F1 driver abuses the overtake button sometimes

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yelistener

yelistener

7 місяців тому

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@yelistener
@yelistener 7 місяців тому
Red Bull's Godly DRS vs Ferrari's miserable straight line speed: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/r3SFm26mq6mcmqc.html
@rayzor06
@rayzor06 7 місяців тому
I thought you got bored from UKposts. It was 2 months ago since your latest video.
@francescob.38
@francescob.38 7 місяців тому
This is way more accurate than I needed. I thought this was just a meme
@MOW262
@MOW262 19 днів тому
Same. Awesome video tho 🤷‍♂️❤️
@yelistener
@yelistener 7 місяців тому
Unfortunately a lot of my vids got deleted, due to obvious reasons. I'll reupload some of them in the future, and also new vids are coming. So stay tuned.
@darknebulae7470
@darknebulae7470 7 місяців тому
Thanks. I enjoy your breakdowns and insights.
@shaikhanis3193
@shaikhanis3193 7 місяців тому
No worries!
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 7 місяців тому
probably because of the jazz music.
@robertomudadu7607
@robertomudadu7607 7 місяців тому
Thanks! Full support to you
@yhelloh
@yhelloh 7 місяців тому
I mean you give proper analysis F1 and the organization just want every possible dollar god forbit someone like you making content out of it. Thank you for the awesome content.
@CreakingJordans
@CreakingJordans 7 місяців тому
Meanwhile the overtake button in Latifi, Maldonado and Nissany(and some might argue Sargent deserves a spot in this club) are still new and untouched.
@thedogethatgames
@thedogethatgames 7 місяців тому
It's hard to use it when your out of the race by lap 2
@zeenu7651
@zeenu7651 7 місяців тому
Maldonado didn't need a overtake button to win a race with a williams 🐐
@MangoIsLove55
@MangoIsLove55 7 місяців тому
​@@zeenu7651that's why he's called lord Maldonado
@CreakingJordans
@CreakingJordans 7 місяців тому
@@MangoIsLove55 I'd argue avocados are love too
@MangoIsLove55
@MangoIsLove55 7 місяців тому
@@CreakingJordans ??
@cahill22
@cahill22 7 місяців тому
Love these driving analysis videos that we get from you. Really awesome informative stuff.
@Bullii
@Bullii 7 місяців тому
This is actually a reupload
@cahill22
@cahill22 6 місяців тому
@@Bullii From where?
@yelistener
@yelistener 6 місяців тому
@@cahill22 I posted this vid last year and it got deleted, so I reuploaded it.
@Sevastous
@Sevastous 7 місяців тому
Mercedes reliability advantage in late turbo hybrid era meant their overtake mode's were much more free to extract power from them. to the point Fia targeted them directly. Now engine must be tuned to race spec. only battery boost is allowed
@edk1124
@edk1124 6 місяців тому
We are still on turbo hybrid era
@randomesteven3935
@randomesteven3935 2 місяці тому
Overtake mode is battery boost. The reason overtake mode isn't used as often is because it drains the battery much more quickly. In qualifying, the deployment the electrical boost (both MGU-H and K) is pre-mapped to deliver boost in certain section of the track. This is done to ensure battery last the entire lap. Overtake mode drains it in like, half a lap or less at full power, which is useless in qualifying. What you're thinking of is fuel trim. And that's called engine modes. Engine modes/fuel trim and still be changed during a race in case oddities in the engine sensors are detected but it should not increase power, merely change driveability.
@outlawfps3948
@outlawfps3948 Місяць тому
@@edk1124 Not technically. They labeled the "Turbo hybrid era" 2014-2021... although using the same engines, we are currently in the "Ground effects" era
@Mast3rShan31
@Mast3rShan31 7 місяців тому
Now that last little note is new to me! Now it makes SO MUCH more sense why they're so much slower during racing instead of quali when it comes to times. I know the traffic during race also adjusts the times, but when they're all spread out, it all makes sense now!!!
@sanjeevnookala3694
@sanjeevnookala3694 7 місяців тому
The weight from the fuel makes a significant difference as well, 120kgs of fuel is an enormous difference from the quali fuel load
@Mast3rShan31
@Mast3rShan31 7 місяців тому
@@sanjeevnookala3694 Didn't think about THAT either!!
@KonstantinosDoulias
@KonstantinosDoulias 7 місяців тому
Also you have to keep in mind that they have to manage the tyres more in the race 😅
@Mast3rShan31
@Mast3rShan31 7 місяців тому
@@KonstantinosDoulias Haha! The things I don't think about. Of course as they're just gunning in Quali!
@armanromana1580
@armanromana1580 7 місяців тому
the run the same ice engine maps in the race as qually so the difference in power is not as dramatic anymore. so as others have mentioned the slower speed is due to fuel weight and drivers managing their tires.
@Engryter
@Engryter 7 місяців тому
Welcome back. I indeed had a sense of deja vu with this video, but the quality of your content Is so high that a second view Is not a waste of time.
@Scotracer1987
@Scotracer1987 7 місяців тому
As an automotive engineer, and sim racer, I liked this video a lot. Excellent.
@ewearpel9990
@ewearpel9990 7 місяців тому
do you know of any good ressources for the lay person to learn about automotive engineering?
@Scotracer1987
@Scotracer1987 7 місяців тому
@@ewearpel9990 for UKposts videos I'd start with driving 4 answers. He's good. For books, I'd have to think longer. youtube.com/@d4a?si=xuaX9WSVX5BlCedS
@wgolyoko
@wgolyoko 7 місяців тому
Hey man, add a small timer or loading icon or progress bar, whatever is easier, when you're showing text for long periods.
@seaalon138
@seaalon138 6 місяців тому
Why?
@SevenPilot
@SevenPilot 6 місяців тому
I second this
@alejandroperez5368
@alejandroperez5368 2 місяці тому
Because we get nervous the text will disappear and we don't want to pause the video.
@robertnavarijo9441
@robertnavarijo9441 17 днів тому
Hey man, just use the built in player controls
@graysaltine6035
@graysaltine6035 12 днів тому
@@seaalon138 Because having just a few words on screen for much longer than necessary is frustrating when you don't know how far to skip ahead. Cool vid tho.
@MathewBT81
@MathewBT81 7 місяців тому
Great overview and breakdown 👌
@Dxbestani
@Dxbestani 7 місяців тому
yelistener is back, i think i'm crying
@alvpeerz
@alvpeerz 7 місяців тому
Nice to have you back!
@steveyjay8657
@steveyjay8657 7 місяців тому
Once again, informative upload, thank you
@zedramer
@zedramer 7 місяців тому
I'm curious how much the cars will let their drivers use the OT before de-rating the battery. Like if Bottas in this situation used the OT button a couple more times that lap, and ended up de-rating through the last sector (blanchimont into bus stop).
@fernandocaceres3322
@fernandocaceres3322 7 місяців тому
Great video as always.
@swastikgrover3414
@swastikgrover3414 7 місяців тому
That looks like so much fun, those are some incredible toys
@dloadrussell
@dloadrussell 7 місяців тому
Missed you mate
@agostinodauria5455
@agostinodauria5455 7 місяців тому
welcome back! we missed your videos!
@eddymwanza1378
@eddymwanza1378 6 місяців тому
New sub...Learning alot from your videos..keep them coming.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive 7 місяців тому
@0:13 excellent vibes over this track!
@cedricpipon3255
@cedricpipon3255 20 днів тому
THE Huh Duh Six Hungeos TRACK MATE
@strange_jason
@strange_jason 7 місяців тому
Overtake deploys the max amount of electric power, it doesn't alter the engine power, that is done by engine mapping and engine mapping is determined on a race to race basis or if there is a substantial amount of wear or heat in the engine.
@yelistener
@yelistener 7 місяців тому
This is the case since 2021 ICE mode ban. Before that, ot button could also change the engine mapping like fuel mixture.
@alsa4real
@alsa4real 7 місяців тому
Doesn't overtake mode allow the exhaust gases to bypass thebturbo through the wastegate, so that there's lesser back pressure meaning maximum ICE power? It also means the MGU-H will have to spin the turbo.
@Morgan-iv4ye
@Morgan-iv4ye 7 місяців тому
@@yelistenerDo you think this could also have something to do with redbulls advantage since 2021?
@Belril
@Belril 7 місяців тому
@@Morgan-iv4yeYes, in two ways. IMO Verstappen wouldn’t have been champion in ‘21 without this rule change, which was aimed at curbing Mercedes’ dominance. And yes, it also means that teams don’t have as much ability to make up for poor aero concepts by just running their ICEs at max power for parts of the race and then dialing them back for others.
@HP-yk7rl
@HP-yk7rl 7 місяців тому
such a nice video, well explained and interesting
@borjamm4209
@borjamm4209 7 місяців тому
Sublime, Yelistener. Just sublime
@jacobmin4056
@jacobmin4056 7 місяців тому
Long time no see man.. i waiting for your video mate.
@pingu9656
@pingu9656 7 місяців тому
Damn the booster button in video game is real
@chanhkhiemtran9010
@chanhkhiemtran9010 6 місяців тому
Nos in real life here
@cf12001
@cf12001 29 днів тому
really clear analysis and explanation, thanks!
@FeintMotion
@FeintMotion 7 місяців тому
using overtake mode right now btw
@lonewolf4
@lonewolf4 7 місяців тому
Great video
@SheetFiber
@SheetFiber 7 місяців тому
When driver says "need more power" it could have literal meaning lol
@SicKZiKo
@SicKZiKo 7 місяців тому
Wow insane content👍🏻♥️
@wojtekpawowski8913
@wojtekpawowski8913 7 місяців тому
As always, a great analysis! But I hate the way the whole power unit works - F1 should be about using (almost) full power all the time, but those days are sadly gone 😢
@SheetFiber
@SheetFiber 7 місяців тому
3 engine per season made it impossible.
@SheetFiber
@SheetFiber 7 місяців тому
But for season 2021 Mercedes had taken several times of 10 grid penalty for changing the internal combustion engine. I believe it was to allow Hamilton for running at near full power from after the summer break (was it Spa?) until Abu Dhabi.
@Infigo96
@Infigo96 7 місяців тому
Since 2022 season the party modes and overtake modes, ala merc 2021 interlagos monster is gone. They have to stick with a power mode on the icu. If it is for a whole weekend or they have some leaniency and need to keep that mode for a certain majority. The electric motors they have full control over which mode and power in the race but it is not as powerful as icu+ electrics in a overtake party mode. And less engines total also limits the use of party mode
@wojtekpawowski8913
@wojtekpawowski8913 7 місяців тому
@@Infigo96 yes, that's right with the ICE settings; the problem is the battery in general - it will never have enough capacity to give full power all the race and the energy will always have to be managed :( and there is also the matter of tyres. My point is that lapping ~5 seconds or more slower in the race than in quali is just ridiculous 🤷🏿
@reynaldiwidjaja277
@reynaldiwidjaja277 7 місяців тому
​@@SheetFiberBrazil
@cobra5032
@cobra5032 7 місяців тому
Imagine if F1 cars just ran at full power with engine that sounded amazing, had and were allowed to use the fuel to do so, allowed refueling, weighed 300 kilos less, and didn’t have garbage tires. Oh wait, that sounds like the 2000s. It was an amazing time.
@pranavjayaprakasanut
@pranavjayaprakasanut 7 місяців тому
😂
@Ovenman940
@Ovenman940 7 місяців тому
Then you get lower peak power or a grid full of DNFs.
@cobra5032
@cobra5032 6 місяців тому
Could that also be considered less predictability?@@Ovenman940
@mgamaji
@mgamaji 7 місяців тому
Well Brendon Hartley is a name I haven't heard in a long time
@Ksoism
@Ksoism 11 днів тому
Valtteris overtake on eau rouge was already cool, but that he also has to think of this is next level. That's not an easy place to pass, let alone when you need to think about your exit speed and speed into kemmel.
@kirolosazer6482
@kirolosazer6482 7 місяців тому
BROS BACK!!!!
@LurizanFian
@LurizanFian 18 днів тому
Wow Thanks for the explaination
@JoeyLu
@JoeyLu Місяць тому
Such a great video. I think I learned a lot. Now what I am only lacking of is an F1 car.
@abdulhameedal-sikafi8944
@abdulhameedal-sikafi8944 6 місяців тому
I love F1 but I literally need alot to learn about it, I thank your channel so much sir 🎉❤
@Nitephall
@Nitephall 14 днів тому
Very interesting! Nice music on his radio too.
@enzodawolf3259
@enzodawolf3259 6 місяців тому
He's talking about KERS
@barneymiller7894
@barneymiller7894 15 днів тому
Alot of heads-up drag cars have a similar button, but they usually call it a “scramble” button and use it to add more boost or nitrous oxide. It’s sort of like an overtake mode, or a hold the gap mode 😂
@gakiddo9586
@gakiddo9586 6 місяців тому
A piece of tape: INFINITE POOOOOOWEEER
@jayhawk184
@jayhawk184 20 днів тому
do you have a video explaining what DRS does? i like the way youre videos are made.
@grumpyg9350
@grumpyg9350 10 днів тому
I loved the music. Much better than listening to that awful engine noise. Thank you.
@Galois-88
@Galois-88 7 місяців тому
very good and educational content
@KartKing4ever
@KartKing4ever 7 місяців тому
Nice to see F1 finally caught up to F-Zero.
@JebAlert
@JebAlert 10 днів тому
YOU'VE GOT BOOST POWER
@redline589
@redline589 7 місяців тому
Thanks for the upload I love your videos, please can you shorten the amount of time you leave the text onscreen, Thanks.
@aidinb6721
@aidinb6721 2 місяці тому
Thought I was watching Dankpods with this music for a second
@CyberCreeper22
@CyberCreeper22 7 місяців тому
nice hearing the f1 car compared to the hurrdurr six hungeos by ol mate senny
@oriolysmedia
@oriolysmedia 2 місяці тому
Thanks for this video, I thought the Overtake button was the same as activating the DRS.
@g8la263
@g8la263 7 місяців тому
What about press and hold, does it give out more power or it's just a separate way of activating by various teams?
@hankfields6326
@hankfields6326 7 місяців тому
some teams use press and hold some just use a simple button
@strange_jason
@strange_jason 7 місяців тому
Pretty sure most PTP (push to pass) buttons in various race cars are hold buttons instead of toggle buttons. This ensures that the driver doesn't "misclick" and accidentally keep the ERS on full deploy. Race cars that have a PTP system usually have it on an ERS (hybrid) system - it controls the electrical output of the ERS system, it doesn't boost the ICE power as the poster claims.
@Belril
@Belril 7 місяців тому
Each team has its own OT button setup, so it differs by car. At least for McLaren, a single press will override the energy harvesting settings of the hybrid system, while a longer press will deploy energy and increase speed.
@buththahnin4444
@buththahnin4444 19 днів тому
Bro watch every detail 😂
@predator931
@predator931 29 днів тому
Imagine having one of the most dominant F1 cars ever made and barely being able to overtake Hartley
@TaikaJamppa
@TaikaJamppa 26 днів тому
Fun fact: in the OFFICIAL F1 VIDEOGAME those two lights mean DRS is available and open, respectively! 😳 I admit I have been playing 2023 version a lot but still…
@kenechukwuimmanuelIchbin
@kenechukwuimmanuelIchbin 7 місяців тому
Re-upload?
@Ins0mnia365
@Ins0mnia365 Місяць тому
party mode era
@kartikkaushik9811
@kartikkaushik9811 7 місяців тому
I thought overtake button was mostly effective because of the hybrid system not the engine though?
@mickeynismocat
@mickeynismocat 6 місяців тому
Probably just a boost adjustment
@prasnikar9465
@prasnikar9465 7 місяців тому
Imagine if they have 1 more button for nitrous
@williamjonathan9723
@williamjonathan9723 5 місяців тому
i think “ERS” is basically nitrous?
@Nick-qx1vf
@Nick-qx1vf 7 місяців тому
Kind of insane that i just noticed Yelistener's prof pic is Anton Chigurh O_o
@FASTFPSGAMER
@FASTFPSGAMER 15 днів тому
shit i never thought F1 was this technical. I thought it was just foot on the gas, shift gears and disappears!
@Calicarver
@Calicarver 7 місяців тому
Awesome to see, and clearly explained. Background music REALLY sucks though.
@moodmusicytc
@moodmusicytc 7 місяців тому
Does Lifting automatically disengage Overtake for all cars similar to braking disengages DRS?
@Jared_Barnes
@Jared_Barnes 7 місяців тому
Nope Overtake stays on unless the driver switches it off
@godzvnm7315
@godzvnm7315 7 місяців тому
​@@Jared_Barnesovertake does not always stay on. bottas didnt manually turn overtake off during his battle with hartley. when he had to brake going up eau rouge the overtake was automatically turned off.
@advanceddarkness3
@advanceddarkness3 7 місяців тому
I would assume if you're not 100% on throttle it deactivates itself?
@strange_jason
@strange_jason 7 місяців тому
If I'm not wrong, pretty much all F1 teams use a hold button for overtake rather than a toggle.
@headp3
@headp3 14 днів тому
So there is an obvious and easy fix, these cars are basically mobile computers, should be easy to program a certain amount of times both DRS and speed boost can be used in 1 race and also have the GPS in the cars regulate when and where these features can even be used. Or even easier and more fun to watch is get rid of all that crap and let the cars and drivers fully race again.
@pawes4976
@pawes4976 Місяць тому
On kemmel Bottas also use DRS. Overtake button can't give so much boost.
@MisterZalgo
@MisterZalgo 7 місяців тому
So it’s a boost button like a lot of more Arcady racing games has lol
@maybeyes2753
@maybeyes2753 7 місяців тому
More of unlocking the limiter than a boost but it does sounds rather cool
@dragonballhomie4353
@dragonballhomie4353 7 місяців тому
Don't you think it's for full battery power and draining as well?
@MinecraftEasyYT
@MinecraftEasyYT 19 днів тому
Its just like overclocking your CPU!😂
@jasonmoyer
@jasonmoyer 7 місяців тому
Wearing a watch in the cockpit seems unsafe. :D
@BostilCensurado
@BostilCensurado 28 днів тому
i know i would have that button pressed every time i was on the straight
@CarTuner3000
@CarTuner3000 Місяць тому
Bro if I’m in formula 1 I will abuse the overtake button 😂 as long as it helps me win
@dezpotizmOFheaven
@dezpotizmOFheaven 16 днів тому
If Bottas was smart, it would have been him who had slipstream on that straight. He could just kept behind and then get past again instead of "abusing" his engine for literally no need.
@UberBug1
@UberBug1 7 місяців тому
Huh this vidéo exist before isn't it ?
@robfer5370
@robfer5370 2 місяці тому
FYI every team up and down the grid used overtake buttons, only merc did it better, so the FIA banned it...
@mohdsyafiqbinnazmi9323
@mohdsyafiqbinnazmi9323 7 місяців тому
the button must've stuck in ON position for LH44 car back in Interlagos 2021
@JohnWiku
@JohnWiku 6 місяців тому
Not quite, this button was working in a different manner in 2021. In 2021 what you saw was merc desperately finding the best engine they might have produced (remember that these are hand built, power differs from engine to engine). They have found the highest horsepower engine they could produce, ran it to it's limits because it only needed to run 3 races, then BAM, cheat mode activated for the Brasil race 😂😂
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- 7 днів тому
So F1 cars are V6 engines and they have a "go faster" button. 2 things i didnt know and never would have guessed. Interesting.
@riep69
@riep69 14 днів тому
Watching this with the huh-duh six hungeos on
@danydeezy3243
@danydeezy3243 Місяць тому
I'm not sure Latifi ever used this button. He probably has a button labeled CRASH😂😂😂
@gamechip06
@gamechip06 7 місяців тому
Good choice of music; ever heard of dankpods?
@chiraqblicky5899
@chiraqblicky5899 13 днів тому
I’m out here learnin
@xuaalbito8303
@xuaalbito8303 21 день тому
Never knew they had overtake buttons😂
@snowhare1
@snowhare1 6 місяців тому
337 kph is 209 mph in freedom units 😮
@ZeR-rm1pf
@ZeR-rm1pf 14 днів тому
Hey...sometimes ok
@iornlazer04
@iornlazer04 29 днів тому
Real life glitch Fr
@terushinomiya
@terushinomiya 7 місяців тому
MEGA vid
@chasesherwood6472
@chasesherwood6472 14 днів тому
seems like the button just moves the rev limiter up 700rpm or so
@Impalaplayer
@Impalaplayer 11 днів тому
Weird normally i use my gas pedal to determine how fast I would like to go and how much power I want it to use. Sounds overly complicated
@Artificialnsights
@Artificialnsights Місяць тому
New to F1 - If the engine runs at full power for qualifying, does this mean typically the fastest lap times are in qualifying? As they conserve the battery throughout the entirety of the actual race?
@russko118
@russko118 28 днів тому
they are faster in quali, before 2021 it was even more difference nowadays is mosty weight of the fuel (you have to do the full race on a full tank, quali is with minimal fuel) and tire management (in quali you don't do it so you go even faster). battery recharges under breacking (not only but mostly) so the battery recharges and can be deployed for extra power
@Artificialnsights
@Artificialnsights 26 днів тому
@@russko118 Thank you for the detailed response, really interesting information. I hope you're having a great day :)
@rotten-waffles
@rotten-waffles 7 місяців тому
The real ones know this music from DankPods
@jesterking1
@jesterking1 14 днів тому
I never knew about an "overtake" mode. As a driver I'd be holding onto that button all the time. I dont want a neutered engine. Give me full power the entire time! Such a dumb idea.
@rayhayden2289
@rayhayden2289 9 днів тому
Of course f1 has a turbo boost button
@fockewulf9518
@fockewulf9518 7 місяців тому
Yelitsener bra where were ye bra?
@troll_486
@troll_486 7 місяців тому
so its not more than I thought lol
@petros5155
@petros5155 Місяць тому
Isnt KERS a thing since 2009?
@hunteraff5872
@hunteraff5872 6 місяців тому
Why can’t you just run a full powered engine Edit: battery, got it
@sanchitjoshi6661
@sanchitjoshi6661 Місяць тому
Surprisngly, she spoke german to the interviewer and not to Toto
@felixchuah2854
@felixchuah2854 3 місяці тому
I still miss him being Mercedes if they stop treated him to be another Mercedes World Champ
@GabrielFujiwara43
@GabrielFujiwara43 7 місяців тому
Why bottas' radio dude sounds like Jeff
@Skelebone69
@Skelebone69 14 днів тому
throttle control? nah button limiter fam
@Ihateejayyy
@Ihateejayyy 7 місяців тому
Isn't this a reupload? Cause I swear I thought you posted this a few months ago??
@yelistener
@yelistener 7 місяців тому
Check pinned comment.
@Ihateejayyy
@Ihateejayyy 7 місяців тому
@@yelistener oh ok that makes sense 👍🏾
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