Michael Egnor: The Evidence against Materialism - Science Uprising Expert Interviews

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In this bonus interview footage from Science Uprising, neurosurgeon Michael Egnor discusses the evidence against materialism and explains how materialism undercuts rather than supports genuine science. Be sure to visit scienceuprising.com/ to find more videos and explore related articles and books.
Michael Egnor, MD (from Columbia University), neurosurgeon and professor of neurological surgery at Stony Brook University. Dr. Egnor is renowned for his work in pediatric neurosurgery. See www.thesun.co.uk/news/2516312....
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Science Uprising
Well-known scientists have been preaching a materialistic worldview rather than presenting the public with all the evidence. We are here to change that. The objective scientific evidence does not prove our universe is blind and purposeless. It does not show we are simply meat machines. It does not prove that evolutionary mechanisms can completely account for the diversity of life on earth. This is what THEY want you to think. Think for yourself and make an informed decision.
Are you ready? The uprising has begun.
Visit the Science Uprising website at scienceuprising.com/ to find more videos and explore related articles and books. You can also find out more information about the people interviewed in this episode.

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@harrytd
@harrytd 2 роки тому
Astonishingly well delivered. No distracting background music, measured speech, deep domain knowledge and compellingly marshalled arguments backed with facts. If all subjects were addressed like this, we'd be in much better shape.
@DougShoeBushcraft
@DougShoeBushcraft 2 роки тому
We can't be "deluded that we have minds." A mind is required to have delusions. Bricks, rocks, and other inanimate objects can't be deluded.
@Papa-dopoulos
@Papa-dopoulos Рік тому
@All About Britain Ask any eight-year-old with a laser pointer.
@deniss2623
@deniss2623 Рік тому
Hey, Dougie the Shoe! Thanks for that excellent conclusion.
@gordonicus4637
@gordonicus4637 3 місяці тому
One would think this to be common sense. 😄
@george5120
@george5120 4 роки тому
Nice to experience an education video like this, at UKposts, that does not play background music or sound effects, as if I need to be "entertained" while listening to an expert talk.
@paultrosclair1775
@paultrosclair1775 2 роки тому
Man is more than body and mind. Man is a spirit that possesses a soul / mind and lives in a body
@mrroboto680
@mrroboto680 3 роки тому
The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence. - Nikola Tesla
@robertbirt4254
@robertbirt4254 Рік тому
Sadly, that's probably why they don't want to. Too much progress would be bad for their materialist sociopolitical dogma.
@Diablo3364
@Diablo3364 Рік тому
No because that isn't how science works!!! Science requires that you have proof and can verify your proof and said proof has to be able to replicated. We can't study non physical things what you want us to study souls.
@Skyfoogle
@Skyfoogle Рік тому
non-physical does not mean non-material. he was referring to electromagnetism. science, by the nature of science, cannot study what we cannot interact with.
@boxelder9167
@boxelder9167 9 місяців тому
@@Skyfoogle- Is it possible that we can still observe what we cannot interact with? If I wanted to do a study on spontaneous healing for example I could still gather evidence for this phenomenon from the before and after. From there I could survey if there was any common correlations such as the person receiving prayer or having a particular spiritual experience. This phenomenon is quite common and has been observed and medically documented. There a person could examine if they can rule out coincidence for all or part of their sample. Perhaps a criterion for what constitutes a miracle might be established. For example if the event had a low probability and was accompanied by an intelligence or purpose. If for example you were praying for protection as a home invader entered your house and then was struck by a meteorite in the head while trying to take aim to shoot you. Still the question remains “Is that odd or is that God?” Perhaps there’s a statistical significance to justify the use of prayer. But we’re talking about actually doing the investigation. Is the purist materialist going to do actual science and try to disprove that materialism is all there is? Probably not even though their own minds and thoughts are not just a domino effect down the line of the Big Bang. Otherwise why would they think arguing with Creationism makes any difference since the Creationist is nothing more than a product of time and chance outside of their control set into motion by an explosion of time, energy and matter. But how the materialist believes borrows from the Creationist belief in free will. Since we can’t even have Materialism without Intelligent Design and the concept of mind it’s impossible to account for everything starting from pure naturalistic causes. So what purpose does it serve to force ourselves to try and understand everything through naturalistic logic when it’s insane to presuppose that the mind we use to understand the universe is itself an accident?
@PortmanRd
@PortmanRd 8 місяців тому
So we just blindly follow Creationist dogma?
@voiceofREASONS
@voiceofREASONS 3 роки тому
The reality is that if you are rigid materialist, you can't do good science. LOVE THIS. Keep fighting people, we are beginning to win the information war.
@marcusaurelius9123
@marcusaurelius9123 10 місяців тому
One man's opinion. Atheism is increasing throughout the world so don't get too excited
@Racingirl911
@Racingirl911 4 роки тому
I love that my son sent this video to me! Listening/watching this video just once is just not enough. It deserves to be watched/listened to several times. The first time around, my brain was so busy just taking in what he was saying. The second and third time I watched/listened to this video my mind began to process what he was saying. This is fascinating subject! Many thanks to those who made, and shared this video. I may be 60+ y/o, but I still love to learn! We have SO much more to learn about the human brain! I want to continue to learn up until the day the Lord calls me home!
@ianjohnson4987
@ianjohnson4987 4 роки тому
This is one of those rare interviews that I watch again and take notes. Thank for posting.
@zimbabwe_twinnedwithanfield
@zimbabwe_twinnedwithanfield 4 роки тому
That free wont concept totally makes sense.. It is our duty to resist Free will is a burden at times
@andrewheffel928
@andrewheffel928 4 роки тому
I just loved this video. "Behind the universe is a mind, a grand mind that is reflected in the way the universe works." What we see is not all there is.
@sampleowner6677
@sampleowner6677 2 роки тому
I've been intrigued by the out of body experiences people have with near death experiences. Their consciousness leaves their bodies and functions independently of their brain activity. That tells me our consciousness is not generated by our brains.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 Рік тому
Yes. NDE's that have included veridical perception, point toward and underline the fact that we are not our brains and that consciousness survives death and goes somewhere else after biological death. Some heaven/ dimension or reality is where we seem to travel after physical death of the body.
@romainvicta9793
@romainvicta9793 Рік тому
@@philosopher0076 I'm curious about #3 where Mr. Egnor says there are no "intellectual seizures," however, there are cases of "acquired savant syndrome" where a person develops profound mathematical or musical abilities following a brain injury.
@anonymous-lc6xv
@anonymous-lc6xv 5 місяців тому
​@@romainvicta9793true
@Chadthefatherbear
@Chadthefatherbear 4 роки тому
This is insane. This guy talks about it in such an easy to understand way it almost makes it sound obvious. Very profound stuff that most people are more than likely not attempting to integrate into their being.
@digital1083
@digital1083 7 місяців тому
Yeah, agree. Actually, it is obvious..."simple for the simple".
@davidjellyman7006
@davidjellyman7006 7 місяців тому
he explains how certain things the brain does are incredibly well localized, he then says certain things the brain does are less obviously well localized (which isn't 'quite true as electrical stimulation of small parts of the brain can make you feel emotion for one example) and says this is evidence for Dualism. Think about it, this doesn't prove anything, let allow our minds are made out of something bizarre that is immaterial and we have no evidence for.
@Leslie_Crich
@Leslie_Crich 4 місяці тому
​@@davidjellyman7006 You betray a materialistic mindset when you say, “… our minds are made out of something bizarre that is immaterial …” The point of this presentation is that our minds are not “made out of” anything. Thatʼs what “immaterial” means. “Immaterial” is not some other type of material; it means “no material involved.”
@Bux7777
@Bux7777 4 роки тому
18:55 "There's no sign of any brain activity when you decide not to comply"
@curtbrackenrich7883
@curtbrackenrich7883 4 роки тому
Incredible intellect on display here, and further evidence that we are not just a collection of cells evolved from a mud-puddle. I only wish the camera person was as good at their job during this interview, the poor Dr is jumping all over the frame because it was apparently filmed with a phone being held by someone. Please consider a $20 portable camera stand, it would do wonders and can be kept in a vehicle or even a briefcase. If me pointing out the shaky camera work makes this harder to watch, just listen to it, the interview works just as well in audio-only form. I do appreciate the work of the Discovery Institute and I don't mean to be critical, but please make an effort to do better for viewers in the future.
@joostpalucki6560
@joostpalucki6560 2 роки тому
the fact that humans can experience quantum mechanics with for example the douple gap experiment is evidence that there is more to this world than just matter
@brianmi40
@brianmi40 2 роки тому
As CLEARLY documented, there IS anti-matter. What there ISN'T is anything "paranormal", "supernatural", "spiritual" or "miraculous", which is why NEVER A PENNY of this money has ever been handed out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranormal
@susannluckmann7705
@susannluckmann7705 Рік тому
Absolutly.
@patricksmith7674
@patricksmith7674 4 роки тому
Brilliant research Thank God for brilliant Scientists like you!
@RelentlessHomesteading
@RelentlessHomesteading 2 роки тому
Thankyou - I was taking copious notes on this lecture - Michael Egnor makes numerous points about research that shows a differentiation between mind and the matter of the brain. Then speaks of the clearly dualist implications. Very well thought out - and thought provoking. It was the materialistic issues (e.g., first cause, abiogenesis, failings of natural selection to provide a mechanism for macroevolution, massive coverups and poor science, etc. ) which led me to check out the dualist camp of an intelligent designer. And I would like to learn at a deeper level these clear lines of reasoning in regard to mind, intentionality and free will which also point to the same conclusion. A proper worldview should provide the best explanation in all areas - as truth does not contradict itself.
@alpetkiewicz6805
@alpetkiewicz6805 3 роки тому
The implications are staggering! 😱 This was a great analysis! 💯
@yoda9824
@yoda9824 4 роки тому
Matter cannot generate information, only a mind can do it. We receive information 24/7 , there is a universal mind that connects everything
@dimbulb23
@dimbulb23 4 роки тому
I receive no information from your post, I guess the universal mind has blown a fuse.
@kderules
@kderules 4 роки тому
That you noted it proves you did.
@REDPUMPERNICKEL
@REDPUMPERNICKEL 4 роки тому
Why is it so difficult to understand that information lives in the abstract world of process and process is simply the behavior of matter? That mind isn't matter is abundantly obvious but that mind is the process of matter should seem equally obvious. Mind is abstract, immaterial. So is process but process is "of" matter so the assertion that mind is of matter in the same way should not cause any confusion. How it happens, well, that takes a pretty thick book to even begin to explain. Here's one that takes a pretty good shot at it... "Godel, Escher, Bach". Read it and you'll be in pretty good shape for understanding how.
@1974jrod
@1974jrod 4 роки тому
I agree, but you wont convince an evolutionary Biologists
@globalciro3078
@globalciro3078 4 роки тому
I feel like my brain would have lit the lamps of an MRI machine had I watched this during an MRI procedure and my mind would’ve expected it to be so! Great vid!
@darrenchapman1961
@darrenchapman1961 2 роки тому
I never believed in materialism i am so glad i stuck to that belief.
@God_is_in_the_details
@God_is_in_the_details 4 роки тому
if materialism is true then you can have nothing to say about justice, other than what you can say with your fists
@maync1
@maync1 3 роки тому
Wonderful lecture and conclusion. Materialism cannot explain awareness And, yes, purpose is the driver of everything and us all. I am sorry for all the Dawkins' of this world not to see the light.
@callmeishmael3031
@callmeishmael3031 4 роки тому
In a universe of nothing but matter, nothing matters.
@steaveg
@steaveg 2 роки тому
This video gave me chills. This is life-changing, world-altering stuff. I need a minute or 60.
@hwd71
@hwd71 4 роки тому
Sir John Eccles said that the brain is a computer that a ghost can operate. [Edit] Sam Harris take note.
@angelofwrath1206
@angelofwrath1206 4 роки тому
I recommend Dr. Edward Fesers "Philosophy of Mind", he's a great modern thomistic philosopher & in his book he adresses all the alternative metaphysics.
@evilchristianconservative3419
@evilchristianconservative3419 4 роки тому
The experiment that described the evidence for the existence of Free Will (or Free Won't) is extremely interesting to those of us interested in Christian Philosophy/Theology, Specifically Molinism vs. Calvinism.
@ScarlettOHare1
@ScarlettOHare1 4 роки тому
I wish I had free will -- I could lose 40 pounds! LOL! JK. Actually, come to think, I need Free Won't.... Blessings, E.C.
@traditionalcatholic4275
@traditionalcatholic4275 4 роки тому
YES!!!! I love that part! For me, the evidence he shares quite literally substantiates the verse from the Bible, Love the Lord thy GOD with all thy Soul all thy Heart and all Thy MIND! Also the last 2 sections clearly edify this point =) Cheers!
@patri1689
@patri1689 4 роки тому
Just two minutes into this and I keeping saying 'yes this is so good and so true' and I can't wait to listen the whole segment. It came at a right time when I need to write my essay. Thank you for uploading it !
@fordbrett7072
@fordbrett7072 3 роки тому
There once was a young man who said: "God - I think it exceedingly odd - That the sycamore tree - Continues to be - When there's no one about in the quad. - Dear Sir: Your astonishment's odd. - I AM always about in the quad, - and that's why the tree - continues to be, - observed by, - yours faithfully God”
@danhaycraft9321
@danhaycraft9321 4 роки тому
I might add another component to this: a person's "Will." Let me explain through my own example. This is not vanity, this is truth. With everything that's happened to me medically: only some examples being a brain injury, the resulting surgeries, and in other life events such as Hurricane Katrina, many people are surprised I'm still sane, (including me). And, I've also suffered from epilepsy--partial frustrating seizures, not full harmful seizures. A few years ago, doctors tried to diagnose where the seizures came from by putting me in a hospital, decreasing my meds, and seeing what might happen. And, they found the seizures--but, according to the brain patterns, the seizures should have knocked me out. But, again, just partial seizures. Still sane, only partial seizures--the reason is Me. My willpower must be separate from my brain. Otherwise I'd at least be insane and probably dead.
@HopeBloomMusic
@HopeBloomMusic 4 роки тому
This is an incredible presentation! Thank you!
@coachmarc2002
@coachmarc2002 3 роки тому
Biologist's have tried to explain biology without the concept of purpose and they can't do it. Wow. That little nugget is priceless.
@lindsaygordonsmith7
@lindsaygordonsmith7 3 роки тому
We are wonderfully made in the image of our Creator: Body, Soul & Spirit and Mind, Will & Emotion!
@MarkMcCluney
@MarkMcCluney 4 роки тому
So refreshing to listen to clear thought simply expressed, by someone who doesn't feel the necessity to impress the listener. And yet he is mighty impressive! Thank you for sharing.
@Wtfahhhfak
@Wtfahhhfak 2 роки тому
People with catastrophic brain damage are still self aware. They’re trapped in their inert body. That’s the most horrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
@barbudania
@barbudania 3 роки тому
Wow, I've seen so many videos of Closer to Truth that investigates the mind and counciousness and Dr. Egnor was way more brilliant that so many experts on the subject. I would really like to see an interview with Kuhn and Egnor. And I would really like to see Dan Dennet's opinions on these topics. I doubt his theory can get an even bit close to explain these topics.
@Hhjhfu247
@Hhjhfu247 2 роки тому
Fact that at some point of history people fell for materialistic worldview is the biggest embarassment of humankind
@Cry4Tanelorn
@Cry4Tanelorn 4 роки тому
Absolutely amazing. Thanks for producing this video
@fromeveryting29
@fromeveryting29 4 роки тому
The thing is this: believing in matter is believing in something we can never know. Like Kant pointed out, we can never experience a thing in itself, ONLY EVER our own PERCEPTION of it. You can only ever experience your own consciousness. Your experiences of matter is in fact only your experience of consciousness. So the only thing we can really know is experience. Believing in matter is a bit like superstition.
@alpetkiewicz6805
@alpetkiewicz6805 3 роки тому
I keep watching this over and over! Its amazing. 💯❤️
@jbtechcon7434
@jbtechcon7434 4 роки тому
A really excellent interview. Thank you so much for posting this.
@robertecarpenter
@robertecarpenter 3 роки тому
Michael: This was wonderful ... most helpful. Thank you so much for elucidating a lot of gray areas. I humbly submit a couple of ideas that you probably already understand, but which are fundamental to this lecture. #1: We are a tripartite being created in God's image. He is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We are spirit soul and body. These are separate and distinct entities. The inspired Scripture says, He formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul (Genesis 2:7). We must understand that we are a soul, we have a spirit, and we live in a body, (our spirit is God conscious, our soul is self conscious, and our body is world conscious) which brings me to point #2: When we die our spirit and soul leave the body (this explains your surgeon friends inability to physically destroy the mind which is part of the soul). Here are defining verses. A. James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. B. Luke 8:54-55 But He ... took her by the hand and called, saying, "Little girl, arise." Then her spirit returned, and she arose immediately. C: 1 Kings 17:21-22 And he ... cried unto the Lord, and said, "O Lord my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again". And the Lord heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived. this is the extremely shortened version. More is available if you wish. God bless you. Rob Carpenter
@fightingback7185
@fightingback7185 3 роки тому
This is possibly the most interesting video I've ever seen. Thank you so much for sharing
@onestepaway3232
@onestepaway3232 4 роки тому
Many nuero scientists are understanding that mind and brain are separate. Ebon Alexander another surgeon /scientists who had a NDE confirms that the mind continues beyond death. Amazing testimony. Shalom
@spamm0145
@spamm0145 2 роки тому
Absolutely fascinating interview, so telling of UKposts that it has less than 200K views at the time of this comment - brilliant stuff
@missaleebounty
@missaleebounty 4 роки тому
I was an athiest recently but after doing my own personal research on conciousness I do believe that we at least have a soul whether it be quantum or other. I believe that perhaps there is such a thing as an invisible matter that may account for our soul and or the invisible process of thought.
@gerardmoloney433
@gerardmoloney433 3 місяці тому
If you read the Bible for yourself you will learn the truth about everthing. It tells you not only did the universe have a beginning, it tells you who made it and how He made it. Everything detectable is made from that which is undetectable (Scientists call it nothing 😂) Jesus spoke everything into existence, that's why they can't find anything. Prophecy proves the divinity of Jesus Christ. For 8 prophecies to happen by chance is mathematically impossible. The Old Testament prophesied over 300 events that Jesus fulfilled in His lifetime. Only God knows the end from the beginning. The Bible tells you that and the prophecies prove that. So no more proof needed. A simple example of the truth of the Bible that everyone can understand and no deny is, there are mountains, valleys, springs and pathways under the sea. How could anyone know that 4500 years ago. The man who discovered them read the Bible and believed. All Bible prophecies come to pass exactly as prophesied and that is historical FACT. Maranatha
@spaceman884
@spaceman884 4 роки тому
Wow his point of teleology was brilliant. Nothing more needs to be said!
@seaknightvirchow8131
@seaknightvirchow8131 2 роки тому
This is such a lucid informative talk. Some of these experiments I had never heard of. Materialism is anti knowledge and unscientific.
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 Рік тому
Mind (the internal soul, syntropy) is dual to matter (the external soul, entropy) -- Descartes or Plato's divided line. Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy). Homology is dual to co-homology -- mathematics. Reducing the number of dimensions or states is a syntropic process -- homology, hypervolumes become volumes which become surfaces or planes, planes become lines and lines become points which are zero dimensional. Increasing the number of dimensions or states is an entropic process -- co-homology, points become lines, lines become planes, planes become volumes and volumes become hypervolumes. Syntropy (prediction) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics. From a converging, convex or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics. All observers have a localized or syntropic perspective -- a focused attention. My syntropy is your entropy and your syntropy is my entropy -- duality. Duality creates reality. "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
@jagdtiger9287
@jagdtiger9287 Рік тому
Ahh, but evolutionists/atheists need materialism or thier theories become obsolete.
@naziatariq8484
@naziatariq8484 Рік тому
@@jagdtiger9287 No. Science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. Science is by definition materialistic.
@solideogloria5553
@solideogloria5553 Рік тому
and the ending was brilliant : what's the point of trying to make sense of no sense(no design, no purpose, no free will, no destiny )?
@rizdekd3912
@rizdekd3912 Рік тому
Because we're programmed to do it just like all many other animals higher who navigate their environment using their minds to make decisions that aid in their survival and often their comfort.
@LoveYourNeighbour.
@LoveYourNeighbour. 4 роки тому
WOW, It's great to see a new video of Dr. Michael Egnor! I've been enjoying his easy to understand articles for a WHILE now! This is truly TOP NOTCH stuff! Thank you so much to all of you!!!
@nojuice457
@nojuice457 Рік тому
i wish i could talk the this guy for an hour or two.
@waitingandwatching9328
@waitingandwatching9328 3 роки тому
All that I can say to this is ..hallelujah!!!!... awesome stuff. Thanks Michael Egnor.
@traditionalcatholic4275
@traditionalcatholic4275 4 роки тому
This was FASCINATING !!!!! I LOVE IT !!!!! More like this Please!
@markfrank0924
@markfrank0924 3 роки тому
Dr Egnor is so interesting and easy to listen to, his voice, coordinated facial expression and mannerism merge to produce a very interesting and easily listened to interview. I would like to learn more, any recommendations that support the belief materialism of being at least insufficient and does not explain the mind?
@stevenrego1434
@stevenrego1434 4 роки тому
What about dementia or Alzheimer's? How does that reconcile with the points made here? These individuals change a ton. What's the argument for the soul if these diseases can change the person so much? I'm a Christian theist and I'm genuinely curious.
@mikebetts2046
@mikebetts2046 4 роки тому
Maybe that is why he kept on stressing the concept of dualism; meaning that our mind is the result of two things. The physical brain and then something else embedded within the brain (our soul? Our true intellect?).
@t.mshrews6708
@t.mshrews6708 4 роки тому
My understanding on these concepts is that the brain could be looked at more as a receiver than a producer. If you damage a radio, it may not work, or static, etc but the signal itself is still out there and fine... Just can't be picked up properly by the radio when it's damaged. So brain damage would do the same.. The signal would not be received properly any more and therefore... Well, static..
@allissoftinside
@allissoftinside 2 роки тому
never heard of the intellectual seizure argument it's hella amazing. also im new to this channel. love it!
@anthonypolonkay2681
@anthonypolonkay2681 2 роки тому
Niether have I. It's a very good point to consider.
@1coolcontractor
@1coolcontractor 4 роки тому
This is an amazing video. What's with all the thumbs down? Atheists I presume. I love this mans perspective. Thanks Michael!
@SergiuGothic
@SergiuGothic 4 роки тому
The part with "free won't" is amazingly funny 😄 Great video
@patri1689
@patri1689 4 роки тому
Is it free-want or free-won't. The caption show the latter but I think it is the former. What do you think??
@alixetal2399
@alixetal2399 4 роки тому
Thank you! I've been reading Dr. Egnors articles all through school.
@dco8886
@dco8886 4 роки тому
What an awesome video! So fascinating, exciting and scary. To have a soul and yet it being so limited by our functional bodies. Nice how some of the scientists he mentioned changed their mind based on their observations. Which is what science is.
@rogercarrico4975
@rogercarrico4975 4 роки тому
Just Wow!! Very impressive! Enjoyed this very much. Going to think about it. Probably watch it again. It definitely shines another bright light on creation!
@downwithputinsaveukraine1313
@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 2 роки тому
I suspect both idealism and materialism are misnomers. Probabilistic waves can be considered as early stage material. Materialism may be contradicted because it appears there's a very good chance consciousness is actually quantum... perhaps in a way that would've baffled Einstein. The long story short, materialism, in the traditional view, is at least incomplete but idealism may similarly need to be modified, as most things are only useful when in solid, material form. It may be apt to suggest each view represents a stage of existence. Dualism is probably the most accurate theory.
@Toyos-yk3ri
@Toyos-yk3ri 4 роки тому
Excellent discussion I am glad I come across this segment. Thank you discovery science.
@danielevans5864
@danielevans5864 3 роки тому
The free-will vs free-won't comparison is fascinating to me experientially in my life. My free-will has been delayed for a few periods of time I was taking triazolam for sleep. The next day after adenosine receptor antagonist (caffeine) consumption I would find myself wanting to perform an action but realized it would take me a full 1-2 seconds after deciding that I would engage. Also, the free-won't is a concept taught to baseball players in that we teach them to conceptualize and then engage every pitch as worthy of swinging at...but to then decide to not swing when their brain recognizes the pitch as unhittable or out of the strike-zone.
@owencampbell4947
@owencampbell4947 4 роки тому
The more you are free to think the more you find out. OC. We have a mentality problem, and as long as it remains ignored the longer it will take to find answers.
@RoscoeKane
@RoscoeKane 4 роки тому
Language is localized. Generally speaking, specific tasks that humans have done since there have been humans, those tasks have dedicated regions so they can be done more efficiently. Tasks that people do that are not usually necessary to survive, tasks where efficiency isn't crucial, those tend to be spread out and to use whatever brain resources are available to do those things. If higher intellectual functions are not functions of the brain, but functions of a consciousness outside of the brain, can we develop an experiment to test this claim? Maybe we measure people's performance on some highly intellectual task, give random people a drug that could inhibit brain function, or just alcohol, and give a control group a drug that might make them feel strange but that does not inhibit brain function, and see if the two groups have comparable shifts in performance. What do you think would happen?
@DAVOinIN
@DAVOinIN 4 роки тому
Oh look.. someone who actually understands how science works. First comment out of 100.
@NThTwS
@NThTwS 4 роки тому
So in other words people must become experiment subjects to satisfy your ego. There are already many experiments done on humans, why do you need even more? What will that change? If you use drugs, the main functions of brain are going to trash. Any drug paralyzes the brain and keeps you in a state of dream, halusination etc. That has been done in previous years, from people that did not respect human rights, and you call for another similar experiment, instead of reading the conclusions of these people conclusions. Where or when will this experimental stage will stop? When will your ego is going to be satisfied? Why do you people want to be cruel to other people? How about if I'd take you and experiment on you, would you like to be my experiment subject thus, to make my own conclusions? Are you people mad on something. or someone?
@bobblacka918
@bobblacka918 4 роки тому
Great video. Let's have more like this.
@winstonbarquez9538
@winstonbarquez9538 2 роки тому
We cannot see the human mind, but we know that it exists by its effects. The same could be said of the universal mind, which we call God.
@Laskarides
@Laskarides 4 роки тому
Great but also simple, thank you!
@user-nj5dm2ug3f
@user-nj5dm2ug3f 4 роки тому
Fantastic video!
@ThePowermountain
@ThePowermountain Рік тому
So amazing!
@Simonelectricfl
@Simonelectricfl 4 роки тому
Wouldn't you need to have a mind in order for it to become diluted enough you to think you have a mind?
@titaniumtiara4573
@titaniumtiara4573 4 роки тому
Soooo interestng thank you. Explains some things.
@cindyjencks5848
@cindyjencks5848 4 роки тому
Our purpose is beyond our understanding We see the basics and assume the purpose but really don't comprehend its overall purpose. When we are free from the constraints of the physical brain the essence of our being will be revealed.
@e-Multiverse
@e-Multiverse 4 роки тому
excellent .... Thank you. This is so nicely stated I had to share it several places at FB
@edgarvalderrama1143
@edgarvalderrama1143 4 роки тому
I figure every concrete/material "thing" has an "abstract" or immaterial level. Example; writing on a page and its meaning.
@streameant
@streameant 4 роки тому
meaning is all decoded inside our brains.
@traditionalcatholic4275
@traditionalcatholic4275 4 роки тому
That would be complete minimization of the human experience IMHO.
@t-streetmusicstudio6749
@t-streetmusicstudio6749 4 роки тому
Wonderful video. So interesting. Thank you
@JMichael2x2
@JMichael2x2 4 роки тому
Excellent presentation
@richardbrown9198
@richardbrown9198 4 роки тому
While I am not a materialist in general, I do have to point out that lobotomies can and do destroy a persons personality, sense of self, and reasoning abilities. The pre-frontal cortex is "damaged" by a needle inserted to the side of the eye and produces drastic changes to mental states. How is this not a case for Materialism?
@adg1017
@adg1017 4 роки тому
Absolutely fascinating
@HopeBloomMusic
@HopeBloomMusic 4 роки тому
Hallelujah! God is good! Thank you, Jesus!
@dennisb1698
@dennisb1698 4 роки тому
This is amazing!
@StanleyKowalski.
@StanleyKowalski. 4 роки тому
years ago i heard materialistic view of #5, thank you for clarifying for me years later
@truth-be-told
@truth-be-told 3 роки тому
‘All roads lead to God’ - putting together these wonderful talks on materialism and ‘the God hypothesis’ by Dr Steve Mayer, it all makes sense.
@JPvwvr6
@JPvwvr6 2 роки тому
Fabulous. Thank you for this content!!!!
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 Рік тому
Mind (the internal soul, syntropy) is dual to matter (the external soul, entropy) -- Descartes or Plato's divided line. Teleological physics (syntropy) is dual to non-teleological physics (entropy). Homology is dual to co-homology -- mathematics. Reducing the number of dimensions or states is a syntropic process -- in homology, hypervolumes become volumes which become surfaces or planes, planes become lines and lines become points which are zero dimensional. Increasing the number of dimensions or states is an entropic process -- in co-homology, points become lines, lines become planes, planes become volumes and volumes become hypervolumes. Syntropy (prediction) is dual to increasing entropy -- the 4th law of thermodynamics. From a converging, convex or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics. All observers have a localized or syntropic perspective -- a focused attention. My syntropy is your entropy and your syntropy is my entropy -- duality. Duality creates reality. "Always two there are" -- Yoda.
@davidjackson6152
@davidjackson6152 4 роки тому
Very interesting and informative. Real science.
@spacedave2000
@spacedave2000 4 роки тому
Deep! Very much enjoyed this!
@davefordham14
@davefordham14 Рік тому
I have two problems with the mind and brain duality. The first is dementia. People with severe forms of it basically lose their memories. If we are to believe that mind is separate from the brain, we have to also assume the memory of our experiences should be accessible by our minds at all times. But clearly we not only forget things as a matter of course but diseases like dementia guarantee that we forget even the most basic things like who our closest relatives are. And sometimes it comes and goes. Imaging shows parts of the brain having deteriorated or eroded. This points to evidence that mind and brain aren't separate. I don't really know how to reconcile that. If anyone has an answer I'd be interested. The other conundrum is general anaesthesia. I've been under, as most people have at one time or another, and I remember NOTHING. No music, no dreams, no sensations, no out of body experience - absolutely nothing at all. Scientists don't actually know at the deepest level how anaesthesia actually works but only that it does work and this is a big problem. Where does the mind go if it's separate? Does it lie dormant until the brain comes back online? This suggests it can't function without the brain which means it's not really separate. If anyone has an answer, please feel free to reply.
@JimCastleberry
@JimCastleberry Рік тому
Nobody argues that the brain is irrelevant to thought or our physical expression of thought. Quite the opposite. Brain damage, like a broken computer can severely limit the minds ability (will/intentions/thoughts) to communicate or access physically stored information. However, a perfectly functioning computer won't be sufficient to act willfully, intend or know about anything. That requires a mind. Same for a brain. It's a conduit, not the source of higher ordered intelligence. It can store information, but cannot be the source of information. If your brain is 'turned off' (disabled) by anesthesia, you cannot store memories in the brain.
@rizdekd3912
@rizdekd3912 Рік тому
@@JimCastleberry But what IS the mind? What makes the 'mind' able to BE a mind and make 'free' will decisions that a physical entity can't? That to me is the bugaboo in the whole issue. People are quick with the, 'oh computers can't have free will and the physical can't produce a mind.' But so far...except the religious types, no one has an explanation for how the mind (that is not physical) can 'think' and have 'free will.' In fact no one has been able to explain how anything can have free will except to assert it without explanation. And if someone can assert it without explanation. then I am just as justified to assert that it is physical even if I can't explain it.
@philosopher0076
@philosopher0076 Рік тому
If you have a television in a room and smash it with a hammer or jab a needle through some of its vital circuitry, the picture and perhaps sound will be affected...blurred, jagged, crooked, fuzzed, distorted, unclear, incomplete. Yet, is the movie signal which the television received and delivered on the screen and through the speakers fuzzy, distorted, incomplete? No, it is in tact 100%. In fact, even if you unplugged the television from the power receptacle on the wall and the screen went blank and the sound stopped, did the movie being transmitted through the air stop or become incomplete? No. The brain is a filter for consciousness and not the creator of consciousness. In fact, there have been cases of children born without a brain...yet they still smiled, reacted to other people and demonstrated a " personality " and emotion. Further, there have been endless documented cases in medical research of "Terminal Lucidity ". Patients with end stage Alzheimer's as one example have been in hospitals on their deathbed and suddenly sat up, became totally lucid, began to speak coherently and name every nurse, family member and friend standing around their bed, and then spoke of relatives long passed dead who came to " see them " and said they would be returning soon to take them " home ". These people then layed back down and often within hours or late the same night, passed away quietly. FYI.
@calousthagopian9963
@calousthagopian9963 2 роки тому
Amazing. Thank you
@anotherangrymonkey7435
@anotherangrymonkey7435 3 роки тому
Absolutely...Beautiful!
@samrowbotham8914
@samrowbotham8914 4 роки тому
He is incorrect about the findings and conclusion of Roger Sperry's split-brain research. They found that a second self does emerge and the British consciousness research Anthony Peake writes about it in his books, in fact, Sperry's research seemed to inspire Anthony's title of his second book: www.anthonypeake.com/product/the-daemon-a-guide-to-your-extraordinary-secret-self/
@digital1083
@digital1083 7 місяців тому
As an aside, I like the hand held camera and subtle zooms. Nice cinematography!
@johnnowakowski4062
@johnnowakowski4062 4 роки тому
Excellent discourse!...
@athleticgrandma7830
@athleticgrandma7830 4 роки тому
Very profound, thank you.
@digimikeh
@digimikeh 2 роки тому
A: Please sir, push the button to experiment... B: Yes, (B pushes, brain on chemical reactions) A: Please sir, push the button to experiment... C: No, I dont want to.. (no brain chemical reactions) What does this means?... Brain does not thinks by itself.. Good observation Mr. Egnor.
@bijoythewimp2854
@bijoythewimp2854 3 роки тому
Once I had the same conversation with an Atheist. He quote Neil deGrasse Tyson "Consciousness is not real" . (An Astrophysicist)
@johnryan2193
@johnryan2193 7 місяців тому
A brilliant study of the mystery of existence, i hope there is a book to follow.
@danieldoucet8687
@danieldoucet8687 4 роки тому
When most picture the mind_ they see the brain. The mind is not a thing it is an activity.
@dimbulb23
@dimbulb23 4 роки тому
An activity of a brain.
@maekong2010
@maekong2010 4 роки тому
Daniel Doucet : I see it as a byproduct.
@traditionalcatholic4275
@traditionalcatholic4275 4 роки тому
Yes!!!!
@silveriorebelo8495
@silveriorebelo8495 4 роки тому
you really don't understand: the 'mind' is your councious activity in the perspective of your own experience as a subject. You cannot take away from the mind your subjective perspective as a sentient being and a thinker
@StephenPaulKing
@StephenPaulKing 4 роки тому
How could this be explained?
@museprof
@museprof 4 роки тому
I don't necessarily hold to materialism, but, while I find these examples fascinating, they're not very convincing to me. There are plausible alternative explanations that would still need to be ruled out. For example, although higher thought is not localizable to one region of the brain, it may be distributed to neurons throughout the brain; it doesn't have to be the result of something immaterial.
@josuejumalon
@josuejumalon 4 роки тому
have you done you statement in a lab and testing it?
@richardlefaive1944
@richardlefaive1944 4 роки тому
I was thinking something similar. That is it possible that higher thought IS ensconced in material aspects of our brains and physiology but ... we just do not yet have the; understanding, knowledge, Skills, and measurement capability to monitor those activities? This is Sam Harris' refutation of the dualist argument, that these higher "thoughts" are indeed material but ... we just don't have the technical capability of proving it. While this next statement of course proves nothing ... my gut tells me Harris is incorrect and the Aristotleans are right.Effectively, this video discussion is similar to others and dancing around the same concepts as those tackling the nature of consciousness. There are certain VERY important aspects of "being" that are not material and are simply never going to be explainable entirely by rational \ scientific means.
@yoso585
@yoso585 4 роки тому
Joshua Veltman The intelligence of the body has been overlooked. Not even considered. Perhaps I missed it.
@ash9259
@ash9259 4 роки тому
Then what about the example of brain dead people being capable of responding to higher thought and even being capable of doing simple math? If they are vegatables, brain dead completely, even if it was localized neural networks, they wouldn't be able to maintain the complex order required to do higher thinking if the individuals brain effeciency was comparable to a cabbage. I would you ask if you had paused the video at the first example or if you went through them all. The hemispherical cutting in half was also quite a profound experiment, where higher thinking isn't impaired even if the brains were split in half. How then are the two brains communicating?
@spyroninja
@spyroninja 4 роки тому
If it's distributed, how can it remain in tact after a surgery like severing the corpus callosum?
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