market position. •The lead time for new product development at Hero Honda was very long, ~ upto 4 years! Honda did this purposefully so that Hero would have very slow development. Also, Honda was reluctant to share modern & current technology with Hero. Hero always got old 70's and 80's engine designs from Honda. • CD100 was 100% Honda bike, and its Japanese chassis was weak for Indian conditions. Thus the Splendor was born. Splendors 'box section double cradle' chassis was developed by Hero, specifically for harsh Indian conditions. Hence why Splendor is so durable. • At last in 2010, before their split, Honda finally acknowledged Hero and agreed that Hero group is the reason why Honda gained such brand value in India. This was mentioned by Mr. Pawan Munjal in an interview. • As a token of gratitude, just before the split, Honda greenlit the development of 4 products for Hero. These 4 products were Maestro (Activa), Passion X Pro (Dream Yuga), Impulse (NXR150) & Ignitor (CBF Stunner). All 4 products were based on Honda's modern & current platforms.

Indian enterpreneurs who kept 'India' in mind before doing any big business deserves mad respect

During the 70 and 80 s I was in college. we had several motorcycles like Yezdi, Jawa, Rajdoot , and Royal Enfield bullet at that time, then Ind Suzuki, hero Honda and Yamaha and others came.

No one killed anybody Honda hand held Hero from cheap cycle making company into a WORLD's most reputed brand Don't abuse Honda w/o knowing their contribution India is huge market, huge co's will have their aspirations Even today Honda gives technology to Hero & helps in R&D, Honda sold some rights to Hero for a price Both are making profits and growing.

If at all Hero assumed that Honda would be wedded to them for life, they would be considered either naive or plain stupid. Except for Toyota who is with Kirloskar (late Vikram Kirloskar to be precise), I do not see any other Overseas Corporate continuing to be collaborating with their Indian partners. They would either buy out the Indian partner or simply severe the partnership. Toyota Kirloskar is a slightly different story because Kirloskar is not into automobile manufacture and Vikram Kirloskar is singularly responsible for Toyota's entry into India. I have heard the Japanese managers of TKM speak very reverently in respect to late Vikram Kirloskar.

Hero Electric will be lucky if they can survive in EV market. They use Chinese imported parts in Hero Eelectric. If somehow chinese 2 wheelers are allowed to enter India, Hero Electric will definitely be wiped out.

You missed few points, before even starting the Hero Honda bike, hero had mopeds. Hero Puch, was one of the early geared mopeds. Honda partnership came later. The second point, is Honda Activa, in fact it was continuing the success the original Kinetic Honda delivered in the scooter segment, it wasn’t something totally new!

Well, bitter truth is,hero doesn't provide same quality as before... Even TVS is better than hero nowadays... And Bajaj also improving...

It's just a business neither tit for tat nor back stabbing ...it helps both to grow and put a healthy competition

As well as it's was 2nd 4 stroke bike after enfield

Wow! such an interesting journey from bicycle to motor cycle

Since the split with Honda, hero lacked innovation, with the only exception being xpulse. Even the most sold models like Glamor and Splendor are now severely plagued by bs6 update. And the xtec badging is utter BS

I believe one of the reason for low growth is Hero failed to capitalize on 300+ CC bikes completely.. they were one of the first to launch a 225 cc bike with Karizma but post that nothing.. they only kept catering to the rural demand forgetting about the urbanization of rural completely

Well hero was sht company... i had both vehicle with hero Honda and hero... hero Honda engine is more refined and performing than hero

Hero electric has office in Gurgaon near that Airtel office on airport highway

Thing is I suspect that Honda might knew the engine issue before hand.And after all,Honda is known for engine quality,and there's nothing bad to keeping tied with them.

TVS will go top position in 2 wheeler sales in coming years.

Hero has 30% share in Ather. They will probably buy it out

2:08 No company was making motorcycles?? Dude, Jawa, RE, Honda Kinetic and various other bikes were already there in India in 1987.

Just because you have a tech advantage you can't expect your partner not to develop and be dependent on u always, we can't call it a back stabbing either from Honda coz business has to grow when there r opportunities.

Hero already is capable of developing good engines, and they have the resources. All they need now is a team of good designers. Their designs are so out of place, even the Xpulse could have been better if they had gone for a proper (wr155/ nxr or even an impulse type fuel tank and design overall. Retaining the same decade old cbz/Karizma type tank design will take hero down the hill. I have high hopes that hero will turn tables with the launch of Xpulse 400. Eagerly waiting

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Hero has definitely made its dent in the rural markets. Thanks to Honda for helping them build an economical model of Splendor called "Deluxe". Honda could not do the same after divorcing Hero with their brand "Dream Yuga or CB110" as Honda is still assumed as an urban brand by rural markets. Hero after splitting with Honda has lost all its great brands like CBZ, HUNK, KARIZMA and are now just managing sales with Splendor and Passion. Glamour till date remains like a transgender product between Hero and Honda.

Two questions: 1. I hoped for a coverage on Honda's overlap with Kinetic. The cross story of Kinetic Honda. 2. Is it the same story for Bajaj and Kawasaki?

Munjal will never NEVER share his true profits with other shareholders. Hence he siphons off a lions share.. And as of now he cudnt care less about the market perception of the stock price.. When his circumstances changes. So will his behaviour. That aside.. HERO impulse / xpulse Is a fabulous product for the price.. No one can compete at that price segment. And that product is selling. Like. Hot cakes..

My question: Why should they not split?... What has Hero MotoCorp done in over a decade?... just profiting off past glory (Splendour) ... none of the best bikes and scooters I see on the streets are made by hero Honda: Activa, Dio..... Bajaj: Pulsar, Dominar..... TVS: Apache RTR, Jupiter..... Suzuki : Access 125, GTX..... ALL BIG HITS!.... Hero: ??????? losers

Hero-Honda JV is good but restricting it's exports and limiting to domestic market is quite unfair... But Hero' Two-wheeler Body parts are not quite satisfiable...

hero should be forever indebted to the worlds finest bike manufacturer for teaching them bike manufacturing. period.

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Hero motor Corp also has some shares in Ather energy , electric vehicles.

Thanks sir for quality content 👍🙏👍

Unfunny fact: Hero motors is the only manufacturer to make motorcycles based on your personality.

Many unknown facts have emerged Thank you Now the question is,why Hero Electro is not taking into use for Electric two wheelers as Brand name of Hero Motocrops,

Gone are the days when motorcycles like Hero Honda Karizma ruled the Indian roads.

My dad had a CD 100..I used to help him Wash it when I was a kid 🤣

Every Foreign Bugger thinks. We cannot do things on our own. They forbid, we can do miracles even without their inital help at all, and can do better than what they really do. Without flouting any Business ethic, something that is very much Prevalent in American, British and European countries.

Did HMSI, at first, really compete with HH? Cuz HH had bikes around 100cc and Karizma while HMSI had a scooter and 125cc and 150cc. Unicorn and Shine were competing with Pulsar and Yamaha YBX which were taking the market by storm and HH was doing nothing about.

13 min video was fully engaging and lot of knowledge. Thank you

Bhai This is fully applicable for all Japan Mfrs Even Suzuki Honda Cars Toyota and other Japanese Mfrs have used the Same Startegy. Kawasaki also tried to do this with Bajaj but unlucky didn't work. So instead of Blaming Japanese we should blame our Janta who after getting Independence from British have become Japanese Slaves. We contribute so much of money to Japanese Treasury at every stage of our life Whether it is YOUTH MIDDLE AGED or after RETIREMENT. India is the only Country where Suzuki Commands 40 percent Market. Other countries they are hardly present. So don't please single out Honda it is actually a very big Mafia which they are working.

Honda Kawasaki Yamaha brought R & D and technology to India. Hero without Honda is nothing. Hero is a joke....they make ugly looking bikes.

Sorry Hero did backstab to Honda

in depth content. please just work on the accent , it would make it soothing for the ears along with the information thanks :)

Without R&D investment...indian companies cannot rule global market

There were times everyone had splendor in my locality

Why not? Honda sees d sales of herohonda. So why not, just Honda.

But after reading the book "The Making of The Hero", I have an immense respect for the Munjal brothers. It was not easy for anyone to migrate from Pakistan to India after separation to start and grow like one of the big business houses of India. Such struggle and devotion to the customer is not seen in the so-called bubbled 'unicorn' loss making nowadays startups.

Literally one of the best Indian info channels i have seen... Keep it up brother..

No. Actually it was Honda who kept the technical advancement alive in the Hero Honda vehicle and when they separated Hero has no further development in technology, their vehicles designs are going worse. The Old technology of Honda still working for them in the sales but The growth in advancement have been stopped sinces then.

Mate, great content but one suggestion please mind your English it's not "that point of a time" but rather it's "that point of time". Bests

Very informative. Thank you

This is more about Hero motocorp vs Hero electric fight. It sucks when you lose right to your own brand name. dang

2010 model Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme and Karizma.. Rockets 🔥🔥

The reason why Hero is losing market share is bcoz of lack of technology to develop premium bikes and loss of market share in scooter segment..The only product that was a success developed by hero is xpulse..Other than that all other models developed by them solely are flops or average success.Even the new passion and glamour are not as popular as they used to be..Also I am confused by the way they name the products like Glamour x tec,splendor xtec and soon and calling this as revolutionary technology bikes..While Honda is gradually gaining market share even after doing half of their potential just because of the incapability of brands like Hero to challenge them..

Hero Cycles made Ludhiana the Industrial hub in the country. Punjab owes a lot to Hero and Munjals.

Honda is very aggressive in 2 wheeler segment world wide country by country and it wants to be no 1 for entire life pan of the company generation after generation. Hero has advantage like Bajaj and TVS to put there innovations as USP before Japanese make it standard . All Japanese work on only engine part which makes there technology indestructible and acceptable to all customer s

This will be same lineup.. For many companies

My father had a motorcycle in 1970s What do you mean by there was no concept of motorcycle in India and there were only mopeds and scooters...?

In later stages, Hero Honda's new launch meant only new stickers. Hero Motocorp couldn't even launch a decent looking bike after the split. Honda came up with cbr and hornets. Condition of HM and Nokia are same, because they dont listen to customers.

So much for making motorcycle for the world. They can dream on

Nowdays hero quality(except their lower cc bikes) is very bad as well as their after sales service. Their r&d sucks, TVs has come far ahead of hero now.

To be honest it was Hero who backstabbed Honda by breaking the MoU signed before their venture. It was more like a trust deficit which lead to dissolution of venture. Honda is still in high demand, good servicing and returns, more reliable and cost effective. Truth to be told, Munjal brothers became more greedy, it's totally right to be ambitious for future endeavors but you have to pay a price for it which they didn't want to.

not gona lie hero design looks outdated but but the new splendor xtech looks very refreshing

Hero the company which not only survived but also excelled throughout all the troubles in the past will surely succeed in making its presence felt in the EV sector too and very soon the company will surely pivot and make it huge yet again.

Before hero- honda escorts- Yamaha already launched Yamaha Rd 350 motorcycle naming it Rajdoot 350 !

Hi, please lower the music in the background. Its overpowering and making difficult to hear dialog.

Hero service and customer care is so bad in fact worst as such 1:11 Honda doesn’t not have to do anything , hero will fizzle over a period of time.

Hero got greedy ..... Shame on indian company....

Ather is majorly own by hero Moto corp

This video is great. Kindly make video like this on Maruti Suzuki

Hero R&D already dead.. no hero bikes launched perfectly and succeeded after separation

You mentioned that no motorcycles were available in India before the launch of Hero Honda. You seem to have forgotten Royal Enfield Bullet, Jawa and Rajdoot.

What's the awesome background music at the end?

Divided they stand First hero Honda broke up Then hero broke up Indian companies are weak due to family squabbles

I have both hero honda splender and honda shine bike

Stop gore log in the background. They left us a long time ago. Otherwise brilliant content 💯

Happy Hero Motocorp Customer ❤️❤️ Hero Maestro new model

Hero is also an invester in aether energy

Excellent Presentation and very useful

Hero took the technology from Honda, TVS from Suzuki, Bajaj from Kawasaki... All are Japanese technology..

Hero is not performing well... It's declining due to their poor quality of their vehicles compared to Honda and they cannot attract the younger audience and bad after sale services...

Xpulse is currently Heroes best bike .

Half baked and Poor facts! This is not research this is Tom & Jerry story telling!

Recent hero motorcycle quality has been reduced to shit!! A matter of time before it goes out of business

Really good information bro

But they are invested in Ather electric!!!

Few factual errors in the video. Motorcycles were being made in India since 1956. In 1982 TVS created Ind-Suzuki as a JV, next to enter market was Escorts-Yamaha, next was Hero-Honda. Honda had a 4 Stroke engines which had better mileage but poor performance.

Hero wouldn’t be what it is today without Honda. Honda is behind the success of Hero’s 100-150 cc bikes. Without Honda’s long lasting and huge mileage giving engine , hero wouldn’t be this successful.

Your hindi looks better & impressing.

Hero did something like india in UNSC permanent seat..

Sir apka channel bahut hi badiya h but agar English me nahi hota to sari video dekha like aur subscribe bhi karta.

Deep down everyone knows Honda makes refined & durable engines of bikes and scooters.

Splender ❤

Competition always good for customers

Hero Honda name for quality, Hero only for delicate.

Honda Eterno was great.

Very Good Information 👍 👏 👌

Hero, bajaj and Tvs are Indian mad and owner is indian wheras other like honda and kawasaki are foreign brands. Indian go for first three brands

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More pictures related to the topic and less cringeworthy stock footage please