DEF CON 22 - Deviant Ollam & Howard Payne - Elevator Hacking - From the Pit to the Penthouse

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Elevator Hacking - From the Pit to the Penthouse
Deviant Ollam The CORE Group
Howard Payne The CORE Group
Throughout the history of hacker culture, elevators have played a key role. From the mystique of students at MIT taking late-night rides upon car tops (don't do that, please!) to the work of modern pen testers who use elevators to bypass building security systems (it's easier than you think!) these devices are often misunderstood and their full range of features and abilities go unexplored. This talk will be an in-depth explanation of how elevators work... allowing for greater understanding, system optimizing, and the subversion of security in many facilities. Those who attend will learn why an elevator is virtually no different than an unlocked staircase as far as building security is concerned!
While paying the bills as a security auditor and penetration testing consultant with his company, The CORE Group, Deviant Ollam is also member of the Board of Directors of the US division of TOOOL, The Open Organisation Of Lockpickers. Deviant runs the Lockpicking Village with TOOOL at HOPE, DEFCON, ShmooCon, etc, and he has conducted physical security training sessions for Black Hat, DeepSec, ToorCon, HackCon, ShakaCon, HackInTheBox, ekoparty, AusCERT, GovCERT, CONFidence, the United States Military Academy at West Point, and the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. His favorite Amendments to the US Constitution are, in no particular order, the 1st, 2nd, 9th, & 10th.
Twitter: @deviantollam, @TCGsec
Howard Payne is an elevator consultant from New York specializing in code compliance and accident investigations. He has logged over 9,000 hours examining car-tops, motor rooms, and hoistways in cases ranging from minor injuries to highly-publicized fatalities, and has contributed to forensic investigations that have been recognized by local, State, and Federal courts. Howard has appeared on national broadcast television making elevators do things they never should. When he's not riding up and down high-rise hoistways, he moonlights as a drum and bass DJ and semi-professional gambler. His favorite direction is Up and his favorite elevator feature is riot mode.
Twitter: @SgtHowardPayne

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@CBaggers
@CBaggers 5 років тому
This is the only tech talk I've ever seen where multiple presenters shared the floor and it wasnt an awkward, hokey, stilted mess. Well done to these guys, and for the excellent content
@ShahabSheikhzadeh
@ShahabSheikhzadeh 3 роки тому
this is what happens when you rehearse many, many times :)
@MiguelisNoisy
@MiguelisNoisy Рік тому
34:19
@supremebeme
@supremebeme 5 років тому
"we have seven minutes, and we're going to use all seven minutes"
@pickle7056
@pickle7056 4 роки тому
There's a sex joke in there somewhere...
@maneatingcheeze
@maneatingcheeze 5 років тому
The big thing I learned from this talk is that only professionals should work the shaft.
@atanaciogarza7176
@atanaciogarza7176 4 роки тому
underrated post. LMFAO
@deathless12345678
@deathless12345678 4 роки тому
We work it well. Up and down all day long.
@Jules-pr9kn
@Jules-pr9kn 4 роки тому
you're at 69 likes so I'm not allowed to like it sorry
@mayhem661616
@mayhem661616 3 роки тому
There was a case last year in California. A murderer on life sentence escaped by making a copy of the wardens master key. He got a really close look because the wardens key was in a photo on a pamphlet given to prisoners on their way into lock up.
@calamaria9221
@calamaria9221 5 років тому
The Defcon guys really need to stop interrupting talks in the middle of them. Also lmao "I hope I didn't get you off time" when they didn't care anyway and then comes 7 minutes early to get them off the stage early.
@soyebpatel2994
@soyebpatel2994 7 місяців тому
😅😅😊😅w😊😊😮😮😮.😂😢a😮😊😅😅 8 x 😂😂🎉😂🎉
@RandomUser2401
@RandomUser2401 7 місяців тому
fr. what buss do these guys have being on the stage. let the flippin speakers alone.
@ViKODiN_
@ViKODiN_ 6 місяців тому
Thought the same thing myself. Why not do the shots after or in the beginning instead of totally ambushing the speakers (who were killing it) 😂😂. And then he kinda has this condescending approach at the end, and the inflection he uses when trying to lure them w alcohol shots that they probably don’t give two shxts about anyways, speaking to them like pets or subhuman. Just weird behavior 😅😂
@Cfomodz
@Cfomodz 3 місяці тому
I understand what you’re saying, and it was a bit cringe to hear them call him a new speaker, and then later refer to them as new speaker”s” when he already said he wasn’t…. And also… is & was kind of famous in this community, so… 🤷‍♂️ but annnnyway, if you’ve never been to DEFCON in person or didn’t go to anything but talks/have only watched talks online then you likely aren’t familiar with goons being goons and doing goony stuff, but that was kind of unsurprising goon behavior if we’re being real, and they are most all actually really cool, but they are hackers/nerds in positions of authority and you can tell they’re a bit awkward and uncomfortable because that’s the type of person most of us are. I recognize this comment is 4y old, but it’s getting a ton of likes and more recent replies, so I just wanted to say this in fairness to them and the interruption. When stuff like this happens live it’s a lot less jarring as well. I don’t know if it’s on YT but I think it was DC 17 when the fire marshal showed up and 🐻 had to clear the main hall of the Riviera for like an hour. That was indeed disruptive, but stuff like this is mostly taken in stride and I would venture to say happens at every con.
@levo75
@levo75 5 років тому
As an elevator mechanic: very good talk! Also: follow their advice on not entering the shaft if you don't know what you're doing, you will die.
@Charliepinman
@Charliepinman 5 років тому
Ill take that advice!
@tadferd4340
@tadferd4340 5 років тому
That to me says that there needs to be safer hoistway designs to keep elevator techs safe. Everyone deserves the safest possible workplace. Some jobs are inherently unsafe but elevator maintenance shouldn't be one.
@SF-dy6hn
@SF-dy6hn 5 років тому
@@tadferd4340 meh kinda like saying we need safer electricity. if you know what the fuck you are doing study the specific building schematics go to school for it and use proper precaution you'll be fine. it would probably require a dickload of research that your average goofball thinks he knows, but doesn't. with computers you are given a certain amount of leeway that the physical world just doesn't offer.
@tadferd4340
@tadferd4340 5 років тому
@@SF-dy6hn I disagree. You can design safer working environments, or create other engineering solutions. This is often the best solution. Humans are very good at making mistakes, even when properly trained. In other cases, no amount of training will help protect you. Using electricity as an example. Racking circuit breakers is dangerous business. Why rack in person when you can do it remotely? People will say cost but we need to stop putting monetary cost before cost of life.
@volundrfrey896
@volundrfrey896 5 років тому
That sounds like a challenge to me
@UselessDuckCompany
@UselessDuckCompany 7 років тому
this talk was fascinating. I found the interruptions to be a bit annoying though.
@damstachizz
@damstachizz 7 років тому
The interruptions were extremely fucking annoying, the guys are up there to talk let them talk
@jimenezdecosta8478
@jimenezdecosta8478 7 років тому
It was the last talk of the day, i can understand they do something funny at the end.
@jeremyhonner6469
@jeremyhonner6469 7 років тому
u see much defcon? every new talker has to take a shot, its been tradition for ages.
@xl000
@xl000 6 років тому
that bro attitude... Alcohol is not something everyone enjoys
@Abracadanie1
@Abracadanie1 6 років тому
There is another video which is a longer version of this talk on youtube, same guys, just a different Venue and two hours in stead of one.
@johnantonopoulous6381
@johnantonopoulous6381 7 років тому
I work in a hospital and have been in the elevator when med flight landed and holy crap that thing moves fast when they hit the ER Call button.
@SondreGrneng
@SondreGrneng 3 роки тому
​@Trantor The Troll To be fair, if someone is going to the ER, chances are, they need to be there 5 minutes ago. Especially if he's coming in from the air.
@lousassel7809
@lousassel7809 4 роки тому
I spent an hour learning about elevators and was entertained the entire time. I think my 'tism is flaring up
@ofyourbluesky
@ofyourbluesky 3 роки тому
You and me both, bud
@Jonathan.Boring
@Jonathan.Boring 3 роки тому
@@ofyourbluesky I’ve watched this talk over three times. Me three bud
@thesomewhatfantasticmrfox
@thesomewhatfantasticmrfox Місяць тому
Y'all just like me for real. Thinking about something, then trolling across the internet for some strange info you merely thought about six hours ago.
@119793
@119793 25 днів тому
yeah i don’t think any normal people are on the Hour Long Elevator Video to be fair i think we’re all tism here
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 5 років тому
90% of "elevator based security" relies on Joe Public looking at the keyswitches on the COP or a slightly-ajar push panel and thinking to themselves... "that looks important... better not touch it or I might get in trouble". The number of times I've opened emergency phone panels and found priority/maintenance/fire service keys just right there in the switches, waiting to be turned...
@Cfomodz
@Cfomodz 3 місяці тому
Easy, just put “Do not turn key” 🤣 on it
@StephenOwen
@StephenOwen 6 років тому
Great job soldiering on through the interruptions!
@kordru
@kordru 4 роки тому
Very good at it too!
@cravenmoorehead5657
@cravenmoorehead5657 2 роки тому
I wish that guy would shut the fuck up jesus!
@caelan5301
@caelan5301 2 роки тому
Back when I was in high school, any time me and my friends wanted to skip class, we would go to the elevator (it had a lock but one of us figured out that we could stick some paper in and make it open) and my buddy had some knowledge about all this, and we would get it in independent service mode and just hide in the elevator until the period ended. I've got fond memories playing smash with my friends in the elevator.
@RaW_Chaos
@RaW_Chaos Рік тому
nice, skipping class and smashing with the homies in an elevator, very classy
@electricimpulsetoprogramming
@electricimpulsetoprogramming Рік тому
@@RaW_Chaos LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@-ncrypt
@-ncrypt 8 місяців тому
@@RaW_Chaosthis deserves so much more than 7 likes 😢
@rchaffer
@rchaffer 7 років тому
These DEFCON talks are rediculously fascinating! Stop killing my productivity!
@sbalogh53
@sbalogh53 6 років тому
I should have been in bed 5 hours ago. It is now 5:40am. FML!
@StopAddingDumbSh.tToYoutube
@StopAddingDumbSh.tToYoutube 5 років тому
ridiculously*
@haass...9065
@haass...9065 Рік тому
@@sbalogh53 same!!
@DeetexSeraphine
@DeetexSeraphine 6 місяців тому
Never (this week) has a comment made by another read so truthful
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 6 років тому
Anti nuisance mode works a little differently in quite a few lifts in Australia. If you press all the floor buttons, they *will* be registered, and the lift will make two stops. If it detects that no one has entered or exited for two stops, it deletes the rest of the calls and becomes idle/ready again, because the controller can reasonably assume that there is no one in it. I thought that implementation was quite clever, because it is possible that many legitimate calls may be punched in at the same time, for example a ton of people get on at one floor, you're standing next to the panel and you're kind enough to ask, "what floor do you guys need?" 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 14, etc etc.
@DataumCats
@DataumCats 5 років тому
it can work that out by knowing it weight. Threeish people got on the car but 7 floors got pressed? yea nah. Car empty and any floor is pressed? yea nah. 15 people get on and 10 floors are pressed? Just fine.
@shepd3
@shepd3 5 років тому
@@DataumCats So fat people get to tamper a little bit more? Being overweight has it's advantages!
@aolson1111
@aolson1111 4 роки тому
@@DataumCats And skinny people won't be able to make it to their floor.
@amyx231
@amyx231 4 роки тому
A Olson Summer camp group enters elevator. They each have rooms on a different floor of the hotel. Multiple floors pressed. Elevator: nope, this one obese person doesn’t need 10 floors.
@CaptainBlagbird
@CaptainBlagbird Рік тому
@@aolson1111 Thus skinny people get skinnier by having to walk a few floors most of the time. xD
@Volvith
@Volvith 5 років тому
About 13 minutes into this talk, i understood why this had to be the last talk at the last day of DEFCON. ... Rule #1: Don't trust people to know what they're doing, people are idiots. You can invent better idiot proofing for anything, but the world will just invent a better idiot.
@GaryCameron780
@GaryCameron780 8 років тому
Pressing the buttons for all the floors in a 34 storey freight elevator will tie it up for 45 minutes. A work mate thought this would be a good idea and nearly got canned. (Said building only has one freight elevator)
@hemi4722
@hemi4722 7 років тому
Gary Cameron haha that's awesome
@SirFrag32
@SirFrag32 6 років тому
Every time I've tried this the system realizes what you're doing after a few floors and clears the panel heh
@xyzshantaram
@xyzshantaram 6 років тому
Pressing the button again will deactivate that destination.
@mrlithium69
@mrlithium69 5 років тому
not always
@AdeptPaladin
@AdeptPaladin 5 років тому
Then his building should use the anti nuisance function that elevators have in order to prevent such asshattery
@licustoms
@licustoms 5 років тому
A family member whom has passed away leaving me with all of their stuff was an elevator repair and installer for a very long time. This was really fascinating to see... and now I know what some of the special tools are that I have. Much appreciated! I have no idea what to do with them but for now I will keep them.
@michaelodonoghue7464
@michaelodonoghue7464 4 роки тому
I was working Security in a Building and whilst travelling in the elevator with the Security Manager asked how often Security Tested the Emergency Phones. His response was that that was covered by the Lift Maintenance Contract. Yes the Circuits were Tested by Lift Maintenance for Operability, but not for Destination of Call. A Week late a Man got trapped in an Elevator for 12 Hours. His Emergency Phone although working was routed to an Answering Service in an Unattended Department. Four Hours after the Man had been rescued from the Elevator, the Security Centre got a Panic Phone Call from the Head of a Department who had just listened to 6 Phone Call from a panicked individual trapped in an Elevator. Next day, Security Personnel were Instructed to Test Emergency Phones Regularly (Daily).
@Al-.-ex
@Al-.-ex 10 місяців тому
Love the very sensible, mature & *emphasised* safety part at the end. Felt like I could trust these guys a lot more with how much they drilled safety into your head the whole way through.
@amyshaw893
@amyshaw893 5 років тому
that show with the guy cutting the elevator cable is called the secret life of machines
@stevewalston7089
@stevewalston7089 5 років тому
Thanks! Watched the program years ago but could not remember the name. Most excellent series.
@pyro4life64
@pyro4life64 4 роки тому
This has to be the most interesting elevator video on here, even as a 20 plus year elevator mechanic I found this video very well done.
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 роки тому
Out of curiosity, did you learn anything from it?
@poohbear01x48
@poohbear01x48 5 років тому
I live in Phoenix and before the news about the keys dropped, it was essentially common knowledge what the fire access code for all gated communities was. Phoenix fire has a security issue for sure.
@NapoleonGelignite
@NapoleonGelignite 5 років тому
Great to see Tim Hunkin on this. Secret life of machines was a great show.
@jformaldehydem
@jformaldehydem 5 років тому
I can confirm that holding the door closed button on an elevator did work on one specific location for me, for at least a year. It was at the library at the university I studied at, and I rarely abused my newfound powers...rarely...But I have never seen it work since. And I don't know how people think it works, but it was clearly a bug in the operating software, that has since been patched (I mean, I DID graduate 16 years ago). The elevator would stop as normal, which was your signal to hit the button, and you'd hear the actuators rapidly cycle to open and then closed, and the elevator would continue on its journey. I can only imagine how crazy this would drive the people on the other side, especially since I assume it would register that the call had been answered and would reset the call flag.
@ErebuBat
@ErebuBat 4 роки тому
jformaldehydem that sounds like the relay logic issues they mentioned.
@linolium4814
@linolium4814 5 років тому
I'm a wheelchair user so elevators are kind of my thing. This talk is really interesting and I learnt a lot. :)
@matthewhall2399
@matthewhall2399 2 роки тому
Learned*
@linolium4814
@linolium4814 2 роки тому
@@matthewhall2399 Sorry English isn't my first language
@cdnbacon2001
@cdnbacon2001 5 років тому
4am and i watched the whole thing. not sure how i got here but as an electrician and former security guard (7 years) i was fascinated.
@SaintNobody
@SaintNobody 8 років тому
My favorite elevator control? No buttons, but a camera. On the top floor of the building, "Control," says they don't know you and asks for your chit number. You go to the top and prove you're supposed to be there. Then, they give you a chit. Four hours later, they recognize you and you just tell them where you want to go and they move you. Second favorite elevator control: Medeco key leading to floor with a surveillance killzone. You identify yourself, even though they know you, then use your OTHER medeco key to obtain access. If you're doings anything like this, bring your written orders to avoid detention.
@peregrinusoblivione4967
@peregrinusoblivione4967 5 років тому
Very cool.
@roswalt1
@roswalt1 4 роки тому
Definitely don't try this in a building that handles government medical claims. You will not have a good day unless you have your "get out of jail" pen test contract with you.
@konzetsu6068
@konzetsu6068 4 роки тому
Been to a condo in London, 6 cars, no call buttons, every elevator call going up was made from the reception desk.
@fdsman
@fdsman 5 років тому
The irony about the elevatorkeys bit is that howard owns the site lmao
@danielr2194
@danielr2194 4 роки тому
fdsman LOL, makes it do much better
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 Рік тому
Are you sure he owns elevatorkeys and not pentestingkeys?
@DownTownDowns
@DownTownDowns 4 роки тому
The people interrupting need to do some elevator-surfing.....and hopefully it goes wrong for them
@baileyhollis4086
@baileyhollis4086 7 років тому
These guys are setting up for one huge heist...
@leavewe
@leavewe 4 роки тому
*hoist
@robertoswalt319
@robertoswalt319 4 роки тому
Why rob some place when you can get paid to do it legally over and over again?
@khhnator
@khhnator 4 роки тому
well they did warn everyone to not use elevators for security
@swine13
@swine13 3 роки тому
@@robertoswalt319 agreed - at a certain point these skills will always pay better and more reliably if done for the blue team (so to speak)
@jamiehanrahan4705
@jamiehanrahan4705 5 років тому
Just FYI - the hydraulic-operated glass elevator on the El Cortez Hotel reached the "Sky Room" on the 15th storey (counting the ground floor, the origin, as the 1st).
@furydeath
@furydeath 7 років тому
43:39 that's a mighty black box xD
@kevinward6077
@kevinward6077 7 років тому
furydeath
@TheSuckerOfTheWorld
@TheSuckerOfTheWorld 7 років тому
You probably couldn't see through it on the actual talk, but here we can! The bitting is 0-3-2-3-4-8
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 7 років тому
Or you can just read it off the key itself, as that's not blacked out.
@CoolMoD521
@CoolMoD521 4 роки тому
I can't believe I watched an hour long video about elevators.
@mutatedpixel8042
@mutatedpixel8042 8 років тому
Super cool! learned a bunch of stuff I didnt know (including the escalator helicopter!)
@robin42
@robin42 Рік тому
One of the best defcon conference I've heard. It was fascinating! Thank you so much
@biggerdog2458
@biggerdog2458 2 роки тому
I appreciate not having to watch any ads on such a long and awesome video!
@smrts
@smrts 5 років тому
4:46 "the highest I've ever seen is eight stories" I work a convention in green bay the Hyatt attached to the Ki Convention center is 8 or 9 stories(can't remember for sure off hand) they have a piston elevator and it is the slowest thing ever.
@firesurfer
@firesurfer 5 років тому
Macy's Herald sq freight elevators go up to 8 or 9th floor. It's hydraulic and can lift entire 40 foot trailers. The tractor stays on the ground. At least they used to, they renovated the store and I don't see the loading docks anymore.
@theenterpriselab9401
@theenterpriselab9401 7 років тому
my favorite defcon talk
@testsubjectism
@testsubjectism 7 років тому
Did anyone else see that you could see the numbers behind the black bars? seems like a ironic oversight
@danmana
@danmana 7 років тому
made me look
@joshuaraydunaway
@joshuaraydunaway 5 років тому
its only on the first slide of state-specific keys
@polyjohn3425
@polyjohn3425 5 років тому
They're just blacked out as a courtesy gesture. The whole point of a lot of this is security, and relying on the secrecy of key bitting as a security measure is atrocious practice. And considering they showed those slides after explaining exactly how they got those numbers and how easy it was, hiding the bit numbers is barely useful. Anyone who wants to figure them out can figure them out quite easily, that's kinda the point of the talk.
@spazmaticaa7989
@spazmaticaa7989 5 років тому
Me: ooh, I interesting video maybe I'll watch 20mins do my chores and come back later. Hour later, This was awesome...
@Finneyyy
@Finneyyy 6 років тому
One of the most informative talks I've ever watched.
@davinaz6885
@davinaz6885 3 роки тому
Its great that the baby theft elevator mode exists. It's also the saddest thing at the same time
@nitricpumps
@nitricpumps 5 років тому
I never thought elevators could be so interesting
@TheEzzran
@TheEzzran 5 років тому
That elevator at around 42:00 would be easy even without the fire key. Just call it, step inside, then wait for someone else to call it to leave and walk out on the next floor. I mean, not as quick as the other way, but you're in.
@elguapo1690
@elguapo1690 5 років тому
Holy shit. That would have scared the management a lot more than this guy with his keys.
@rudolphfulmer1710
@rudolphfulmer1710 4 роки тому
Except the person getting off the elevator would have called it in to security since they only used that back elevator as an exit. It technically could be done but it increases the likelihood of detection exponentially unnecessarily.
@MikoWilson
@MikoWilson 5 років тому
Defcon dude's interrupting talks is pretty old at this point. It's super cringe. Just stopppp.
@lohphat
@lohphat 8 років тому
"Rope" doesn't only mean jute/nylon. When first invented, cables were called wire or steel rope.
@dasstackenblochen9250
@dasstackenblochen9250 5 років тому
I've seen Euro-profile cylinders used in many eleveator keyswitches (even dimple cores and stuff like that), however, the switch panels are always kinda thin -- so destructive access would remain very simple.
@zephyfoxy
@zephyfoxy Рік тому
"We're going to interrupt this talk to make people do shots and then try to end the talk early" I think these organizers had too many shots of their own already...
@nicholas_scott
@nicholas_scott 5 років тому
A trick I've seen on some elevators is if you try to open the door on any particular floor, it will cause wherever the elevator is, to stop and open its doors, briefly.... then close and continue on. Its a terrible design flaw.
@PlatinumTurk3y
@PlatinumTurk3y 5 років тому
Now i have a bit less Hollywood induced crash anxiety whenever I use an elevator
@noone2you622
@noone2you622 7 років тому
One of my favorite talks!
@ogey_elise
@ogey_elise 5 місяців тому
Deviant and Howard are both GOATed.
@dondemarco007
@dondemarco007 5 років тому
One of the best talks I've seen
@JaredJanhsen
@JaredJanhsen 4 роки тому
So many high-rise convention hotels need the full-load bypass feature. I've been in a 23 story hotel in Dallas during a mass exodus from an event and waited over AN HOUR in the hall for an elevator I could hop on with my luggage. The following year at the same hotel and the same event, I just said "fuck-it" and tried the housekeeping elevator which wasn't behind a single locked door. The real bitch was finding my way out of the staff area to leave.
@maritimemisfits3360
@maritimemisfits3360 4 роки тому
I would have just used the stairs rather than wait
@JaredJanhsen
@JaredJanhsen 4 роки тому
@@maritimemisfits3360 not when you're on the 22nd floor and have a full desktop PC to bring down with you
@maritimemisfits3360
@maritimemisfits3360 4 роки тому
@@JaredJanhsen Down is the easy part, desktop pc's don't weigh that much. Any resonably fit person could do the stairs without issue
@JaredJanhsen
@JaredJanhsen 4 роки тому
It wasn't just a desktop. It was a full tower gaming rig plus widescreen monitor plus bag of cables and accessories plus my suitcase packed for eight nights and my snack/beverage cooler.... And the other couple thousand people with the same load out.
@legion162
@legion162 4 роки тому
I thought this was going to be boring af, but watched it all and was pretty interested. Thanks.
@flecom5309
@flecom5309 8 років тому
I'd love more info about that failed mechanical test... link to original video?
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 7 років тому
The clip is from a (1993!) TV series made for Channel 4 and subsequently shown on the Discovery Channel. Called The Secret Life Of Machines. The series was written by Tim Hunkin, and presented by Tim Hunkin and Rex Garrod. Eighteen programmes were made. Here's a direct link to the video on the site: www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/SLOM/0302-The_Lift.html
@FLECOM
@FLECOM 7 років тому
the video of the motor flying off it's mounts? no it's not, I have watched the secret life of machines many times and for sure that isn't from there.. plus it looks like a cell phone video, pretty sure that wasn't around in 1993 ;)
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 7 років тому
I was referring to the opening video clip... It's Tim Hunkin and the link I provided is the correct one...
@----.__
@----.__ 7 років тому
Frank wasn't referring to the opening clip, neither is Flecom. You're off your rails.
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 5 років тому
@@Fifury161 you obviously wrote this before the end. The video being referred to is obviously not that.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 7 років тому
Excellent talk. Thanks. I find this kind of thing fascinating.
@jasonmyneni8605
@jasonmyneni8605 3 роки тому
I’ve been kicked off an elevator while it’s on code blue mode. I also have a code blue key and it’s really cool. However, if someone uses and a code isn’t in progress in the computer, it will activate the code system so doctors (and everyone else who has a key, like me,) can’t drive them around at their will.
@FurryWrecker911
@FurryWrecker911 5 років тому
I woke up today to 3D model and draw. Just chill on a Sunday. I did that with this playing in the background and learned so much about elevators that I was not expecting.
@skilllmatic
@skilllmatic 7 років тому
awesome talk and awesome guys. this is now one of my favorites!
@TheOReport1994
@TheOReport1994 4 роки тому
Started with the Pen testing and now I'm here XD Bloody brilliant!
@pickle7056
@pickle7056 4 роки тому
I've been stuck in a loop for 3 days! Send help! :o
@curtiswaters7415
@curtiswaters7415 5 років тому
Just discovered Deviant and his speeches. What an incredible guy.
@MmeHyraelle
@MmeHyraelle 5 років тому
same and i love him for not being afraid to swear publicly in talks
@Nalianna
@Nalianna 7 років тому
Entertaining, AND safety conscious? awesome!
@LuciferStarr
@LuciferStarr 5 років тому
8:34 It's from "The Secret Life of Machines" which was a quirky, but fascinating program in the 1980s. I don't think they'd get away with a lot of their demos nowadays.
@Graham_Langley
@Graham_Langley 4 роки тому
Chap on the lift was Tim Hunkin.
@HonestAuntyElle
@HonestAuntyElle 5 років тому
Close door hack has worked on exactly 1 elevator that I've tried in Adelaide Australia, I don't remember what type, but it had a custom animation on the digital display, that showed differently
@KanaalMTS
@KanaalMTS 5 років тому
28:10 Schindler's Lift?
@tylorbray
@tylorbray 6 років тому
My favorite talk.
@ninjaofslo
@ninjaofslo 5 років тому
Hehe. Love it. Fire alarm tech. elevator keys will absolutely sell me the set. I work with recalls and unless it’s the FEOK1 I have ran into tons of buildings that never have the key
@joelmulder
@joelmulder 5 років тому
This is amazingly fascinating!
@NoahD123
@NoahD123 8 років тому
good talk
@kalasnikoch
@kalasnikoch 4 роки тому
I really should be sleeping but here i am learning about elevators.
@GrymsArchive
@GrymsArchive 5 років тому
@8:32 To give credit where it's due: Those 2 Gents are Tim Hunkin and Rex Garrod from the 80's Tv Series *The Secret Life of Machines* A Damn fine watch!
@Parassassin
@Parassassin 5 років тому
Please don’t haxor my laptop! Amazing lecture, could watch these guys all day!
@evana4622
@evana4622 8 місяців тому
Awesome video. Great presentation
@pedoublenizzle
@pedoublenizzle 5 років тому
+1 for the elevator clip from Secret Life of Machines
@magin9228
@magin9228 4 роки тому
if an elevator ever told me to get out, i'd stay in just out of curiosity.
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 роки тому
Elevator: There's a fire! Leave the building immediately! You: Hmm, I wonder what happens if I stayed.
@jamisusijarvi646
@jamisusijarvi646 6 років тому
Come to Finland, Otis and Kone (Kone is from Finland) are very common, but locks that we use here are very often Abloy locks
@wheatley6544
@wheatley6544 5 років тому
So, are you saying that security in Finland is tighter, or is it just a different set of keys that are needed?
@symik3
@symik3 7 років тому
Really nice talk.
@DethKount
@DethKount 5 років тому
Surprisingly interesting
@SynapticStatic
@SynapticStatic 4 роки тому
9:00 is from the secret life of machines. Great series if a bit old now.
@SensibleMax
@SensibleMax 4 роки тому
Just what I needed at 2 AM
@jpe1
@jpe1 5 років тому
Sabbath Mode: "It's kind of like hacking God [...] I found a loophole in scripture so I'm smarter than you!" pretty much sums up the Jewish faith:)
@DJzSith
@DJzSith 5 років тому
That was the funniest thing I learned all thay. Never though about solving sabbath day problems before. I can now see a nice market for autonomous cars.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 5 років тому
See the wiki article on "Eruv" for the ultimate way to "legal loophole" your way out of inconvenient holy commandments.
@iglidor
@iglidor 5 років тому
Tyrone: There is a lot of apliances with sabbath mode. For example electric heaters that can be voice activated. Or even saw oven that is "certified" that you can use it on sabbath days so that you switching switches somehow do not count on that device since it is consecrated or whatever. Quite funny example of how people are walking circles around their own scriptures. But as long as it remains harmless, who actualy cares.
@unflexian
@unflexian 5 років тому
@@DJzSith Wether autonomous cars are sabbath worthy or not is a legitimate political issue in israel.
@jpe1
@jpe1 5 років тому
iglidor my Bosch oven has sabbath mode which means that it will automatically set and maintain the oven temp to 85°C (190°F) for the sabbath. My Libeher refrigerator has sabbath mode which means that on the sabbath opening the door does not turn the light on, and the compressor will run at random times rather than as a direct consequence of the interior warming up because the door was opened.
@retnikt1666
@retnikt1666 6 років тому
37:40 to skip new speaker ceremony.
@rudidower
@rudidower 5 років тому
Those old 70's safety ads are really scary. They used to be on late night in the UK.
@arielotx
@arielotx 11 місяців тому
i watches this talked a lot of time , great time on something i didnt know a lot.
@JonathanBoring
@JonathanBoring 4 роки тому
That was worth every minute
@JonTheBrush
@JonTheBrush 5 років тому
08:35 Its Tim Hunkin and Rex Garrod from the Secret Life of Machines
@TheDct88
@TheDct88 8 років тому
i love the name schindlers ... schindlers lifts lol
@eddiebernays514
@eddiebernays514 8 років тому
the elevator in my old apartment building was a Schindler and I always thought of Schindler's list lol
@Nanorisk
@Nanorisk 7 років тому
I guess you guys mean "Schneider", right? It does look like Schindler a bit.
@beyondbeyond1965
@beyondbeyond1965 7 років тому
+Nanorisk Look again 28:16 schindler.com
@GegoXaren
@GegoXaren 7 років тому
"lift" is the standard English word for what in American English is called "elevator".
@morphman86
@morphman86 5 років тому
Most of Europe uses the British English word though, and Schindler is a very popular brand here. Schindler and Otis are the two biggest in Europe. So on most tags you'll see written "Schindler's Lift LLC." or regional variants.
@pythagorasgonzalez7137
@pythagorasgonzalez7137 8 місяців тому
This was dope
@danielaslan512
@danielaslan512 4 роки тому
If there is any pentest left would love one. GOOD LUCK getting the issue fixed
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt
@NIGHTOWL-jf9zt 5 років тому
At 43:39 bitting code is 0-3-2-3-4-8. I cold see thru the black bar. THANKS.
@granskare
@granskare 4 роки тому
when I was in Berlin in the 50's...it was a single person lift that constantly moved
@emka333
@emka333 4 роки тому
You mean a Paternoster? Germany still has some of them today.
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 7 років тому
@42:22 Tell me those are not the actual bittings still in use...
@LiamKarlMitchell
@LiamKarlMitchell 5 років тому
Great talk thanks :)
@amyx231
@amyx231 4 роки тому
Friday: This elevator is needed for other reasons. Please exit. Except you Peter. Peter Parker: Oh okay. ??? Mr. Stark has entered the building.
@ThatGamerBlue
@ThatGamerBlue 3 роки тому
Two hour version of this talk with more stuff and less annoying defcon staff is on Deviant's channel at ukposts.info/have/v-deo/koWne5ysg6KL1qc.html
@Microtonal_Cats
@Microtonal_Cats 4 роки тому
Good talk. I like that the audio quality on these has improved over the years...from horrible to passable. It's not rocket science. Plus, BAD AUDIO IS A HATE CRIME! #BAIAHC
@Chaosfury50
@Chaosfury50 5 років тому
Sometimes when a bunch of people get in the elevator I like to say "Now I know you're all wondering why I've gathered you here today" Or another favorite elevator past time of mine is when at a hotel or casino and the top floors are labeled such as pool (roof) or club or penthouse and someone is asking people what floor to press, I'll go last and gently clear my throat and since it's quiet I'll say penthouse in a whisper as if I'm embarrassed by it amongst the poor
@ScoobyShotU
@ScoobyShotU 5 років тому
They typically require keys in nice hotels or casinos especially.. bad joke
@Sichelschurke
@Sichelschurke 10 місяців тому
Haha had to see this first and then continue the Darknet Diaries Podcast.
@Kydaser
@Kydaser 5 років тому
Yes, it is 2am
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