This is the type of unbiased, detailed analysis that everyone needs to see

We're witnessing probably the best season since the start of turbo hybrid era.

FIA: let's make racing safer. Also FIA: let's put sausace kerbs to launch cars.

The best analysis of this incident around anywhere. Really took the time to look at hiw other drivers handled the corner and compare. That’s why this F1 channel has top content.

This was expertly done, comparing against two other incidents which were very similar but also had different outcomes. I’m a fan of these every week but this was one of the best ones yet

Downside: A weekend without a race Upside: We get two weeks to argue about the crash

The one problem with lewis giving or not giving space is that even if he shut off the space completely, max would still have tried to stick the car in. The old (cliché) saying goes: "if you do not go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver" But conversly: "if you go for a gap that doesnt exist, youre Pastor Maldonado"

Leclerc didn’t leave the space for Giovanazi, you can clearly see they make contact and Antonio pushes Charles wide

I clicked on this video and paused it immediately to say this: I waited two whole days just for this... This was the analysis I wanted above all. Now I will watch the video :-)

Always enjoy Jolyons analysis post race. He's a great presenter and does a solid job.

If they didn’t crash at this corner, they would have crashed at the next one…these two will never give each other an inch. That 100th win is proving to be very elusive for Lewis.

It would be very interesting to go back through all the Ver vs Ham overtakes or attempted overtakes and see the count of who yields rather than crashes.

F1 youtube team is definitely milking all the drama before Netflix does..

We need Jolyon Palmer as a F1 steward instead of Liuzzi

Find it hard to believe that someone as precise about the track limits as Max would run over the sausage kerb due to a miscalculation. It always seems to be him, driving like no-one else exists and asking others to make the decision to withdraw from the potential contact. Glad to see someone not willing to give an inch.

Also stewards can’t take into account the championship, doesn’t matter if both are racing harder because of it they have to treat it like if it could have been a haas or a merc fighting for that corner. So when ones at fault they can’t go “well…it’s the championship so it’s expected”

The whole F1 world waited for this!

Jolyon's analysis really just hits

If the roles were swapped, am pretty sure Max will not even give Ham any space

Love the analysis but I do really miss the comparison between Hamilton and Leclerc! It would give a more clear picture for us between the comparison from GIO and VER

I didn't understand why Hamilton left so much space in the beginning of the corner (not the braking zone). He should've shut the door from the beginning like Verstappen did in lap 1. By leaving that kind of space, he made Verstappen think there's a chance and I think that was a key moment.

Lovely analysis

Someone help me understand how he concludes its a racing incident when on one occasion one driver bailed out to avoid an obvious collision and on the other occasion the driver never bailed out to avoid an obvious collision.????

Gio and Leclerc were both in "It's lap 1 - don't wreck your race" mode, whereas Max and Lewis were in "Cannot allow my rival to beat me" mode, hence they crashed.

Nice to hear a fair and unbiased analysis of the incident, instead of all the F1 “experts” on social media laying blame solely one way or the other. Thank you

I think the difference with the Giovinazzi one was he hit Leclerc slightly which allowed him to make the corner

Lap 1, Lewis knew the game was up and backed out, drove away to race another day. 5:01 Is when Max should have backed out. He was behind and driving into a gap that was always going to close....He needs to learn when to get his elbows in. The potential is there for him to be one of the true greats of F1 but the aggression has to be measured, rather than being the hyper aggressive Max we see today.

So looking at the analysis (before looking at prevents events), it sounds like Palmer could see why Max thought there was room to move - that Hamilton had left him room initially - but that Hamilton later closed the door mid corner. Max then had nowhere to go and was force onto the kerb and into the air.

Great comparison between max and gio… Only issue is that everyone seems to forget that the stewards are more inclined to call it a racing incident if its the 1st lap not on lap 26

Giovinnazi hits LeClerc's front tire and pushes(bounces) LeClerc to a wider line, thus giving him the room to finish the corner.

Love this in depth analysis with multiple relevant comparisons. Great stuff.

Great competitive and exciting racing this season. It's awesome to see teams more evenly matched.

that's why the old layout of this chicane was more friendly to overtakes. I don't know why they changed to this super slow chicane, as they did In spa with Bus stop

also a little thing to note with Gio V Lec Giovinazzi did lightly tap Leclerc's front wheel which booped Leclerc slightly to the right, creating more space

Brilliant analysis, the only thing that rubs me up the wrong way is that verstappen thinks he’s entitled to more space when he has proved in the pass he is more than happy to run people wide but doesn’t think it right when it happens to him.

I really do appreciate pundits who try look into depth at both sides and both situations and who put effort in building up an argumentation. And try to understand what really happend. Big thumbs!

gio didn't collide with charles because he hit him with his tyre and moved him out the way...

12:07 Leclerc also turns right to give Giovinazzi room as he anticipates a collision

I feel like everyone missed the part where both rear wheels touch just after the sausage kerb which actually cause Max to launch on top of Lewis

Max never pulls out of a move, even if it means a collision is inevitable, we've seen it many times, that's a strength and a weakness.

12:00 That MV / Giovanazi comparo has their hands perfectly synchronised

Top analysis Jolyon, just two guys going at it nothing more nothing less and there will be a lot more this season.

The video we’ve all been waiting for! Great analysis mate🔥👍🏼

They should make F1 like hokey where they throw their helmets off and settle it like men

Can't wait to read the civil and rational discussion in these comments

So Palmer didnt see how Gio's wheel smashed into Leclerc's to "create" that space?

Brilliant analysis. Spot on.. thank you for looking at both sides of it and not taking sides

Max's statement says everything about this incident. He had no intention of taking the escape route it was a pass or crash move from the moment it started.

Both Ham and Ver are hard racers (pretty much I will leave it up to you rather to have a crash or not), so it is no surprise that they’d come together. Great spectacle for us fans though.

FIA should invest in paying for stewards rather than them mostly being volunteers. This way you can have better quality control and consistency throughout the season rather than it being ad hoc and reduce the element of bias that will always exist. The same happens in every sport that has part time referee's. The second you replace them with full time workers, the quality and consistency improved.

Great review of the massively spoken about situation. I believe this is one of the clearest exaltation I've seen. Tnx

Neither was going to give an inch. Which is fine, we want to see them go at it hammer and tongs. The penalty however is a complete joke. Normally we are told that the consequences of a collision is not part of the deliberation, but in this case I think that is exactly what happened.

How about instead of penalizing drivers for racing, we replace sausage kerbs that function as ramps that launch cars into each other?

I think the jump off the curb made it look way more dramatic. Without it, they would be racing after those 2 corners.

11:48 it is not only Verstappen pointing more towards the curb, but also Lewis giving less room, squeezing him more into the curb.

I think the big difference between the Ver and Gio was that Gio's was on Lap 1 Turn 1, at slower speed when the pack was all bunched up and everyone is being more careful. I doubt Lec would have left as much room on following laps, even with a car being as far along the outside as Gio was. Everyone knows, though, that the main aim is to get through T1 unscathed, especially in the midfield. That said, I still believe that this would have been viewed as a racing incident in previous years, as would several other incidents which have been penalised this year, and the stewards are just being much harsher this year than previously.

What Hamilton should have done to keep the position is push Max wide at the apex of turn 1, instead, he left enough space and Max saw that as an invitation, by that point Max is determined and expecting Ham to do the same into turn 2.

MAx "That's what happens when you don't leave space" - Translation "That's what happens when you don't leave space for me on my race track". Where was that comment on Lap one at he second Chicane? Max could have backed out or run over the curbs.

Q0: 2:20 I have heard the expression "Missing the apex" so many times in the analyses of such incidents, but nobody ever says what is meant by this. In a curve of continuously varying radius there is a clear geometric apex - the point at which the radius is minimal, but I doubt that differential calculus enters discussion by the stewards. Without such an absolute definition is there an arbitrary definition in the rule book? Or is it just a term that drivers use to mean "The optimum point nearest to the corner"? If it is the latter then as conditions/line/speed vary, the optimum apex will vary, or as at Zandvoort where there are different lines through corners there will be many different apices in the same conditions. Conclusion: *unless* the apex is defined in regs there is no singular apex, so we can ignore "he missed the apex" in any arguments (note the _unless_). Q1: 6:50 Had LH not eased out of the right turn at this point what would his likely path have been? Could he have made the corner (T2)? Could he have made T2 had he given MV sufficient room to pass him? Q2: 7:00, 11:31 At the speed and position of MV could he have made T2 without running LH off the track? I assume that all the performance figures are available to the stewards and having such figures for several laps up to this point there should be sufficient information to determine grip and other factors at various locations across the track for the cars involved, so it should be possible to calculate with high precision and accuracy the answer to the key questions above. Why is there an adjudication as to fault or otherwise in such situations? We can all appreciate and understand a racing incident, but judgement comes into it when there has been poor judgement by a driver that affects other drivers. Without performance figures, my own judgement is that Q1's answer is "Unlikely", and Q" is "No". Therefore it is poor judgement by MV.

Great analysis! Especially with the older overtakes on Monza. I don’t understand the Perez penalty though, when compared to the stewards’ judgment of the Lewis/Max incident. Max wasn’t alongside, so he should have backed out. That’s fair enough. But Perez WAS alongside Leclerc, ahead even. He backed off to avoid a crash with Leclerc. Otherwise they could have ended up like Lewis and Max. Why didn’t Leclerc get the penalty for squeezing Perez off?

We just can’t get enough of the Analysis’s

Ultimately its a racing incident, but from Verstappens point of view, you really have to be at least wheel to wheel or beyond to make a move work from the outside. Trying to make a move from the outside without a positive overlap is just foolish.

I was waiting for this with one finger in my eye .. thanks for the upload!

The big difference is at 9:50 - Giovi's front wheel bumps Leclerc's front wheel and that creates the gap to make it round turn 2 without hitting the sausage. Max basically bet on being able to do the same - muscle his way past by bumping Lewis - but it didn't work out because he couldn't get fully alongside. There may even have been an earlier wheel to wheel bump at 9:34 that just helps create the space and the line for Giovi to get round turn 2. Great racing by all - sometimes it works, sometimes not.

Epic drama ...just absolutely epic.. it's like prost vs senna but in 720p

There's a whole bunch of ways where this contact would have been just a brush of the wheels, just unfortunate that it happened in that specific manner

If you look at how Norris takes the right turn, just in front of both, you'll notice how he goes over the kerbs, like you should. Lewis takes a much wider turn, giving Max less space on the inside. Oh well...

Excellent forensic analysis as always. Great job Sir. Thank you very much.

If max had nowhere to go I would call it a racing incident but he did stuff his nose into a closing door when the option to abort was there. Yes, Max had the right to attempt an outside pass which Lewis left room for but that doesn't give Max the right to the next corner also when he's still behind. In just about every other case where a driver stuffs it up the inside when theres no room its the guy behinds fault for causing a collision and i dont see this incident any different.

i think they assigned fault to verstappen because of his statement after the crash, it made him sound like he really intended to crash if hamilton didn't yield, despite knowing that the likelihood of such incident is high. I do think that contact between cars are totally normal, but deliberately doing that is like schumacher crashing into villnueve.

Wow! As usual Jolyon is spot on with a excellent analysis! Thanks.

Ocon/Vettel vs Lec/Ham from two years ago?! Looked pretty much the same to me, but Lec got a warning, while Ocon got a 5 second penalty. Is that on F1TV? Would like to see an analysis of that too.

In the scraps that have taken place between Hamilton and Verstappen all this year, what I've noticed is that Hamilton will prefer to bail out and keep from crashing so he can keep racing and at least have a chance later on, or at least collect some points, whereas Verstappen is entirely uncompromising and would sooner crash than give up a millimeter. Martin Brundle said of Senna in the Top Gear tribute that "[Senna] would put us in a position that you were gonna have an accident, and he would leave it up to you to decide whether to have that accident or not." Sounds a lot like Verstappen to me. And to an extent, Hamilton sounds a bit like Prost. So... the Senna/Prost battle of 2021?

So here's a genuine question, why is Verstappen allowed to just shove people off the track? He complains about Lewis leaving no room, he left no room on lap one. Nor did he at Imola, or Barcelona, or Silverstone. In Austria people were getting penalties all over the place for shoving people off the track, so why is it ok for Verstappen to do it?? Jolyon mentions it's debatable whether this is fair racing, but why is there not even a debate happening, until he gets penalised for shoving someone off the road he will keep doing it because he knows he can get away with it.

Can we just congratulate giovanazzi's driving, what a move (to stay on track) in an alfa romeo

great in depth analysis! thank you. best one so far.

Palmer’s race analysis is seriously numero uno, bar none. Keep it up, brilliant.

Those sausages should be removed, they're just ridiculous, and caused more nearly fatal accidents than avoided.

Great analysis, thanks. Very useful to see beyond the fans' histrionic comments.

One question regarding the sausage kerbs and white line. If only two wheels have to be inside a white line to be considered as on the track, why is the sausage kerb to white line not one car width?

ricciardo managed not to hit verstappen on the first corn when he was right next to him by backing off abit. verstappen should of done the same to hamilton(sprintrace)

This season is the only season since 2014 where F1 is not just Mercedes 1-2 shows. Really loved it 😍😍

Is the camera mounted in the same place and the same direction on Verstappen and Giovinazzi's cars? Cause if so, the lines indicating where they're are heading seem very misleading as they aren't angeled in the same way.

You made me change my mind about the crash. It was more on max

Seems Max was overstepping and tried to force it when he should have known it was not possible. The analysis shows prior patterns so it’s not a surprise outside of the outcome and going airborne.

Stroll vs Perez lap 1 is even more alike this incident (compared to gio) and also manage to get through unscathed together,

Max was behind and chose to make a reckless move which caused the incident... he was penalised for it and that is the end of it....everyone can carry on until the cows come home but the reality is clear!

It’s almost like Max wants to play bumper cars or something. Still drives like he’s driving his CRG. He’ll lose a championship before he learns I reckon

Been waiting for Palmar for what felt like an eternity, awesome analysis

Although I think it was a racing incident, I'm fine with a penalty for Verstappen. What is incredibly confusing though is the severity of the penalty. In Silverstone, Hamilton was deemed to be mostly at fault and got a 10 second penalty that didn't do anything. He still continued his race and won the race. In Hungary, Bottas went bowling and got a 5 place grid penalty for taking out several cars. In Monza, Verstappen takes out Hamilton, but he can't continue either. So he was already punished. But he takes a 3 place grid penalty. How is that justified when you look at both the Hamilton and Bottas penalty? This is why people keep saying maFIA. There's no consistency.

wheel spin - caused by driver inputs. (lap 1) 44 wasn't head to head ... just late braking which cause himself to overrun the turn, not forced off - just carrying too much speed. Was the Red Bull mechanic paid off for the pit stop error :). 33 was never ahead in that turn before the accident. in the end is racing, nothing intentional to take the other out. Stewards may be biased.

I can't understand how this is anything but Max's fault. If Max believes that you need to give space (even though Hamilton was ahead!), then why didn't he give space to Hamilton when Hamilton was level with him on lap 1? The fact that this video also highlights where Verstappen has done the same thing before shows he oversteps the limit when he should be backing off.

He did the same thing on the opening lap and Lewis had to back down, everyone praised him and said it was a great defence... The other way around is a discussion and 50/50. F1 clearly wanting to increase drama on this season and even the commentators are being forced to do the same.

6:38 Jolyon, you call this Lewis blending over to the left. But isn't this called moving under braking forcing Verstappen on the green? It is past the 100 meters sign so it's the braking zone. In 2018 Verstappen got a penalty for forcing Bottas on the same green area after contact.

I think that if there is an incident to compare with is the Perez Stroll incident at the sprint race, because the positions of the cars are more similar than any other incident showed here. Besides, in the first lap all stewards are softer in every race

Thank you for also including the comms. While I know these incidents are analysed on the basis of the incident alone. ‘That’s what happens when you don’t give enough space’ says enough. Either we crash or you give me space; in this instance, space that really wasn’t there and could’ve been contended for later as anything can happen

Literally everyone but Damon Hill and the FIA stewards have called it a racing incident

So penalties for everyone who tried a pass at that chicane? Right, FIA...

This is the best analysis of this incident I have seen. A racing incident.

Even if verstapppen had the SMALLEST of windows to overtake, don't understand how he thinks he was going to make it. Considering their rivalry Lewis wasn't just going to let him breeze by. He should've backed off and lived to fight another day