For real?

@@zoegillespie1900 Yesss !

Geoff is the MAN

HℹFiVE™ Animation truesetto

but falseto can be achieved by any human, this is imposible

I think lower range of falsetto is growl

@@hayatropical *fry

@@pawa303 fry is too impressive to be compared to a falsetto

LOL. Same. I'm a girl and did the B1 and freaked myself out. Too bad I didn't record it. Recorded my D2, though. Subharmonics definitely are spooky sounding.

That's just a vocal fry,if you actually hit all the wave to B1 one by one starting from F2...then that's good

I just hit it too!!!! Sad but I lost it

@Tariq Wiliams so... C2?

Кек, "scared the shit out of me" это то же самое, что и русское "напугаться до усрачки"?😀

WOooyee

Lucie Donajová lol you're funny xD :)

Lucie Donajová 😂👍🏻exactly!!

*can I eat this?*

+k barber Why so surprised? What you've put together is an amazing accomplishment in & of itself.

Who

Why surprised? There is some great basso content on your channel

I’ve watched your most recent videos.... I don’t think you can blast a C#1 or even an A1 as most basso profundos are capable of doing...

Really?? I would love to read those. I've read a couple articles talking about subharmonics utilizing the false cords vibrating one octave lower than the regular cords. One article was also talking about how throat singing utilizes the same cords, just different actuation of the sound. I will see if I can find that one, I may have it bookmarked. This information is basically what I quoted in the video, and I assumed it to be correct. Although, if another scholar has done research on this and actually witnessed/recorded the regular cords vibrating at different rates causing the subharmonic register to exist, I would definitely take that information as fact. I assumed that what I read was correct because of the similarities I notice between throat singing and subharmonic singing. One distinct similarity I notice is this: both techniques allow for overtones to be amplified; Although, the overtones are in series off of the fundamental, not the sub-octave frequency. I would definitely like to read the information you've got. From what I've seen, articles on this subject are few and far between, so any information can be important!

+k barber Just typed a big message and it got deleted ughhhhhhh. Sorry, Major props to you. Jeter, Yang and you to now Larson :D. Been into this for a long time now and you guys helped a ton, including you to now David with my stability using it :). So my message got deleted somehow and it was really long last time, but I'll just cut it short and get to the sciency side. There are several papers that affirm that mechanism as one cause of subharmonics, but I'm going to play devils advocate and say some are very similar. If you look into "deep voice" monk chanting, its very similar in sound and successful imitation is based off either a pure fry with these types of "modification" we use, or the false folds contacting and emulating a fry of there own, without being kagyraa. There's also a way using ariepiglottic trills, which cause similar pulsing to fry in tandem with vocal pitch to create subharmonics. Also throat singing and vibrating at half frequency, they all have somewhat diff feels.

+Alexander Wilson The fact that I have no idea what half of that is excites me. I have some more research to do :)

+David Larson I know right? :D I believe some can be used in tandem, I think Ive combined the AE trill with fry harmonic. (difficult because of throat constriction, there are apparently ways to utilize more normal qualities with constriction with additional forward movement of the jaw.) Anywho with combos as well as overtones/formant tweaking I think I've been able to get a G0 at the lowest as a "solid" note, ie not just pulsing. But I need a better pitch analysis, the "chords" make it difficult to check. Still getting familiar with all the software haha.

+Alexander Wilson You should definitely either send me some links of these other techniques, or post videos of them, because I don't know what they are, and in very interested in hearing them! I want to make many videos in the future about as many different techniques as possible, so any help for finding new ones is fantastic!

He's filming it from his prison cell because he was jailed for singing like shit at the mall. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎤🎤🏃🏃🎶🎶🎶💀💀😀😀

+David Larson instant subbed

+Hitashi son Aha thank you man! ^_^

+David Larson Well this were exactly what i have been looking for, someone who actually explains it properly. How in the world did you discover this? oh and btw 0:58 you used the technique for a D2 ? :D Wow the D2 and the next note A1 those 2 sound like they have the same 'quality' if you will, your technique is so good, that it seems to be its true chest voice. wauw, i'm very impressed by this.. you're so young and you're a baritone right? your speaking voice sounds like a 1st bass / top bass / baritone' whatever. And you just dropped an A1 that could pass as chest voice .. !

+Hitashi son Definitely check out my other videos, the A1 in this is very weak sounding relative to my other videos because the acoustics in this room were absolutely terrible for low end projection. But thank you very much! I'm excited to make more videos on this subject soon, especially about how to make it sound natural, and just like an extension of chest voice, instead of it being an obvious modal technique. It's taken a lot of practice and expermenting. A lot of it has to do with overtones, but I will talk about that in a later video ^_^ I can belt fully up to a high tenor C, although when I go higher, it automatically mixes and I haven't been able to change that. In highschool I sang bass 2 in choir at my school and at North Dakota All State choir for two years (man I wish I knew about this technique back then!). Basically, I am a natural tenor that was forced to sing bass 2 all through highschool (I was the only one that could project anything below an F). Because my natural voice is not very low, I had to figure out a way to shape my mouth so I could project lower notes by using resonance, instead of volume and rattle like most "real" basses are able to use. I believe the techniques I learned for low end resonance help me out A LOT when it comes to sounding natural in the subharmonic register. I'm still learning though, I've got a lot of room to grow!

+David Larson hahaha you're so right about it sounding uglier than your attempt at sounding like a beginner, i have been trying now for a couple of hours, i find that if i do it very quietly with almost no force, i can start frying abit on top of it, if i sing the note with normal force, i can't break it into fry.. Seriously. But the fact that someone as young as you who's not even a deep bass can do it, proved to me two things, you don't need to be Russian to do this, ( kidding) and you don't need to be a abnormally deep bass. Do you think a girl could learn it ?

thank fuck for you, i did not care about his friend david kahn and his voice and all the other BS he talked about

YOU FECKIN LEGEND

Ty m8

cheers mate

tysm

Dont worry, me too.... My parents are so annoyed with the "funny noises" i keep making XD

Lol I’m just starting and it’s so addictive

Me too!

The guy was so considerate, I would never skip

Thanks

Thank u

Thanks man

If you don't have 10 minutes to spend on this you're not gonna be a great singer

So glad I'm not alone on that 1st soprano drooling over bass part...

Same. I can hit his notes by just hearing the difference!!!!

I lost my voice one time: scariest thing in the world for a singer. Larynx was inflamed. No false chords activated. As my larynx healed from whatever had happened to it, I started to produce squeaks. Not croaks.

@@stiaininbeglan3844 Well...There's different ways to lose your voice ;-)

Correction: The false folds may come into vibration with swelled cords, but as a side effect. I think the hoarse tone would still be modal (M1). Then again, it could be M0 since hoarse voices are severely limited in pitch range and volume.

@@into.the.wood.chipper. what do you think about kurt cobain's style of singing?

Happened to me a fair few times. I used to get really pissed off/down in the dumps so went to a paint shed outside work and indulged in primal screaming. Twoz quite nice coz the side effects gave my voice a bit more lows and resonance.

Matthew Hume ride the trip man

Aliasphobic?

moiré

+David Larson I can go down to Bb 0 with this technique :) Quite a useful tool for oktavists, especially for traditional Russian music

+David Larson You're right about Tim Storms, though. He's the king of gimmicks as far as basso profundo singing is concerned. You're far more talented. Have you seen his interviews? Trying say it's "the length of his vocal cords" and crap! You've got actual talent. (as does Tim Foust, don't get me wrong - he can go to D2 or maybe lower with chest voice - respect)

+Jaska Börner Thanks for your comment! Yeah I try not to say bad things about people in the professional world but... I can't disagree with you lol Tim Foust is good down to about an A1 and anything below that is probably either fry or growl on mic. Tim Storms chest voice stops around C2. I've never heard him sing below that without fry.

My range is E2-G5 on a good day, and I'm only a hobbyist musician, so I respect anybody who can go lower (or higher) naturally. :)

+David Larson Tim Foust can hit an F1 chest (and possibly lower while practicing or training by himself).

This type* not "very" lol

hay its more than i knew.. im learning from you.. don sweat it

The important thing is- research continues. Correcting and search for correct info is basis for improvement. Kudos. For video and comments.

Broooooo that's awesome!! Do you know if a girl is able to sing in the subharmonic register?

Haha man that's awesome! Some people are just able to "get it" right away. I'm not sure why yet, but some people can basically hear the sound of this technique and do it! There's many people that can't find very easily though, so you're pretty lucky! Check out my other videos on this technique if your looking to grow in it! Thanks again!

Awesome! Hopefully it works out well for you! Thanks

Yeah, the volume. I can get quite a nice tone, but it's super quiet. Still pretty usable in the studio :D

Basics*

Hefty Tortilla he meant BASSics 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@nic..1 woooosh

EPICO

@@thenightprowler3426 S L A P like now

without this tecnique my lowest note is E2 reliably, sometimes even D2 or Eb2, with this tecnique i think i can hit an octave below my lowest chest note, so E1, but it's really difficult to control, i'm still learning, so at the moment i can't sing below E2.. my highest note instead is E4 (without shouting) and then there is my first passaggio, then if i increase the volume i can hit G4, tops A4 in chest in a good day

Thank you very much sir! Yeah there is not a lot of information out there for this technique, so really all I could do is take what I read, throw it out there, and wait for someone to correct me. That's basically what happened, and it has turned out fine. My Subharmonic Revision video is on my channel if you would like to check that out. It is much more accurate than this ^_^ Thanks again!

I'm a long-time singer and choral conductor (well, I'm 72-years-old. so that's sorta long :) and you present yourself in a most professional manner and, besides being a talented, there's a great personality that comes through in your teaching. If you're not going on for a career in music, I hope you will keep music as an important part of your life always. You have an unusual talent, David. Your parents, siblings, music teachers....everyone...:) must be very proud of you.

+John Smith Thank you so very much, I really REALLY appreciate that. A music career is not necessarily something I'm striving for, however I can guarantee that I will forever be involving myself in music. It's not something I would ever compromise or give up. It's truly a passion of mine. Thank you for your very kind words sir!

+David Larson David: Please only refer to me as, "Sir" after the Queen (that's of England, not the group..LOL) has knighted me. Since I've never been to England and I live in Las Vegas, NV, and have no immediate overseas travel plans, I fear there's little likelihood of that happening. In the meantime, call Me, John. :) In my retirement, I busy myself with putting together slide shows. (I know....be still your heart. :) If you want to take a look sometime when you're bored to tears, just do a UKposts search for: lvchoralman. Also, my E-mail address is at the end of most of those shows, should you ever want to contact me that way. You have a great life ahead of you, David. I hope there will be some way I can follow it.

Tell us how's your progress goes!

Update

pentatonix is everywhere. LOL 💜

Alexandria Hauser I don’t even remember commenting this lol I was so confused when I got a notification someone responded lol

Hey the thraot singing is the same as beatbox throat bass u can check beatboxer they kill it , check codfish he throatsings very well

You're welcome? 😅😅

u better not go check Avi kaplan because then u'll get pregnant

Go look up Tim Foust and it'll be twins!

shannon Bear tru

I think I did change. Him and avi are what I think are the best bass singers

This technique, like all other vocal techniques, is not gender-specific, however the result won't be quite as ground-shaking. Still would be a shockingly low note for a girl.

Honey, if you practice, gently, you can expand your range up as well as down. Just don't push your voice too hard. I am a 1st soprano, and I can reach down into the upper tenor range. It is a strain on my voice to do so, but I can. What he's doing is basically what I call a "Darth Vader voice". It is VERY stressful to your vocal chords, so don't do it too much. But if you practice, you can get clarity and some volume to those notes, just like he said. Never let boys tell you you can't do something. You can just do it differently than them. I will say, that unless you're one of those women who has a super low natural range anyway (like my grandma), this technique will not allow you to sing bass. Your chords will simply stop vibrating when you reach the end of their capability. That's what mine do. Darth Vader voice, Darth Vader voice, Darth Vader voice, silence.

Stiainin Beglan Thank you

Good luck, I guess.

Thought it was serbian: bogorodice djevo, but i guess its the same in russian?

If you engaged subharmonics and hit a B0, that would mean you were singing a B1 in your chest... meaning you've convinced yourself that D2 is your lowest chest note. Try pushing yourself down. I used to think the same thing, now I can get a chest G1. :)

Esh!

I'm still wondering. Have you found out yet? I'd love to hear how to because any tutorial I watch mentions relaxing to hit it, but I don't understand what to do in order for that to happen.

Puma2807 so I’ve been practicing since yesterday and I finally got it ( the concept) still practicing so i can do different notes but (and everything that follows is just my opinion) the relaxation isn’t what’s keeping you from doing it. The first step for me was just singing a note and focusing on breathing while making that guttural noise. I pretend the noise is something I can move around and had to make it come from the bottom of my throat kind of at the collar bone.then it was on to learning how to control it

Anđela Vukčević First person to comment this and it's been over a year and almost 150k views! Thanks for noticing :)

David Larson hehehe it's in my mother tongue, that's why I was amaazed when I heard it all of a sudden 😊😊 You did it perfectly too! 😊

right...i was not expecting Serbian lol

What were you getting before?

Andy Chamberlain Music or it might be the fact that it isn’t popular and people preform tenors

I definitely don't prefer tenor. Andy, your upper range won't suffer, and if anything, your pitch accuracy will become stronger. What you'd be doing is exercising your vocal muscles. Like all exercise, it takes practice and rest. Worst case scenario: practice too much, stress your vocal chords, inflame your larynx, lose part or all of your voice. Hopefully temporarily. Maybe develop vocal nodes.

Qorey Taus probably

2 years later, you done yet fam?

@@jpg6296 nah he just turned 12

Qorey Taus No of course not, I was doing this at 5 years old.

Done yet?

WireTorch how many days did it take?

I found a liquor store and I drank it females can be contraltos, mezzo-soprano and sopranso

WireTorch females can't be tenors.

WireTorch Michael Jackson was a tenor. The only way a male could be a soprano, is if he sings soprano roles in opera e.i. a sopranist, or uses falsetto to sing them countertenor. Your friend was a contralto or a very low set mezzo. And C3 isn't even that amazing of a low note for mezzos, Beyoncé and JoJo consistently support it, Lady Gaga hits it like it's nothing etc.

WireTorch Ah that's different. I would class him as a sopranist. If you've successfully completed your transition and can sing in the range of contralto, mezzo or soprano, than it makes sense to call you that. As for fach it's generally a guideline to help you develop your voice, after that you can extend your voice beyond your fach and sing in ranges other than yours.