Doug is the type of guy who farts in his wallet and calls it "Gas money"

The problem is that even if you have a warranty, the headache of sending a car to the shop and getting it back is really annoying. I’m surprised high end car owners put up with it

This is almost a documentary on every car Hoovie has owned or wants to own lol

Doug looking for that Countach "bumper to wing" warranty..................

Doug using the CGT as a table for cookies is so real

12:55, the maintenance cost on a F1 Mclaren with it just sitting in a garage with all of the timed repairs (fuel tank, tyres, belts, plugs, etc) was estimated to be over $100,000 a year. Despite that, it is a 17 million dollar car

This is where Kennan truly shines. Just having a friendly conversation about cars. Keep it up, guys 👍👍👍

The real question is, does Doug actually eat those cookies, and why always chocolate chip?

You guys have incredible chemistry together. I felt like you all were so enthralled with shared experiences that you forgot all about the audience LOL

I would love a version of this with cars where an upgrade fixes the reliability

While it is nowhere near as exclusive and expensive, if RX-8's were reliable they would cost at least double. Such a fun car to drive and experience. Not fast in a straight line but delightful balance in the corners.

The Ford GT sitting in the other garage..."Did you forget about me, Daddy Doug?"

Kennan is honestly growing on me, just as Doug said he would. These discussion videos are a fun addition to the reviews. I honestly have more intrest in these now compared to the reviews.

I actually am with Doug on that last question. I think enthusiasts like to see people keep cars going, even if they’re not special. Seeing anything car on the road for longer than the manufacturer ever intended is always a cool thing to see. So when you couple that with a car that you KNOW is a total PITA to keep going, you respect it that labor of love so much more. And in a weird way, when those cars are actually working correctly, you root for it. I have an older Ferrari, and while it’s a fairly reliable car, you are always worried in the back of your mind “what’s going to happen next, and how much is it going to cost me?” But I work on it myself, and when things go wrong, I solve the problem, and it’s rewarding. And when nothing goes wrong on a drive, you’re proud that your repairs all worked. I think when your car has bad days, it feels more human and less like a product. And for some of us, maintaining the car (or the relationship with it) is part of the fun. Another way to think about it is if you don’t have to work to keep a car going, then it’s just becomes a boring product. But when you have to keep working at a car even after owning it, the chase for “owning it” never ends. It’s like the car can break up with you any minute… In other words, sometimes toxic relationships are the most exciting ones to have. Lol

Doug’s point at the end about the unreliability of classic supercars being part of the mystique is spot on. There is absolutely something to be said for people who use those cars as intended and without fear. Its like when you see a super limited production car being driven hard on track or doing burnouts, not kept in a garage for investment. Alfa Romeos and classic Ferraris are the best examples of this. Those cars are beloved because they take so much time and effort to keep going. You bong with them through the struggles and failures. Its why no one looks at Porsche as a brand of passion, but precision. Porsches don’t break down, won’t have you mad at them, won’t lash out at you. But in that they lack a degree of passion that Italian cars have. Theres no reward in taming a mild beast

I ran a Land Rover service department during the era you reference, and, yea.....they are basically (usually) mobile dumpster fires. But, the reliability issue is very fixable: buy 4 of them, and work out an arrangement with the repair shop to just leave one parked there. This improves your chances of driving a Landy with confidence is merely comical.....

The look on Doug’s face when Kennan says “Sonorous bellow”. Can’t handle the eloquence here

The Jaguar XJ12C was arguably the most beautiful coupe ever made and many didn't make it home from the dealership. Notorious. I still want one. Even though a warranty isn't possible, and LS Swap certainly is. Fragility problem SOLVED, plus bonus supercar performance!

I once bought a car from a used car dealer that blew up leaving the lot! The guy didn't want to take it back, but that attitude didn't last too long...

This made me think that a live version with additional edited version uploaded later too, WITH an AUDIENCE like a car meet, cars and coffee or something like that, would be AWESOME! Something to thing about while you experiment with the channel.

The E60 M5 is perfect for people who like working on their cars. It's a niche car in that sense, you have to be technical enough to do the maintenance yourself AND do stuff like pirate and understand ISTA, but it's a great car otherwise. I've put 25k on mine since I bought it 2 1/2 years ago, I drive it like it's supposed to be driven, and when you do that all the little issues work their way to the surface so you can really get ahead of it. I love it, I bought it for 12K in the height of the used car depression during the covid hysteria, and I've got another 12 in it. But that's me working on it most of the time.

My favourite car in this category will be Lotus Esprit. I love all the generations of Esprit from the S1 of James Bond Submarine to the S4 with V8 TT.

I had a girlfriend whose dad bought her a P38 Range Rover for like $3k in 2016 and she and her friends decided it was a good idea to drive it from Salt Lake City to Moab, Utah in the middle of July. I warned them that it may in fact catch on fire and they all laughed at me. It caught on fire less than halfway through the 4 hour trek 😂

I haven’t heard that 5:50 Evil Doug Laugh since the good old Hummer H1 driving over things days 😂 ITS BEEN YEARS! Haha

This is why i love corvettes so much. Cheap (compared to others), easy to maintain, and reliable.

Doug with his brown butter chocolate chip cookie addiction on full display is a sight to see. A man of quality

For me it’s a VW Passat wagon w8 manual. I would do unspeakable things for that car with a warranty. It’s such a stupid car but also so cool and so rare, I love them so much

I always thought the Maserati Granturismo was the most beautiful car ever, even better than the DB9. Now I am at a point in life where I could afford one of the two if I wanted, however I'm now also wise to know why I wouldn't.

These are great Doug! I enjoy listening to these while I work. I'm sure you've heard this before, but a podcast wouldn't be the worst idea....

You and Kennan are a great team. Thanks for the fantastic videos :)

Great talk, great video. I agree with Kennan that most of the people have no idea about problems mentioned (super) cars might have.

Just did a 1600km (1000 mile) journey to visit a friend in the Snowy Mountains in Australia. We were going to take the modern Santa Fe, but our mechanic said the tyres were not the best (and on potentially icy roads) . Couldn't get new tyres on with a day's notice, so we jumped in the 1995 80 Series LandCruiser, didn't skip a beat. Plus it's got more room 👌

This was so much fun to watch. I love all of Dougs content but this is now in my top 5. Lol’d several times watching. The list & and amusing discussion is so relatable if you love cars. This is an upload I’ll come back to many times😎You’ll never see this but Mr. Demuro thank you for making my days better all the time!

I love this format! Keep them coming!!

These have become my favorite videos. I listen to them when I’m on a drive and it makes the time go quickly.

I really like your newer videos with Keenan Doug. It's nice to see you both discussing cars, you both certainly know your stuff. I do prefer your regular content, but adding the extra videos with Keenan is a good thing in my opinion :)

I agree that the first gen NSX is a car you buy when you want to use it outside of warranty. (Disclaimer: I own one, have driven it across the country repeatedly, and would do so again in a heartbeat.) Go get one, Kennan! Now you guys need to do a video of cars you’d keep outside of warranty 🤣

My step-dad owned a 2007 E60 M5 Manual, custom ordered. That car was such a pleasure to drive, but man it had issues; he used the living crap out of the warranty. He missed getting an extended warranty by a few days, and he paid the price. After 15k in fixes in a single year, he sold it and got an M4, and vowed to never own a BMW without a warranty again.

The Bentley Arnage is a great choice for this topic.

Love these types of videos brodie. Keep grinding soldier

God those cookies are leaning SO precariously

I definitely agree with Doug at the end. There are certain cars that do have more of a mystical aura because of their unreliability. But this only shows through when we see immaculate examples that are well used despite their problems, because that tells us that whoever owns these cars is extremely dedicated and has the money to keep them running. And that is something that's attainable for very few people and even then it doesn't happen very often, making that experience something special.

I love my p38 and it's actually pretty reliable after i did a little work on it. And the air suspension was deleted so i don't need to worry about that. I take it to work everyday.

We need a series of Doug EV-swapping his favorite unreliable cars. Afterall now he can afford it and the swaps aren't even that crazy money considering how reliable they get afterwards in comparison.

My dad used to have a bentley arnage and his was not unreliable. It was well looked after and came with a full bentley history. The cost of replacing anything was insane though. Thankfully we owned our own 2nd hand car dealership and did repairs so we did our own work. My Maserati 4200 was super unreliable. Within the first 3 months it needed a new clutch. Thankfully in the UK you can buy warrenty on 2nd hand cars. This proved useful with the maserati.

My sister came up with something and asked me to post her comment.... "Some crazy men like high-maintenance women as well!!" 😂😂😂😂

I actually agree with Doug's point that some of those car's unreliability makes them more special. Because of that, they're rare and when we actually see 355s and e60s in the wild it's because someone is crazy and stupid enough to put up with the maintenance. Personally, those cars will always be unobtainable but so cool!

Doug is the type of guy to stack cookies on his Carrera GT and film a video. This, by the way, is the epitome of Zero F*cks Given!

The supercharged Range Rovers, Neighbor's wife had one and it was good looking and sounded great when it worked. They ended up dumping it to carvana for cheap and getting a chevy trax.

Definitely get the NSX. I forget how good they are, then I drive mine again and fall in love again... every time. But, to Doug's point, they are kind of "too good", maybe even "boring", which somehow makes it less of an experience when I use it. But there is definitely something nice to having a reliable, beautiful car in the garage.

I would love to do a Bentley Arnage T full resto-mod and pop an LS motor in there . BUT, aside from the motor/drivetrain, it would be all updated Bentley style. I absolutely love the look and feel of that car. 👍🏻😎👍🏻

Really enjoyed this video! As a Brit, I was completely unsurprised each and every time another British car made the list! I’ve always suspected that all of our cars are finished on a Friday afternoon about 20 minutes before knocking off time.

I’ve been loving the “talking” content, your takes are always interesting and your guests/new host are great too Keep up the work Doug team

I look forward to these discussion videos more than the car reviews! Keep them coming!

Hoovie should be a consultant on this video.

No Doug, I loved those cars before I knew how dificult to own they are. I would NOT want any of them now that I know they break often. If I knew they were quality and I wouldn't have to have any of them in the shop for more than an oil change each year, then I would still want them again.

Hey Doug! I am looking to buy a first car soon. I want something that is practical/cheap/reliable or easily repaired. As it will be my ”learning to drive car”. Maybe that is a video idea? List a few cars? What would you buy used? What are the common misstakes with a first car buy?

Gonna add another good one: W12 Phaeton. These videos are great btw, Kennan is hilarious

Great stuff! I had a P38….needed to hot wire a cable to open the windows because the BECM was shot. Almost nothing worked on it, but I still had a very serious argument with my wife who wanted me to sell it. Sorry to say but….it’s gone! And now that I have the means, I really want another one! Reliability issues or not, they’re the next big thing in Land Rover land, in my opinion…

so much passion in one video. Perfection.

my addition to the list would be a vw passat W8. it'd make a great daily or reasonable weird car as a manual wagon. but some of those parts and reoccurring issues were expensive. the one i had would kill the thermostat sensor on every thermostat installed, where the sensor couldnt be replaced on its own.

I have had my E60 M5 for 7 years now, 1 owner car bought from BMW Park Lane with 35K miles...it's now on 85K and it's only been a weekend car. More importantly as I bought it as a BMW Approved car and to this day I still have a BMW warranty on it. It's got a custom genuine Akrapovic exhaust, Eventuri carbon intakes and a prototype Eventuri full carbon plenum...it is absolutely unreal to drive and knowing I have a warranty gives me so much piece of mind as I can enjoy the car as it was intended with zero compromises. In many ways (sound especially) I love it more than my Lamborghini Huracan as that V10 whilst being incredible just doesn't have the banshee-like F1 scream of the M5 despite having a higher redline. An absolute legend of a car and easily the best M5 ever and one of the best cars of all time. A true 4 door supercar.

That's cool. Doug nailed this format with Kenan and Alanis. Keep it up!

My P38 must have been built on a Tuesday, as it's been reliable for 150k miles. It's experienced well-known issues, like air suspension failures (replaced twice under warranty!), and the heater control valve, but it's surprisingly easy to maintain if one has a little mechanical ability, and its issues and repairs are well documented online. As long as I drive mine and keep the battery healthy, it takes care of me. Mostly!

I’m now on my second V10 BMW and can confirm, it is the best sounding (production) BMW of all time. Here’s what I would recommend: 1. Get one with a manual, or budget for a manual swap (when the SMG eventually takes a dump, and it will). It will solve half of your issues. 2. Either buy one which has had the rod bearings done or budget $2.5-3k for the job and it’ll give you peace of mind for the engine. 3. Put aside $5k for random Vanos / throttle actuators / starter problems. That’s it, hardly Ferrari maintenance money, as all of these are one time costs, not recurring costs. Obviously if you sell it within a year - it’ll suck, but keep it 3-5 years and you’re guaranteed to LOL in every tunnel, have fun driving and spread these costs. Highly recommend buying one while you can still get them cheap! 💪👍

Can you do like a video with your favorite model from every car brand? Also maybe with orphan brands like Eagle or Pontiac

Can you please do a review of a p38 Range Rover. I’ve been waiting and hoping you will do one.

Loved this video. Nice job!

So, my ex boss bought a 1994 Range Rover P38A, 4.6 L, petrol, 4-speed automatic, dirt cheap around 2017 or 2018, it was for a company car, we collectively told him the car was a piece of junk. The car was full of luxuries (the high end modification), most of which didn't work, and some of which never managed to work, even after ugodly amount hours in the shop, the fancy pneumatic suspension was swapped out for regular one, and the steering broke on whim mostly while someone was driving it on the highway, the car had GPL, which didn't work most of the time and you had to own a petrol station to drive it otherwise, it ran like 20 liters per 100 km on petrol. We never managed to drive this piece of trash for more than a week, before send it back for repairs. As far as I remember this car is currently not in moving condition and is rusting in a garage somewhere, as it should.

I've always thought an EV conversion would make the perfect Lagonda. You'd have to dump the electronics too, of course, but damn, that's a beautiful car.

I'm obsessed with these kind of videos idk why

A fun pastime is watching Doug (over a period of years) get more and more unabashedly DOUG. Dude doesn't really filter anything, anymore. Watch his earlier stuff and he was so...contained. Now he's like, HERE'S MY TRUTH, INTERNET -- ALL OF IT. I'm here for it.

The original Volkswagen Touareg V10 TDI... the engine barely fits in the engine compartment, needed a special engine lift to fix, most Voks mechanics wouldn't touch it. They are actually fairly reliable, but when something goes wrong, or you just need maintenance, $$$ look out.

Kennan is a great addition to the channel

I love how "Doug eats a cookie" is its own chapter 😅

One of the best videos I’ve watched all year. I laughed my ass off. Doug eating a cookie and just having a blast. Love it.

The only vehicle I felt guilty about selling in my automotive career was a P38 Range Rover. I worked at a large reputable dealership and we took one in trade. It was in great shape and well maintained. I got a phone call about the car from an interested buyer. I went out and played with all of the switches and everything seemed to work fine. They were going to come down a couple of hours later to look at it. About an hour before the appointment I went to get it washed and the air suspension, 3 windows and ac weren't working. I was hoping that when they looked at it they would say no. They showed up and everything worked perfectly. I even told them about the issues I had experienced. They didn't buy it that day. However, a couple of days later they decided to buy it. I went out and the same issues plus a couple of more were present. When they showed up I told them about my opinion and everything worked fine for them. I was sure this was a car I'd get phone calls everyday for the rest of my life about something being broken. I talked to them a half a dozen times after they took delivery and they were happy as the day is long.

I think it’s absolutely part of the vehicle’s mystique. Ones who can afford them, are also able to afford the maintenance

doug just straight waking up and not even showering before these videos lmao

Don't mention the cookies. If you mention the cookies, you're newly maintained/repaired finicky car will most certainly breakdown on you today. You'll need that AA Yellow recovery vehicle to come collect you and your money-pit. So whatever you do… Don't Mention the Cookies!

So glad you mentioned the p38, I have always felt that if the Discovery 1 & 2 were reliable they would be 2x as valuable as a comparable condition 80 series.

I think the Vector W8 should have been on this list.

I tend to forget Doug is like ten years younger than me. He has so much goofy dad energy!

Love this format. I can only dream of driving most of these cars. When I got my e46 M3, the dealer had the V10 M5….glad I didn’t get that one LOL

Doug is right, the Ferrari that could break down or has quarks is what gives it soul

That could be an idea for your next video like this, *Sportscars and Supercars that are easy to own*

If Е60 М5 isn’t there this list is pointless

My family had a Range Rover under warranty when I was in high school- we got it at a high discount because my dad had originally leased a Discovery and it had a catastrophic engine failure.

My 355 is the most reliable car I have(the rest are more modern and German). When I bought it, I did the heads and everything else while the engine was out. They typically do not implode like an e90 m3, 996, or 997(use both 997.1&997.2-bore scoring).

E60 M5 is the number one vehicle that should be on this list

Douge, please share your cookies with kennan and Alanis 😊 I love too see them.

Maseratis from the early 90s when DeTomaso owned the Company is a great source for Cars you would like to buy with a warranty.

Both, great lists. Thanks for the video.

I just purchased an all in warranty with VW, for my VW golf GTE, like 5 weeks ago. Today, my gearbox decided to absolutely shit the bed. About to see how good the warranty is hahaha

The Countach is way more reliable than the Diablo. Jay Leno has said his Countach is reliable and Hoovie certainly has had a far better experience with his than he had with his Diablo. And at least none of the vintage Lambos had to have an engine-out timing belt service lol! Unlike Ferraris!

I bought an Audi Q5 it's a beautiful SUV inside and out. That being said, I bought it knowing that 5 years or so down the road it'll become a maintenance nightmare; so I bought a really good warranty to cover those expenses.

For me it would be a 2002 Overfinch L322 580 S, the early L322’s were a headache but they look so good, especially for that era and still look incredible today!

@Doug, more of these unreliable car summaries please & a few with the most reliable ones. Cheers to what you and Kennan do.

I liked the way you did the cars & bids ad before. You just blew by a century hearse😅😂

I love how there's a bunch of exotic cars and then suddenly the E60 M5 shows up. I used to own that car, and it deserves it's reputation. I still tell stories of the maintenance costing me thousands within just a few months of owning it. It still wasn't fixed after sinking 5k into it. I will never buy another BMW again because of that one.