Elon Reveals Starship Version 3; We Have Questions!
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18 днів томуThe latest revelations from Elon Musk's internal SpaceX presentation, covering Starship Versions 2 and 3, including enhanced performance figures and design evolutions. Includes the upcoming booster catch simulations planned for Flight 4 and potential actual catches in Flight 5.
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@tmcb_ 17 днів тому
"What's for lunch?" LOL
@clayel1 16 днів тому
asking the real questions here
@Vytirix_RBX 16 днів тому
Daily dose of FTS and methalox soda, anyone?
@sapiotone 16 днів тому
Bacon?
@thatyoudliketoknow1628 16 днів тому
Protein drinks for maximum godlike physique
@laurenmp7486 8 днів тому
A Saturn V had half the thrust of a Starship and could put over 100 tons into space. So the fact Elon is saying it could only do 40 to 50 tons means there's something really not right.
@Awaken2067833758 2 дні тому
If Musk is a conman everything makes sense
@kennethferland5579 День тому
Yep, this is a huge glaring warning that this development effort is on the rocks. Trying to stretch your rocke and pull forward thrust incresses which should be the impovements of several years of refinement just to get to the original performance mark is a sign of extreme desperation.
@laurenmp7486 День тому
@@kennethferland5579 also when Falcon Heavy, with a third of the thrust of Starship can put 40 to 50 tons into low earth orbit, the idea that at present Starship can't do any better, like something has to really be up.
@f1o18iwi9 20 годин тому
he´s sanke oil salesman
@Awaken2067833758 17 годин тому
@@laurenmp7486 by how the first and the latest lauch went, I think starship can barely put itself in leo with no cargo
@michaeldeierhoi4096 16 днів тому
Your presentation was interesting however it also reflects Elon's tendency to jump way ahead of reality at the present. When it came to the questions at the end I thought 'we'll see it when we see it'.
@Rogue_Leader 3 дні тому
We won’t see it. Musk is a hype man who’s fooling his investors.
@ANTIStraussian 15 годин тому
None of the Mars city stuff is close to reality. Majority of the presentation was all lies and a copy of his last 2 speeches.
@Imagine_Beyond 16 днів тому
20:53 What’s for lunch? That’s the most important question out of all :)
@MidnightCustoms111 16 днів тому
Tacos
@Vytirix_RBX 16 днів тому
Bacon bacon bacon!!
@peterford5408 16 днів тому
Whoever put that line in has plausible deniability. It was just a typo! Q: What's for LAUNCH? A: Definitely not TEA-TEB.
@AdrieKooijman 8 днів тому
By now most people have discovered that if Elon says 'next year' he actually means 'in my dreams'. And just like with normal human beings dreams only very occasionally come true. 😊
@ThinkingNow 22 години тому
I had never fully understood imaginary numbers until I heard Elon make a prediction.
@LLachs283 12 хвилин тому
but dont you understand? he works 80 hours a week and sleeps on the factories floor! XD
@davidelang 17 днів тому
more pressure in the chamber can be due to more pressure in the pumps, or due to less pressure loss between the pumps and the chamber. simplifying the plumbing is one good way to reduce the pressure loss between the pumps and the chamber.
@daveevans2527 17 днів тому
Good point. NASA did the that with the Shuttle's engine.
@cal9688 11 днів тому
Wake me up when that thing lands well. In say 100 years
@MickRonald 17 днів тому
Lots of questions raised. Looking forward to future videos updating us with the answers as they become available. Thank you NSF.
@jwoak0913 17 днів тому
Good job Adrian and thx for the update.
@TheBonsaiZone 16 днів тому
Version 5 will be so tall, Starship will be in orbit without even firing the booster.
@genelomas332 16 днів тому
Space elevator!? 😉
@kamikazeuk2434 17 днів тому
Awesome.... Thanks Team NSF for the content
@photogeNK 17 днів тому
That long Starship just won't stop haunting my dreams man..
@thatyoudliketoknow1628 16 днів тому
Lucky u
@trystanbarnett2477 16 днів тому
Real im traumatised
@kennethc2466 11 днів тому
Suction of the Elon member, will be a nightmare of normal humans. SIMPs, on the other hand, will revel in the 'long starship dreams', as they clean their sheets of Elon ecto 'plasum'.
@dmrr7739 4 дні тому
I think the long design is meant to chase some marginal improvement in capability, as the spacecraft are currently underperforming.
@trystanbarnett2477 4 дні тому
@@dmrr7739 oh yes absolutely agree it’s definitely a performance optimisation i just dont like how it looks haha
@JGS123WRPTP 17 днів тому
Brilliant detail!
@TheScientificPotato 17 днів тому
Great video answered a lot of questions I had. Thank you NSF!
@Ellie-pc4rc 13 днів тому
Congrats on 1million subscribers !
@mattc.310 16 днів тому
Thanks NSF for the look at the Starship update presentation. Stretching the ships is the only way to not run out of propellant to complete the tests, aside from fixing the anomalies. The interesting part is that all of the infrastructure is built for version one. Remember, the goal of these test articles and testing campaign is to develop a viable system to be a part of getting humans back on the Lunar Surface. It's not about starlink, and it's not about Mars. He is doing this on NASAs' dime and is very late on the contracted timeline. Now the 100 T to orbit promised with v1 is actually closer to 45 t? It's going to be an interesting Summer. What IS for lunch?
@RyanSmith-dy7fk 17 днів тому
Thanks for the great breakdown, Adrian.
@muleskinnerfilms6719 17 днів тому
Well done guys!
@corrinastanley125 17 днів тому
Thanks Adrian and NSF team, great update and explanations. I think they might be babying the engines to ensure they complete the mission. They can learn how much more they can push once they inspect the returned engines.
@matthewkaiser7803 17 днів тому
20:55 Bacon is the answer
@Midcon77 17 днів тому
A safe and valid answer. Bacon always is an answer for any question that can conceivably be asked. Well played. :)
@djw7141 16 днів тому
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@tbjtbj7930 16 днів тому
Bacon, Discovery, and more cowbell.
@Midcon77 16 днів тому
@@tbjtbj7930 Also a satisfactory answer.
@oldmanstumpie1061 15 днів тому
Fascinating. Not sure how I felt like that 20 minute video only went for 5 minutes. So much good stuff in there. Live long and prosper NSF.
@willneal-boyd7161 16 днів тому
Amazing video! Would also love to see a video on the other parts of the presentation like Moon Base Alpha, different industries coming together for Mars development, etc. But love this technical side of Starship!
@johnhanson6039 17 днів тому
I think you already went too deep with those renders, none of this should be expected to be exact, they most likely dont know themselves
@pewterhacker 15 днів тому
@20:25 "A lot of this is very notional". That's a very nice way of putting it.
@lesumsi 15 днів тому
I would expect a lot of the major changes to come with the next iteration of Mechazilla.
@Eddy525_violin 17 днів тому
Im a simple guy. I see a NSF Starship video, I click. Wow so original I know right
@Bluswede 16 днів тому
Simple is good...less to go sideways! Kinda' puts Mama's, Simple is as simple does." statement in a whole new light, dunnit?
@richardknapp570 16 днів тому
Excited...and can't wait to see them start testing V2s!
@user-jp8wb8th2r 17 днів тому
Great video, thank you for the commentary.
@dredlock3000 17 днів тому
Cheers NSF!!!
@joansparky4439 17 днів тому
nice work, thanks
@spacemanmat 16 днів тому
The hotstage changes are all about reclaiming the space lost when they retrofitted the original hotstage. Pretty sure what they have done is to bring the tank dome together with the hostage diverter. As a result the grid fin actuators need to be moved down so are recessed into the tank.
@corycrandell2682 16 днів тому
What an exciting time! I remember watching hopper doing its thing and thinking how cool it would be when they actually build a starship. And here we are.
@larryscarr3897 6 днів тому
Musk is a con its time to stop the idiot from killing more people.
@Spacenoodlesisgreat 17 днів тому
Oh cool member’s only!
@iamaduckquack 16 днів тому
For a few hours.
@danswan1047 16 днів тому
What an outstanding overview of this prototype vehicle. You folks are amazing. Great job.
@Paulobrrs 15 днів тому
Maybe we will see a new version of the booster after the new stage zero.
@hawkdsl 13 днів тому
A couple of things that maid me go Hmmmm; V1 has LESS payload capacity then Falcon Heavy. The assembled employees acted as though they would have loved to be anywhere but there. V3 is probably what is required to actually go to Mars, and not just talk about it. I do hope they make V3, if for no only reason than it's just gigantic. Despite every fan channel on the planet declaring how "fast" SpaceX is, it only appears that way. They have years to go before people fly on those things, and I doubt NASA will ever allow it's Astronauts to land on earth in them.
@ale131296 12 днів тому
V1 is also flying on fully reusable configuration. Falcon Heavy in that kind of configuration wouldn't be able to lift more than 10-15 tonnes
@hawkdsl 12 днів тому
@@ale131296 No, V1 was supposed to lift 100-150 tons in full reusable mode. But thanks for the reply.
@ale131296 12 днів тому
@@hawkdsl I'm not talking about "supposed". I'm saying that you're comparing the performance of a rocket in fully reusable mode with one in fully expendable mode (Falcon Heavy) which is apples to oranges.
@thomvinson 16 днів тому
Nicely done!
@TheGalacticIndian 17 днів тому
Honestly - how stage zero looked after OFT-1 is peanuts compared to OFT-5 aftermath with supersonic booster smashing into the tower or one of the high bays👀
@hamzahkhan8952 17 днів тому
im pretty sure the booster reaches subsonic speeds before the landing burn starts. the booster would be aiming for outside the launch site when its manuvering with its grid fins (incase engines fails or it loses control) so it would prob not hit anything important. its possible that it could crash into the pad after the landing burn starts. but if it did, it would be at considerably lower speeds than that of it during free fall. also, if the booster ever diverted from its intented path towards the launch or build site, im sure AFTS would destroy the booster before impact.
@shaung949 16 днів тому
That would be why it comes in at such an angle to the tower, it makes the initial decent over water. Only if things are going well would it turn to land on the tower.
@cyteen02 16 днів тому
Love the level of detail you guys go into in this vid - thanks NSF
@JohnSmith-yp2nt 16 днів тому
Raptor is fuckin sick. That's all i got to say.
@bobthegreat297 17 днів тому
thanks nsf!
@MichaelSmith-kn4cl 16 днів тому
Excellent assessment of the numbers, thank you!
@TheMarcusGomez 16 днів тому
Going to need bigger Mega bays ....Giga bays!😮
@The_Devil_Riser 17 днів тому
The booster will cook the landing zone if it’s anything like the render
@MrKellymcilrath 17 днів тому
Great video NSF, & Adrian, Thank you, You answered many questions, but left many more to be answered!
@59seank 16 днів тому
Great job Adrian!
@davidbritton-ohl1672 15 днів тому
Thanks!
@Tiki71 16 днів тому
I hope you guys keep a separate tracking camera on the booster for this next flight.
@Naultarous 17 днів тому
More questions than answers .. marketing 102. Always leave them wanting more.
@iamaduckquack 16 днів тому
Yep, thats how I treat my Mrs.
@rtqii 16 днів тому
After all, it is just marketing. Blowing up rockets is not really rocket science.
@zachreyhelmberger894 13 днів тому
Fantastic presentation!! Well done!
@Moosmannl 17 днів тому
Metric system is so much better.
@carrie4696 17 днів тому
Congrats on 1M fam (I know you’re not making a thing of it)
@cratecruncher4974 14 днів тому
Nice deep dive on that Elon presentation. That new hot staging configuration reminds me of '60s Soviet design.
@pipersall6761 17 днів тому
Its just amazing to me how the stack could take the pressure of all those raptors pushing upward with the mass of Starship and 100 tons of payload pressing down at the same time. Wow.
@philipaubin4679 6 днів тому
It hasn't.
@Av8or7 16 днів тому
Hopefully 4 on May the Fourth be with you.
@michaelkeane6518 16 днів тому
WOW Lot of information!
@potloodthedutch 17 днів тому
Please tell me im not the only one hearing Starship version "Free" :)
@maurice_walker 17 днів тому
th is hard to pronounce for many native German speakers since such a sound doesn't exist in German. Similar to many native English speakers struggling with pronouncing the German ch.
@ViperPilot16 16 днів тому
Thanks for buying Winrar
@opcn18 16 днів тому
It seems like we are being offered a significant upgrade in the next version to a capability below what was talked about for this version.
@miamisasquatch 16 днів тому
You've finally started to realize Elon is full of shit?
@kargaroc386 15 днів тому
Let me know when someone else single-handedly flies and lands a hundred partially-reusable rockets a year, until then stop whining.
@opcn18 15 днів тому
@@kargaroc386 that is the “your father works hard to feed this family so when he hits you keep your mouth shut” excuse for spacex here.
@robnobert 15 днів тому
@@opcn18 that is the "I was abused so I'm fucking braindead and can only think in terms of abuse metaphors" response here
@benjaminmeusburger4254 15 днів тому
@@kargaroc386 they signed a contract with NASA to land a rocket on the moon in 2027 and still nobody is able to name the number of Starships they would need to refill in orbit in ITC3 they had issues with playing straight and opening a door Don't you think that is fishy?
@sadequrrahman1910 16 днів тому
Congratulations
@douglaspeale9727 16 днів тому
In the ring section factory clip (14:18), that fourth ring on the far right seems to have a dome on top like the top of booster 2 or booster 3 in the comparison picture (9:25)
@mattfarrar5472 17 днів тому
I was waiting for this! To be honest though I'd completely forget about V3 it will change a heap by the time they get to it!
@thethirdeve5089 17 днів тому
2 videos one day? epic
@james-reid 16 днів тому
Thanks Team NSF! I'm wondering... being conscious that Starship 3 is significantly taller than 1 and 2, is there anything to indicate that the launch towers are being built to accommodate this (ie taller from the beginning / could be stretched in the future (would particularly mean that the lower parts of the towers would need to be designed to take more weight than what they would initially need to carry) Thanks!
@imconsequetau5275 15 днів тому
It might be that the chopsticks must be made shorter to assure they handle greater mass (at the shorter tips), and the ship QD definately must be raised. There is reason to believe that the remainder of the OLM and Mechazilla are adequate. The lifting hardpoints can be kept at the current heights/altitude of the stacked pair.
@chrismoule7242 17 днів тому
This is excellent stuff - thank you. Several questions that await answers - brilliant. Looking forward to seeing & hearing about them!
@timw6596 16 днів тому
Maybe the reason that the OLM and tower is slowed is that they are designing it for version 3 super tall Starships !
@genelomas332 16 днів тому
With IFT4 planning a soft water landing of the booster some 25ks down range, will NSF be putting a starlink-enabled tracking camera on a barge 15ks offshore, and just north of the exclusion zone? Seems like a premo opportunity for a one-of-a-kind bit of footage.
@SebastianWellsTL 16 днів тому
Very cool!
@bryanillenberg 17 днів тому
They are probably throttling down the R3 so that they can suffer no negative affects from an engine out. With 90% throttle (which is almost identical to what the booster seems to be under for V2), it can lose 3 engines and still be at full thrust. This aligns with what we know for aborts: SpaceX can accept up to 3 engines out and still lift off (we're looking at you, B7). For the v2 ship, the throttle is a bit different: 94%. This is a roughly 8% increase in throttle when compared to v1. However, the Flight 3 ship thrust may have been an average. For the last ~30 second of the burn, they were just using the RSL. With a 6 minute burn, that means the last 30 seconds are 47% thrust. This multiplies average thrust by 96%, and when factoring in the average thrust, this provides the same 90% throttle for the engines. Why increase throttle by 4%, though? 90% throttle doesn't help the v2 ship, since it lacks true engine-out capacity. And 100% makes the loss of an engine even more crippling. 94% is a nice balance.
@renesoucy3444 17 днів тому
How long a Raptor engine would last at 100% thrust in a static fire? I would really like to see that… You see, how could the booster be ready to fly again and again if this engine can’t suffer a 9 minutes static fire like the RS-25 can? 9 minutes at 100% thrust, if it can’t then it’s pointless to say that the booster will be ready to go again… because it can’t, period.
@bryanillenberg 17 днів тому
@@renesoucy3444 Raptor is capable of rapid relight, so it could probably endure much longer firings than the SSME could ever hope to achieve.
@renesoucy3444 17 днів тому
@@bryanillenberg Talking like a true SpaceX fan… I’m sure that after 4 minutes at 100%, the Raptor would melt.
@rokadamlje5365 17 днів тому
Looking at acceleration graphs, Flight3 should have been acceleration near 4G around meco, while it was barely above 2. So raptors were throttled down to even 60%...
@bryanillenberg 17 днів тому
@@renesoucy3444 Any proof of that? They can run at 90% for almost six minutes, I think 100 at four is very doable. Also, rapid relight is way more taxing that adding a few extra minutes.
@iandennis1 17 днів тому
Thank you for this excellent update!
@1601_Nicolas 16 днів тому
Version 3 looks quite weird with the Starship almost as tall as Super Heavy.
@TheWadetube 14 днів тому
good job
@MrBlackhiller 16 днів тому
I think they will build the second OLIT for the new v2+3 Booster specs. So they can go on with testing v1 boosters und v2 ships. When OLIT 2 is functional they will change to booster v2 and make OLIT 1 changes. That would privide constand testing.
@daviddeflyer8671 16 днів тому
Regarding thrust differences between advertised and stated (for IFT3), I'd suspect they are using older engines since the booster and ship were made quite a while ago.
@clytle374 16 днів тому
Note that the flight 3 thrust numbers were at liftoff and initial. I assume without payload you throttle down to keep the velocities the same as if you had a payload.
@jasonmcgee7457 16 днів тому
6:33 I noticed on the X stream for the launch attempt that at the time of lift off, the boosters fuel tank was not completely full. Check it out yourselves. It does line with these numbers. I still don't know why they did it though.
@Spherical_Cow 15 днів тому
They had no payload mass on the Ship, and they didn't want to repeat the excess propellant dumping exercise that doomed the second flight. So, I believe both Ship and Booster were loaded to only ~85% of full capacity (as can be observed also on the SpaceX 'telemetry' graphics around 10 min prior to launch.)
@aq_ua 16 днів тому
Removing the heat shield on super heavy is wild
@not2busy 17 днів тому
Those positioning thrusters may have to fight hard against a good stiff sea-breeze, unless captures will only be attempted in ideal conditions.
@proesterchen 17 днів тому
Of course, it's Adrian talking about the Long Stick 3.
@c.s.miller 17 днів тому
Hmm what is for lunch?
@rchilton 17 днів тому
Oooooh I'm all special!
@ReinReads 17 днів тому
What is the maximum height of a booster that can be built in the megabays ? Could they tear down high bay for an extra tall megabay for taller boosters? Leaving the existing megabays for taller starships at higher production volumes?
@markhuebner7580 16 днів тому
Whoohoo! "...Changes many...", I want to see thrust augmentation rings, Starship & booster, turning all those long flametails into propulsion!
@AdamJ03 17 днів тому
But seriously, what's for lunch!? ❤
@vantadaga 17 днів тому
People are forgetting the booster stretch wont fit through the megabay door
@schrodingerscat1863 16 днів тому
Won't fit though the current megabay door...
@vantadaga 16 днів тому
@@schrodingerscat1863 Yes, current boosters are already tight for space
@schrodingerscat1863 16 днів тому
@@vantadaga I think we will see more taller buildings getting put up before we see new versions of Starship or boosters.
@thomasdickson35 16 днів тому
Well you certainly can't change the height of a steel building, so they're doomed. Good point.
@nightsky1979 17 днів тому
For me the big question is why SpaceX focus on the version with pez doors only. It seems to be death end, as they can apply that only for deploy starlinks and nothing else, but there was already a lot of efforts given to stanghten structure around pez doors, try pez doors performance etc. If that version take so much effort how long it take to prepare "fuel tank" , different / bigger satellite deploy version or cargo for ISS and of course HLS versions. In my opinion they should focus on more universal version, what do you think?
@KestutisJanuskevicius 15 днів тому
very good recap
@RussW_Comments 17 днів тому
Seems more efficient to have an OLM dedicated to landing (no plumbing for launching) ... still think a mobile transporter for catching is better (the "legs" would be on the transporter not the booster/starship). This approach would increase the ability of the "ground" to adjust its location ...
@Duckariffic 16 днів тому
3 booster grid fins!!!!
@notsomadscientist9602 17 днів тому
Mind blown!
@ThexBorg 16 днів тому
Such a tall Ship landing vertically on the Moon and Mars, seems odd now?
@austinskirvin01 17 днів тому
The real question is "what's for lunch?"
@alexlabs4858 16 днів тому
I wonder if the current pad setup could even handle the power of a starship V3 launch
@terryp.luvsjenifer.winklem1314 17 днів тому
So true
@thomasbedford1258 17 днів тому
there going to have to increase the size of the launch tower for upgrade version 3 possibly 2 as well as how would they get astronauts in there
@Rawkus919 16 днів тому
The crowd response is telling.
@bear4278 11 днів тому
Especially when you remember that they are all SpaceX employees! It is really not a good look when the people actually designing and building the thing are just quietly staring at Musk like he has gone completely insane.
@ChrisUK27 12 днів тому
So the V1 of New Glenn will take a similar payload mass to LEO as Starship V1?
@hazelnut11022 17 днів тому
"What's for lunch?"😂😂😂
@SVanDykTX 17 днів тому
Great video. I hope we get some of these answers soon. It would be amazing if Elon would do a subscriber space and address some of these questions with us.
@bobolam7342 14 днів тому
It seems (looking at how part of the heat shield now appears behind them) that ship V2/3 have the smaller, multiplanar and tilted forward flaps Elon mentioned 3 years ago.
@Supac617 16 днів тому
Earthquake at 17:00 ?? Why does the camera start shaking?
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