Film Theory: How to BEAT Homelander (The Boys)

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If you’ve seen The Boys on Amazon Prime you know that Homelander is SUPER powerful. But just how powerful is the flying man with super strength and heat vision? Like, scientifically, how much can Homelander lift, bro? Exactly how fast can he travel? And how extreme is his heat vision? Today, Loyal Theorist, we’re breaking down Homelander’s physical strength but also his BIGGEST weakness. And trust us, you won’t believe what this means for The Boys Season 4.
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@E2theTHAN
@E2theTHAN 3 місяці тому
They already tried this in the show and homelander told them he'd rather be loved then feared but if they ruin his reputation he has no problem being feared because he has nothing left to lose at that point. So I don't think it's his greatest weakness anymore....
@benwagner5089
@benwagner5089 3 місяці тому
At best, it might be a way to try to control him. Make his PR team into a bunch of fatalist "we're all going to die anyway" types who wouldn't be afraid of telling the world about the man behind the image. He still wants to be loved though he'd settle for being feared, and they'll give him the adoration platform he wants if he sticks to the script they lay down for him.
@Raderade1-pt3om
@Raderade1-pt3om 3 місяці тому
Maybe it was show foreshadowing what to come, homelande loses everything and everyone goes after him to take him down before he destroys everything. Sigh
@handleofthehabibi
@handleofthehabibi 3 місяці тому
Reminds me of a bronx tale would u rather be loved or feared
@Trainerlynx
@Trainerlynx 3 місяці тому
I was gonna point that out too lol, if they ruin his reputation, he probably couldn't be stopped because he has nothing left to lose anyway
@braziliancyborg4249
@braziliancyborg4249 3 місяці тому
It could be interpreted as him bluffing for intimidation, he isn't that cool with that thought as he sounded probably
@diddyjohn6872
@diddyjohn6872 3 місяці тому
I loved the theory but as other people have pointed out once Homelander's brand is ruined there's nothing holding him back. As Homelander said "sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose"
@VolkerAlmighty
@VolkerAlmighty 3 місяці тому
my exact thoughts
@GazBC4U
@GazBC4U 3 місяці тому
Milk.
@derpyderp6719
@derpyderp6719 3 місяці тому
Bread.
@Marveryn
@Marveryn 3 місяці тому
right, he will go scorch earth.
@mggardiner4066
@mggardiner4066 3 місяці тому
Yes his brand has also been tied to his weakness (severe psychological problems/narcissisism). His emotional and mental weakness and craving for adoration and love has been consistently the only thing short of tricking him that the protagonists and other villains have been able to exploit prior to S3
@NANOTECHYT
@NANOTECHYT 3 місяці тому
The actual way to beat Homelander is probably a supe like Mindstorm. Homelander might be physically strong, but his mind is clearly a weak point and just putting him in a constant nightmare seems like a sure fire way to defeat him. From there you can send him into the vacuum of space towards the Sun to perish.
@asiamarill
@asiamarill 3 місяці тому
that was i thinking too when i watched that episode. Homelander can hear heartbeat and sense body temperature,that would be difficult. I mean the supe who can explode heads could take him out easily too,but she needs him for her own plans
@GROMOVNIK05
@GROMOVNIK05 3 місяці тому
​@@asiamarillshe cant, she tried it on starlight but she only got a bit of a nosebleed, remember the scene after she exploded bunch of peoples heads? Homelander is strong enough to negate her power completly given that he is much stronger than starlight
@megkrish7568
@megkrish7568 3 місяці тому
Someone with both telekinetic and telepathic abilities would be able to beat him for sure. If they introduce someone like Jean Grey or Scarlet witch that would do the trick
@shivamjha5578
@shivamjha5578 3 місяці тому
Nah , mindstorm could only stun sb for a few seconds and home lander is a far stronger supe so its not possible
@NANOTECHYT
@NANOTECHYT 3 місяці тому
​@@shivamjha5578 It hasn't been shown that Mindstorm couldn't do it in his younger age. As Mindstorm got older, he could not manipulate other supes, only regular humans as his powers became less potent. However, when his powers were at their apex in his prime at a young age, he probably could, especially with how mentally unbalanced Homelander is. The fact that Soldier Boy was afraid of Mindstorm's powers, still tells you that he remembers his younger self being a threat to him personally. We also saw in Gen V that Cate could trap other supes in her mind, so again a supe like Mindstorm or Cate has a very real possibility of at least knocking Homelander out for a while, maybe long enough for another supe to either take away his powers like Soldier Boy can by blasting the Compound V out of him or by pushing him toward the sun out into the vacuum of space as Homelander still has to breathe and likely can't fly in space.
@purplexus
@purplexus 3 місяці тому
I think the scariest part about Homelander is how many people didn’t realize he was satire and are rooting for his redemption arc.
@trumpwonBIGLY
@trumpwonBIGLY 3 місяці тому
no
@ACE112ACE112
@ACE112ACE112 3 місяці тому
rooting for a fictional character dictate someone's iemrl feelings necessarily
@keshi5541
@keshi5541 3 місяці тому
He sort of gets a redemption arc in the comics. Until he gets killed by his own clone.
@redblue5140
@redblue5140 2 місяці тому
yeah the show is not serious stuff like that isnt going to happen. its a satirical show its not a drama
@user-fd2ce5qo5c
@user-fd2ce5qo5c 2 місяці тому
i’d be nice to see him better himself
@burp3322
@burp3322 3 місяці тому
the biggest issue with this is, they address this in the show, starlight tries to blackmail homelander, destroy his brand, but he just shrugs it off, explaining that while he loves his brand, he would just be fine with taking control back by force, describing how hed destroy the world
@GigaLigma
@GigaLigma 3 місяці тому
He doesn't just say that he'd be "fine with it," he goes so far as to say he's being held back by his reputation and that without it he'd have no reason to keep pretending to be a good guy. Almost implies part of him WANTS something to happen to his reputation so he doesn't have to behave anymore.
@squiggur6258
@squiggur6258 3 місяці тому
yea this is not a theory he’s basically just summarizing the show
@sibsart2039
@sibsart2039 3 місяці тому
Ya, he says something like “if you destroy my image then I don’t need to hold back anymore”
@eavocado5890pppj
@eavocado5890pppj 3 місяці тому
@@GigaLigma ....but we know that's not true; he is clearly shown to care the most about his image and approval, and he literally has mommy issues.
@homerman76
@homerman76 3 місяці тому
​@@eavocado5890pppj It makes you wonder if he's actually just maintaining false bravado so people DON'T go after the one thing he really cares about 🤔
@tinywow344
@tinywow344 3 місяці тому
What I find interesting is that if you were to destroy homelanders brand, he would actually go farther off the deep end than he already has. In the show he said that if they destroyed his brand that he’d have nothing left to lose (or something like that) so it would open up a whole new problem for the show with him just being a flat out supervillain. Interesting as always matpat ❤
@adhamsherif6230
@adhamsherif6230 3 місяці тому
yea it was stated that the only thing holding homelander from killing everyone and everything is his narcissism and his need for consistent attention
@alexties6933
@alexties6933 3 місяці тому
The thing about having nothing left to loose is that you have lost everything lol
@ViperOnRR
@ViperOnRR 3 місяці тому
"Sure I'll lose everything, but then I'll have nothing to lose" is his exact phrasing
@djzombie5117
@djzombie5117 3 місяці тому
and that little quote kinda brings down the whole theory @@ViperOnRR
@axadrawzsom
@axadrawzsom 3 місяці тому
I was about to say that…..
@craftmaster343
@craftmaster343 3 місяці тому
He has already said he would go "scorched earth" if people began to hate him as at that point he'd have nothing to lose. However a small point mentioned in the show is that Zinc is apparently the one and only thing that he cannot use his x-ray vision to see through. This is the only "weakness" he's been confirmed to have.
@tominieminen66
@tominieminen66 Місяць тому
I was thinking about super hearing + loud noise but he shrugged off an explosion noise like nothing
@arthurmartin4616
@arthurmartin4616 29 днів тому
@@tominieminen66 Maybe if there was a way to sustain that kind of noise level? Because an explosion doesn't really last that long.
@tominieminen66
@tominieminen66 29 днів тому
@@arthurmartin4616 Ehh... explosion that close should definitely do the trick, he at least seemed completely unfazed Of course extended noise would be way worse, but he should have shown at least some effect to make this his weakness
@jonny-b4954
@jonny-b4954 10 годин тому
​@arthurmartin4616 Well, it was the sonic noise things Butcher used as a distraction. That annoyed him, but he could still function
@MensaGiraffe
@MensaGiraffe 3 місяці тому
You could have theorized Hughie teleporting Homelander near the Sun and leaving him to be pulled in by it's immense gravity. Even if Homelander was able to break away from the gravity (highly doubtful), he wouldn't be able to breathe in space. Or Hughie can attempt to teleport himself inside of Homelander, essentially destroying everything in his body.
@thedoomslayer5863
@thedoomslayer5863 3 місяці тому
The Second would be akin to putting yourself in a shrinking titanium cube. You'd be crushed to death. Inside out attacks won't work as he's just as durable in and out. Also if hughie even for milliseconds goes near the sun he will burn to a crisp. So it would be a self sacrifice attack
@MensaGiraffe
@MensaGiraffe 3 місяці тому
@@thedoomslayer5863 It would still be a possible method.
@froggo6339
@froggo6339 2 місяці тому
@@thedoomslayer5863 well yea, if hughie takes any more temp v he will die anyways. so yes it would be a self sacrifice as designed.
@mjb2697
@mjb2697 3 місяці тому
For the first time in a while, Pat missed. This theory was addressed in the show with Starlight trying to blackmail Homelander, who simply stated that he'd take power by force and wipe out entire cities if he must. So this is definitely NOT the way they're gonna have to bring Homelander down.
@SHSHSH21
@SHSHSH21 3 місяці тому
They also recently missed on the GTA VI trailer video where they claimed Michael was in witness protection lol
@WackMaDino
@WackMaDino 3 місяці тому
This is just kinda like a filler theory where he goes over a bunch of random stuff and tries to loop them together for a clickable video, it’s nothing new really he sorta has to put these out until the time comes for a bigger theory. Even still, the power scaling stuff in the first half of the video was good, I think he should do more stuff like that because he doesn’t really have to consider the wider context and story of the show to do fun calculations of how far man throw thing.
@xxcombatbasher001xx
@xxcombatbasher001xx 3 місяці тому
Honestly not the first time in a while. Feels like the theory channels have been on a downward trend with gta vi being a painful example.
@WackMaDino
@WackMaDino 3 місяці тому
@@xxcombatbasher001xx i still dont even know what people found so bad about that theory aside from the one line about witness protection, it seemed pretty standard
@user-ts1kp5dj9q
@user-ts1kp5dj9q 3 місяці тому
What else did he theorize thats just already been proven false? I remember the genshin video being one lololol. I think I've heard of another but im not sure, was it a video on vikings? His team is known to make extensive research so they dont make any mistakes but i wonder how many times theyve messed up​@@xxcombatbasher001xx
@InevitableMayo
@InevitableMayo 3 місяці тому
Big problem with the theory. Homelander has even said himself that if he goes down, he'll take the world with him. Unless you're killing him, you can't beat him.
@rapidagent4569
@rapidagent4569 3 місяці тому
Whats stopping them (aside from like capturing and stuff) from pulling another translucent.
@dautolover
@dautolover 3 місяці тому
It's also entirely possible that he was bluffing solely to prevent Starlight from releasing the tape. It was quite an easy bluff to pull off, considering Starlight legitimately cares about humanity.
@InevitableMayo
@InevitableMayo 3 місяці тому
@@dautolover To be fair there is that. He's so powerful, beyond what anyone actually realises, nobody knows what he's capable of. So when he says he'll destroy the world, he may not actually be capable. But the others don't know that
@xzeuii
@xzeuii 3 місяці тому
Also: Same thing happened in the comics. Rep ruined, so he gathered as many supes as he could, killed the president, and took over the country.
@MrSpartan993
@MrSpartan993 3 місяці тому
He NEEDS to die anyway.
@Toast._
@Toast._ 3 місяці тому
Hey Matpat,the jet Homelander threw in the comics was AV-8B Harrier which at empty weight is roughly 6,700lbs lighter than the F-16. Just noticed that mistake, love listening to ya theories!
@Conceptual69a
@Conceptual69a Місяць тому
"able to grab an f-16 fighter jet": shows a McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II
@weirdyadav
@weirdyadav Місяць тому
THANK YOU I WAS SO MAD AT THIS FOR NO REASON! GLAD SOMEONE ELSE NOTICED!!!
@pb_monkey
@pb_monkey 16 днів тому
Blah blah blah
@Conceptual69a
@Conceptual69a 15 днів тому
@@pb_monkey Nuh uh
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 3 місяці тому
This "weakness" is addressed in the show when Starlight threatens to blackmail him. As Homelander himself says (something to the effect of), "I'd rather be loved, but I'll settle for being feared." The fact that he cares about his reputation is the only thing that keeps him in check, but that can only be exploited so far. If he loses that, he would likely just go on a rampage. So robbing him of the adoration that he craves would actually be the worst thing you could do.
@ZerpFor
@ZerpFor 3 місяці тому
He's now praised for who he is. He has nothing to fear anymore
@CHRF-55457
@CHRF-55457 3 місяці тому
From superhero to supervillain
@panman4459
@panman4459 3 місяці тому
Theory idea: You should make a Duolingo theory where you analyse the lore of the characters off of the stories in the app.
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 3 місяці тому
His brand/reputation was a weakness at first but yes he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the change was initiated not by a spontaneous corporate/PR takeover but by the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. So therefore, his real weakness once the brand goes away is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family, having a son or father or mother figure. The father & mother figure boats may have sailed so it seems now that his main weakness will be Ryan, and I mean that not just as in he loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, strong enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.
@esmineldraaybara6975
@esmineldraaybara6975 3 місяці тому
I think the reason Butcher didn't die was because Homelander was shielding him while carrying him. So relative to Homelander, Butcher was at rest. While the air particles and other things which would've turned him to mush were blocked by Homelander. Similar to how fighter plane pilots are fine inside the plane at speeds at which humans would've become soup. Obviously the lift and stop would've still put immense amount of Gs on Butcher, which is why we see him waking up from being knocked out cold.
@skillzorz101
@skillzorz101 3 місяці тому
I think the acceleration would do a whole lot worse than causing unconsciousness. If a fighter pilot went from 0 to full speed, faster than an explosion, they would be dead even inside the cockpit. Your brain would be compressed on one side of your skull, for starters. It's like experience immense gravity for a split second.
@csquared973
@csquared973 2 місяці тому
Exactly- ur insides would liquefy
@ewutermohlen
@ewutermohlen 7 днів тому
​@@skillzorz101the comment assumes Butcher was accelerated at a more moderate pace. While being shielded from the blast, Homelander wanted to show Butcher something. So he kept him alive quite carefully since there were no signs of damage on Butcher.
@Ife-jw7ei
@Ife-jw7ei 3 місяці тому
his weakness is that he hasn’t fought anyone that’s a challenge for him so he won’t get any better
@recordedanemone6399
@recordedanemone6399 3 місяці тому
Homelander deadass one of the best written villains in cinema history. He's so unnervingly twisted it always makes for a great scene wherever he is.
@cubebutpro298
@cubebutpro298 3 місяці тому
​Matpat should make a film theory on you​@@PWRGEUTTP
@ViperOnRR
@ViperOnRR 3 місяці тому
Antony Starr's performance is incredible he just injects pure tension into every scene
@BarcaFan1899
@BarcaFan1899 3 місяці тому
⁠@@ViperOnRRI love that in a cast interview when they were asked which of them is most like their character everyone with no hesitation points to Antony
@NikkiBudders
@NikkiBudders 3 місяці тому
And due credit to his actor, my god that man can scare me with just a look. 12/10
@manuelk1853
@manuelk1853 3 місяці тому
And he is funny in a dark way
@FlameFoxen
@FlameFoxen 3 місяці тому
Matpat is just creeping closer to insanity each video
@TheSoviet0nion
@TheSoviet0nion 3 місяці тому
@TROLLSDETAINEDbot
@TheSoviet0nion
@TheSoviet0nion 3 місяці тому
I know lol
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@FPEAlice68
@FPEAlice68 3 місяці тому
Ik
@Dragonlady141
@Dragonlady141 3 місяці тому
Please do more theories on the Boys! There is so much to unwrap in this show!
@looneylunatic.2133
@looneylunatic.2133 3 місяці тому
It's sad because over more than the past decade, i have been watching you. Now without you is like a shock given it's one of the best things i remember from my childhood. Saying that makes me feel ancient myself ❤
@phaylnx
@phaylnx 3 місяці тому
The thing about the line of Homelander not having anything to stand on tells you a bit about his flight ability. He has true flight ability, and not the ability to create his own leverage, like Omni-man can.
@malcolm_mal2055
@malcolm_mal2055 3 місяці тому
But he does that when he slices the plain?
@jamesgreen9712
@jamesgreen9712 3 місяці тому
​@@malcolm_mal2055 why would he need leverage to use heat vision
@RampClosed68
@RampClosed68 3 місяці тому
@@malcolm_mal20551 that was his heat vision 2 if he flew at the plane then it would still break apart. He just could stop the plane safely because if he has nothing to stand on he can’t slow it down if he’s holding on to it. Any other attempts using his physical strength would just further damage the plane
@bd_local58
@bd_local58 3 місяці тому
@@RampClosed68 BRO , that wont work , its like putting blades through meat , he'll just destroy the part he's trying to lift the plane from making the survival rate go from 0% to -500%
@bigjalapeno7061
@bigjalapeno7061 3 місяці тому
Interesting
3 місяці тому
As far as Homelander’s lasers go, he has control over how intense and hot his lasers get. Truly a terrifying thought to have in the back of your head.
@Jen-hen
@Jen-hen 3 місяці тому
im smarter than matpat my theories are better
@Jen-hen
@Jen-hen 3 місяці тому
im smarter than matpat my theories are better
@CRYPT1X_27
@CRYPT1X_27 3 місяці тому
@@TROLLSDETAINED and @Jen-hen please shut up But yeah, very terrifying
@projekttaku1
@projekttaku1 3 місяці тому
Makes them way more useful tho, like if you want to heat something up instead of just blowing straight through it.
@nathansquared2685
@nathansquared2685 3 місяці тому
Not that you'd want to have his lasers in the back of your head...
@Lepushii
@Lepushii 3 місяці тому
Not many people appreciate this but the physics used behind each and every estimate that this channel gives us is beautiful.
@Vallavender333
@Vallavender333 3 місяці тому
My personal thoughts are that homelader is a big kid in some ways. A demented, tortured, powerful, sociopathic child. Being a weapon in a cold room from the beginning and nothing resembling a childhood happened. He's chasing comfort and love but can't seem to get it anywhere and throws tantrums. He's losing his parental figures and the rules he used to live under. He can either decide to just continue and use his power to take all the things he's basically already being given for his participation. Or he could learn the importance of other people. I'm not saying he's unresponsible for any of it. But sometimes early situations can teach you things that stop you from learning the basics. He will either tear apart his world trying to find any scap of meaning. Or he'll be able to change and avoid being the villain that needs to be taken down. But either way he's the only one who's going to be able to end his loneliness.
@HammtariProductions
@HammtariProductions 3 місяці тому
Matpat took the easy way out on this one, really wanted to see what he would come up with for a PHYSICAL weakness
@Judgement_Kazzy
@Judgement_Kazzy 3 місяці тому
I think the answer is in the other comments and videos comparing him to characters from other settings like Omni-man or the OG Superman. His only physical weakness is the one he shares with all heroes and villains in fiction: Power creep.
@youraveragejoe2712
@youraveragejoe2712 3 місяці тому
@@Judgement_Kazzy💀💀
@ACE112ACE112
@ACE112ACE112 3 місяці тому
Physical weakness, mention of his x-ray vision or an in-depth explanation on how to take down Homelander's brand.
@grimsbystalker
@grimsbystalker 3 місяці тому
@@professionalramenchefYeah and it will erase his powers too
@emilianorios4761
@emilianorios4761 3 місяці тому
But didn’t homelander say he’s just fine being feared? I mean I prefers being loved but he’ll accept fear also?
@JCasR3
@JCasR3 3 місяці тому
True, but living with power by fear leads to insanity. At least in most fiction it does.
@lunashenck
@lunashenck 3 місяці тому
@@JCasR3 By the time he goes insane humanity will be extinct
@JCasR3
@JCasR3 3 місяці тому
@@lunashenck Then he will be the classic ruler of nothing
@msmaria5039
@msmaria5039 3 місяці тому
He doesn't care as long as people think of him.
@gameymcgamer847
@gameymcgamer847 3 місяці тому
i think he was just lying to scare starlight
@scrawnytomato6582
@scrawnytomato6582 3 місяці тому
Im using this vid as inspiration for my harvard summer school essay. Wish me luck and thank you for sharing bro🙏🙏
@dancesmokesmile344
@dancesmokesmile344 3 місяці тому
2:35 Those seem perfect for Norwegian winters. Honestly, everything in the collection does
@apjtv2540
@apjtv2540 3 місяці тому
Omni Man has a few tips you could also try. Feeding him his own heart seemed to work.
@Jen-hen
@Jen-hen 3 місяці тому
im smarter than matpat my theories are better
@miyovebilesi2514
@miyovebilesi2514 3 місяці тому
DA Boyz!!
@OyacATG
@OyacATG 3 місяці тому
@@PWRGEUTTP go back to your 2nd grade class
@KyrosnoProductions
@KyrosnoProductions 3 місяці тому
Hello Death Battle fans
@gostarbloodline
@gostarbloodline 2 місяці тому
Death battle reference. Nice
@Robert53area
@Robert53area 3 місяці тому
This definitely needs a part 2 because this was more about his powers not about his weakness and how to beat him.
@_.FashionJunkie
@_.FashionJunkie 3 місяці тому
Exactly
@AlexMunz-bg3bc
@AlexMunz-bg3bc 3 місяці тому
Yeah maybe Ian can do something there
@samiakmw3681
@samiakmw3681 3 місяці тому
Because he doesn’t have a weakness 💀
@blackeagle3.55
@blackeagle3.55 3 місяці тому
You right
@grandmasteryoda6717
@grandmasteryoda6717 2 місяці тому
Now that's never happening since he's retiring.
@surviverplaysuplayer1142
@surviverplaysuplayer1142 3 місяці тому
God i will miss these theories hahaha Hopefully the channels will stay so i can keep playing them in tge background while working
@skyssleepy
@skyssleepy 3 місяці тому
Can't believe he's leaving. :( Goodbye Matt we will miss you so much
@AloneSpreeGaming720
@AloneSpreeGaming720 3 місяці тому
Matpat explains the surface lore of homelander for 15 minutes and comes to the same conclusion they tried and failed to achieve in the show, really said "if we had prep time we'll plan our funeral" 👁️👄👁️
@user-lk7be2te5o
@user-lk7be2te5o Місяць тому
Exactly man , I wasted my 15 mins
@mop.head.studios
@mop.head.studios 3 місяці тому
MatPat, not only does Homelander save butcher from the explosion, he also saved the baby that I'm pretty sure was on the OTHER SIDE of the room. He is crazy fast.
@benjoyce8034
@benjoyce8034 3 місяці тому
It was revealed later during season 3, that the baby has teleportation powers
@mop.head.studios
@mop.head.studios 3 місяці тому
@@benjoyce8034 what
@worples2373
@worples2373 3 місяці тому
​@@mop.head.studios Teddy makes a cameo in a supe institution where he's revealed to be able to teleport
@mop.head.studios
@mop.head.studios 3 місяці тому
@@worples2373 oh fr? oh well I had no idea that’s pretty cool, also makes sense that Madelyn would dose her baby up with compound v
@totallynotmiless
@totallynotmiless 3 місяці тому
Actually Teddy teleported
@brendanrisney2449
@brendanrisney2449 3 місяці тому
I love how it's made very clear just how much control he has over his powers, and still refuses to use that control 90% of the time.
@Ahyanoo-cc4ke
@Ahyanoo-cc4ke 3 місяці тому
5:03 for anyone wondering why matpat didnt say why he was distracted its because homelander was doing some weird stuff with one of the female superheroes if you know you know
@iamlosingmysanityrapidly
@iamlosingmysanityrapidly 3 місяці тому
oh my god no
@Caffeine_Club
@Caffeine_Club 3 місяці тому
This is definitely one of the most enjoyable shows on television now. Homelander is an S-tier villain. Perfectly acted by Antony Starr. Edit: A to S. He could stand shoulder to shoulder with Thanos and Vader.
@LokelyConed
@LokelyConed 3 місяці тому
What tv channel is it on? I thought it was an Amazon prime exclusive
@TheAlphazoneYT
@TheAlphazoneYT 3 місяці тому
⁠@@LokelyConedIt is just an Amazon Prime TV Exclusive
@treasure9342
@treasure9342 3 місяці тому
Oof not even S💀
@ashenzenden
@ashenzenden 3 місяці тому
is he a likeable character like a lot of villains or is he just flat out evil and not likeable at all?
@CorpseMarine
@CorpseMarine 3 місяці тому
​@ashenzenden you have to be a very specific person to like homelander. Is is basically pure psychotic evil in the show with no redeeming factors. Every time he is on screen it's tense as you don't know what he is going to do.
@maciejnowak3047
@maciejnowak3047 3 місяці тому
The greatest power of Homelander isn't his ability to destroy everything and everyone, but his insane endurance. if he wasnt literally unkillable, the show would have ended in like 2 episodes
@hannesromhild8532
@hannesromhild8532 3 місяці тому
How do you even get that? He's got clearly very low limits. The weight of just three guys was holding him down but he freed himself barely and escaped. in the same fight punches that barely scratch a wall did hurt him. Sorry but Homelander should be toast by just using handheld anti armor weapons from WW2. He would die to kinetic anti armor weapons thats for sure.
@timmyingelbrecht6977
@timmyingelbrecht6977 3 місяці тому
In season 1 they do mention the militairy threw everything they had at him to see if they could hurt him and it failed
@WorldWalker128
@WorldWalker128 3 місяці тому
@@hannesromhild8532His powers are linked to 'what the plot needs them to be'. At times he's Evil Superman, and at times he's (strangely) Evil Superwimp.
@Raven1T2
@Raven1T2 3 місяці тому
@@hannesromhild8532 The three guys who all had v running through them giving them super strength? Yea, watch the show properly next time
@Raven1T2
@Raven1T2 3 місяці тому
Oh and two of which who had powers equal to homelander, soldier boy being near equal, and butcher having homelanders powers, minus flight.
@zaynebrown9072
@zaynebrown9072 3 місяці тому
Thanks for everything Matt
@yeetman9892
@yeetman9892 3 місяці тому
Thanks you for coming up with all thse theories matpat
@FoxxOrigins
@FoxxOrigins 3 місяці тому
I'm pretty sure that the plane at 4:32 is not an F-16 but rather an Harrier, which is recognisable at it's rounded air intakes on the sides, where F-16s have a single intake below the cockpit in a smiley shape.
@kanasimp1
@kanasimp1 3 місяці тому
yea, as a plane enthusiast than irked me
@26th_Primarch
@26th_Primarch 3 місяці тому
​@@kanasimp1same
@artraudgaming3575
@artraudgaming3575 3 місяці тому
also the gear
@richardsears4665
@richardsears4665 3 місяці тому
was gonna say this but you beat me
@Ichutusioso
@Ichutusioso 3 місяці тому
Went to comments to find this, Have my like.
@stressmelo3372
@stressmelo3372 3 місяці тому
I love this kind of Film Theory. Putting real numbers to movies instead of lore and controversy. Keep doing more of this Mat
@Gemma-Majoran
@Gemma-Majoran 3 місяці тому
once upon a time matpat didnt chase trends, he just made funny number and science observations on stuff like this nowadays hes targeting the kids trends
@kieferrea4819
@kieferrea4819 3 місяці тому
​@@Gemma-Majoranyeahh it sucks that he does it but it's what works, it's why he was 4 channels with such big subscriber counts
@V.Poulos
@V.Poulos 3 місяці тому
Sadly I must inform you that I liked this comment when it had 69 likes.
@Rablisineabbinsine
@Rablisineabbinsine 3 місяці тому
@@kieferrea4819Bro what that doesn’t even make any sense, he’s not chasing trends he’s just chasing good theory material.
@kieferrea4819
@kieferrea4819 3 місяці тому
@@Rablisineabbinsine it makes a lot of sense, even if you don't agree
@beansandpizza0375
@beansandpizza0375 3 місяці тому
New food theory episode idea! "Does a Spoonfull of sugar REALLY help the medicine go down?"
@wartredex1033
@wartredex1033 3 місяці тому
hey mat pat i really love your videos and there so interesting and I love theory wear!!
@user-xr7qy6ub3g
@user-xr7qy6ub3g 3 місяці тому
I don’t think taking down the brand would do anything. There’s a convo between Homelander and Starlight where she threatens to take down his brand and he says “Yes, maybe i will lose everything, but then I’ll have nothing to lose”
@mattz9268
@mattz9268 3 місяці тому
Correction to 4:32: that’s an AV-8 Harrier. Empty weight is 14,000lbs. I would measure it by its empty weight because you typically don’t store a plane fueled up with all of its weapons mounted.
@wanton47
@wanton47 3 місяці тому
beat me to it
@rramrez32ja
@rramrez32ja 3 місяці тому
@@wanton47same lol I saw Harrier and heard F16 my brain snapped
@nicetechtips2629
@nicetechtips2629 3 місяці тому
Air intakes give it away... And the droopy wings :)
@tothmatyas2177
@tothmatyas2177 3 місяці тому
Its a Harrier 2 bc of the roundend nose+ different wings.
@nyafu_uwu
@nyafu_uwu 3 місяці тому
when i saw that and heard f16 it got me kinda angry ngl
@tnaxpw
@tnaxpw 3 місяці тому
You can tell that Mat didn't watch the boys close enough, as he would have known that they tried that and he was like "I would go full R and you never go full R"
@tomasrojas5304
@tomasrojas5304 3 місяці тому
I recommend doing a analysis on "Emesis Blue" next.
@gigglehurtz3167
@gigglehurtz3167 3 місяці тому
worth noting he not only breaks through normal humans with a punch, he routinely punches through "supes"
@DangericeDreams
@DangericeDreams 3 місяці тому
It’s crazy to think how Homelander is so threatening to other characters in universe but would realistically lose to someone like Omni Man.
@Slayer0fSun
@Slayer0fSun 3 місяці тому
​@@PWRGEUTTPyou're so smart yet you resort to bait comments to advertise your channel
@littlekuribohimposte
@littlekuribohimposte 3 місяці тому
It's like they said on Death Battle, Homelander's a big fish in a small pond. Compare him to actual metahumans and he's nothing.
@user-fd2ce5qo5c
@user-fd2ce5qo5c 3 місяці тому
if Homelander knew how to fight he’d be way more terrifying
@Gotwired
@Gotwired 3 місяці тому
Omniman is a beast, though. He could probably solo the MCU and DCEU except for maybe time hax.
@ViperOnRR
@ViperOnRR 3 місяці тому
Yea homelander is a character that's meant to just be a bully and if he ever went up against anyone remotely near him in power he'd be curb stomped bcs he doesn't know how to actually fight
@sarutanku
@sarutanku 3 місяці тому
I haven't finished, but I think you should add a #4 to that list of Homelanders most iconic powers list Mr Film Theory man 3:23, cause time and time again does the show stop for a character to fearfully say,"Careful! Homelander could probably hear us." And indeed, one of Homelander's other most iconic things is that super hearing that not only lets him eavesdrop on any conversation in his immediate vicinity, no matter the size of the building or the barriers, and that it's also useless to hide if he comes looking for you because he'll hear your heartbeat. Not only that, Homelander talks about how he listens in on people's breathing and heartbeats to be able to tell when they're afraid of him or not during their interactions, or if they're lying.
@happysadkidz
@happysadkidz 3 місяці тому
there are so many numbers in this episode 💀 i have no idea what most of them really mean, but i appreciate mat trying to explain 😂❤
@ShaggysMovingPictureBox
@ShaggysMovingPictureBox 3 місяці тому
Fun twist on the word “beat”. While he would be beaten politically, his implosion would just help him become the villain in everyone’s eyes while he actually becomes a supervillain, hellbent on destroying everyone else Just my thoughts
@whatdadogdoin634
@whatdadogdoin634 3 місяці тому
Im also sure this theory means beating what Homelander actually is, not the person itself, everyone hates Homelander as in the concept itself but the person who is Homelander is basically going around killing everyone, so its a win-lose situation, it's like how real world internet personalities get exposed and basically being hated by everyone but just because they hate them doesn't mean the person behind the personality isn't gone off the face of the earth, they're still around doing things and could return as an even worse person than before
@camwoz5181
@camwoz5181 3 місяці тому
The fact that Homelander can outrun a c4 explosion but GALLOPED and lost to get the middle chair from Stan is extra funny.
@Worldofbengamin
@Worldofbengamin 3 місяці тому
Hey I have an idea of a video can we get a breakdown of Unacron for transformers rise of the beasts it would be interesting knowing more about him how he works and much more about him
@animatorslife9733
@animatorslife9733 28 днів тому
Film theory is the only channel I am willing to sit the merch segment through. (Also the other thoerist channels)
@protoxur1258
@protoxur1258 3 місяці тому
I like how the theory channels just care about having fun with their work. It doesn’t always have to be a realistic theory, just something fun to think about
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@skinskinner
@skinskinner 3 місяці тому
waht
@slendrio
@slendrio 3 місяці тому
What's going on with these goofy ahh bots
@illusivedestroyer909
@illusivedestroyer909 3 місяці тому
The best part of this series is how the fans always act like they’re part of the universe and act like civilians reacting to the insanity in this show
@lazy_guy_2525
@lazy_guy_2525 3 місяці тому
We will remember you forever matpat
@wretched17
@wretched17 3 місяці тому
Very minor nitpick, but you forgot his ability of xray vision which also allows him to read vital signs like heart rate. That's gotta be some crazy mental acquity there mayhaps. Great vid 👌
@addzy13
@addzy13 3 місяці тому
As other people have said, Homelander losing his brand would be a much WORSE situation for everyone. They deliberately make this a point in the show. If he has nothing to lose, all bets are off.
@matthewstaplers1154
@matthewstaplers1154 3 місяці тому
I'd also like to point out the Death Battle of Homelander vs Omni-Man where they show while Homelander is an impressive hero he's as they put it "A big fish in a small pond" Compared to most other heroes in cinema he's not that tough.
@legendariflame5304
@legendariflame5304 3 місяці тому
Niether are most of the superman parodies
@cingkrayz1959
@cingkrayz1959 3 місяці тому
​@PWRGEUTTP no one loves you or anyone else tied to UTTP. As for @matthewstaplers1154, just ignore the UTTP guys. I just needed to vent after seeing at least 50 of these things all over.
@PurpleStickman
@PurpleStickman 3 місяці тому
Homelander stood no chance there
@flashergoldpower15
@flashergoldpower15 3 місяці тому
But still, Homelander never stood a chance against Omni man. Not even once
@justaman9957
@justaman9957 3 місяці тому
please do a video about the "entities" on "Talk to me" movie
@LivingUnderRock
@LivingUnderRock 3 місяці тому
Finally a brief interlude into my area of expertise (combat vehicles). Although I don’t have the comic which could call the vehicle an F16 the fighter jet depicted in the shown comic appears to be a harrier jump jet however Its weight is similar if fully fueled to the listed weight.
@AllenTheAnimator004
@AllenTheAnimator004 3 місяці тому
Matpat: How to defeat Homelan- Omni Man: Think Matt,think!
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 3 місяці тому
You know Matt is the true danger when he does guide on defeating Homelander
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@JemarcusTheLamb87
@JemarcusTheLamb87 3 місяці тому
HEISENBERG! I’ve missed you!
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@stuartclarke2988
@stuartclarke2988 3 місяці тому
IM SMARTER THAN MATPAT MY THEORIES ARE BETTER
@GNMmaybe
@GNMmaybe 3 місяці тому
I’ll miss him so much I’ve watched all of his videos across all channels he was the only one who could make me laugh so hard I cried goodbye Matpat for now I know we’ll all catch you later
@Hazeshade
@Hazeshade 3 місяці тому
Thank you ao much matt you built our childhoods and we wont forget it
@danieledwards4310
@danieledwards4310 3 місяці тому
It feels like they haven't watched the whole show with this one because its a plot point they've already done, trying to control him through his ego but he turns it on them saying he'll just be a villain
@Gears_Starting
@Gears_Starting 3 місяці тому
I wonder how effective poison would be. Maybe someone could spike his milk.
@Full_hoe_fully
@Full_hoe_fully 3 місяці тому
You should make a theory on crazy parking
@doingrandomshit
@doingrandomshit 3 місяці тому
I love the theory that homelander will run for president! Really think you are onto something there! However I do not think homelander will be defeated by destroying his image. As many people in the comment section pointed out this was already touched upon in the show when Starlight blackmails him with the plane video. So I think he will ultimately either be defeated by Newman exploding his head, her supe-virus from genV or in a good old fashioned fight with the boys. Another interesting thing you didn't mention is that homelander cant see through zink. That may be a weakness the boys could exploit to trick him somehow.
@Dante-fb9ej
@Dante-fb9ej 3 місяці тому
I find it kind of funny how people are powerscaling Homelander as weak and stuff like that when we haven't even seen ANYTHING from him yet. We don't know the full extent of his powers, especially not in the show. I feel like we'll see some crazy feats in S4.
@dashfire3185
@dashfire3185 3 місяці тому
Yeah, why push yourself when you don't have to? He could just fool around because to regular people he feels like god
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 3 місяці тому
He's weak, SoilderBoy and Queen Maeve where able to make him bleed, and they're "naturally" ocurring supes
@bananageneral5217
@bananageneral5217 3 місяці тому
@@jesusramirezromo2037there are no natural Supes. They are all made from compound V
@legendariflame5304
@legendariflame5304 3 місяці тому
@@jesusramirezromo2037 thats like saying omni man and mark are weak because they got beaten by viltrumites that arent descendants of Argoll. Homelander cannot be killed by normal means or anyone below very strong supes in the world.
@TheOpalHammer
@TheOpalHammer 3 місяці тому
​@jesusramirezromo2037 Soldierboy is literally invincible and Maeve had trained intensly beforehand. I reckon homelander hasn't done a day of excersize in his life (something that might change next season)
@jspurg
@jspurg 3 місяці тому
Homeland without a brand to care about is vastly more terrifying. I really hope season 6 goes that route cause it could really reinvigorate the series at that point
@Iotuseater
@Iotuseater 3 місяці тому
Only 5 seasons planned right?
@kainingyao7873
@kainingyao7873 3 місяці тому
Don't forget that Death Battle episode where Homelander got killed off in one of the most violent and graphic ways ever possible by Omni-Man, who absolutely curbstomps him in virtually every possible way imaginable despite all of his sheer power.
@1acroyear1
@1acroyear1 3 місяці тому
Wow. The quintessence of subtlety.
@regionfuego6
@regionfuego6 3 місяці тому
Is always a bit weird when Mat Pat takes a swing into powerscaling. But is always interesting nonetheless
@i24kpandamonium26
@i24kpandamonium26 3 місяці тому
Yeah it’s a nice experience
@carry7871
@carry7871 Місяць тому
If the Novichok nerve agent could impact Soldier boy, his father, then its probably reasonable to assume it would have a similar effect on him
@Guizhong_
@Guizhong_ 3 місяці тому
MATPAT I WILL MISS YOU T^T, you’ve been apart of millions of childhoods and for that I want to thank you, you’ve been apart of me and my brother’s childhoods for years
@lunatpr5594
@lunatpr5594 3 місяці тому
Imagine Death Battle's Omni-Man vs Homelander, but with MatPat instead of Omni-Man.
@projekttaku1
@projekttaku1 3 місяці тому
Its just matpat soundly explaining to homelander how, if he actually decided to do whatever he want, the world's governments would just launch their nukes at him to at least heavily injure and knock him out, then send him in a rocket to the moon.
@scargamer0022
@scargamer0022 3 місяці тому
​@@projekttaku1 nukes do nothing they already threw a nuke at him while he was a baby
@therenegadegamer7422
@therenegadegamer7422 3 місяці тому
Did matpat forget the scene where homelander threatens starlight saying that he'll just go on a rampage and rule as a dictator claiming that he would prefer to he loved but is also okay with being feared
@eavocado5890pppj
@eavocado5890pppj 3 місяці тому
yeah, but we know that's not true from the many more scenes that disproved that.
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 3 місяці тому
@@eavocado5890pppj Exactly Homelander was bluffing when he said that because he knew him and Annie were in a private area to scare her if he said that in public the people would turn on him in a heartbeat.
@josephwiessner1558
@josephwiessner1558 3 місяці тому
There have been a few cases of Mat not getting certain details right like saying the Sonic movie was released by Sony when it was actually Paramount
@woodrobin
@woodrobin 3 місяці тому
Homelander running for President is a thought, but consider the words of Lex Luthor in Justice League Unlimited: "Do you know how much power I'd have to *give up* to be President?".
@rapidagent4569
@rapidagent4569 3 місяці тому
Butcher mentions that this is their (the seven's or any supe with a PR team) weakness in the third episode
@abhisheklama1393
@abhisheklama1393 3 місяці тому
Pretty sure if Homelander did try to “go rogue” like in his threat to Starlight, Vought would easily bring him down. He was almost beaten by just three guys. And two of them were on Temp V which Vought created. Vought could easily outsource Temp V to an elite squad which they possess ample numbers of and the squad would rip Homelander apart.
@JohnBrett715
@JohnBrett715 3 місяці тому
Possibly, but Vought has always been holding the tiger by the tail when it comes to Homelander. Their tactics of keeping him in check (other than strapping a nuke to him) has always been psychology. Of course now with temp v things may be different. Also depends whether they use some of the tactics/plotlines used in the comics
@San-lh8us
@San-lh8us 3 місяці тому
well, one of these three guys is possibly the second stronger Supe in history, and the entire plan on beating homelander there was to hit him with soldier boy's beam to take away homelander's powers
@mon_nobi
@mon_nobi 3 місяці тому
Despite all its insane superhero trappings, I feel like this show at its core is actually about family. Homelander's brand/reputation was a weakness at first but he outgrew that as he started to take control of both Vought and his own life, but the catalyst of those changes were the realization that he has a family bloodline. He literally seized power upon finding out that he was lied to and not actually infertile/impotent. He hated being controlled/lied to and so his methods to achieving freedom from control was to control and lie. These methods could eventually alienate Ryan, who is currently his main anchor to his humanity by being a form of psychological redemption as HL desires to be a good dad, so I think that his real weakness, once/if the brand fully goes away, is his attachments to his humanity, specifically things like family and having a son or father or mother figure. Without any other father or mother figures to lean on I think his main weakness will end up being Ryan, and not just as in HL loses Ryan's trust, but as in he comes to blows with his superpowered son, who is powerful enough to melt Stormfront, and essentially the main one who can challenge him both emotionally and physically.
@Stevepoku
@Stevepoku 3 місяці тому
That would be most realistic and most humiliating end for Homelander. He isn't the real threat, corporations are in this. He's just the tip of the iceberg
@99Plastics
@99Plastics 3 місяці тому
the show has one of the worst inuniverse consistent logics
@dosilius2568
@dosilius2568 3 місяці тому
12:46 whoever said these were good examples, It wasn't me. To make it worse, an image of Logan Paul during THAT day.
@myrandomchanneI
@myrandomchanneI 3 місяці тому
That’s the point he’s saying that most influencers are bad people
@dosilius2568
@dosilius2568 3 місяці тому
@@myrandomchanneI ikr
@trd8749
@trd8749 2 місяці тому
4:29 sorry to be a nerd, but that doesn't look like an F16, it looks like an AV8B Harrier (famous for its VTOL capability).
@meghanbailey8914
@meghanbailey8914 3 місяці тому
Theoryware is gonna get to be in stores one day
@Mrtablespoon.
@Mrtablespoon. 3 місяці тому
5:05 yeah “distracted”
@itcaboi1707
@itcaboi1707 3 місяці тому
4:32 Matpat has the jets wrong here. Notice the two intakes and wing landing struts indicating that the jet is in instead a harrier jet not an f16 which has only one intake at the bottom. The American version of the harrier, the AV-8B has an empty weight close to 14000 lbs.
@Solarfieds
@Solarfieds 3 місяці тому
there is a show called " Bee and Puppycat " that despite the name, seems to have a pretty dark, confusing, and hard to piece together lore that I'd love to have you figure it out! ( its on netflix btw )
@mattlang2286
@mattlang2286 3 місяці тому
Shorts wars season 2 is out and there is someone new.
@Spidoc
@Spidoc 3 місяці тому
they have discussed multiple times in the show how killing his reputation would only make him a bigger threat because now he has no reason to not go on a rampage
@adamallen7070
@adamallen7070 3 місяці тому
Big shoutout to Matpat for putting himself back onto the fbi watchlist after researching how fast C4 detonates. I’m sure after doing the spiderman miles morales episode with the nuke it took a while to get off the list
@ownsundae
@ownsundae 3 місяці тому
Thanks for breakibg my youtube with your merch film theory
@ST4R_606
@ST4R_606 3 місяці тому
You need to make a video about Poison Ivy:how can pi (Poison Ivy for short) control plant molecules/cells with animal cells
@reubenoakley5887
@reubenoakley5887 3 місяці тому
0:20 The Boys is not a show about what a world with super heroes would look like. It's a show about what a world with superheroes would look like if a single corporate entity retained a monopoly on those heroes by way of government enforcement (and also everyone was an asshole)
@ultragodzillafan
@ultragodzillafan 3 місяці тому
Minor problem with this theory: If Homelander no longer has his brand, what's to stop him for going on a random killing spree and taking over that way. The only thing that keeps him in check is his desire to be loved by everyone. If he doesn't have that, he becomes much more dangerous.
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 3 місяці тому
He's even said as much himself when Starlight threatened to blackmail him. As he says, he'd rather be loved but if that's not an option he'll settle for being feared.
@esmineldraaybara6975
@esmineldraaybara6975 3 місяці тому
If you make other videos, discuss other attributes of his super powers like super endurance, super senses (smell, hearing, memory?). And super screaming.
@Dark_Slayer3000
@Dark_Slayer3000 3 місяці тому
When his brand dies, he's probably going on his villain arc and eradicating humanity...
@thepopeisnotawarcriminal
@thepopeisnotawarcriminal 3 місяці тому
God, the show is so much better than the original comics run. I’m just surprised that MatPat made this video
@chadharger9323
@chadharger9323 3 місяці тому
Thing about the comic is that the creator is on record saying he hates superhero comics. On the surface The Boys looks like a superhero deconstruction like Watchmen or Irredeemable, it's mostly the author raging against superheroes.
@shayaankhusro4104
@shayaankhusro4104 3 місяці тому
The theory I'm interested in is how come the temp Compound V gave Butch and Hughie the exact counters for the heroes they have grudge against?
@littledudefromacrossthestr5755
@littledudefromacrossthestr5755 3 місяці тому
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@KeaveMind
@KeaveMind 3 місяці тому
Hughie did not have super speed? He could teleport. I think temp v just powers up your personal source of power. For butcher it's hate, so he got the laser eyes and for Hughes it's fear or something, cause he's more the get outta there type
@razorsharp1371
@razorsharp1371 3 місяці тому
Butcher and homeowner are actually incredibly similar people, I think that their powers work the same is a narrative choice to show that they're the same.
@midnight_marshadow
@midnight_marshadow 3 місяці тому
​@KeaveMind he said they were counters for the heroes they hate, the only real counter to super speed would be teleportation.
@crazagres1839
@crazagres1839 3 місяці тому
@@midnight_marshadow Or super speed of your own. Or any sufficient AOE power. Teleportation isn't even a good counter since it'll just stall and not win. Might not even be able to stall if the speedster is strong.
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