The Ultimate Guide to the Wago 221 Inline Connector
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День томуThe Wago 221 inline connector is a great alternative to butt crimps or choc block style connections. In our full Wago product review, we show how to use the connector, compatibility with different conductor types, current ratings and test points.
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00:00 Wago 221 now available in the UK
00:40 An alternative to butt or through crimps
01:21 Wago 221 Current rating and approvals - ENEC, UL & PSE
02:00 Conductor strip length
02:20 Conductor types and cross-sectional area
04:00 How to use a Wago 221 inline connector
04:57 Wago 221 inline carrier
05:50 Cable tie strain relief
07:03 Chassis mount Wago 221 inline carrier
07:40 Using with Wagobox light
08:55 Wago 221 inline test points
10:10 Wago test probes
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#efixx #electricians #wago
@getnyrb 9 днів тому
Use the Wago connectors for the first time yesterday. Fantastic product.
@davefarmery8180 2 роки тому
About time wago released this , the times I've needed this
@GeoFry3 2 роки тому
Excellent video. In-line is definitely going into my wire kit.
@GavinLawrence747 2 роки тому
been waiting on these for so long, great product and great video guys!
@Bad-Karma 2 роки тому
I'd like to know when we'll see these in the US?
@underdog2400 Рік тому
Thanks a million!!! Love Wago!
@chrissterling9924 6 місяців тому
Brilliant video Gentlemen. Thank you.
@sarasal99 7 місяців тому
i was curious if one can secure these connectors down to wood with maybe a backing plate, I need to use a 5 way to connect grounds in an electric guitar cavity and an inline to connect the positives. I would like to secure these down in the body cavity so as to not move around. Some of the wiring has to be channeled down the middle. I saw you used some gray backing plates would those work and where do you get them? Thanks
@pedrocols 9 місяців тому
I use these connectors for car stereo installations and they are great.!
@Sarge92 9 місяців тому
depends how lazy i al but i usually do it in 1 of 3 ways if i can buy the harness adapter i get that and move on with my life obviously but assuming its a stereo with the dozen wires coming out the back i just purchase a universal harness adapter for my vehicle cut off the stero side connector then ill join to that so im cutting up the adapter and not touching the factory loom then ill join the wires in one of theese ways from laziest to most preffered 1 crimp bullet connectors 2 self soldering marine splices (they look like heatshrink with a little solder ring when you shrink them they solder the wires together and some adhesive makes them water tight 3 hand solder them with heatshrink wagos arnt a terrible or harmfull way to do it its just a little cludge
@nmclive469 2 роки тому
I have used them inside light fittings and they are great but woud like them to launch a 4 way version for loop in and out instead of using the 3 way and having to bend the cables to suit the mounting brackets. Keep up the great work 👍
@grahamturner6119 2 роки тому
Can't beat a good old Fashion soldered joint perfection
@1992jamo 2 роки тому
@@grahamturner6119 soldered joint for mains connection?
@wjhann4836 2 роки тому
AFAIK there is a 5pin version - at least in my toolbox 😉
@JasperJanssen 2 роки тому
Why not populate 4 connectors on the 5 wide?
@SamButlerUK Рік тому
I think the point replies are missing is a 2x2 inline connector hence 4-way. Not four in a row.
@Hoops-Senior 2 роки тому
Guys, you set my OCD into overdrive when you clipped those three connectors onto the carrier with one round the opposite way to the others... Seriously traumatised now. ;)
@allangibson2408 2 роки тому
The shot of a green/yellow earth conductor connected to a brown 240V active conductor right at the start got me going…
@pear7777 9 місяців тому
Ppl nowadays have no consideration with seniority anymore, are you well, Sir? It's been about a year?
@markfisher1716 2 роки тому
Greetings. Great video on the Wago connectors. What really caught my eye though was your wire strippers. Pleaz give out details on them. Will be subscribing to your channel. Keep up the good videos. Thanks.
@diamond6256 Рік тому
I just used these to hook up my speakers and speakers to Receiver and TV. 67 woman in Texas.
@jonathanwalker5985 8 місяців тому
Hi Guys, where do I get the accessory plate from that is used to mount the carrier plate into the light box. Is there a part number? Common electrical trade counters don’t seem to stock the accessory! Thanks
@drysicle 7 місяців тому
I also need this. I was able to source the light box, the mounting carrier, and the inline connectors. I cannot find the accessory plate
@akbarramzan7436 2 роки тому
Imagine if the wago connectors could be clicked together themselves, without a tray. It’s funny because the counterfeit wago connectors come up with novel ideas like this.
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
Mounting carriers increase creepage distance allowing for 450v rating.
@akbarramzan7436 2 роки тому
@@daviddraper9256 make it 300v rated clipped together or make one side thicker by a few mm
@jumpfok 2 роки тому
What sizes does that huge wago accept? I want one of those to put in my van :D
@unitrader403 Рік тому
It fits a standrard Electrician Thumb perfectly!! so you can also use it to connect all your other fingers!!! :D
@MrCamer0n 10 місяців тому
Another thing in the van that just sits there but when you need it it’s good to have it
@RedRupert64 2 роки тому
Great! I'll be using them on my motorcycle 🏍️
@TheDrew2022 Рік тому
The UL mark has both a C and US which means certified for Canada as well.
@tobysherring1369 2 роки тому
Is the mounting plate actually necessary in a Wagobox or just convenient? And you mentioned mounting on a roof beam, but how do you cover the single-insulated cables?
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
It is not necessary to use one in the WAGOBOX Light. They are suitable for using in other manufacturers enclosures or cabinets.
@kooale Рік тому
Hilarious chemistry, Mr. Coffee on our left, Mr. Doobie Sunburn on our right. Many thanks tho!
@loghome7061 Рік тому
Where can I get one of those HUGE WAGO 221 display boxes?
@michaelpebsevans7073 2 роки тому
Are there any plans for a larger cable diameter wago? Ie for 6mm t/e cable
@craigedwards2411 Рік тому
I am ignorant when it comes to the electrical side of things however... Would you potentially know which product would be idea from the wage line to integrate it into an Arduino project? This can't use the breadboard and has to be a bit more sophisticated. I am using the din rails and some 3d printed parts. The only issue I have is how do I create a common ground or power for 3-5 other devices. I have seen some terminal blocks on your channel but it seems that they could be an overkill for the tiny connectors that the Arduino uses for most of its sensors. Any ideas gentlemen would be appreciated.
@AP268 Рік тому
Which probes are you using? I have had the same issues with my Metrel tester!
@athills22 Рік тому
Do you have a link for the accessories (box and plate)
@stevendouglas3860 Рік тому
Are they the , thinnest ...inline connectors you can buy ? Thank eFIXX
@ianmiller3182 2 роки тому
Great idea with the probes, but where do you purchase in the UK ?
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
Any wholesaler can order them in for you and we have stock in the UK
@Shawnmc-el1pn 9 місяців тому
just something i do may or may not help but i put the tab with the writing on to the supply end that way at a glance i can tell what end has power and what end wont should a cable come out or something needs changing
@john999boy 2 роки тому
Thanks for an informative video but I can’t believe you didn’t use a ty wrap gun instead of cutters! The finished cut is on another level.
@m.nazifyilmaz3835 Рік тому
Can I use this or the same model with side by side connectors for repairing a cable I managed to break while drilling through a wall? Is this ok as it as or I need to put it in a box, the cable is under the plasterboard and will be covered.
@josephqueen1878 2 роки тому
Cant wait to get them in the US
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
They are for sale under part 221-2401 in the USA due to AWG sizes
@larrykent196 5 місяців тому
2:19 "We don't understand" LOL.... Wire gauge that all, used also for sheet metal. interesting video, I too use the Wago connector.
@ooslum 2 роки тому
Hey fellas, dummy question probably, where would you make that twin & cpc to flex connection in that straight format. Always good videos, cheers.
@efixx 2 роки тому
As we showed to connect something like a Hi- bay or connection to heating zone valves, pumps etc
@abayit Рік тому
Can this be conected to a multi connection from 1 source like the 221-415?
@unitrader403 Рік тому
My only question is where i can get the Wago 221 on the front left of the Set. i have some big cables to Splice and this would be pretty handy :D
@hansstahl1887 2 роки тому
I really want one of those oversized prop Wagos 😮 any chance you know where I could get one?
@efixx 2 роки тому
we got ours from Wago as a gift
@steveread1798 2 роки тому
Can you give more detail about the backplates and accessories. I was offered some backplates but they seemed too long for the light box. Is it just the light boxes that they are designed for or can you use then in other boxes? Do you have to use the backplates in all installations for conformity to regs?
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
The mounting carriers are designed to be used in any manufacturers enclosure. They are available with or without strain relief which can be snapped off if not required.
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
No requirement to use the mounting in WAGOBOX Light to meet regs.
@philippuszka7356 2 роки тому
You mentioned UL certification for the US, you didn't mention ULc for Canada
@petermichaelgreen 2 роки тому
Would be interesting to ask Wago why 4mm² Class 2 conductors are not supported. It seems like a strange limitation and a particular PITA with typical UK cable types. Perhaps less of an issue with german cables (IIRC 4mm² NYY-J is solid)
@Morberis 2 роки тому
Hmm, I don't know how it works with you metric wire types but 4mm² is the equivalent of 12awg. But in awg sizes stranded wire has a slightly larger physical size than solid wire. So maybe it's related to that?
@petermichaelgreen 2 роки тому
@@Morberis IIRC yes stranded (class 2) is allowed to be slightly larger than solid (class 1), but fine stranded (class 5) conductors are allowed to be slightly larger still. So it's odd to support 4mm² solid and 4mm² fine stranded but not 4mm² stranded.
@Morberis 2 роки тому
@@petermichaelgreen That is very odd. I didn't notice that they were rated for finely stranded. The Canadian version of their website lists them as compatible with solid, stranded, and finely stranded. But over here it would be very very odd for something to be rated for #12 solid but not #12 stranded or finely stranded. It basically has to fit any #12 wire. Though requiring ferrules is allowed.
@christopherhume8896 2 роки тому
Just snip one of the strands and it's bound to fit. 😉
@crisnmaryfam7344 9 місяців тому
actually I take that back these are 18-14 gauge ones, so 12 wouldnt be considered Bueno. Hwoever the ones I have and purchased form amazon are - "[PERFECT SPECIFICATIONS]: The lever nuts that are 412, 413, and 415 accommodate stranded wires from 0.14 to 4 mm², as well as solid and fine-stranded wires from 0.2 to 4 mm² (24-12 AWG). 221-2401 accommodate solid wires from 20-12 AWG. Ratings up to 32 A/450 V and 105°C maximum continuous operating temperature allow the 221 Series Splicing Connectors to be used at ambient temperatures up to 85 °C (T85), making them ideal for small and large loads. Furthermore, approvals like ENEC or UL allow them to be used in worldwide applications. That would be why I immediately thought "That wire works" because.. it does with the ones im used to using. "Wago Wire Connectors 90 pcs, 221 Series Electrical Connectors Assortment with Case" on amazon $40 Usd. Contains 25x WAGO 221-2401, 30x WAGO 221-412, 25x WAGO 221-413, 10x WAGO 221-415
@MatSmithLondon 2 роки тому
I don't think you should have posted this video until they have UK stock of the enormous oversized Wago 221 camera left... where can I get one of those? I can see it would be very useful.
@SamButlerUK Рік тому
Used for underground cable jointing, along with 5L of gel
@gavinnoname1424 Рік тому
With that large Wago, I guess you just shove the whole SWA into it!
@jagarcogheart 2 роки тому
8:33 Did you get that light whit color select from Etman Distrubution?
@efixx 2 роки тому
They are from Knightsbridge in 🇬🇧
@rimmersbryggeri 2 роки тому
These are good but for a permanent connection what about an uninsulated butt crimp and heat shrink? Might not be up to code in all settings I guess.
@thattoolguy9432 2 роки тому
Brilliant, been waiting ages for this ... can they be used as MF in the lite box? as with the wagobox 221 you have the channel to stop the levers opening .. not sure if you know .. wagos now come in wiska boxes with its own clip mounted rail.. they're great
@efixx 2 роки тому
So MF symbol on the Wago box light yet
@williambelford9661 Рік тому
Isn't the current rating of butt connectors indicated by the colour of the connector? The various ones I've used have always had the rating on the packaging 🤔
@kbj8594 11 місяців тому
Where do i find the wago box for the splice connectors??
@skyking6989 11 місяців тому
I worked for an electrical company and they about had a stroke and all but threatened to fire me when i brought up wago connectors instead of wire nuts. They didn't wanna hear how much time we could save. Wagos for these "old school" electricans is a very very dirty word
@chrismoyler 2 місяці тому
Yes, a really lovely in line connection Really love all WAGO stuff! BUT... there's always a but.. Many lighting jobs require a loop in and a loop out for, say, 4 downlights operated by a single switch- very common. The problem with existing WAGO boxes is that all the cables come in at one end. The result is that it's difficult to pull the box out of the ceiling through the downlighter. Looping the feed in and out of one end, and the downlighter connection at the other end would be really elegant. What think you please??
@Chequr_Prostate 2 роки тому
Would have been nice if they sold a drill template with the clickin back plate.
@lesliewatts7537 Рік тому
are wago 221 good for a high amp DC cable running at 48v 900w motor ?
@pn8902 2 роки тому
The extra plate to clip that tray into the wagobox light seems quite unnecessary. The cord grips should suffice easily or they could have just made the barbs on the tray clip into the wago box light with two holes for the barbs to go into (and discontinue the old light box without the holes so its not confusing having the 2 versions)
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
No need to use the mounting carriers in the WAGOBOX Light, the connectors can be placed loose inside. The mounting carriers are more for when you make your own box or panel. Hope this helps.
@pn8902 2 роки тому
@@daviddraper9256 Yeah seems more like it. I thought they showed the tray used with the box because thats the intended way.
@unitrader403 Рік тому
i wonder if you could stack two carriers in this box too, for example if you have to connect 5 Wires (like Power + DALI, or 3 Phase Power). Size wise it looked like it should fit...
@patrickshevlane3911 Рік тому
Where can I get information of the inline ‘Carrier’ and ‘Fixing Plate’ that holds the inlet connectors inside the wago light box?
@helenmole4982 Рік тому
Both are currently available as one whole unit from here: connector-warehouse.co.uk/products/wago-221-2533-carrier?_pos=1&_sid=8add24b5b&_ss=r
@trdscfjc Рік тому
Is there a wago style connector for 6awg and/or 8awg wire?
@christastic100 2 роки тому
Absolutely love wago connectors. I will be grabbing some of those. Just wondering what you would use the open tray type for?
@efixx 2 роки тому
Used inside a light fitting or other OEM equipment. 👍
@gomdolri Рік тому
나는 그것을 공장 시설에 적용하기 시작했고, 그것은 안전한 연결과 손쉬운 교체를 할수 있게 되었다, 매우 만족합니다😂
@johnboyginger Рік тому
Cannot for the life of me find the 3 way carrier + adaptor for using in the Light Box. Do they exist in the UK?
@kimmarshall5173 15 днів тому
Defo the way 2 go.
@paulg6858 2 роки тому
Minimum & maximum conductor sizes do not correlate between mm2 and AWG. From Wago's data sheet:- Solid conductor 0.2 … 4 mm² / 20 … 14 AWG Stranded conductor 0.2 … 2.5 mm² / 18 … 14 AWG Fine-stranded conductor 0.2 … 4 mm² / 18 … 14 AWG (Assuming 0.2mm2 = 24AWG and 4.0mm2 = 11AWG).
@rz9196 Рік тому
I’ve noticed it was well. Could somebody explain, please???
@gene9230 9 місяців тому
wagoo says: Eindrähtiger Leiter 0,2 … 4 mm² / 24 … 12 AWG Mehrdrähtiger Leiter 0,2 … 4 mm² / 24 … 12 AWG Feindrähtiger Leiter 0,14 … 4 mm² / 24 … 12 AWG if you find differences it's probably because you compare diameters between certifications under different codes
@anthonyking489 4 дні тому
Is there a wago connector that I could use to extend a cooker point?
@Hermiel 2 роки тому
I just come to hear you guys say "way-go".
@cimen9793 Рік тому
hi, can I use wago connector with jumper wires?
@douglasthompson2740 4 місяці тому
I see that the inline 221 is only rated to #14 wire whereas the side by side 221 is rated to #12 probably the most used size in the U.S. for residential wiring. Is there another model that is inline and rated for #12?
@BigRedViking89 10 місяців тому
Are these a prototype…. I can’t seem to find them at any wholesalers. What is the the full product number.
@deadprivacy 2 роки тому
getting a box for auto wiring , butt connectors and heat shrink often come with access issues...these are great.
@BooDevil65 Рік тому
What's the difference between the -2401 and -2411?
@leoncarter4264 10 місяців тому
Can these be used for AWG16 speaker wire
@efixx 10 місяців тому
Yes
@johnhammon703 2 роки тому
Is that big wago actually functional or just a prop? Because the real ones hurt if you snap your finger when closing them. I can't imagine how that big one would feel lol...
@efixx 2 роки тому
It’s just a prop - but Wago make a 285Amp screwless connector which has a finger warning ⚠️
@seandempsey7351 2 роки тому
Brilliant. Another fantastic Connector from the fantastic brand wago, I could have done with a few of them a couple of months ago. What is the price per box please? Fantastic video guy’s as always ❤️❤️👍👍👍👍
@efixx 2 роки тому
Google Wago 221 inline and you’ll get a load of prices pop up.
@seandempsey7351 2 роки тому
@@efixx thank you . But I understand why you can’t just tell us the price,
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
Hi Sean. List price is currently £20.40 for 60pcs
@corglass 2 роки тому
@@seandempsey7351 Google is more up to date. Any prices in the comments will be outdated and live here for years
@seandempsey7351 2 роки тому
@@daviddraper9256 thank you
@AndrewN75 4 місяці тому
I would like to see a loop in loop out with lamp and switch drops. I just cannot visualise how that would look
@randomlife7935 11 місяців тому
Can you use twin ferrules on Wago 221's?
@ppdan 10 місяців тому
You shouldn't and I am pretty sure Wago doesn't approve it.
@mrseanpride6449 2 роки тому
Are you meant to twist the copper?
@mrseanpride6449 2 роки тому
@@sonacphotos that earth wasn’t solid core copper
@just4therecord Рік тому
whats the difference between 2411 and 2401?
@philiptaylor1399 2 роки тому
can you use ferrules in wagos
@efixx 2 роки тому
Yes but will slightly reduce the size of the conductor.
@empty9360 2 роки тому
Yes but it isn't really necessary.
@rushingrushing3207 Рік тому
Does wago put out a catalog?
@efixx Рік тому
No you’ll have to get busy with the part numbering system.
@paul_my_plumbs_uk 2 роки тому
👍👍💯💯
@zoltrix7779 Рік тому
Aussie says. BP connector does everything.
@danielfisher-gh8el Рік тому
Easy solution is to use Hellerman Tyton crimps, waterproof ones are best as the most reliable connection
@acespark1 2 роки тому
A great solution for lighting slightly better than twisting ends together and covering with tape 😁🤡🐔
@efixx 2 роки тому
😂
@raychambers3646 2 роки тому
I have seen this done , with sellotape !
@1988dgs 2 роки тому
😲 you use tape?
@grahamturner6119 2 роки тому
Use a soldered joint cheap and reliable
@grahamturner6119 2 роки тому
@@sonacphotos yes every thing has to be done quickly nowadays that's why wago,s came in every thing has to be done faster faster faster what a world
@odinnln5694 2 роки тому
Needs a DIN rail fitting with a commoning bar, but otherwise "a very useful engine".
@efixx 2 роки тому
They have a din rail holder - but for common I h you need to look at the topjobs - ukposts.info/have/v-deo/eWmceqWDnpeotWg.html
@odinnln5694 2 роки тому
@@efixx The problem with topjobs is that they require fairly deep boxes, where the 221 is flat and can be fitted in a shallow box. They can of course be commoned with the loss of half the connection capacity by fitting a commoning bar to one side.
@MatthewHawkyard 2 роки тому
The ideal push through has been a great piece of kit. But if these became MF they could be really great
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
The connectors are free from maintenance and a clip is being designed to make the WAGOBOX Light MF to BS5733
@rayc1503 Рік тому
The Ideal spliceline are maintenance free if used in conjunction with ideals MF marked junction box. They will be max Amp rated according to the input voltage. Here in the the it's 16 Amp max.
@helenmole4982 Рік тому
Great news Matthew! WAGOBOX Light is now MF to BS5733 when using the Mounting & Terminal Carrier together with the 221 Inline Connectors.
@whatdoyouthink7381 2 роки тому
So this is an efixx video but it sounds like a wago commercial they even have it set up that you have to keep it to the topic when you try to make a comment this is not a video about the connector it's a commercial.
@efixx 2 роки тому
Let us know what connectors you are using Bud Dawg perhaps we can take a look at them.
@CACBCCCU Рік тому
Probing wires with the wagobox is too easy. Just kidding. The chandelier in my yacht could use these. I can't stop.
@jimbob1ist 2 роки тому
I noticed you didn't mention maintenance free in the video. Hopefully WAGO will produce a suitable enclosure for these to make them MF.
@efixx 2 роки тому
No indication of MF or aggregate current ratings on the Wago box light atm.
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
On its way just being submitted for testing
@JohnSmith-ws7fq 2 роки тому
@@daviddraper9256 That would be great if so. A "through" MF solution is something missing from Wago's portfolio. Will it be rated for rings or is it expected to be for lighting circuits only?
@Eicles 2 роки тому
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq Completely agree. A "through" version of the WAGOBOX 221-4 would be ideal.
@daviddraper9256 2 роки тому
@@JohnSmith-ws7fq Hopefully it will be rated for rings, just depends on how the tests go.
@jamesmoon5632 2 роки тому
I use the ideal inline splice for solid cables better than these and 32A rated. I hate fitting the cable tie id prefer a screw
@efixx 2 роки тому
These are rated at 32A
@stephenspiby4021 2 роки тому
Can the wago be used fo a connection that will not be accesible
@ef7480 Рік тому
Only if you secure them in the correct box and seal it with a ty wrap- must have MF on the box.
@helmanfrow 10 місяців тому
This is why we leave service loops in the wall.
@awesomedee5421 Рік тому
Why don't they have 4 inline carriers?
@granite676 2 роки тому
I find it very amusing that the electrical industry in the uk has only just discovered the use of connectors like the WAGO system. They've been using em for ages in other countries but as usual we're at the back of the queue, in the british electrical industry. We're so backward at coming forward it's laughable because we like to think the 'british way' is the only way ! Great to see the industry is open to new ideas and technology now but fgs it's took em long enough !!!
@jonanders76 Рік тому
Really? Dont know where you've been hiding. Ive been using connectors like helicons & wagos for years, as have most electricians I know, so not a recent discovery at all.
@johnh8546 Рік тому
Wagos are the most German thing imaginable. An over-engineered solution to a problem that is worse than the previous methods, but looks better.
@Ad-gn8pl 10 місяців тому
Ideal spliceline has been around for years and is much shorter than these look
@raychambers3646 2 роки тому
Any chance of doing these connections on steps ?
@BK-it6te 2 роки тому
Very good but connectors to big
@PNWLiving1725 Рік тому
Is it water protected?
@cag9284 Рік тому
Gone is almost the terminal screwdriver lo....
@GoatZilla 2 роки тому
Ferrules on larger sizes probably won't fit.
@grzeniu7246 2 роки тому
10:35 really poor resolution of 0.1, probably even beyond the accuracy range of the meter
@raymurphy9749 2 роки тому
Is that a 300 amp wago on the desk there guys? 😂
@stevehowes Рік тому
Used by the DNO in the street 😁
@woolmarket 6 місяців тому
Is it necessary to twist the wire strands into a pigtail before installing them in the connector? Or should I leave them straight (as is) immediately after removing the insulation?
@TheBroz 2 місяці тому
Straight
@MrMoss786 Рік тому
Aliexpress had this long ago
@fabiankeppler315 2 роки тому
can I have a bag of 'WAGO' please, Here's my kidney..
@efixx 2 роки тому
Sorry we only accept hearts and minds as payment.
@trevornelmes9331 2 роки тому
And for their next trick? 2 into 1, stacked (staggered like a pyramid) and maybe 3 into 1 inline connectors. You can see that coming. A 2 into 1 allowing you to splice into a ring final with a spur. Maybe 3 into 1 to take switched power to three light pendants in one?
@Swwils 2 роки тому
Should just discouraged use of rings and not matching CPC sizes.
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