Why You Need a Power Meter and Which Power Meters Are the Best on the Market

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Dylan Johnson

Dylan Johnson

3 роки тому

Power meters have revolutionized training for cyclists and here's why. I also give you my recommendation as a cycling coach on which power meters to buy.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 473
@DylanJohnsonCycling
@DylanJohnsonCycling 3 роки тому
Now is the time to start thinking about your training for 2021. Science based training plans available here: www.trainingpeaks.com/coach/dylanjohnsontraining#trainingplans
@jaredfontaine2002
@jaredfontaine2002 3 роки тому
4iiii? Peter Sagan is using it lol
@gopackpdx
@gopackpdx 3 роки тому
dylan, thanks for all your videos. i am loving the 6 hour training plan i bought at training peaks that you designed. keep up the good work.
@JamesHuxford
@JamesHuxford 3 роки тому
Let me know when BHD has a training plan we can download
@alpinethreadworks
@alpinethreadworks 3 роки тому
Dylan, Thank you for the great content. I'm going to try your training plans this year. I used Trainer Road last year and liked it except that it did not incorporate weigh training (which I do and just 'added it in'). Anyway, my question before I buy your plans are: How do I execute the cycling portion of the plan? Trainer Road of course has it's app that guides one through the workout... Thank for your time. Neil.
@walkerstalker4494
@walkerstalker4494 3 роки тому
I have assioma pm pedals and Garmin Vector 3,both tested on all of my bikes and sadly for assioma accuracy with the Vector 3 are the same and Vector 3 can take more beating and it will still work, with assioma isn't good bump in to it, because after on small bump in to sidewalk they, the left pedal wasn't working and I couldn't get new under warranty. ,so the only thing assioma is better, lighter weight and price, everything else is not better in some segments is even worse . So they might be best for you or this video is sponsored so you have to say whatever they want it. Quarq pm I have on my new Sworks Tarmac sl7 P. Sagan edt.it came with 4iii,but I changed it , but I still prefer pm pedals assioma on Trek Emonda slr 9 2019 and Vector 3 pm pedals on Scott foil 10 di2 2018 with lots of upgrades and honestly I sold my Sworks Venge 2020 and keep my foil 10, btw Venge is overrated and like everything from Specialized Sworks overpriced, I'm glad that my team is sponsored by Specialized, same is with Tarmac sl7 just another overpriced bike with stupid disc breaks, I still prefer rim breaks. We Slovenians are cycling and ultra running nation, as you can see in last 3 years. POGI aka Pogačar Tadej when he train he never use power meter and cycling computer, also Rogla aka Roglič Primož, so I guess we use that because it's cool and because we will never be pro cyclists. This video honestly was just waist of time. I can see you are young, I'm over 40 and cycling is 26 years, so I understand why you youngsters need all those gadgets, most of don't know how to listen to their bodies, I learn that from ultra running. So go for a run, no power meters, no speed and cadence sensors, even GPS multi sport watch is just another piece of equipment you don't need. Ride if you are good all those tech crap is unnecessary.
@31.8mm
@31.8mm 3 роки тому
*thinking to get a power meter *looking at the price *thinking to get a new bike instead
@metamurph
@metamurph 3 роки тому
“Don’t buy upgrades, ride up grades” - Eddy Merckx -- but be smart, use a Power Meter so you can "measure upgrades" - DJ.
@Ih8GoogleandApple
@Ih8GoogleandApple 3 роки тому
Everyone needs a power meter to know how inferior they really are compared to Filipo Ganna!
@StephenAndrichuk
@StephenAndrichuk 3 роки тому
Who are the 5 best coaches of all time? Think about it. Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan, because he spits hot fire.
@facediaper09
@facediaper09 3 роки тому
If he recommended my company's products on his videos I'd make sure there'd be a huge box of free shit getting Fed Ex'd to his door!!!
@bewimotos
@bewimotos 3 роки тому
chapelle skit?
@Mbtharp1
@Mbtharp1 3 роки тому
Underrated comment. Deserves to be pinned
@jacklauren9359
@jacklauren9359 3 роки тому
The scientific coach is too young to get this joke 😂😂😂
@thecyclingfactor8055
@thecyclingfactor8055 3 роки тому
Idk man BHD is for sure up there
@guzz95
@guzz95 3 роки тому
Since getting a power meter, it has absolutely made me a better climber. I can keep my power on check, make sure I don’t end up in a ditch with cramps!!! LOL
@wigancyclist8913
@wigancyclist8913 3 роки тому
sounds like your new power meter is inhibiting your performance. Beast mode rules LOL
@sw6493
@sw6493 3 роки тому
Love my Faveros. Good price and accurate.
@mib7483
@mib7483 3 роки тому
I have been using my Faveros for a year now without any problems. They are awesome.
@cshigley
@cshigley 3 роки тому
Same here- I’ve been using them all this year and they are invaluable, especially when hitting long climbs. I’m terrible at estimating how much power I’m putting out, and now there is no guesswork- stay just below redline and keep cranking!
@davidkaplan5517
@davidkaplan5517 3 роки тому
I like them too but I think they read higher than my wahoo kickr
@GMacYo
@GMacYo 3 роки тому
Great research as always, and a timely subject. Now to find a training plan. Thank you Dylan.
@RGCastro7
@RGCastro7 3 роки тому
Top quality content, as usual. Thank you for sharing these insights, Dylan.
@njm3211
@njm3211 3 роки тому
I've been quite pleased with my Stages crank based meters. Quite sufficient for my modest needs. They have led to a significant improvement to my power output over the last couple of years and serve as the ultimate reality check on one's capabilities.
@y.r.191
@y.r.191 3 роки тому
Recently started following your channel and watching your videos; i seldomly comment on videos but: Gotta admit that your work is great - you put time and energy into research and actually compare factors that matter unlike many other tuber's that just open boxes and compare Aero Wheels... Keep up the good work, big thumbs up! Y.R.
@pe3nut946
@pe3nut946 3 роки тому
Been looking at power upgrade for a while now and the Favero pedals especially. I think watching this video has made my decision final. Great video 👍 thanks
@MichaelHarrison-bj3et
@MichaelHarrison-bj3et 3 роки тому
Your recommendations are spot on Dylan!
@leebackus9875
@leebackus9875 2 роки тому
As always thanks for great information. I find your site to be highly valuable. Merry Christmas.
@wkwong80
@wkwong80 3 роки тому
I agree with your Duo recommendation. I’ve been using them for a couple of years now. Rock solid.
@tbpom1003
@tbpom1003 3 роки тому
Hey really well explained! keep up the good work!!
@pistax0
@pistax0 3 роки тому
Hey Dylan, you mentioned about different sustained powers at different time durations (aka power curve). Maybe a video idea would be to explain how to train targeting different zones over the power curve. Thanks and stay safe!
@waisinglee1509
@waisinglee1509 3 роки тому
I LOVE that pro tip at 1:07!
@Princecaspin
@Princecaspin 3 роки тому
Love your videos! You should make one about the main types of workouts there are and when you should be doing them in a training cycle
@michaelevans797
@michaelevans797 3 роки тому
Thanks Dylan, as always very intuitive advice 👍
@canningsimon
@canningsimon 3 роки тому
Very interesting presentation of the possible metrics of effort. They all have strengths and weaknesses. RPE for example has to be learnt, and requires a level of intuition that is developed over time. It is completely free of course, can be used in any sport, and is entirely based on the individual. The same goes for NR although one does need a hr monitor; the wrist based ones are wildly inaccurate, and an individual needs to have (a coach) or the ability to read their own data and establish their own zones. One also has to consider what training protocols they are going to follow. Power meters are, from a personal perspective as good as the others however they have the same parameters as the others. If you are fatigued for example, and try riding to your power zone, you could well be overdoing it. With so many metrics, it is easy to get caught up in tech and lose sight of our built in "power meter".
@secretagent86
@secretagent86 3 роки тому
you really have an excellent style and scientific knowledge which is valuable! please keep it up (yes i subscribed)
@Mmalebogo
@Mmalebogo 3 роки тому
Straight to the point and I agree with the view on the two power meter brands, not only because I use both, but because they turn to make sense most of the time. I also don't struggle to connect them to my computer, no outage. The price is tricky but reasonable
@robertandyjustus
@robertandyjustus 3 роки тому
Thanks D-man. Very good vid. I'm on the hunt for a PM now...
@austinbench110
@austinbench110 3 роки тому
Great video! Best cycling training channel on UKposts
@poochie8208
@poochie8208 3 роки тому
Great advice, after 10+ years using HRM I got a powermeter 2 years ago and saw that my interval sessions had always been front heavy with a significant drop during the second part of the interval, HR would climb as expected, but power would always drop. Now I can sustain a given effort across the entire duration of the interval. Wish I'd bought the power meter a year earlier instead of the carbon wheels. Have been using the Power2max Ngeco, spider based system in my bikes and have not had an issue yet. Really good in terms of price/quality. GPlama and DCrainmaker have great reviews on most powermeters out there. Meanwhile we can keep waiting for the IQsquare to start shipping, should be another 3 years.
@RichardMigneron
@RichardMigneron 3 роки тому
Got a Giant Power Pro with my Giant as an add-on when I bought the bike, very reliable. It's based on the Pioneer Power Meter.
@jimmalone5851
@jimmalone5851 3 роки тому
Thanks Dylan ! I'm using Training Peaks and my coach can't do anything without power numbers. I too am using Favero Assioma single sided pedals and I like them a lot. I have converted mine to mtn bike cleats through the conversion on U-tube. I switch these pedals around between 3 different bikes, so they are very handy for this reason. And they are accurate enough for me. I'm not a pro, just a 69yo senior athlete trying to beat other seniors :)
@joelblatt2787
@joelblatt2787 3 роки тому
Quarq power meter user as of 15 months ago; works extremely well. As mentioned, power numbers will vary based upon weight. Therefore, I've decided as of this video to lock in my weight at 145, which is was setting for majority of summer (Strava) segments. My objective is year over year personal comparisons, since I'm just slightly well-adjusted enough to not compete with power numbers of professional cyclists. As always, good video.
@cfernaed
@cfernaed 3 роки тому
Great video. Valuable information. Thanks
@KOMHuntTV
@KOMHuntTV 3 роки тому
5:55 I started a 4.2mile Hill Climb at 1400watts... It didn’t end well 😂😂
@hebrews11vs5
@hebrews11vs5 3 роки тому
4.2 mile hill. Man, that's super long.
@KOMHuntTV
@KOMHuntTV 3 роки тому
@@hebrews11vs5 Yeah, it's a great local Hill. Porlock Hill (2 routes. 2miles 10% and the other 4miles at 5% so at least we have options haha)
@hebrews11vs5
@hebrews11vs5 3 роки тому
@@KOMHuntTV great options. I got one by me, just over 1 mile, 11% I think would be the average grade. I wouldn't be surprised if it's up to 16% in spots. Eswatini. They call it the mountain kingdom. So there is probably more but I have yet to find them. I checked out your channel. Very cool. I love a Kom hunt myself.
@KOMHuntTV
@KOMHuntTV 3 роки тому
@@hebrews11vs5 Ooooof that's a nice hill! haha Thank you... I started the channel in lockdown as a bit of fun... initially just a tiktok that someone wanted me to share on UKposts so they could see it. It's been a fun journey ever since. Only issue is once I started filming and editing it didn't leave much time to ride my bike hahaha!
@murf03
@murf03 Рік тому
Dylan, Awesome video as always. Would you say there is a change in your assessment of the power meters you analyzed 2 years ago vs what is available today? Would you make the same recommendations?
@silverbullitt24
@silverbullitt24 3 роки тому
Have both power meters mentioned. Quarq XX1 is a workhorse on MTB. It’s the bread and butter of most of my riding but the Favero is great in a pinch
@GiorgioCoppolaCycling
@GiorgioCoppolaCycling 3 роки тому
Literally can’t live without a power meter for training... Got one on all my bikes 😝 Love the Quarq easy to set up and use 👌
@facediaper09
@facediaper09 3 роки тому
I always learn something after watching my favorite UKposts cycling professor, Mr Dylan!!! Just when I was feeling like I know everything already. Can you do another lesson on transitioning into base miles combined w/specific gym work for the winter? #LarginalGains 😂
@waynesmith4589
@waynesmith4589 3 роки тому
I've been using Favero Assioma for a year , very reliable and thankfully idiot proof , very easy to switch from one bike to the next just remember to clean and grease every time , if you're taking longer than 2 minutes to change the pedals over you're doing something badly wrong !! another great video Dylan .
@dpstrial
@dpstrial 3 роки тому
The Assiomas are great pedals, better than PowerTap and Garmin.
@waynesmith4589
@waynesmith4589 3 роки тому
@@dpstrial I agree
@joomzb
@joomzb 3 роки тому
I ran Assioma Duos for a couple of years. Great, reliable units. Until I rode gravel, and the master pedal failed (probably due to a crack and water ingress). I'd definitely get them for road use again, but probably not for gravel. Can still use the slave pedal in FulGaz as the app has a setting to double power. Kind of annoying you can't configure the slave pedal as a Uno
@simsimmer250
@simsimmer250 3 роки тому
@@joomzb hi, my left pedal failed too. How does the slave work in FulGaz? I’ll have a look at that setting, does it need to be in Bluetooth? Cheers
@arrowflicker
@arrowflicker 3 роки тому
I love the Assioma pedal! Problem was they only lasted 1 month past warranty. Left one went first and the right went when I put the new left on. It’s almost like they were meant to go as soon as warranty ran out! They are the best pedal power meter though. They are not bulky and are centered just like regular pedals unlike Garmin and power tap.
@WowRixter
@WowRixter 3 роки тому
I love my Assioma Duo PM. If you use a Garmin the app also shows all sorts of interesting data related to L/R balance, pedal offset , etc when riding with the Duo's
@LarsRR
@LarsRR 3 роки тому
Hello @Dylan Johnson, I am a big fan of your videos! With off-season now well underway for much of the northern hemisphere, I would love to see a video on nutrition for the off-season. With weight training being a very important factor in the off season and when looking for strength gains, I was wondering whether a kind of “winter bulk” would actually be a worthwhile consideration. I am not talking an epic bulk, where you gain dozens of pounds of low quality mass, but a controlled slight gain in weight to support strength gain and aid with recovery. In strength training something like this is very common, while I couldn’t find many cyclists doing this. Would be awesome to here your opinion on this.
@akatgif
@akatgif 3 роки тому
Well done mate. Thank you for a simple and easy to understand presentation. Not sounding like a pretentious cycling trainer using unnecessary jargon
@leeseoWestport
@leeseoWestport 3 роки тому
Such good points! I use to confuse thinking I was getting fitter doing an endurance (z2 in 5 zone model) since my HR was lower for given power VERSUS fatigue
@newbarker523
@newbarker523 3 роки тому
I use Garmin Vector 3s (single sided). Had them for a year and they've been good. £380 (Great British pounds). Batteries are two LR44s and seem to get through them pretty quickly. Pedals are great. Swap them between bikes quickly and easily.
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja 3 роки тому
my 4iiii crank based pm has been great and excellent value if you're on a budget
@NCSWIC17
@NCSWIC17 Місяць тому
Power2max NGeco user here. I've had mine for 6 years and it's been flawless!
@KA-mi7ji
@KA-mi7ji 3 роки тому
As always good content Dylan- thank you! Would be interesting to know, why you went with the non Shimano chainrings on your GRX setup. I always got the notion that it's best to stick to Shimano rings on a Shimano group. Is Quarqs Dfour less reliable/consistent than their 5-bolt PM? Would be really helpful if you could comment on that!
@petep
@petep 3 роки тому
Would be interesting to see any research on how single-sided power meters might change the L/R balance if you ride to power a lot. Single-sided spindle-based power meters are generally nicer looking and have more chainring options, which is useful for gravel and do-it-all non-racing bikes, where a weakling like myself appreciates having a 32 or even smaller chainring option for steep stuff, and power meters are more for fun and making sure you don't go too hard at the start of the day if it will be a long one.
@waynebell5040
@waynebell5040 3 роки тому
Hi there. I’ve been using the Faverro pedals for a few months now and I think they’re great. Battery life is better than advertised (I’ve got about 60 hours on the current charge and it’s only just under 1/2 now). Easy to swap between bikes, zero issues with data dropouts, good app to manage them. All in all a great product (and they’re Italian so I think my Bianchi likes them as well 😜).
@brunospasta
@brunospasta 3 роки тому
Get a stages left side only. It is cheap and it will read high and will boost your confidence :D
@apm9507
@apm9507 3 роки тому
Cycling commuter here. My metrics are 😃 per mile, and did I get there on time. With COVID 19, I am not as sure about the second bit but I am working on it.
@paulantosh5501
@paulantosh5501 3 роки тому
"LARGINALgains!" I'm sold.
@yahtzeefrogger
@yahtzeefrogger 3 роки тому
Dylan, I really appreciate your pragmatic and science based approach to the most popular questions cyclists like me have- Thank you! I have ridden a Stages single-sided crank PM for years on my road bike. What is your perspective on that compared to pedals? Second question - what is your perspective of best “type” of power meter for mountain bikes (efficacy) and should I expect similar FTP between on and off road given surface variability w/Mtn? Again, thank you!
@judd7699
@judd7699 3 роки тому
Great video Dylan as per - I’ll now check to find “a how to use power meter video”. I’ve been running a quark first 3.5 years on my road bike but still have no idea how to properly use - I have plenty of data :) ?? Matt
@hillclimblover2255
@hillclimblover2255 3 роки тому
I use a quart as well nice recommendation
@connorsullivan519
@connorsullivan519 3 роки тому
Hey Dylan, I remember watching your video on Zwift's training plans back in early 2019. I have Zwift now and have just been using it to keep up training volume when I can't get to the trails/out on the road. However, I'm dedicating 2021 to my XC MTB racing and am trying to find a winter training plan that avoids the plateaus/burnout you were talking about. My issue is I don't currently have access to in-person coaching right now so I have no clue how much volume I should keep up or how to work off-bike strength training into on-bike power, speed, endurance training So essentially, Where would you recommend I look to find a coach or offseason training plan for a rider who already has a good level of endurance built up from the current season. (Sorry about the question on this video as it's not really related to power meters. Also, thanks for the videos this year, they've helped a lot w/ solo training during COVID)
@joebob1994
@joebob1994 3 роки тому
Favero assioma are my choice. I haven't had an issues and been using for two years. I have a giant crank based power meter that came on another ride and it has been nothing but a pain in the ass for the past 6 months, really made me appreciate the no fuss fit and forget Favero's. Plus you can buy all the parts separately so longevity maintenance should be an issue. `
@jliebs89
@jliebs89 3 роки тому
Love your videos. How do you set your power zones in Training Peaks? There are all sorts of methods that vary quite a bit - do you have a preferred method?
@ksduathlete
@ksduathlete 8 місяців тому
I just bought a quarq for my lauf gravel. I’m excited to use power for training and especially for pacing myself in gravel races. I’m guilty of going out way too hard. In a race should I shoot for IF of 71? 60-70% of ftp? There’s probably another video telling me this answer . You’re videos rock man! Thank you
@bonn1771
@bonn1771 3 роки тому
love my powertap p1 and nice video
@OnEnterFame
@OnEnterFame 3 роки тому
Hi Dylan thank you for your scientific videos - I like your approach to boil the things down! My question: I am doing a bipolar trainingsplan on trainingpeaks with around 8 hours/ week with the typical 80%LIT / 20%HIT split. Im riding my bike some time additionally to this plan, but always only short rides like 20 minutes to work and back. I do this rides at 65-70% FTP so someone could say I spend additionally about 4 hours/week in LIT zone. Should I reduce my regular LIT- trainings from the plan or doesn't have short rides a training effect? Thanks for your answer and keep up the good work!
@thomasneary4617
@thomasneary4617 3 роки тому
Love the channel, found it back in March got me through the spring Quarantine. I just purchased the QUARQ DZERO DUB POWER METER for my bike. I just switched all my components to SRAM. Please tell me this will work? thanks
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 3 роки тому
I got the 4iiii crank and it seems to work pretty well
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 3 роки тому
As someone with a sensitive sinus node, it doesn't take minutes for my heart rate to get super ramped up, it only takes seconds. Power meter helps me more to know if I'm going too hard, to keep out of lactate threshold #2 on a 3-zone scheme. Interestingly, I've used power meter long enough now that I can fairly accurately guesstimate how much power I'm doing based on feel. On a climb anyway. It gets trickier guessing that when you add in a headwind and/or crosswind.
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 3 роки тому
Nice timing. Thanks
@cnay2983
@cnay2983 3 роки тому
I use a Verve Infocrank; Brilliant power meter bought from Ebay for about 350gbp with Rotor chainrings!
@mikehughes700
@mikehughes700 3 роки тому
Any views on the new Garmin Rally XC2000? (Love the videos, keep them coming, thanks for all your insights!)
@MrBJPitt
@MrBJPitt 3 роки тому
Had stages, 4iiii and quarq. Favero Assioma Duos are by far my favourite, and I should have bought it first and saved myself so much money! I also have the spd pedal bodies, so I can swap from road to mtb shoes for cyclocross or gravel touring.
@showlowitsqueentlee2737
@showlowitsqueentlee2737 3 роки тому
What was the issue w/ the 4iiii? I bought one as my first power meter, and it seems fine to me. What's so much better about the FAD?
@MrBJPitt
@MrBJPitt 3 роки тому
@@showlowitsqueentlee2737 the 4iiii started going nuts, all of sudden I was doing 1300 watts and climbing whilst soft pedalling. It would read fine for a few mins, then go nuts again, reading zero watts then just start climbing rapidly up to ridiculous numbers. Fubbured But the reality is, dual power is so much better for training. My stages is still going fine, but having dual power, I can see massive issues in the stages power readings simply because of how I produce power. Sometimes I'm stronger on my left leg, sometimes not - it depends on fatigue and even power level or gradient, on or out of saddle. Far too many variables that it makes you second guess your readings from an effort. Dual power all the way.
@becausewin
@becausewin 3 роки тому
wait favero does spd? Can i buy one set and a separate body and swap the pm between the bodies? or do i have to get a set of road and a set of spd power meters?
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 2 роки тому
Nice video, thanks :)
@michaelpridmore9325
@michaelpridmore9325 3 роки тому
Hi Dylan I love you segments, I'm 67 years young back in my day we did not have power meters. I know you deal with the young brigade but do you think I could benefit from from training this way.
@samuraioodon
@samuraioodon 3 роки тому
I'm still using powertap p1 pedals since its release ☺️
@scherzo0o
@scherzo0o 3 роки тому
very informative, thanks. I didn't need persuasion for using a powermeter, what I need is a suggestion for pedal-based powermeters for MTB-type of pedal. My son is into MTB (cross country) and he's doing also cyclocross/gravel with the same type of shoes. I don't have the money to change his cranks, but a decently priced pair of MTB-pedals powermeters, that he can move from one bike to another easily... that would be a great X-max present :) Something to send data to his Garmin 530.
@maxout5858
@maxout5858 3 роки тому
Interesting video just a question i use both hr and power to pace myself , im confuse when you said that if your hr is low it can be a sign that you are tired or over train i long understand that low hr mean that you are fitter
@kylewernert9785
@kylewernert9785 3 роки тому
A power meter was the fastest piece of equipment I have ever purchased. I was told that I was "opening Pandora's box". However, in my first year of using a power meter I was too much of a robot, I didn't act human. I made sure I hit X watts for workout 1, Y watts for workout 2, Z watts for endurance rides, etc. I didn't listen to my body and it was not healthy for my mental game. People start to become obsessive over the numbers for training, bragging, racing, etc. Moreover, most people that have power meters don't know how to properly use it.
@richhold7775
@richhold7775 3 роки тому
One of the benefits of HR training and Power + HR training but is missing in power based training is the impact environment has. On a cold day I can do 270 watts for an hour. On a hot humid day it's only 250 watts. Regardless my HR limit is 150 bpm. Same goes for elevation. The power I can sustain depends on the elevation but my HR limit is the same.
@mellowcat42
@mellowcat42 3 роки тому
Agree on both counts: training and riding with power data is more productive and effective, and the Assioma pedals are reliable, accurate, and convenient, easily swapping from spin to tri/TT to road bikes.
@2000FocusZX3
@2000FocusZX3 3 роки тому
A lot of us on this channel are gravel racers. Having made this mistake myself, I strongly discourage pedal-based power for gravel racing because the most common options (Assiomas and Garmin Vectors) require a road-based cleat. They work well - until you have to dismount. The slightest amount of debris will prevent the cleats from activating leaving you frustrated and unable to put the power down - the extra money for crank-based power is worth it.
@erikknudsen4034
@erikknudsen4034 3 роки тому
Those are the two power meters I recommend as well.
@rosstisbury1626
@rosstisbury1626 2 роки тому
very helpfull . . thanks
@Pasdechevredreamer
@Pasdechevredreamer 3 роки тому
Thanks for interesting input. Do you have any experience of Race Face Cinch power meter?
@tomalbert3299
@tomalbert3299 3 роки тому
Thanks Dylan for another so true topic! I use two Stages v3 left side crank arms and I am quite content. I also use dual sided Assiomas for a short period now. Fortunately no significant differences between one sided Stages and dual Assiomas. Actually I converted the Assiomas to SPD MTB pedals. How? Xpedo m-force pedal bodies are compatible with the Assioma spindles. GPlama proved that the conversion works flawlessly. @Dylan: It may be just a personal preference, but the graphs and text pieces are sometimes not directly understandable. Especially if English is not your first language. I guess it is extra work but it might be easier to understand if you have a self made chart which you describe with your own words rater than showing a copied piece of text from a scientific study. Or maybe it's just the distracting cycling videos in the background. Apart from that I'm looking forward to you next video!
@blinzi69
@blinzi69 2 роки тому
been using the single sided faveros and i think its fine for me. i compared them to my elite direto and they mostly showed no more than 1% difference, no matter if i go uphill low cadence or flat roads. so i assume my balance is pretty much 50:50
@mathewrose2951
@mathewrose2951 3 роки тому
+1 vote for the Favero Duo system because it can be transferred easily. We split the year between two separate continents and I run Campy Record in the US compared to Dura-Ace where we live in the Middle East for most of the year. Given the hassle of traveling internationally with a bike, I prefer to put my Assiomas in a pair of socks in my Sidi shoes and toss them in my laptop bag. Problem solved.
@jamesp.1784
@jamesp.1784 3 роки тому
I have a Canyon Ultimate that came fitted with a a Quark power meter and i have a Cervelo R5 fitted with a Rotor 2in power meter. The Rotor is "true" dual sided, where I get pedalling metrics such as left/right balance pedalling efficiency torque efficiency and pedalling smoothness.. these are not available on the Quark. The Rotor also has an internal rechargeable battery so no changing batteries. The Rotor is more expensive but if I could swap the Quark for another Rotor I would in a heartbeat. I sound like a Rotor employee but if I were I would say to them "make a set of rings that is interchangeable with the SRAM 12 speed AXIS system".. as I want to swap out my Quark for a Rotor power meter.. For me Quark is ok it's good but Rotor is perfect.
@Sfs678
@Sfs678 2 роки тому
Very good Video 👌❣️
@armyjawbreaker
@armyjawbreaker 3 роки тому
thanks great vid
@fernandojimenez503
@fernandojimenez503 3 роки тому
Agree on the Assiomas. But I would pick Power2Max over Quarq (I have both). My Quarq DZero has a habit of getting its calibration a bit out of whack, some times mid ride. I only notice when I look at the power numbers and experience tells me its wrong... coast, calibrate, and all of a sudden it's good again. Also had the battery die once without prior warning (I now carry a spare). My 2 Power2Max spiders (original P2M and NG Eco) have been 100% flawless. They work, all the time, every time. Yes, the battery is not very common, but it lasts forever. I'll go through three CR2032 on the quarq and I'll still be on one in the P2M.
@Tethysmeer
@Tethysmeer 2 роки тому
Was unsure if I want one on my gravel because it might take the fun out of it. Now I love it. I simply don't want to see average watts because then I always chase averages.
@ByStrumbah
@ByStrumbah 3 роки тому
Hey Dylan. What do you think/know about the 4iiii precision power meter?
@JeffRejent
@JeffRejent 3 роки тому
Holding a consistent power over a hill can be a god send but not every hill is the same. By the time you figure out that you cant hold a certain power on a different hill, its too late. Trial and error is the same, power meter or not. Listen to your body, it knows.
@jaydesimone4297
@jaydesimone4297 3 роки тому
I know it's just an anecdote, but I can confirm the effect of position on HR. When I sit up on the trainer, my HR increases by 5-10 BPM and quickly drops when I put my hands back on the bars. Clearly the heart doesn't have to work as hard when the torso is not vertical.
@suisinghoraceho2403
@suisinghoraceho2403 3 роки тому
Problem with Assioma is that they use proprietary cleats. Replacements can be tricky sometimes. Though these are less a problem than you would think it is. There are also rumours that a worn pair of Look Cleats clips well with them. Still...
@edwardbayley3799
@edwardbayley3799 2 роки тому
I always thought the depression of resting HR was an indicator that the heart and/or aerobic metabolism was becoming more efficient and therefore a desirable thing to see your HR be lower for the same amount of effort.
@dannylockett9445
@dannylockett9445 2 роки тому
was scratching my head there too, i would think relatively elevated RHR would be the signal of stress... might need to watch this again, maybe i misunderstood
@mattias14142
@mattias14142 3 роки тому
I've had my eyes on the favero assioma for a while now. Will definitely get them for next summer.
@dpstrial
@dpstrial 3 роки тому
I have both the Assioma Duo and Uno, and they have been flawless. I cannot recommend them enough. I also have the PowerTap P1s, which are awful.
@cshigley
@cshigley 3 роки тому
You’ll be glad you did!
@trussowner
@trussowner 3 роки тому
Duo user here, I recommend them.
@fernandojimenez503
@fernandojimenez503 3 роки тому
like the others, have a Duo, they are great. Just need to make sure when you plug them in to charge to plug the cable properly... last time I charged one pedal wasn't connected properly, and somehow it was flat next morning. Easily fixed, but my training session was done "blind" that day. Otherwise, perfect. If I could have only one PM, this one would be it
@future62
@future62 3 роки тому
I am 100% on board the PM train and have a Quarq Dub spindle meter.... but I think accuracy is less important than consistency, and L/R imbalance is so hard to tackle it's not worth it IMO. A good old single side meter that you calibrate before every ride will get you 99% of the data you need to get faster.
@anirudhs9200
@anirudhs9200 3 роки тому
I love my Power2Max NGEco. No issues whatsoever. Until an SPD-based pedal power meter is available, that is what I will use.
@anirudhs9200
@anirudhs9200 3 роки тому
@Aramintai that’s crazy expensive and I’m not spending that kind of money on pedals
@ianfurqueron5850
@ianfurqueron5850 3 роки тому
@@anirudhs9200 Well... you're not just buying pedals. You're buying a power meter. That said, I agree about hanging a $1200 component down where they can get bashed on rocks.
@MrBJPitt
@MrBJPitt 3 роки тому
I use my Favero Assioma with the spd pedal bodies, feels just as great as the road pedals.
@anirudhs9200
@anirudhs9200 3 роки тому
@@MrBJPitt Yeah, but you void your warranty (unless you waited for warranty period to expire to replace the pedal body)
@anirudhs9200
@anirudhs9200 3 роки тому
@@ianfurqueron5850 I'm waiting for some other manufacturer to come up with cheaper SPD-based power meter pedals. SRM would have earned my business if it was $999.
@RossHamilton
@RossHamilton 3 роки тому
Faveros are definitely what I choose.
@mateoh1777
@mateoh1777 3 роки тому
Hi, I have one question. Should you take rec weeks in base training and should you be lifiting during them?
@patrickbischof5803
@patrickbischof5803 3 роки тому
Are there any mtb based pedal power meters? Also opinions on powertap wheels? Currently using a lender bike with a power tap hub and it seems pretty solid
@elielbalbino4679
@elielbalbino4679 2 роки тому
Very well explained! But how do you make decisions on a race/ride using power data or HR for that matter? You decide with your reason. You use your judgement. That's why I believe P.E. + Power data, combined and compared are the best way to go when promoting acquisition of self knowledge to evolve. I agree with you completely. I'm just afraid that... things being put that way you did, might give people the impression that they can finally retire from this exhausting duty which is controlling intensity once they have a power meter on their bikes. It must be clear, I believe, that you and yourself alone will always be the controller of this incredibly complex instrument we call a body. And I say that very humbly (if I don't sound like that, forgive me - being a non-native user of the language may spoil communication at times. I apologize) since I'm aware that your knowledge goes a lot further than my current one. I'm a fan actually! Know thyself, use power data to promote long time knowledge of what you can do on a bike. But never retire from being the boat's captain. Cheers from Brazil!
@TheJmbf10
@TheJmbf10 3 роки тому
Do you have an affiliate link to the Hyper Gain Beast Mode Mass Gainer Raw Edition (cupcake flavor)? Asking for a friend.
@briandarnell1809
@briandarnell1809 3 роки тому
Love my Quark D-Zero on my road bike but that is BB30 and was easy to fit. My gravel bike (Salsa Warbird) has a BB-86 and I seem to have less options. I've considered a dual sided Stages crank arm option. Any recommendations?
@StanislavBozhanov
@StanislavBozhanov 3 роки тому
I still wonder if I should get for my XC bike which I do amateur races on and joy rides or my road bike which I used for training mainly and volume
@blazacrew
@blazacrew 2 роки тому
Answer is yes. For training and racing
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