Things We Wish We’d Known When We Started Riding With A Power Meter

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A power meter is one of the best investments you can make to improve your performance on the bike. If you’ve recently bought one, are thinking about it, or just want to know a bit more about riding with power, this is the video for you! Here are a few things we think you should know to get started with a power meter.
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0:00 Intro
0:26 How Do Power Meters Work?
1:57 Riding With A Power Meter
2:53 Finding Your Training Zones
4:35 Tips For Training With A Power Meter
9:55 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 332
@gcn
@gcn Рік тому
Do you ride with a power meter?
@TheRealCoachPierce
@TheRealCoachPierce Рік тому
No but I have been saving to buy one
@mathys166
@mathys166 Рік тому
Just got a 4iiii dual sided crank, this video couldn't have come at a better time, cheers guys
@billkallas1762
@billkallas1762 Рік тому
Hell no.
@RobertoPhoto
@RobertoPhoto Рік тому
Just bought a pair of used dual pedal meters 2 weeks ago.
@ViveSemelBeneVivere
@ViveSemelBeneVivere Рік тому
Up to now I've been using the one between my ears.
@TheUsername1302
@TheUsername1302 Рік тому
Best piece of advice I’ve gotten is don’t look at the power when you’re out with friends. Keep the numbers for your solo and structured training sessions. Best of both: fun and improving
@neelsahay5227
@neelsahay5227 Рік тому
riding with friends is when you hit your PRs, as you desperately hold onto the wheels, while they surge up kickers at 40k an hour at least in my experience lol
@da14a49
@da14a49 Рік тому
@@neelsahay5227 You are certainly not alone...
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Рік тому
See it as a recovery or base training and you are fine.
@NicholasMati
@NicholasMati Рік тому
For anyone who's looking at buying a power meter for the first time: (1) do it; if you're at all serious about biking, it's the most important upgrade you can get for your bike and (2) be aware that Shimano's meters (feature in this video) leave a lot to be desired. There are several better and cheaper meters out there. DC Rainmaker has some very good reviews that you probably should go through first before making a purchase.
@jnchacon
@jnchacon 9 місяців тому
I'm studying the favero Assioma... Any thoughts?
@baltimorejae7397
@baltimorejae7397 9 місяців тому
I just bought the Stages power meter. So far so good
@tinglydingle
@tinglydingle 8 місяців тому
Any knowledge of the Quarq ones on the new Sram groupsets?
@mracer8
@mracer8 8 місяців тому
You mean serious about racing! For regular biking, why would I care?
@kokonanana1
@kokonanana1 7 місяців тому
Agree about D C Rainmaker reviews!
@pro-on6wq
@pro-on6wq Рік тому
Video idea suggestion: A comparison of the speeds of different kinds of bike when you put in the same power. E.g. how fast is a race bike at 250W vs how fast is a mountainbike with the same power, how much faster is a lighter bike, how much influence does tire pressure have, and so on.
@marcgtsr
@marcgtsr Рік тому
And use the cheap bikes/old bikes...
@stargazer162
@stargazer162 11 місяців тому
It'd be nice if it included other types of bikes too that aren't performance oriented but instead are more commonly used by commuters and casual riders, like folding bikes, cruisers, dutch bikes, etc.
@kellymckenzie4865
@kellymckenzie4865 Рік тому
Si has always been my favorite presenter.
@eedoamitay3341
@eedoamitay3341 8 місяців тому
I don't understand why no one is in my situation where they just want a power meter for very accurate calorie tracking. I am trying to lose weight, to have a device that is able to track almost exactly how much calories you burned during a session is insanely valuable for people who care about weight loss, which I imagine is a MASSIVE amount of people. If someone can make a cheap cheap pedal power meter for the masses, and now with the ability to connect power meters to apple watches, that would be a very good selling product in my opinion. I don't think people in the cycling community see the value of this outside of their own training needs. Really really hope a product comes out soon like this.
@3dr1ch
@3dr1ch Рік тому
Nice just to have a classy, informative video from Si every once in a while to set GCN straight. 👏
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 Рік тому
We like this bloke but this business is pre-internet style and is a terrible 1 way show. They should STOP looking to get money out of the poor general public cause Warren Buffet has all our money. Just make shows specificly for Warren buffet and only Warren buffet. Don't give us another version of neighbours. All our $2 have gone. Go Away GCN. Warren has over 90 billion dollars. Go pester him.
@henseleric
@henseleric Рік тому
@@dreyn7780 Dude...
@mrflaxtv81
@mrflaxtv81 11 місяців тому
​@@dreyn7780 what you on about you silly sausage
@MichaelSnasdell
@MichaelSnasdell Рік тому
So glad you did the "same power, different effect" segment... Thanks for another great video
@gcn
@gcn Рік тому
Hope you found it interesting
@MichaelSnasdell
@MichaelSnasdell Рік тому
@@gcn very, it is something that I noticed a while back early on in riding with power and HR. Did wonder if others are better at the other way around. Spinning over grinding, with a lower HR. all fascinating stuff.
@NunoJoel
@NunoJoel Рік тому
Lot of people Will Come for the powermeter info, but most Will be stunned looking to Simon Bike! ! !
@jpstez5271
@jpstez5271 Рік тому
Yes, for a long time now. When Lemond sported the SRM in 94' I understood it exactly as you described with weights, with sets and reps. I still find Hr better at zone 2 stuff, it just doesn't fluctuate as much, and It's easy to get too wrapped up in the power changing so much.
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 Рік тому
I ride with a power meter, Stages left crank arm. They're a useful tool for pacing and climbing. Do an FTP to find your zones and then on your head unit work to power zones 1-6. You then have "gears of effort" to ride in. Just like HR zones but more accurate. I climb in 3-4 and 2-3 in endrance. It's like cheating
@RAP4EVERMRC96
@RAP4EVERMRC96 Рік тому
Can someone please explain power zones or link a reliable video about it. Thx
@Markhypnosis1
@Markhypnosis1 Рік тому
Cheating? How is using power zones like cheating? It doesn't make it easier you know!
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 Рік тому
@@Markhypnosis1 it's as opposed to someone who isn't using one at all or not using zones but fluctuating watts. Zones take away the guessing of effort needed. So on climb you can sit in zone 2 or 3 gear of effort and know the time and pace you will need to cover the climb without say burning out at the bottom. You can pre plan knowing which zone to apply on a particular route or race too.
@parenthlete
@parenthlete Рік тому
How is it better and more accurate than using HR? Does HR give better info as it takes account of fatigue
@CyclingChefDiane
@CyclingChefDiane Рік тому
@@parenthlete HR is great for steady efforts, but the lag makes it useless for short intense intervals. Using both is the key, because you can hit the same numbers at a lower HR and know your body is adapting (or, if a higher HR, maybe you need more recovery)
@parttimedogfish
@parttimedogfish Рік тому
Talk about timing! I just got my first power meter today! Thanks for the tips!
@Dystopia2020
@Dystopia2020 Рік тому
Beauty of a bike btw, quite perfect in my view
@kevinderung8524
@kevinderung8524 Рік тому
Personally, i do my relatively strict training in the winter months (mostly on zwift) and I use those fitness gains during the summer months to hang with strong group rides and power through long Fondos...
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 Рік тому
You're not allowed to introduce yourself to me. GCN must get the 90 billion dollars out of Warren buffet's hands.
@jefferycampbell2243
@jefferycampbell2243 Рік тому
As a numbers geek, I love my power meter and do a lot of structured workouts. However, my favorite rides are the long moderate intensity rides where the computer is showing only the navigation screen.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 Рік тому
Warren buffet is a numbers geek too. How does your 90 billion dollars compare to his? He doesn't need a power meter, he can buy the whole power station.
@mrflaxtv81
@mrflaxtv81 11 місяців тому
​@@dreyn7780 you again. Go away and chat Warren buffet nonsense elsewhere
@roadcyclist1
@roadcyclist1 9 місяців тому
​@@dreyn7780if you had half of his IQ maybe you could have made a lot of money also.
@staticfive
@staticfive 5 місяців тому
@@dreyn7780 this is easily the weirdest comment I've read in a very long time
@grahambowes756
@grahambowes756 Рік тому
I was tempted to get a power meter, but in the end bought a Kikr to use for winter training and learn about my power through that. As an older rider, probably a good way for me to test the waters b
@matthewrepucci3564
@matthewrepucci3564 Рік тому
Two winters on a Kikr now I'm outdoors with a power meter, and love it! (Assioma)
@dakalla
@dakalla Рік тому
I have a left crank power meter, but dont really use it for training by power. I use it more for pacing, so i dont overdo in the beginning of a climb or for a strava sector PR. It works really well and by time you just know how hard you can go. All my PRs improved by a lot, on climbs and flats! Can very much recommend to get a power meter if you are into data and numbers.
@sbjf
@sbjf 7 місяців тому
i don't have a power meter and typically just go by vertical ascent speed for pacing climbs. is a power meter somehow better for that? (i get that it is better for pacing also for doing sprints on the flats)
@staticfive
@staticfive 5 місяців тому
@@sbjf it's absolutely better for that. Given how inaccurate some altimeters are, your VAM isn't going to give you a great idea of your exertion. Also, consider that a punchy climb is easily going to put you over 500W--are you going to trust an altimeter to tell you when you're about to blow up when that effort is likely only sustainable for around a minute? Another nice thing a power meter will do is let you accurately calculate your FTP, so you'll know that you can climb at at least that figure without exploding. Accurate FTP calculation can also give you a W' (W prime) calculation, which lets you know how much anaerobic "burst" power you have at a given time. It's like a battery gauge for your body! All of these cool metrics are only available with power meters, and the great news is that you can get one for under $400 these days.
@mateagoston8145
@mateagoston8145 Рік тому
I was thinking about doing clubrides during racing season and threating them as C races (A being the most important, C being the least) and also sometimes during base/build season threating them as an unprecise but hard intervall training ride. Most of them happen of Saturdays and on Sunday I can go out for my long endurance ride.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 Рік тому
Warren buffet doesn't agree with YOU. He says we must stay home and make some money just like him.
@pedrofreitas4047
@pedrofreitas4047 Рік тому
Favero have auto calibration Power meter is a great tool, to train diferents metabolic body systems
@kevinholly7978
@kevinholly7978 Рік тому
Si , that Peloton bike has gotten me fit . Fit enough to start commuting and to purchase power meters . Different paths to a healthy life. Don't knock it till you try it ... Stroke survivor , now a biking enthusiasts .
@johnnymcmurdo
@johnnymcmurdo Рік тому
He didnt say the peleton idea was bad, he just said the bike itself isnt accurate
@davidfry3912
@davidfry3912 Рік тому
@@johnnymcmurdo The original Bike's power numbers were off 10% or more, just as Si said, but the newer Bike+ model is basically as accurate as the power meter pedals on your road bike.
@angry_tardigrade
@angry_tardigrade Рік тому
@@davidfry3912 Wrong. The Bike is basically a random number generator. The Bike+ is accurate within +/- 10%.
@BC-wj8fx
@BC-wj8fx Рік тому
Correction, your power is not force multiplied by rpm, it is torque multiplied by cadence in radians-per-second. Which means your power = force X crank length X radians-per-second. There are 2*pi radians in one revolution and 60 seconds in a minute, so your power (watts) is force (newtons) multiplied by (crank length in metres*rpm*2*3.141)/60 or approximately: force multiplied by (crank length*rpm)/10. With a bit of mathematics and this correct formula, one can calculate how much force they put on the crank. It turns out you can't put much more force than your own body weight (newtons) due to the need for gravity to keep you planted. A little more force can be gained by bracing against the handlebars. To get more power past the maximum possible force you need to raise the other variable, the cadence.
@topaz_climber
@topaz_climber Рік тому
My first power meter literally arrived today. Thanks for the personalised vid, GCN!
@lucascooper3476
@lucascooper3476 Рік тому
Literally ordered mine yesterday and should have arrived today.... now tomorrow, however great timing!
@albertoponti
@albertoponti Рік тому
I also just order my first powermeter!! Unbelievable timing 👌🏻
@mikehoffman3690
@mikehoffman3690 Рік тому
Great information. 🤟😎
@rachelharvey71
@rachelharvey71 Рік тому
Lmao with Si’s trip to the gym what a legend looking that ridiculous and clearly still enjoying himself 🤣🥰
@chrisdavis8399
@chrisdavis8399 Рік тому
Look at Si working those buggy whips in the gym! Well done you!, 💪🏻🏋️
@hzunasdfgbciw
@hzunasdfgbciw Рік тому
Si in a gym... - Si, who told you where to find a gym? ^^
@cocorocks88
@cocorocks88 Рік тому
A lot of content here to enjoy... and yet I was constantly distracted by Si's DMT shoes! 😍
@alansmith2593
@alansmith2593 Рік тому
Very informative filum :) once I’d re watched the first bit twice but then I am dyslexic 🙂
@jw3638
@jw3638 Рік тому
Si's shoes are 🔥🔥
@matt_m126
@matt_m126 Рік тому
Si just demonstrated my gym routine on video!
@jdwalexander
@jdwalexander Рік тому
Love the little dig at Peloton Bikes.
@TauseefKhan-np3do
@TauseefKhan-np3do Рік тому
Yes, Rotor 2inpower on Supersix EVO.
@DeveryAndrews
@DeveryAndrews Рік тому
The lap button works great for intervals and holding a specific power output.
@dreyn7780
@dreyn7780 Рік тому
But you'll get more praise from making wealth than from cycling.
@bluestilling101
@bluestilling101 5 місяців тому
Excellent job explaining using the power meter. I was hoping you would have a bit deeper, and explain the benefits of having two vs one power meter (other than the significant cost difference)? I have gone back and forth on Whether to install just one in the beginning and later install a second, or do I really need to have two? Any advise?
@shepshape2585
@shepshape2585 Рік тому
As to Si's first point, I don't know about other brands of power meters, but you do not have to zero out Assioma power pedals. One of the benefits of those pedals, as well as their cost. Also, while no power meter is perfect, as long as whatever power meter you're using gives you consistent results, it doesn't matter. One last thing, Si references polarized training, which only has three zones, and the methodology is that you spend 80-90 percent of your time in zone 1 (base), and the rest in zone 3 (intervals), spending as little time as possible in zone 2. He says zone 2 base training during the video, which is probably because most people do a 5 or more zone training program, and zone 2 usually means base training effort.
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 Рік тому
Not sure which gospel you quote to say that polarized training has three zones. Afaik it's just a term. A synonym would be barbell training. The idea being you avoid the middle and you focus on the extremities of a barbell / poles of a sphere.
@shepshape2585
@shepshape2585 Рік тому
@@pierrex3226 I have no idea what you’re trying to say. Polarized training only has three zones, look it up.
@tubbytoast2
@tubbytoast2 Рік тому
Fantastic concise vid from Si ! But some one should have told him those horizontal patterns on his GCN socks don't do his ankles any favours , 😂😱😂
@NickM86
@NickM86 Рік тому
I’ve got the favero assioma duo, interchangeable on any bike, just got them a few weeks ago, great timing on the video!
@karstenmeinders4844
@karstenmeinders4844 Рік тому
I have been riding them since Nov 2019, switching between my road bike, CX bike and TT bike. No issues so far. The numbers delivered are consistent.
@digitalenglish3620
@digitalenglish3620 Рік тому
Just brought my duo’s 4 days ago, gonna test them out and start my trading plan.
@phoenixaroui8712
@phoenixaroui8712 Рік тому
Bought them 7months ago just got them 15days ago very happy
@blankseventydrei
@blankseventydrei Рік тому
i have them myself, really like them.
@Zokermanswern
@Zokermanswern 8 місяців тому
Do you have to buy tires separately or they come in with a bike
@lowdowndan
@lowdowndan Рік тому
Close, power is force times distance divided by time. The distance is related to number of rotations but also crank arm length. Therefore crank arm length also matters. As a measurement, Torque itself has the crank arm length in it but force does not…
@HeySers
@HeySers Рік тому
Damn this Aeroad equipped with the Dura-Ace looks damn beautiful
@adyjclarke
@adyjclarke Рік тому
I find if my head unit (cycling) or watch (running) displays my power zone or my heart rate zone, it is easier to follow than trying to follow fluctuating numbers.
@streamdreams
@streamdreams Рік тому
This is the way you should be looking at it
@ukestjohn
@ukestjohn Рік тому
I would really like it if people on "social" group rides would just put their head units in their jersey pockets and download stuff when they get home. Between power obsessions and strava segments, I don't know how many friendly group rides have been ruined by " I've got to watch my numbers" or " sorry, I have to try for a PB on this segment."
@FreemanBR
@FreemanBR Рік тому
That burn on peloton was beautiful hahaha
@sand9577
@sand9577 Рік тому
I'm a mechanical engineer. I'm not only a slave to numbers, they are my livelihood, I serve the numbers, they serve me. I'm so into my numbers, I'm going to try Best Bike Split to get my coveted PR this weekend, by riding exactly to the numbers. Did I mention I like numbers?
@williamdowling7718
@williamdowling7718 Рік тому
But the real question is, do you think the numbers are even important at all?
@sand9577
@sand9577 Рік тому
@@williamdowling7718 Hahaha, take a wild guess.
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 Рік тому
So, how'd you do?
@sand9577
@sand9577 11 місяців тому
@@stevek8829 Blew up halfway up the climb.
@OlegsKop
@OlegsKop Рік тому
10:10 valve on the front wheel are not alignet with teh tire name. Just nice.
@Andys_cranks
@Andys_cranks Рік тому
I would love a power metre just to see if the feeling of getting fitter actually translates to real number improvements. Unfortunately they are too expensive for my budget.
@EduardoSalas
@EduardoSalas 4 місяці тому
Dat stealth space gray/black Canyon, tho', . . . 🔥🔥🔥
@filipski595
@filipski595 Рік тому
Very nice looking bike 🤩🤩
@fatdave111
@fatdave111 6 місяців тому
is gcn also showing sometimes different bikes aside canyon?
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Рік тому
As a triathlete I really love the data. At some point you really get a feeling for the different pace zones which really helps not getting to fast. Also it's important if you do polarized training, as most people just naturally go too fast and too slow most of the time. Especially if you coming from a HIIT background, the numbers really help going slow.
@morosis82
@morosis82 Рік тому
One thing my coach emphasised is to not just track the numbers but also use them to try to feel what a particular effort feels like, so like what does zone 4 feel like and can you run/cycle in zone 4 by feel, for example. The more you can do that the better in tune with your body you can be as to how an effort should feel and whether you're out of your normal range and may need to alter your race Strat a little.
@sandgroper1970
@sandgroper1970 Рік тому
Don’t have a power meter, yet with the type and amount of riding I do , I really don’t need one. But if I was truthful to myself, I would like one just to see what actual numbers I can put out. I am a bit of a stats geek/ nerd.
@klaudialaszlo8178
@klaudialaszlo8178 Рік тому
Just got a left sided Dura Ace 4iiii power meter and it’s not connecting well to Zwift or my watch. I have been using Garmin speed and cadence meter but I wanted accurate power reading. I downloaded the 4iiii app and calibrated the pm but it did only connected a bit to zwift but didn’t read. Do I need to remove the speedmeter or what could be the problem? All the reviews are saying that it easy too install and connect with zwift, not for me
@ilodubaezekwem9495
@ilodubaezekwem9495 Рік тому
Great shoes!!!! Unfortunately impossible to find in that color 😒
@blakebullock9656
@blakebullock9656 Рік тому
Nice knock against the peloton bike!😂
@bedoubt
@bedoubt Рік тому
Thanks for viddeo, just what i needed! But do i ride with 3 seconds average power or do i just set the zones. And do you use average normalized power after you are done training to find the zone you have trained in?
@nutellarutsche6971
@nutellarutsche6971 Рік тому
You ride with 3 sec average, raw numbers fluctuate way too much. You do not find the zone you have trained in by taking the average or anything else from an entire ride, for seeing in which zone you are training the same 3 sec average is the best measure too. On Strava for example you can then see for an entire ride how much time you have spent in which zone.
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 Рік тому
I suggest trying training peaks or todays plan as I find todays plan gives me more data
@W2HTLCA
@W2HTLCA Рік тому
Agree with using 3 second power because I tired using 5 second thinking it would help stabilize the number, but it proved the opposite because it lagged too much. Until I did my first FTP test, set up my power zones with Strava estimated 6 week FTP as a starting point.
@paatons1
@paatons1 Рік тому
Do favero pedels need to be calibreted for every ride?
@philcam9493
@philcam9493 Рік тому
What kind of watts did you produce on your Penny Farthing?
@andrewjohnjexy2894
@andrewjohnjexy2894 Рік тому
The Canyon bike that Simon rides look amazing!! Could someone please tell me the model of the bike? Thank you!
@aritmicshitting7046
@aritmicshitting7046 Рік тому
It literally looks like my dream byke.
@xXxLegendZoneTVxXx
@xXxLegendZoneTVxXx Рік тому
Canyon Aeroad Cf SLX older model
@andrewjohnjexy2894
@andrewjohnjexy2894 Рік тому
@@xXxLegendZoneTVxXx thank you!!
@alanolucky13
@alanolucky13 Рік тому
Aeroad CFR not CFslx
@melibaut
@melibaut Рік тому
I was just looking at power meter bundles. Specifically Garmin 850 bundle vs Wahoo. Great video!
@gustavosalvini1827
@gustavosalvini1827 Рік тому
Don’t get the garmin power pedals. Having those and nothing is about the same thing, they’re really inaccurate
@HBosman
@HBosman Рік тому
Something interesting from the recent Giro was a poll amongst riders about their computer. Most said they only really check distance remaining and that the power meter can be quite disheartening for them ;)
@gcn
@gcn Рік тому
It's not uncommon for pros to train to power to get fitter, but ride entirely on feel during the race.
@HBosman
@HBosman Рік тому
@@gcn Absolutely hear you. That was specifically for the race. I'm sure they all use power meters for training ;)
@gcn
@gcn Рік тому
It's really interesting, Tadej Pogacar famously climbed La Planche des Belle Filles without a computer during his Tour de France Winning Final TT in 2020
@HBosman
@HBosman Рік тому
@@gcn Makes total sense in a TT though, but Pog is another animal entirely - oh that constant lone struggle to get the right balance between effort and pace. PS: The final showdown between Pogacar and Roglic was one of the best I've ever seen.
@PhoenixRealOne
@PhoenixRealOne Рік тому
Currently I am actively looking for a powermeter pedal. So nice timing :) and good video!
@talonlan
@talonlan Рік тому
Favero Assiomas unless you hate look keo style cleats.
@PhoenixRealOne
@PhoenixRealOne Рік тому
@@talonlan funny enough that you should recommend those. They are my current favorite :)
@BikePappy
@BikePappy Рік тому
Agreed. Assiomas are solid. They now have pedal spindles that you can fit your Shimano bodies to - if that is what you prefer.
@PhoenixRealOne
@PhoenixRealOne Рік тому
@@BikePappy tbh, I currently struggle to find out which cleats i have :D Just started 7 months ago, only used my roadbike with a smart trainer at home the first 5 month and I've never been on a group ride yet. I googled the Look/KEO cleats and found mine advertised as SPD. I google for SPD and they look like the MTB cleats (I use 3 point roadbike cleats/shoes). That got me confused :(
@anttitapio4145
@anttitapio4145 Рік тому
I think we have to get a video about Si's gym routine 😂👏
@grantmcalpine6364
@grantmcalpine6364 Рік тому
How do you like the Canyon bike?
@RossTheNinja
@RossTheNinja Рік тому
Please see Dr Stephen Seiler for videos on the 80/20 approach to cycling, where most of your sessions will be in zone 2
@karlr6810
@karlr6810 Рік тому
Yup, his video was enlightening.
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 8 місяців тому
Force X distance X cadence = power. Si left out the crankarm length.
@endcensorship874
@endcensorship874 Рік тому
Not all us are big-shot GCN presenters, and can't afford Dura-Ace. However, I did just buy the SRAM Rival crank based power meter. How are those "zero'd out?"
@parmopaul
@parmopaul Рік тому
I have the same power meter. Use the AXS app or a headunit like in the video.
@alleywatson
@alleywatson Рік тому
Si is great at these
@Dunky80
@Dunky80 Рік тому
This has got to be the first time Simon ever been in a weight Room!
@pj9375
@pj9375 Рік тому
I love your eyebrows Si. Do you shape them?
@dryburn
@dryburn Рік тому
That Canyon tho 👌
@askmeaboutmattweiner
@askmeaboutmattweiner Рік тому
Just FYI the peloton bike (at least the + version) does have the ability to calibrate it's power meter.
@davidfry3912
@davidfry3912 Рік тому
Yes, the Bike+ power numbers are extremely accurate. DC Rainmaker's video showed they matched data from the power meter pedals he put on the bike almost perfectly. I've been doing Powerzone training inside on my Bike+ for over a year and it has improved my outdoor cycling immensely.
@angry_tardigrade
@angry_tardigrade Рік тому
@@davidfry3912 DCR just got lucky with his purchase. Read Peloton's documentation. It is +/- 10% accuracy for the Bike+.
@benpit2762
@benpit2762 Рік тому
Nice shoes!
@TSonemusic
@TSonemusic Рік тому
This winter i bought a kickr and after two years of hearth rate based training this was my first time with a powermeter. Did an FTP test which was 253 at the time. Being able to train this specific felt great made me buy a crank based power meter. Now in less than 6 months i increased my ftp to 300 which feels like more progress then the two years before. Indeed the best investment i did to my bike.
@MaxFluff
@MaxFluff Рік тому
just wondering where did you put the wahoo speed meter? (didn't see it on any of the wheels)
@kriscythe
@kriscythe Рік тому
the wahoo head unit can still measure speed through GPS data albeit not as accurate when a speed sensor is available
@MaxFluff
@MaxFluff Рік тому
@@kriscythe aah okay, thanks! I bought a bundle with everything in it so that's why I wondered
@Mouseend
@Mouseend Рік тому
Question, the power meter. It measures cadence for the calculation of power, but will it also output cadence data? So that ur wahoo for instance will get cadence data from the power meter and also show that on the screen? Or u need a diffrent thing for that. (Sorry for possibly a dumb question, but is pretty new to road cycling myself and data. Been watching ur channel for years and also diffrent tours. But never thought/cared abour data) Also sorry if my English might be a bit of, its my second language 😅
@Alex-kr7zr
@Alex-kr7zr Рік тому
Yes
@amrgardner
@amrgardner Рік тому
Nice to see a road bike again on GCN. It was turning into GGCN or something.
@xtrailz
@xtrailz Рік тому
This one slipped through. Apologies - it won't happen again.
@aja5177
@aja5177 Рік тому
Interesting title choice
@robm509
@robm509 Рік тому
I am glad I'm retired and don't have to worry about riding by numbers. Maths was never my best subject anyway. I'm old school and just ride my bike on feeling ;)
@hzunasdfgbciw
@hzunasdfgbciw Рік тому
Don't you have these "oh, this feels really hard today" moments? Then I see the watts and know if it IS really hard or if I'm just lazy today. If lazy: Get yourself together and do your watts! ^^
@lightningll2991
@lightningll2991 Рік тому
Can't ride to power when racing, learn how to listen to your body so I totally agree. started racing in 1976. still no power meter on my bike. Also can't use one on the track
@BC-wj8fx
@BC-wj8fx Рік тому
I rode on feeling but when I got a power meter it showed I'd been using the wrong cadence. Even though the cadence felt the best, the power meter showed that I made the same power with less fatigue if I raised the cadence 15 rpm. It felt odd at first but the numbers do not lie, and now this is my preferred cadence.
@jimmyzhao2673
@jimmyzhao2673 Рік тому
2:32 Okay that 'gym workout' made me laugh, I know people like that, but you forgot to *take selfies.* That would make the workout complete
@JamesDownes
@JamesDownes Рік тому
What's the tyre pressure Simon. Seems a lot of rubber flat on the road
@kakarot2430
@kakarot2430 Рік тому
I thought I am the only one who noticed that.
@user-wd4eq4rs1q
@user-wd4eq4rs1q Рік тому
So canyon gave that aeroad to gcn. Interesting
@bikebudha01
@bikebudha01 Рік тому
You know all this tech is great an all. But man, it's so much extra mental effort. Espeically for those of us that aren't elite athetes (i.e. everyone who is watching this video). Here's a simple cheat that will save you all the headache, time, and money of a power meter. Find a nice 1/2 to 1 mile climb that's around 5% grade. Power up it. What speed can you hold up the hill? 8mph? 11mph? Whatever, doesn't matter. Let's use 8mph as what you were able to hold. Now every week go back and try and hold 'just a bit more speed'. Once you hold 8.5mph, move up to trying for 9mph. Then 9.5mph etc etc. Cheap, easy, free, effective. This also works on your flat speedwork. Mark off a quarter mile section of road, see how fast you can hold. Then come back and work on going just a bit faster every week. Done...
@Dystopia2020
@Dystopia2020 Рік тому
Just done my first ride with 4iiiiiiiiiiiiiii left crank power meter. The wildly fluctuating numbers frustrated me. Are all power meters like that? And what setting is best for an accurate reading - 10 sec avg, 30 sec?
@martinangell5153
@martinangell5153 Рік тому
If you have it set to show instantaneous power then numbers will jump about, try 3 second power or higher
@DK-dq9sm
@DK-dq9sm Рік тому
which bike is he riding ? canyon aeroad ?
@redpandamaniacal
@redpandamaniacal Рік тому
I cycle to visit places, shop, and just enjoy the views on a mamachari. That said, I've been interested in getting a power meter just because I'm curious about those various values I've heard about and think it'd be interesting to see more stats regarding my trips other than just distance and speed. It's a bit of a shame though, since my bike is probably cheaper than the cheapest power meters out there, so I'll probably just hold out for a while instead.
@deabreu.tattoo
@deabreu.tattoo Рік тому
me too, I'm curious about all these kilowatt shanenigans, but the price is just WAY too much for a non-competitive cyclist like me. I'd rather buy a second-hand fine bike than a power meter
@hzunasdfgbciw
@hzunasdfgbciw Рік тому
Yes, pricing is a shame. Hard to believe the little wire in there costs more than a Cent.
@galenkehler
@galenkehler Рік тому
Is there any word from shimano regarding the extensive crank failures on modern cranks? #askGCNtech Also shimano has never been able to produce an accurate dual sided crank PM, is this generation any better? #askGCNtech
@thesprazzzler
@thesprazzzler Рік тому
New generation cranks are symmetric which should have fixed the accuracy issues
@JMcLeodKC711
@JMcLeodKC711 Рік тому
That was a pretty big slam of Peloton you made there and frankly they deserve it.
@ethangodridge6833
@ethangodridge6833 Рік тому
Si will do anything to show off those bulging biceps😆. Great video by the way.
@ulrichz4099
@ulrichz4099 Рік тому
I just noticed that I always zeroed my PM in horizontal and not vertical haha When he zeroed it, I was like: Is he doing it wrong or me the whole time?
@AndyLeeJordan
@AndyLeeJordan Рік тому
My spider power meter (Quarq DZero) specifically said to zero it in the vertical position (drive-side crank at 6 o’clock). But fortunately it also auto-calibrates so I don’t do that often!
@timw4369
@timw4369 Рік тому
how about riding because you enjoy it. Does every ride have to be a workout for the next tour de france? Enjoy your rides and stop tracking everything you do you will enjoy it more and you can check any stats later when the ride is over or dont. Just have fun with riding you will get more out of it.
@Darsithis
@Darsithis Рік тому
Or we can all do ourselves and be happy 😃 I personally love data. I still enjoy my rides with my friends or solo, but I like seeing my data after my rides.
@jimjamthebananaman1
@jimjamthebananaman1 Рік тому
@@Darsithis I love data too: HR, power, cadence, total gradient etc. I don’t race triathlons anymore but I do just love graphs and numbers 😅
@simonrichardson5259
@simonrichardson5259 Рік тому
It’s almost like you didn’t watch the end of the video. 😉
@2.old4this
@2.old4this Рік тому
Great vid Si. Just getting into my Assioma-Shi pedal power meters. Can’t help but notice you experts where either a Whoop 4.0 or a Wahoo watch. Any chance you could do a pros and cons on that type of tech? Thanks for all the great shows.
@anac5656
@anac5656 Рік тому
If you want a watch, Garmin is the way to go!
@rboc12
@rboc12 Рік тому
Shoes look fast and powerful
@1003talk
@1003talk 10 місяців тому
This guy is smashing the pedals, and he is able to talk normally .
@adccars359
@adccars359 Рік тому
I usually ride a high cadence. I was mortified 😱. The first time I saw my power numbers.
@gqh007
@gqh007 Рік тому
In a good way or a bad way
@adccars359
@adccars359 Рік тому
@@gqh007 They were much lower than I thought it would be. I usually spun the 53-17 or 53-15 at 90rpm. I still do but I mix it up a lil more now.
@MrLEGONATHAN
@MrLEGONATHAN Рік тому
High cadence wouldn’t lower power, it would lower torque. Riding at a high cadence is a good way to efficiently produce more power
@Ed.R
@Ed.R Рік тому
@@MrLEGONATHAN Assuming you apply high torque as well as high rpm. Most people struggle to do this, the ability to do it is what separates the pros from everyone else.
@jimjamthebananaman1
@jimjamthebananaman1 Рік тому
@@Ed.R it’s like driving a car really: diesels produce more torque (force) than a petrol but at less RPMs for the same power. Petrols produce less torque but higher RPMS to produce the same power
@Jay-wq4qr
@Jay-wq4qr Рік тому
Gibt's sich Power Zentimeter?
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle Рік тому
If your pedal bearings are worn out or rough, will this affect your power meter readings?
@streamdreams
@streamdreams Рік тому
no it will not affect the reading
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 Рік тому
Also join up to training peaks or todays plan to analyse the data
@markmoreno7295
@markmoreno7295 Рік тому
Does the same 20 minute ride at a constant power level, and the same cadence, but with different bikes, feel the same?
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 8 місяців тому
Effort-wise, it does. But handling makes the experience a little different.
@MrBootgrab
@MrBootgrab Рік тому
it's all great ..great info video...but I certainly don't need a power meter to tell I'm getting dropped. 🤣
@James-zu1ij
@James-zu1ij Рік тому
I find a power meter useful in stopping you getting dropped
@alainpfammatter8224
@alainpfammatter8224 Рік тому
Wow you have got a duraace powermeter. They are so rare 😳….
@colinedward3147
@colinedward3147 Рік тому
Things I wish I’d known, don’t buy a garmin one……garbage. Struggles connecting, eventually a new door came out changed the battery door as per garmin, won’t connect at all now, also the pedal body wore out inside two years, which garmin wouldn’t warranty. Took me a lot of time and money to work that out, spread the word.
@mateagoston8145
@mateagoston8145 Рік тому
Fellas at Garmin have become way too comfortable in their office chairs as they think simply because they built up a famous brand they will be able to sell only crap in the future for fortunes lol.
@parenthlete
@parenthlete Рік тому
Don’t buy a garmin anything experience has told me …
@James-zu1ij
@James-zu1ij Рік тому
Personally, I would go with the 4IIII left side crank. It has no parts to wear out. It is super reliable, and you can quickly transfer it to any bike.
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