The one, unifying constant across all of these mediums, stories and iterations of the Xenomorph are real life executives that probably shouldn't have meddled in the development of the series, the lore and it's art.

12:35 I really like that art piece of the deacon walking up the mountain with the expanse of valley landscape behind. Imagine being out in a place like that on some kind of off-grid backpacking hike and seeing that wandering in your direction.

Still one of the most interesting and underrated creatures to me.

As much as people hate on this thing, I do like it’s design. I know it’s a “not-xenomorph” that they used to associate with Alien, but I like the idea of the sharpened head and the Goblin Shark mouth.

A moment of silence for the engineer who was asleep for 2000 years only to die by being mouth humped 😆

"why was it blue? I don't know" Perfectly summarizes everything about the Prometheus movies

I wish Covenant had explored this evolution rather than explain away the Alien by saying David made it. In my mind the Alien already existed when we see Prometheus, is at this due to the mural. This makes the Alien more mythical and foreboding. The Deacon is a clue to the origin of the Alien, nothing more. The comic book mountain idea is far out! I think it could work as a film but remove the Deacon from the story. The goo mutated a mountain, or perhaps the vegitation. Exploring how the goo alters living matter is interesting. Maybe if the mountain organism touched a mechanical object this is where the biomechanical creature concept could emerge. It is a shame Covenant didn't go in this direction. I still want a sequel though!

I love how the movie tapped into evolutionary concepts. The giant mother of all "face-huggers" when it attacked the engineer near the end of Prometheus. Later the deacon is born from the engineer's torso. I loved it. The Deacon's appearance was dead on in my opinion. It was exactly the way it should have been.

I was an instant fan of the Deacon, as soon as I first saw his adorable faces. I love the goblin shark aspect

I was on the golf course riding beside my hubby in a cart when we both saw a perfectly constructed alien from spare parts on someone’s back patio! Almost had a cardiac incident is how real it looked!

There was also concept art where the Deacon seemed to be transforming into either a Neomorph or Xenomoprh as if its genetic material was still unstable.

They overcomplicated this so much. I like the idea of different forms of Xenomorphs but they went overboard when they're all, functionally, basically the same, it did not need to be this complicated unless there were going to be some massive differences in abilities from the Deacon vs a regular Xenomorph with traits of whatever it birthed from. The black goo was such a cool concept, sad they dropped the ball in the movies, I even like the idea of giant mountain deacon, like make the goo create crazy variations we don't expect, coulda been really scary and cool.

At this point, the alien franchise needs a massive reboot, highlighting the personal horror of the first film and escalating it over the films (or series), explaining us the origins of the aliens and the human race in a coherent, well connected and not disjointed way.

I really wasn't impressed with how the Deacon ended up, it had so more much potential, I wanted Prometheus Paradise not Alien Cov.👍

imho they should have stuck mostly with the original xenomorph + very few sensible main varieties, now its look "look look look, we made a new one again". Sometimes less is far more.

None of this explains how the eggs got on the ship in the first alien movie obviously that ships been there longer than David's version of the xenomorph.

The Deacon is an amazing creature. I would love for it to have a film of its own, something like alien where it's the only mature one. The mountain idea is crazy, and I think it wastes the deacon a little but it's base idea is brilliant.

After all this time and years, I'm still lost. Love the content though!

I think the mountian twist is rad! It definatly keeps true to gigers art work with the beings infused in the wall and whatnot, awesome

Great job Man I absolutely love this universe and lore. Keep up thees good vid's !

well I'll say this about decon mountain.... it's not the stupidest thing I've seen in the alien franchise

I hope we get to see Its Mature form - this variant of proto xenomorphial lifeform has a Lot of potential

thanks for all your awesome videos! :D

Damn, I need to get my hands and eyes on those comics. Great video, thanks!

This could have been so simple: remove the black goo element and just make the engineers the creators of many lifeforms, the xenomorphs being their greatest creation which ultimately destroyed them. The deacon should have just been what an engineer/xeno hybrid looked like. There, that's it.

I think it would have been interesting if the deacon was the predecessor to the xeno lineage as a whole, only producing actual xenomorph-like quallities when it grew into the mountain, and became a hive that produced the first legitimate facehuggers. That is to say, the surrounding fauna and flora would be directly derived from the deacon, as it became the environment. To put me idea simply, after having grown into a mountain, the deacon would produce a cloud of mutating spores that would go on to develope traits based on their new biome. The Spores that lingered in the in the deacon's interior latched back on to their still mutating progenitor like a parasite, developing into the first eggs, only awakening when a new source of genetic material was present. In short: The Xenomorphs as we know them are the decendants of the deacon that evolved to be parasitic, as apposed to the rest of the life on the planet that evolved into their own forms of hard to kill plant life, and harder to escape animal life.

I really like the design at 10:20 it seriously looks really adorable. The proportions are just right and I love its big tail.

Amazing content! Great video

They have made this way too complicated for themselves

I like the idea of the Xenomorph as always being stumbled upon. Even by the engineers , a cold intelligent mystery that has no true beginning. Can’t be controlled or understood.

Love the comic additions, perfect hunting ground for predators

Really enjoyable video- they had some really great ideas and some really shite ideas, and I just wanted to say thanks for displaying and explaining them all (or at least, a good amount of them). I have only seen the movies up to Prometheus, and none of the video games or comics, so most of this was new to me. Good or bad, it was still very interesting. Thanks again!

The mountain is a very Lovecraftian touch. I could see how you would find it ridiculous, but I personally think the story would be cliche driven without that one aspect. It gives it such a sense of weirdness and incomprehensible biology. that is what the black goo is all about.

I love the fact the mural has finally been noticed and the chamber itself reminded me of a chapel or a crypt as well a xeno nursery. After reading the original dark horse volumes 1-6 I came to believe that the goo was royal jelly or a substance derived from it. The idea that a droid created the species was an immediate f**k up for me considering the overlapping nature of the AVP franchise and many cameos of xeno trophies in a timeline before Prometheus. The deacon would be a off shoot hybrid only due to the trilobites conception after holloways exposure to an element that was derived from the original xenos. As much as I love this franchise the most recent iterations are completely out of sync with the rest of the alien universe and lead the story to what could originally have been an interesting origin or side story but completely destroyed the little sense it had instead. But it's just my opinion.

The mountain twist is absolutely inspired!

Carlos Huante is just amazing.

the deacon resembled the mural in the ample room...jus sayin.

I loved the Deacon, as short as his appearance was. I also have a 12 inch figure of the Deacon, and have asked Carlos would he mind me doing a 3 foot model of the "baby face" concept neomorph. That translucent look is central to a lot of Carlos Huante's creature art, so it has to be to this creature.

Very interesting, and easy to follow... As a fan from the original Alien movie (1979), I'm completely transfixed to see where this will end, and having discovered where the gas giant that lv426 & lv223 is, really located, only makes a person really wonder, 'what's out there, in the depths of space, where 'no one can hear you scream'

THANK YOU!! You’re the first channel I’ve heard someone pronounce H. R. Giger’s name correctly!!!

Ugh... what a mess. This is what happens when you get too many "creative minds" coming into a universe that they (think) they know, and then trying to be different. You wind up with a storytelling nightmare (not in a good way). Everyone thinks their "new twist" to the Alien universe is better and more "edgy", when all they're really doing is diluting the DNA of the original story, and convoluting and confusing the timeline and ancestry of the xenomorph. Even Ridley Scott has changed so much that he decided that the idea of Artificial Intelligence out of control was a scarier concept than the xenomorph. I have all the respect for Ridley Scott in the world, and I understand that he thinks that the Xenomorph has been done ad nosium. But look at where we are; it wasn't the idea of androids that put butts in theater seats. Once again, it was the idea of knowing MORE about the Xenomorph and it's origins that brought people back to the franchise in droves. That said, while Ridley is a phenomenal film maker, and his expert grasp on cinematography is unmatched, I really think he's lost touch with the franchise and why audiences return again and again to be terrified by the Alien creature.

I love Prometheus so much (if you add in a couple of the deleted scenes). The real tragedy was what they did to Alien Covenant. Fox really has been fucking up their properties for years. I desperately hope Ridley Scott gets to do a third and final movie in his series and I hope it deals with the engineers more and xenos less!

Well done 👍🏻

The deacon was actually a very interesting alien, it might not have been what we were expecting, but still interesting

the "deacon" is what happens when people who have no apparent grasp of their own creation "revisit their work" lol

The deacon always intrigued me, the mountain part in fire and stone is rather a waste when compared to all the other aspects the series adds. With the rumor that a future sequel will return to LV-223. I hope it can add in the mutated forests, possibly more creatures created by the goo from the ship. And a more accurate deacon.

Kid: Mom, can we buy xenomorph? Mom: No, we have xenomorph at home. Xenomorph at home: Deacon.

I love all the lore idk why but I'm so obsessed 😅😅 I want more movies and more stories! 🤘🤘

*It ain't cannon without Dan O ' Bannon.*

I personally love the idea that the deacon would keep growing thanks to the black goo and become a mountain, I feel like it shows off how powerful and God like the goo is especially if you don't think it was simply created by the engineers, I love the idea that this small creature was left alone on a lifeless world and just grew into a land mass

Im a massive Alien fan and i love the Deacon i hope it comes back even if its for a brief moment in the covenant sequel if we ever get one

I love it all! The ifs the nots, the what is. I’d like to see more deacon varieties on film for sure.

It has only a few seconds of screentime, but the Deacon is my favourite criature on the Alien universe

I think the biggest issue was how it could grow to the size of a mountain without sustenance. It would need as much to grow that big.

The Deacon was a bold move on the part of the concept artist - it shows the many different types of genes of the Xenomorph which can develop. It is truly exciting and scary. Alien movies can be so much more. There are so many different ways one can design and explore in movies. This is what makes the Alien and Predator movies so much fun to watch.

I would have liked to see how the Deacon interacts with a Xenomorph. I think it would be dope if they were natural enemies.Give them something to do besides maul humans into oblivion.

The writers need to decide whether or not the engineers came first or the predators, then build upon that. In my opinion the predators seem to be more technologically advanced than the engineers, they could reference back to AVP, how the predators used ancient earth civilizations to breed xenomorphes for their right of passage. They could’ve used a different alien species that was a worthy opponent at the time for their customs on Engineer people. Engineers got fed up, fought back and used the technology left behind to create super soldiers, that we saw in Prometheus. Still holding a grudge, engineers created the black goo, with the intention of using it as a bio-weapon, but later discovered its genetic mutation properties. And decided to play the role of gods just like their predecessors before them, creating life on earth. Hence why they are seen still wearing simple clothes, keeping to the same customs of simple early civilization before the predators came. This would make the predators the actual bad guys. David The Android did not completely create the xenomorphes but mearly some what completed a recipe that the engineers prototyped to use as a weapon against the predators since they were so advanced in combat. They needed something better, stronger, and faster. Since the engineers had multiple outposts, let’s say one did complete the xenomorphe recipe we know today, predators discovered a worthy foe, taking us back to why it was used civilizations on earth. And why in Alien 1 a engineers ship is loaded with face huggers, with the destination of predator home planet, was attacked by predators, crash landed, and how the predators came into contact with xenomorphes. So this leaves room for a new species of aliens yet to be discovered, and a war between engineers and predators. Again this is just my opinion on how the story could be saved.

I really wanna know more about the trilobite

noice, cool explanation regarding the deacon name and the bishop hat

Looks so awesome

I kind of like the idea that the "black goo" isn't anything created by the engineers, but rather mass produced by them. Imagine them traveling the vast universe, and they come across this planet that had these strange life forms, and they come across the source of it being this strange substance produced naturally by the planet. Then they take this substance and engineer their own uses for it. That would explain the mural (to me), because I don't see them creating some sort of church like room for something they created. Otherwise, where's the human's mural room? haha!

The only way I could see the mountain twist working is if the black substance made the Deacon require food. I am no biologist, but even I know that nutrition helps growth rates. Although, Mt. Deacon being immobile because of it's size and wheigh is plausible, which I do like.

The mountain xeno is interesting. But, I would be interested variants on other planets or/and Engineer strains fighting each other.

The mountain idea is awesome if done right...I think its worth a try

Xeno's take on the properties/characteristics of their hosts. So the DeaconXeno is the Lex Luthor of the species. A great opportunity for a storyline in which Xeno'Deac creates ultrapowerful doomsday breed that necessitates every single sentient species to combine forces to eliminate.... Think Battle of the Five Armies with humans, replicants, engineers, predators, and insurgent xeno's standing against DoomsdayXenos... Epic. *(Hope you see this Mr's Scott, Cameron, DelToro, Villeneuve, Lucas... JJ nevermind, find something shiny to chase into traffic lol)

And then the lonley Deacon became a mountain...wtf

They should have allowed the District 9 director to do his film. Sounded really great and more of a true sequel to Cameron's "Aliens". Alien 3 blew ass and Scott's two latest movies are convoluted and have done nothing to advance the series in a positive light.

What I want to know is why there are facehuggers in the mural? I get that they were a design choice made while the film was still Alien: Engineers, and that they probably just didn't have time to remove them (they're very hard to see anyway), but I'd like to know how those facehugger images on the mural can be explained in-universe. Has anyone heard anything about that?

I think the Deacon should be it’s own organism, separate from the Xenomorphs. Essentially: Xenomorphs are natural organism, while the Deacon is an Engineer-made creature. Hey @SciFi_Explained, I like your idea of an expanded universe. Would the Deacon being separate from the Xenomorphs work for you?

The trilobites and xenomorphs remind me of wasps that lay eggs inside a caterpillar 🐛 then the caterpillar get eaten alive from the inside by the wasp larvae until they burst the caterpillar open and are born 😬😬😬😬

Imma watch Prometheus just one more time (it's my 34th, lol). I just love the whole concept for engineers, and how life was planted on Earth. Too bad many just wanted same blood and gore... instead of embracing new concepts and ideas. Haters gonna hate. You did great, Ridley Scot! 💯

I like your videos! I also wish somebody would compare the "Xenomorph" from the old TV miniseries and the old TV series "Something is Out There." to the "Xenomorphs" from the "Aliens" and "Predator" universe.

My Explanation = The Deacon. Bad design choice. ☕

Can you look at a Predator called Big Red and a Predator called Wasp🐝

The other weird hint is an audio queue of the Deacon. In Prometheus you see a flashback of the engineers running from something as you hear a scream from the distance. Obviously it's the monster they're running from that killed them, and possibly the result of a leak from the black goo that somehow contaminated the station that was meant to protect it. But that scream is the exact same scream as the one made by the Deacon at the end of the movie. Either it was a clever showing that there were deacons loose killing the engineers in the flashback (which would beg the question what happened to those deacons or any offspring they created), or it's just the film creators recycling audio so they don't have to make another monstrous scream.

I‘d have really liked to see even more of the „original“ deacon in the comics, or even in Prometheus. I really like the concept of it and it would‘ve been really interesting to see how the queen looked like or maybe even how the facehuggers/ trilobites would look like if there was a queen. The comics kinda showed the new LV perfectly but I still prefer the Prometheus deacon over the aliens in fire and stone, it would‘ve given it a little bit more „twisting“.

I don't understand the naming convention. Deacons in churches that say masses in the vernacular don't wear hats and in the Latin rite they wear Barrettas which look nothing like that. I think they were thinking of bishops.

Im confused.. hahaha how come prometheus and alien covenant has much futuristic techs than the original alien series.. if prometheus and alien covenant are prequel?.. by the way i like your previous vids.. ✌️✌️✌️ watched the alpha/aliens/ predator connection 👍👍👍

Please tell me is there any other Movies im missing in Reference to Aliens and Engineers?I saw Alien Covenant and Prometheus

They need a refresh these films, with in depth lore research, and implemented in a new set of movies in order.

The Deacon was unknowingly left on the planet from Prometheus. If the mural is indeed portraying a Deacon, this would/should confirm that Alien:Awakening is referencing the Deacons turn on the big-screen. This means we will get an epic conclusion to Scotts prequel movie trilogy. My guess is Engineers are still alive elsewhere & comes to a crazy war eventually leading to Humans teaming up with their Creators, Engineers, to overcome the extinguishment of their kinds

No idea why people keep referencing comics considering they are just some random person's fanfic.

After all these years I still crave more .

Could have done without the deacon all together. All we wanted was an alien movie with xenomorphs and some kind of engineer back story. Everything els is complicating the franchise.

This franchise has been absolutely destroyed by all these "creative genius" types. Ridiculous.

Holy crap...the idea to emulate that iridescent blue of the Deacon's skin after a horse placenta was _indeed_ scary and beautiful. How the hell do people come up with this stuff lol.

Looks cool

What a convoluted mess

As far as I'm concerned, it ended with James Cameron's "Aliens". Everything else was/is a cash grab, capitalizing on nostalgia, and some predictable jump scares.

I need more modern movies and more explanations lol been always a fan

this is rad

Trash, needs more Giger! They should have went with his Version. That or Necronomicon IV. Other thing, it was a total waste of a Xenomorph. Just another throwaway like Boba Fett, Darth Maul, etc. Comic storyline didn't make it any better.

What an absolute mess this franchise turned out to be.

On the one hand, new variants! On the other... MOUNTAIN XENO...

The cycle reminds me of this scene from addams family values with some girl telling Wednesday and pugsley about her parents having another baby. Some nonsense about possibly a stork?, a wish, an angel, a diamond and a cabbage patch

The real problem with 'Prometheus,' is it treats the audience as if they are unintelligent consumers and not fans.

Fun fact,the Deacon alien is actually Catholic

Thanks for the video and explanation (although I'm not sure I like it at all), do you have the link for the deacon illustration where he is standing outside like at 9:06" ?

Killer video

When you've retconned the origin of the titular alien so much it isn't even an alien - just some homonculus a gay android cooked up because of his daddy issues.