u can't, a non-profit doesn't have shares or owned by anyone, it said to be owned by boards members but owning in this respect is more about managing, those board members can't make money from being a board member or do stuff that conflict with their interest. a non-profit can sell assets to a for-profit but not the operation. open AI isn't really selling asset it being shadow controlled by one company that what open AI selling to microsoft which is illegal. shit like that is hard to prove in court but should be very clear to anyone that its illegal regardless if they gonna be caught or not

*trump avoided paying tax, he said he is smart. there're loopholes can that be leveraged by some*

@@mdm032lol cmon

You can't, and they didn't. The company is still a non-profit.

​@@mdm032 or have this thing called knowledge lol

Facts

"Don't be evil" is Google's former motto, and a phrase used in Google's corporate code of conduct. "former motto" xD

"We are above good and evil"

Earlier I thought Google had acquired them?

Literally founded on lies lmao

Mwuahaha, fools investing into NVDA as an AI bet don't even know that it's MSFT that they should be investing into! Now their portfolios are being put on a conveyor belt towards a guillotine, where they will meet their untimely loss of value, while I reap the rewards! Mwuahahaha!

Literally, I'm in doubt that was actually said lmao

​​@@andrewtran9870he did not said it quiet literally. But most of it is real. This is his actual quote. "As a partner, I think we deserve to be consulted on big decisions, It is not a hands-off. We are in there. We are below them, above them, and around them. It is a joint project." Look up the interview of him by Kara Swisher. He said it during the whole Altman firing debacle. Pretty much admitting that Microsoft have serious influence on OpenAI.

@@andrewtran9870 Well, it's part of the lawsuit now

It looks like the quote came from Nadella's interview for the November 20, 2023 episode of the _On With Kara Swisher_ podcast. Crazy.

*Nutella quote

That's because Open AI is not using any kind of revolutionary technology. All its advances are from Google's open source research such as Tensorflow and NLTK. What IS different though is the scale and investment poured into training GPT and the amount of time spent into refining the responses. So when Microsoft's CEO says that they have the employees, the tech, the IP, he means that Microsoft has just as much capability as OpenAi and can ditch OpenAi if ever they decide to betray Microsoft. What Microsoft Doesn't have is the vast infrastructure to host the OpenAi servers who continue to operate at a loss, or the 5 trillion token dataset that was painstakingly compiled by real humans.

"We're above them, below them & around them" That's some metal shit

Embrace, Extend, Extinguish used to be the unofficial motto of M$.

Saudi Nutella 😂😂😂

After 1 attempt 😂

Bro needs to go on AI retention no cap frfr

​@@TayambaMwanzait's a record for Fireship

How do you not talk about AI when you're a tech youtuber? It is quite literally the most world-changing technology, equivalent to the industrial revolution. It no doubt has and will continue to change how developers develop.

​@@Patritybro doesn't understand a joke comment

I didnt understand it

​@@m7mdmorsi721Satya Nadella => Saudi Nutella

It was pretty funny

@@constantinegeist1854 arrow functions?

As a saudi i was hella confused 😂😂😂

I subscribed literally at the end of the code reporting era before he switched completely to tech news.

Good look staying sane :D this is all hype nothing else, this whole tech community lost their minds

same!!!

​@@conrad42 can you recommend a different source for information?

@@kissenklauer7011 used to watch two minute papers or mosfet/node, but I stopped watching any tech news as it gets too much. Especially with fireship and web development (also my job). At some point I felt lost to make any useful architecture decisions... (I guess its ironic that i then comment under this video :D)

Openwashing...

It's not any more nuanced, anything big they do is hidden behind their walls, anything not is still censored in favor of their political leaning to the extreme.

@@amentco8445 You need to spend more time reading things online. There's no censoring, it just uses English the way people do from all over the world - and anywhere on the face of the planet, outside the states, the things yall consider to be 'alternate opinions' are known to be crazy falsehoods or misrepresentations.

Open =/= Open Source. Open as in "Open for everyone to use... if they pay".

​@@BruceNJeffAreMyFliesif you think ChatGPT talks like a normal person then you hang around with some strange as fuck people

I am AI

I want him to talk about AI everyday!

There's enough of that around us with companies putting the word everywhere so I'd like some vegetables from time to time please.​@@Way_Of_The_Light

Cause he (it) is ai

Zero?

That his business model is under threat by superior technology?

That he's in bed with Putin?

he knows yo mama lmfao I'm genuinely sorry

one dumbest people around. I doubt he knows much

he’s invested in a different ai

It's the stock footage I don't notice that's always best. It feels like giving a lollipop to the intrusive questioning child in my brain.

I didn't even notice wow

Doesn't look like editing. It's probably how the stock footage was originally.

Generic stock footage from another country no doubt... some people use the middle finger for pointing because it is the longest finger on the hand.

With co-pilot

It's called a business deal.

@@DarkandTwisted Yeah uh, No. There's a reason Edge exists, and a reason why they were attempting to make their own non chromium based Edge before present Edge was a thing. AI is a competitive market currently, the only reason they wouldn't get involved in it is if... they were already involved in it.

​@@scarlet_phonavis6734 orig edge was ie with some modifications to push it closer to the other browsers, obv. Not close enough so they just remade all of edge with chromium.

Huh? Software vendors don't use outsourced code with contractual guarantees?

-openai- every company ever

Open ai involved in research to people disease.

You would not be talking about AI, LLMs, or OpenAI without Microsoft investment.

Elon finds out he got jewed

no, just 13 billion dollars of microsoft if left then 😢

Something that happens often to you?

So do I. My apartment was burning tonight and those silly firefighters tried dragging me away from the computer. But when I showed them what I'm watching they loosened their grip and we all finished the Code Report. We eventually got out all burned up and some fever but it was worth it.

i hate it when my ship burns down while i'm watching code report, smh

Those big bad ships in the red sea.

AI? :D

He's got a pretty replicatable blueprint for his videos to merge facts and memes with a splash of opinion. I imagine its not that difficult for him tbh

@@livinagoodlife Obviously it must've become much easier with years of doing this, but the humor, script, and everything is still top-notch... The things that do actually take work (writing, choices of memes, etc.) never seem to go down in quality.

​@@Gigusx He has a team

This was quality????

I remember reading that the non profit part is the database collection done offshore in non-profit ways for the countries hosting that databases. But the front end which uses the databases is for-profit. So it was a loophole to avoid copy right infringement and claim no wrong doing. It was a shady gray area.

@@tronophono913 I have seen that being called "data laundering"...

how was this not talked about

Mistral is funded from MS too ?

Embrace. Extent. Extinguish. Typical Microsoft strategy, they still hate open source, despite claims to the contrary.

Just yesterday I was wondering when Mistral is going to get sued or purchased by M$hit

wtf... someone stop them???

Kekw

how exactly?

What? A license for AGI? Never heard of anything like that, and doesn't sound very plausible to me. Where did you get this idea from?

@@technolus5742 read up on the lawsuit and the deal between OpenAI and MS

Microsoft's partnership with OpenAI gives Microsoft exclusive rights to all models created by OpenAI but limited to non-AGI. If OpenAI achieve AGI, Microsoft's partnership clause does not give them rights over it.

@@technolus5742 -- It's a copyright thing, not a general permit kind of thing. Think "creative commons license", not "driver's license".

@@mvmlego1212 That makes perfect sense, thanks

Quora isn't a bragging right lol, I would hide that shit on my resume.

There's a lot of facts this video misses the mark on in it's 3 minutes. I was hoping for some actual information.

@@SixOThreelike?

​@@SixOThreeyou're not making any sense. You just said he had 3 minutes. You're contradicting yourself.

Research makes no money yet does so much for the world. It's the curse in health care and als in Artificial Intelligence.

They could very easily organize a committee of major tech companies that stand to gain from progress in AI, where no one has overwhelming power and everyone is interested in funding the coordinated research effort that now would no longer have to skip alignment to beat others to market. The tricky - but not unusual - part of this would be ensuring that the coordinated effort is more appealing than individual ventures.

⁠​⁠@@tacticalassaultanteater9678no, why must big corps want to fund something they don’t control. It’s a hard sell. If openai asking users (who literally benefits from their product) to pay is to too close, why would big corp even do that?

Yeah, computational of AI require so much resource, i agree with you

It likely is, AI guzzles electricity like nothing else. Running and training the latest models requires a shit ton of money. Without Microsoft, they wouldn't have come so far. But the price of this progress means that Microsoft will control AGI and we get comic-book-villain-esque speeches from Nadella

Probably no one except the elite at OpenAI has access to the complete database.

that's... not how it works at all

You would still need tons of computing power to run all of this. VRAM requirements would be insane for stuff like GPT-4 and beyond.

Just get the code and data. Community will work on the issue of usage after that

As long as they can sue your ass out of existence, their IP is safe. And Microsoft can sure as hell sue your ass out of existence if they so desire (even if you did not in fact steal anything from them, but it happened the other way around).

Dude donated 42 billion for the cause just to make Tesla cover it with interest within one year.

Bro is yapping like he doesnt own Grok , which is also not open

yh this video is very 2007-esque

Sounds like something Elon would do lol

I don't think he "withdrew" his funds. Else he would have no grounds to sue

@@themartdog He went back on his *promise* to "donate" further 950mil.

Doesn't Elon also have a closed source competitor product?

@@neociber24 Yes. A for-profit, closed-source competitor. Seems like he's trying to reenact the Dodge v Ford all over again.

Came to the comments section to write pretty much this ^ GPT is very impressive, but calling it AGI is silly

There is no agreed upon definition of AGI...yet. Perhaps this lawsuit will get us a legal definition.

I don't think it's that hard of a sell. After all, as opposed to like all the AI systems before it, it can do a bajillion different things, without having been optimized for the specific purpose of any one of them specifically. In that sense, just about every skill it has is due to its generalness, not how its been handcrafted for some specific purpose. In that sense, it's a general purpose tool - or intelligence if you will and it's definitely artificial. If nothing else, this lawsuit might force for there to become a universally recognized definition for AGI. Sora is also just autocomplete, just for space-time-color tokens instead. It just predicts the state in about 30 ms for a position in a scene. I don't really know how you'd find it more general. It doesn't seem to be capable of doing anywhere near as many different useful things as GPT-4.

One might argue that animals are complex auto-complete machines with goals to survive and reproduce. You can also extend this to human beings if stretching the definition of 'auto complete' Having general intelligence doesn't necessarily mean you have an agenda or free will.

@@Alice_FumoJust throwing in my opinion on what could be considered "general": if I can tell a system the rules of a game/sport/problem space (in English), and it can reliably play/comment on/solve problems without other previous training data on the subject, that's truly general (possibly after asking questions, since there could be holes in my explanation). I remember seeing GPT (can't remember the version) try to play Chess, and it constantly tried to play illegal moves, despite having seen many games in its training data. I think the "it's just auto complete" statement captures this well, there's a difference between giving the statistically most likely next token in a sequence, and actually understanding what you're doing.

GPT isnt (yet)

But Q* might be

This is the entire premise of venture capitalism LOL. Everyone saw the writing on the wall: that OpenAI will hike prices and everyone who based their business model around them would have to pay. But nooooo, hype must flow!

​@@CodecrafterArtemisOpenAI was not the one who did it, it was Microsoft who bought it and put in the subscription BS. I think if OpenAI had still been by itself and not under Microsoft they would have followed the original plan which was to not have the model.

GPT3.5 is still very free, as is Bing Copilot with GPT4. I use both a lot.

​@@lmnts556 Why would things be different for any other VC company? If they were bought by Amazon or Meta, do you think they wouldn't have raised the prices?

I don't know about that... OpenAI did pull a number on everyone, but I doubt it's stopped anyone who actually needs them from using their models (talking about the costs here). Their API costs pennies and that's without any fine-tuning or optimizing. Even 3rd world countries will be able to afford them for any critical infrastructures. There's of course the issue of certain countries being restricted, but you focused on the paywalls so I'm guessing you're not talking about that.

when you know Elon has its own AI company and it's far behind OAI, you understand why he's doing this

Yeah well he was founder of OPEN AI​@@nicejungle

@@haoxus9413 Musk has recently founded xAI They are far behind openAI, that's why Musk try to slow their progress to keep up

@@nicejungle -- Regardless of his intentions, he's right that Microsoft needs to be knocked down a peg. Their approach to developing and marketing generative AI has been the greediest, most irresponsible thing that I've ever seen a corporation do.

@@mvmlego1212 I no longer care about FAANG. They can do whatever they want. I only use open source, and open models like SDXL and Mistral. This is the Way

OMG! Finally, here's a comment saying what I have been saying all along. Elon is just jealous, and it's as simple as that. All these people in the comments talking rubbish about OpenAI are just jumping on the Hate OpenAI bandwagon. They should be appreciate what OpenAI has done for the world; instead they are hating. Too many toxic people online these days. Thanks for your awesome comment, brother!🙏

Elon is just triggered because he’s not part of it 😂😂😂😂 He just wants his billions

Everything in what Microsoft invests either disappears or turns to shit

@@RunForPeace-hk1cuI mean he's right but so are you. Remember when Elon talked about how AI should be slowed down because it was developing too fast, and painted a Skynet kind of picture to us, only for him to do a 180 and try to develop his?

​@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Not really. There's nuance to everything, which is lost on people like you.

No offense but you're just wrong on the facts here. Google, not Microsoft, is the one with a partnership with Hugging Face.

neocon

Exactly. I can't believe so many people are falling for this rubbish.🤣

Me too

He can't. It's a publicity stunt with no actual goals. It's literally just virtue signaling from a Big Tech CEO. The actual incentive is obtaining adoration from dopes.

Yea microsoft is sus, real sus. Not like I think they're malicious, just that they'd be one of those path to hell with good intentions kind of companies. They needa be knocked down like 10 notches. I'd rather see this in the hands of some mad scientist looking mf'er like Elon before I'd like to see it in the hands of Microsoft.