I really like Ana Garcia......started watching more of her show and she's concise and thorough! Very well educated! ❣️🙏🇺🇲

Back before community service was a common punishment, a local judge handed out an ideal punishment to a high school boy in our small town. He has pulled the fire alarm in school to get out of class. He did it on two occasions. The judge ordered him to paint all of the fire hydrants in town. It took him weeks to do this daily after school under supervision of DPW. Everyone in town knew why he was doing it and there were no more false alarms pulled.

She's a master manipulator. She didn't take the stand, to avoid cross examination. Knowing she would get the opportunity to spout her lies unchallenged.

"Closure" never fills the void.

Our government needs a complete overhaul. Our judicial system is a disgrace.

Do not call Judge Dorow pissy. She’s a brilliant and highly competent judge.

I am 30 years old and live in a major city. I experienced seeing men masturbating in public as a child in the 2000s, and experienced catcalling in my teens and early 20s. By my mid-20s, catcalling was extremely rare and younger people I've talked to also said it happens to them only rarely. I'm glad to say it seems to be decreasing!

Why are people who torture and murder given life sentences? That's a miscarriage of justice.

Your passion for telling these stories does not go unnoticed. The depravity of the criminals is shocking.

Judge Dorow is the BEST❤️👍. Thanks Ana🌹. Enjoyed spending my Friday morning coffee with you. Have a great weekend 😊.

Huge missed opportunity to discuss how a country star throwing a chair and missing people but our teachers get assaulted by chairs, which make contact and in some cases hospitalize them, on a daily basis

Kids selling lemonade and roses on the street would have triggered a call to cops

UK here. I am certain they had knowledge of his intentions to harm . I am pretty sure people had said he was high risk. This happens a lot here and still nothing gets done because they don't see crime against women as being serious . The fact his sentence has now been reduced is disheartening. I can tell you now he will be walking the streets in ten years again. Edit: they reduced his sentence because they could not say she suffered as they believe she was unconscious 😡😡😡

This is one of my favorite guests! Always the best, Ana!!

I watched the Eyedrops trial. The victim's bank account was methodically drained, payments on loans and credit cards in the victim's name were coming due and, crucially, during the hospital visit just before the death, the poisoning went undetected. That Hernan died when she did was no accident. There was no family -- the "nephew" was the son of the deceased's friend just as Jessy herself was the daughter of the deceased's friend. That young man remained on the will even as Jessy spent down the estate and delayed settling it. He's the hero of this case -- he didn't fall for Jessy's lies and manipulations.

Our judicial system stinks.

Risk determination is very difficult to do accurately. For example in 1973 when I was 16 I was mugged with a gun to the back of my head while he hit and touched me. The person also molested 3 little 12 year old girls and another teenager of 18. As the perp was 17 at the time in 1973 the trial was in juvenile court which meant he was getting out at 21. I had nightmares for years. It was only when he was finally sentenced to life in prison after he murdered and buried the bodies in his backyard, that I felt safe. Should he have been tried as an adult? Should he have been monitored after release? As the victim I want him behind bars so I can finally feel safe. As a retired attorney at 67 now, my viewpoint has changed to reflect the complexity of the issues. (Sorry for the long comment) I just don't know the answer.

If you want your evening ruined just check the explanation the appeal court gives for the reduced sentence. Basically they concluded the sentence was too long because, since the attack was so violent she was probably knocked out pretty early on so the original judge could not claim that there was “aggravated suffering”, even though he made despicable things to her during those 9 minutes. Kid you not. Probably the most appalling ruling i’ve read in a while.

Tracy is by far the smartest attorney you’ve had on the show thus far! Please have her on more often!

In the first story, Jessie's mother was also involved in scamming money from Lynne (her friend). I think she called her mother to get her onboard with the performance of "Lynne was suicidal".

Part of the reason Judge Dorrow snapped back @ Jessie could b leftover / pent-up rage from the Darrell Brooks case......🙊

I keep hearing Michigan, but wasn’t this in Wisconsin?

There you go Free people…the Unjustice system.

My issue is our prison system isn’t set up to rehabilitate, but to punish. So how you accurately determine who is rehabilitated

Do they have people monitoring those cameras in real time?

Get Dr tamborra a mic. She's so right about the tilt to victim's concerns when law has been about an offense against the the State.

The $ was running out. All Lynn had left was condo. The judge said she was better off dead than alive for Jesse at that point. As far as I know, the council does have people monitoring cameras live.

I agree with the guest about over incarceration- here in Canada our bail system is out of control because we have no where to house new & violent criminals which results in bail and reoffending at an extremely alarming rate. I'm not sure what you've learned or read recently about Canada's bail system, but I think you, Ana, would be incredibly disheartened. Locally we had violent drug offenders released here and these 5 individuals are now arrested and charged with murder & conspiracy against a 17 year old boy

Thank u Ana for ur interaction with us fans. It really does make a difference and helps us feel a lil more connected. Thank u

Ana, I luv your podcast! I literally listen to it every Friday morning after it’s posted. Thank you 🙏

*Anna Garcia is beautiful*

If you had watched the whole trial, you would find it far more difficult to speak for Jessie.

The sentence is also, I think most importantly, to protect the public

Jesse was ready for Lynn to die because she had stolen all her money. The condo was the only remaining asset. Jessie definitely wanted Lynn dead.

I wonder if he got the eye drop idea from Agatha Christie’s Crooked House.

Such a good podcast, and this guest was great. Zara's case was so frustrating and sad. Thank you for covering these.

Ana once again this was a great episode, it was hard to get work done! Thanks for the discussion and distraction! To talk for 2 hours about how she didn’t do it is WILD!!!

Not under 30, but as a 33yo living in England my childhood was littered with such instances with grown men. I lived in a nice area and nearby a nature reserve, but between the ages of ~8-13 I had multiple experiences of grown men jumping out of bushes in walkways and running for my life, a homeless man who tried to drag me into a bush, a man who stood outside a restaurant window watching my parents and I eat dinner and then 5 minutes later being escorted to our table by a server as he told her he was with us.

This happened in Toronto. The girl got two years probation $2000 fine and 150 hours of community service.

She reminds me of famous folk singer Joan Baez (in younger version).

I call being armed with a gun a preventative measure. Has worked for me the last 5 years. My carry permit has stopped a few different and extremely scary situations. Not even sure if I would be around without the protection .🤷🏻‍♀️😢

Some many failures to protect Zara. From the court releasing him ,the police not finding him, the bar for not calling the police after he was attacking women and finally the monitors on camera not calling police when he was seen chasing women.

The UK has so many CCTV’s you can barely go anywhere there without being seen. Probably the best investment the UK has made in decades. I have no doubt the Aunt feels she lives in a Horror movie continuous loop. Even a small win of 5 years off the Monsters minimum before being eligible for parole is a HUGE DEAL! Europe isn’t known for incarcerating their prisoners for the longest times anyway.

As someone under 30, I've never been flashed. Very rarely have I had anything inappropriate said to me. Most of the time, it's a polite 'You look nice' or 'Are you dating anyone'. Honestly, with how most women are, or should be, armed with a deterrent, those are dice I wouldn't want to roll as a guy.

This podcast is insane hhh might be long like, an hour and a half long but trust me, it's worth every minute. I didn't regret a single second of it,from murder to stalking to a clever punishment for a troublemaker, it's all here, it just reminds me of a case back home that had a similar feel.

Hi Ana and Dr. Tamborra Curious to know what your opinions would be on what risk level Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt would be seeing as how neither of them have a criminal record, on paper...but have this abuse in their background.... Great show as usual!! Have a great and safe weekend TCD family!!

Anna you are a gem.

The eyedropper.woman did not get life she got 40 years altogether, and she is eligible for parole. I watched the actual sentencing, and the judge tore into her for over an hour.

Ana and Tracy ♥♥♥♥♥🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟👑👑👑👑👑

The only thing that will protect you from the worst elements of society is YOU. Cameras only help with prosecution, not prevention. You are your own first responder. Which is why I wish more women. Would embrace wholeheartedly their second amendment rights. Just one man's opinion of course.

Hi from the uk you got some reaally great content going on, nice channel!

I live in London the Zara case made my heart break. The justice system completely failed.

Hi Ana - I love when Tracy is on the Podcast because she reminds us the Law is so outdated. To answer Tracy’s question, yes the cat calling IS getting better because our younger Generations are standing up and shaming these men! 👏👏👏 I have found a voice for it too at 51 years old. I used to ignore it. Ana - you got me fired up on your Instagram about the case of the man chasing women. I understand there is a risk assessment but, shouldn’t we ankle monitor ANYBODY that is a risk? Also, why couldn’t the street cameras be viewed by volunteers?

Hi Ana Garcia and Dr. Tracy Tamborra! To answer Dr. Tamborra's question: I believe that men masturbating or public indecency is still occurring but do to the level of cameras now it has slowed down. I'm currently a 35 year old woman that lives in a smaller town outside of Portland,Or. At 19, a friend of mine and I were walking home from the store at about 2am. We were walking through an empty parking lot , we saw a man about our age at the time sitting on a curb bent over. He appeared at a distance to be in pain or so we thought. As we got closer to him , I asked "Are you ok??" The guy raised up revealing that he was masturbating, he continued for a moment then stood up walking towarda us. My friend and I took off runninf as fast as we could to get away from the situation. Unfortunately , we did not call the police but we did make it back to my house safely.

I and all of my friends experienced this in the 90s in Western Europe.

"....graphic and disturbing stories..." YES that is why we watch it

He should have had an ankle monitor on !!!!

Jessy did purposely kill Lynn, she was researching the dangers of Visine on her phone and texted her boyfriend about how dangerous it is months before the murder. Also Lynn was an only child she didn't have a nephew. Jessy and Anthony were always Lynn's heirs but Jessy wrote a fake will saying Anthony was no longer on her will.

Your guest is yessing before you even finish your question...

Why do I feel tension in this video lol

38:18 I’m a nurse with a background in geriatrics and the answer is no. We do not have enough provisions in place.

BARTENDERS have been doing this to people for YEARS!!! NOTHING NEW!! don't be a jerk to bartenders.

I'm 43 and I've never encountered a flasher ever. Cat-calling definitely though.

No one should EVER be able to acquire 69 offenses! How was he ever even been released?

Back then is was called "streaking" and we endured it bc it was a huge popular song " The Streak." Streaking happened on football fields, major events. I saw 2 when I was under 15. Was one the classic streaker running down a main road. Other was a perv who asked a kid for directions, I leaned in to tell him. He flashed me with a coat and drove away hurting my head as he drove as I was leaning with my arms on his driver side window.. I didn't call bc I thought the would see it as a streaker. I didn't know the difference from the song too. Weird Al did a parody on it called "The Leak." Both were disgusting songs.

The day Ana retires is the day my interest in true crime podcasts retires

When I was 14, I was in SkyCity, similar to a Kmart, I was sitting in the snack bar area bc my mom worked there, a dude flashed himself at me I just remember being so embarrassed. This was probably '89/'90

I would love to know how to submit a story for you to investigate. I can’t find anything anywhere on how to submit or contact you.

The call sign for the NYPD is EDP.

Jessy can't stand the fact that she is being held accountable, she hates it so bad..she ruined her chance of appeal..because she wrote a letter to a friend telling her to "create evidence" and bury it in a park...this is anothet blow to Jessys integrity...first of all, she swears theres "evidence" in Whitnall Park...if its there, why woukd the letter need to be written...and what ADULT HUMAN BEING, WOULD BURY A "TREASURE" IN A PARK? SHE'S NOT 12!!!! HOW FAR FETCHED IS THAT? HOW CHILDISH IS THAT? WHY BURY EVIDENCE IN A PARK??? THAT'S THE MOST ABSURD THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!

Ana you should absolutely not feel bad about how you reacted as a teen when you were being harassed. The person that should be ashamed of how they acted should be the police officer. The grown ass TRAINED adult whose literal job was to help you should be so ashamed at blowing you off. I do think it’s getting better though. People seem less tolerant of that kind of behavior and more likely to take it seriously.

Not the Teams ping at 1:30 I'm traumatized 😭

It’s never happened to me where someone was nude, but cat called from the age of 12, which is disgusting to think of.

WOW 😲😲😲😲

I can honestly say in the 80’s and 90’s I was constantly flashed in front of my Catholic HS. It’s disgusting and I hope this has stopped. Btw, I’m in Canada.

Sometimes the criminals have more rights than the victims.

The fella in the UK that murdered after being released will be given a proper life term now, meaning he'll never be released again, but that don't do no good for the poor lass that was murdered And it's not quite the same here as some will probably know, over here you kill someone and most you get is 25 years but if you go out and kill someone again it's then a life term, or at least that's how it seems to work out, it's only the absolutely worst of the worst that get an actual life term over here

36:45 this wasnt in Michigan. It was Wisconsin.

First time I learned that eye drops could make you sick was from the movie "Wedding Crashers." It made Bradley Cooper puke for hours but I'm sure in larger doses would really make you ill or die.

Even though they do have CCTV and a lot of it in London it's mainly the city that they have people actually monitoring them 24/7, there not all monitored 24/7 in the separate borough's

It always happened in NYC. I was born in the 70’s and this was normal. The subway was/is where it all happens, the majority of the time. I laugh and look away.

Lyn had tan out of money but the condo she lived in and life insurance money was left still. That is what Jessie wanted. I don’t believe the young man was Lyn’s real nephew but was like her real family. Lyn didn’t have children. Of course Lyn was sad n depressed. Jessie slowly killed her.

I,just subscribed to your channel ❤

The UK has a legal system, not a justice system. It is the same here in my own country. Please stop referring to the court system of the UK and other Commonwealth countries as being a justice system. It never has been and never will be. It is punitive and has no real interest in justice for the victim.

Regardless medium or high risk why can’t they both have to wear ankle monitors? I don’t care how old the system is therefore if he tries to cut it off, but then you follow into who is monitoring the ankle monitors if they don’t read it till the next day do you follow me?

I get the lady needed a punishment. How can they expect her or us to pay these crazy restitution costs for real. I thought there was a limit on fines and restitution depending on how much assets and money you have total.

The 😢😢

Societal sickness and babying the weak while burying the good.

JESSY LIVED HER ENTIRE LIFE THINKING SHE DESERVED MORE...WITHOUT WORKING FOR IT! SHE DISGUSTS ME, AND HER MOTHER SAYING WHAT SHE SAID IN HER IMPACT STATEMENT MADE ME SICK! SHE TOTALLY DOWNED LYNN, AND THE COURT, YET. SAID NOTHING TO HELP JESSY....VERY TELLING! IF "MOM" CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NICE ABOUT YOU....THEN WHO CAN?

Who would know what & where that chemical came from. How did Jessie know it was from eye drops?

Sadly, Bobby Knight recently passed on so he and Morgan can't get together and compare chair throwing techniques.

cover the apple river trial stabbing, it was so crazy seeing everyones opinions of the evidence, testimony, video...

I've dealt with street harassment threats kidnapping and raped several times and it's definitely getting worse because all the rappers and musicians we have today condone it and glorify this behavior. It's unfortunate.

If it is reducing (sexual harassment), it’s not by much! I like to walk, so I get exposed to a lot more of it, than will someone who is only driving. I’ve trained myself to tune out horn-honking, and I usually wear a huge pair of DJ headphones, but always w/ one pushed halfway off my ear, so I’m like, I intend to ignore you, but also, you’re not getting the jump on me. I’ve definitely had to duck into a shop before. I’ve even, in the middle of an afternoon, had a truck w/ a few men in it, try and block me in, as I was walking on the sidewalk. (I turned around and jogged back the way I’d come - and I am not a jogger. More recently, i had moved to a pretty active neighborhood, (in terms of bad drugs and other crime) and I was walking my 80 or 90lb dog on a different street than I had walked before, again, middle of the afternoon, and I saw a guy ride by on a bike (not a motorcycle), but he went really slowly and was eyeballing me pretty extravagantly. Then, a minute later, another guy on a bike; same thing. Then, I see a car creeping up behind me, going way too slowly, so I told my dog, “let’s go!” And we ran home at top speed. And that wasn’t even the first time something like that had happened w/ that same dog of mine, so he knew the drill and did his part - probably enjoyed the run, but I also think he knew it was serious. And the time before that, had been in a super bougie neighborhood, too, so you can’t even really blame it on the neighborhood. Although I did find out later, that that street i had been walking on in the more sketchy neighborhood was the epicenter of a hugely known human trafficking ring. (West Cocoa, FL). So yeah, we are definitely not getting safer, IMO. My long-term goals include training in hand-to-hand combat, so I feel confident buying a gun (that way, nobody will be able to take it off of me), and then training in markswomanship. My daughter is 13, and she is constantly griping about me not letting her go places alone, but she can gripe as much as she wants; not anytime soon.

That’s the problem!!!!! We are not supposed to rely on others or cameras for protection!!! That’s what we are supposed to do for ourselves! We are born with instincts and to use our education and knowledge to not put ourselves in harms way!!! The cameras are there to give assistance if something does happen! This man should have never been let out to begin with, it’s the job of the police to assist in protecting us!!!!! Hi, the justice system done its job. That young lady would still be alive. I firmly believe in an eye for Anaya to her tooth I think if criminals knew what they do to others will be done to them might deter a lot of these issues from having to begin with, and the cameras are there to catch and to make sure that it is done to them. You would see a lot less crime and a lot less overpopulated prisons! Majority of humanity will not commit crimes if they know it will happen to them in return the ones that don’t care are the ones that don’t belong in this planet to begin with !

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Murder guy looks like Matthew Broderick to me. Explains why he didn’t go to his p.o. meeting.

Does this woman think that all street cameras are being viewed at all hours???? Ouch. …she’s pretty!😅