Film Theory: Omni Man was Right?! (Invincible)
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@YTDaveyyyy 4 місяці тому
fun fact about immortal, a fan told the creator in a letter that they felt immortal looked like lincoln, so the creator decided to add it into the lore
@wyattrox11 4 місяці тому
If that isn’t a great example of creators taking inspiration from fans, I don’t know what is
@anthonyortiz350 4 місяці тому
That's so sweet 😊
@nukemaster7624 4 місяці тому
In the comics, Immortal revealed he was Lincoln's body double that took the bullet for him
@Vlaxor 4 місяці тому
or just a morality flipped vandal savage from DC... Feels exactly like that to me
@terencebaker306 4 місяці тому
@@VlaxorVandal savage is just an immortal human from the cavemen days. He can't fly or use super strength. Although in hindsight Vandal Savage would beat immortal In my opinion
@Wyvernatus 4 місяці тому
60 years for Omni-Man equaling 1.6 human years is actually quite horrifying when you think about it.
@sentientfetus3894 4 місяці тому
Some can relate to less intelligent recognize sentences. In other beings and time they have and time they are . Like insects. It actually came up in the last episode with those bug people
@homerman76 4 місяці тому
Really puts things into perspective when shows like this and Frieren: Beyond Journey's End, show the long living characters as having a really poor sense of time, our lifespan really isn't that much in comparison to theirs.
@transyuri4534 4 місяці тому
That actually reminds me of my first girlfriend. We were together for about a year.
@boeloevanboeloefontein 4 місяці тому
And the fact that fraction is only going to get even shorter as time goes on due to his aging rate just getting slower and slower makes it a whole lot worse.
@projekttaku1 4 місяці тому
Imagine literally dating, marrying and having a child with someone within the span of 1.6 years: That's what happened with Debbie from Nolan's pov.
@AluminumFusion22 4 місяці тому
I love Invincible because on the surface it seems like yet another superhero show that says that the very notion of a superhero helping people is absurd, but when watching the show it makes you root for Mark when he becomes the heroic persona Omni-Man was merely pretending to be. It's not a deconstruction of the superhero genre; it's a reconstruction of it.
@gustavozuniga3059 4 місяці тому
I was not rooting for him dude was annoying and the best part was when he got whooped
@mr_h831 4 місяці тому
@@gustavozuniga3059Seems like you lack the empathy stuff Matt was talking about.
@nicksmith332 4 місяці тому
@@gustavozuniga3059goddamn you cut me with your edginess from across the internet
@milicenty 4 місяці тому
@@mr_h831 seems you forget it's a fictional series. People can root for who they want to as long as it's not applied to real life
@WilliamDailyReacts 3 місяці тому
@@gustavozuniga3059 we are sick because those are my favorites. Especially when he died that one episode it was enjoyable.
@Ihavearacistgrandma2 3 місяці тому
7:07 “there’s a DRAGON behind you!” “I’m on vacation”
@EDPickle445 29 днів тому
Put a moai face after the im on vacation trust me
@Qbeakl 18 днів тому
@@EDPickle445I “There’s a dragon behind you” “I’m on vacation 🗿”
@heatherquinn777 4 місяці тому
This has unintentionally explained exactly why we shouldn't have elderly people in leadership positions
@viennasavage9110 4 місяці тому
TRUE LOL
@temparalflux914 4 місяці тому
How empathetic of you.
@osmosisjones4912 4 місяці тому
And the same argument against the Biden crime family also we investigated sources we deem credible say no evidence. Those are Same arguments that 2020 was a secure election
@phelps6205 4 місяці тому
@@temparalflux914 the problem is old people aren't empathetic.
@venomfan2020 4 місяці тому
Yeah, especially the presidents 🙄
@asator3461 4 місяці тому
Matpat really said "Friendship was the true saviour all along"
@omieva 4 місяці тому
"This truly was our invincible"
@HishamA.N_Comicbroe 4 місяці тому
Maybe the real Invincible was the friends we made along the way
@trejackson2139 4 місяці тому
Friendship would have to be your saving grace because scientifically people's minds change after a couple years and you would not have the same person that you met originally I think it's like people's personalities change once every 10 years or something like that...
@DLGanimator 4 місяці тому
"It's no use... but why can't I defeat you?,, "Heh, because we are SONIC HEROES!,,
@Theguineachannel 4 місяці тому
In the end it was the freinds we made along the way, that makes us invincible- omni man
@cringetastic1659 3 місяці тому
1000 years could come and go, and the Matpat era of theories will never feel insignificant. Thank you, the entire theory team, for so many wonderful years
@Raptor44256 4 місяці тому
Even from the little bit of show we have seen, Nolan’s character is shaped by social conditioning that he begins to change as soon as mark is born. The special that shows Mark and Nolan early on, Nolan visibly shudders at the thought of harming Mark when he’s so young. Neural plasticity is heavily influenced by usage in cognitively normal individuals and can be improved in individuals with impairments. Earth being the first planet Nolan is used to conquer in the way it is all the way to his interactions with the bug people emphasize that.
@skypigfilms 4 місяці тому
Matpat using invincible to teach me more about human brain development in a 20 minute video than a semester long psychology class
@THE_EDGEDAY_WATCHER 4 місяці тому
I know right? MatPat Psych theory for the win!
@ronin8741 4 місяці тому
Exactly 😂😂😂😂
@alyissaaragon6943 4 місяці тому
His information is oversimplified and slightly inaccurate.
@mrmills45 12 днів тому
@@alyissaaragon6943Care to explain how and why?
@zachrobledo2252 4 місяці тому
The best part about Season 1 to Season 2 is you see Nolan's reaction from the line of "You, Dad. I'd have you." There's no time jump. We get to see the torment that line sends him through as we follow him through space. He completely loses all faith in his cause because he realized Mark was right and that they'd still have each other to help each other through their grief of losing all their friends and loved ones and watching Earth turn to dust. It finally cracked Nolan's psyche and he almost kills himself because of what he did to his own son.
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@fn-scar6780 4 місяці тому
spoiler: Noland does die and its really ironic because the one thing he thought hed have in 500 years died,
@JustYourLocalHumanBeanMan 4 місяці тому
@@Red-dt84you don’t have a video on ur channel tho
@thecaptainfalcon3316 4 місяці тому
I loved it when in the alternate timeline Mark is able to get him to break his psyche also without getting the guardians of the globe killed. Showed how the relationship was always there and how much smarter Mark was becoming
@ayuballena8217 4 місяці тому
@@Red-dt84what content
@elaphantykid8016 4 місяці тому
Its cool to see Matpat nailing the points on the head here, especially considering that Nolan gained empathy after having a second child and forming new relationships
@legendarycat9084 4 місяці тому
Bro, as someone in the field of health science and with a sister in the field of psychology, I applaud you in your use of biology to make your point. As always, your research is impeccable
@BatAmerica 4 місяці тому
Nolan and Mark have such an interesting dynamic with season 2. We've seen evil men turn good and our heroes broken, but having a father-son dynamic where each party is in pain. Yet, Mark capitalizes on his anger to shield him from pain, utterly unaware of how similar he is to Nolan, a unique storytelling device. I can't wait to see the second half of season 2.
@rickvillanueva7345 4 місяці тому
to bad he dies in the comics after fighting thrag.
@osmosisjones4912 4 місяці тому
What about people who relate smaller beings every little individual
@weedcaat 4 місяці тому
@@rickvillanueva7345 i hate so much of how you are
@mikhailskvoznyak5551 4 місяці тому
dude, not cool, let people enjoy the show @@rickvillanueva7345
@BatAmerica 4 місяці тому
@@osmosisjones4912 I was thinking about that. Only to realize Thanos did something similar.
@ZIXIPER 4 місяці тому
On that life span comparison, the show itself does a pretty good job bringing Omni Man's perspective to us in season 2 episode 4 with the bug people, which they said only live to an equivalent of 1 human year only minutes later, we see them slaughtered by other viltrumites It was almost as if the show was asking if we feel the same empathy for a species that lives that short It was crazy to see the number of people who were watching it say something along the lines of "well you were gonna die in a month or so anyways"
@unusualusername8847 4 місяці тому
Honestly it's even more tragic those people died because they lived so long relatively only to be slaughtered by a alien threat suddenly
@astralakushi 4 місяці тому
wow we really are no better. Just biased to be on the human side
@BTK_R3SPIRATION 4 місяці тому
So basically there is a life span:empathy ratio.
@mertenjemoo2511 4 місяці тому
Im comics they live for about 9 months
@Ganggangbuzzbuzz 4 місяці тому
Anyone who has had a dog that aged out knows.
@smtoonentertainment 4 місяці тому
We all know omni man is right, that’s what makes Mark such an amazing character. He knows the pain he’ll face but does it anyway and sticks to his ideals.
@dafilmqueen556 3 місяці тому
He's only right because Mark is genetically immortal. Let's not forget Nolan is messed up-a lack of a wholesome childhood, an immortal body, a whole philosophy of war and survival of the fittest, how on earth is he gonna be right if the reason he behaves this way is because he has no concept of empathy?
@TheOGRokma 4 місяці тому
6:20 really just quoted smash mouth all stars there mat... Clap and a half
@Thwal 4 місяці тому
Nolan doesn't completely lack empathy, though. There are a couple moments where he shows regret for his actions and how he's hurt the people around him. When Cecil tells him the the guardians were his friends, so he knew that Nolan didn't do it for the fun of it. And as he says this, he looks away and does the same thing when Cecil brings up debbie and mark. There's another moment when he thinks about attacking debbie, before snapping out of it and is disappointed and angry at himself for even considering it.
@erdm8153 4 місяці тому
Yeah he even is more empathetic in season 2. He even shows empathy towards a alien race that has a 6 month lifespan. He was taught to think that way, he even acted barbaric when he was younger as well.
@MrT3a 4 місяці тому
Some good details. I had to deal with anger management in my teen years, and these reactions really are close to what you feels/acts when confronted with the harm you caused, and you feel ashamed of yourself.
@sepulchral. 4 місяці тому
The whole neuro plasticity premises against his ability to change is a little weak. Additionally, as Viltrumites become older, they become stronger - they regenerate quicker too as seen in the show with Mark (and later in the comics).
@Joyscp999 4 місяці тому
@@erdm8153 they say they had like a year?
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@snowy68 4 місяці тому
I honestly feel like Nolan's speech to mark about how he'll outlive everything is just Nolan trying to convince himself that what he is doing is right. He loved Debbie, made connections with people and enjoy everything. But he knew what he had to do eventually at a certain point, it just sounds more like he's attempting to convince himself that it does not matter because its barely any of his lifespan and its so little that he thinks he just shouldn't care since the planet is doomed at the moment anyways.
@23Raind 4 місяці тому
He's not entirely wrong in that assessment from his own point of view, but as Darkblood shows, those who judge him after death will not see his atrocities as inconsequential just because he lives a really long time.
@snowy68 4 місяці тому
@@23Raind yeah he’s not wrong about his assessment, but he still knows he doesn’t like thinking like that and he’s saying that mostly to convince himself and mark, cause if mark agrees with him then he basically can say someone agrees with him and his way of thinking isn’t wrong.
@insertname9736 4 місяці тому
Regardless of how you interpret it, it's still a valid question. What will Mark have in 500 years? Or even less than 100?
@its_dey_mate 4 місяці тому
Yup, that entire fight wasn't against Mark, it was against himself. He wanted to convince *himself* what he was doing was still the right thing to do and he realized it wasn't.
@23Raind 4 місяці тому
@@insertname9736 his kids. It was always pretty obvious. Kids, grandkids, ect.
@user-wq2mg2su1t 4 місяці тому
Matpat really said "Friendship was the true saviour all along". An old school style of Film Theory. Love to see it..
@Aztx888_ 4 місяці тому
Viltrumites have their own healing factor aswell that lets them survive near death experiences all the time. it may not be on the immortals level but it would still in theory help their brains slowly regenerate more synapses across their long life spans.
@wyattrox11 4 місяці тому
I can’t believe we’re witnessing MatPat in an official television commercial. What a time to be alive
@jacksoncounts5402 4 місяці тому
it's a perfect commercial, because it gets those who wanna watch the show into it if they're on the edge and it's also educating the psychological aspect of the show
@popipom 4 місяці тому
No way they got sponsored by samsung ☠️
@Jameson-op1wd 4 місяці тому
This isn't even that Insane when you consider that he got into an official transformers show
@aaronmazur8056 4 місяці тому
@@Jameson-op1wdmatpat was in the transformers?
@vvast2255 4 місяці тому
he was also in the fnaf movie lol
@theoneandonlyjetstreamsam 4 місяці тому
JK Simmons really does crush it as Onmi-Man. His performance is nothing short of legendary.
@FluffytheFloof 4 місяці тому
I can't take him seriously tho. every time I watch this, all I hear is James Jonah Jamison.
@lapizite7879 4 місяці тому
@@FluffytheFloofTHINK PETER THINK
@FluffytheFloof 4 місяці тому
@@lapizite7879 MARK!! GET ME PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN!
@Splinter-ge9pf 4 місяці тому
I always hear Omni-Man talk about making lemonade
@tuckerbrown1349 4 місяці тому
There’s an edit online of the lemon rant over Omni man and it fits perfectly its wild.
@generaljive 4 місяці тому
This went waaaaay deeper into human psychology and development than I expected, and it was great.
@garrisonwhaley-sharp7676 4 місяці тому
Once again, i think you would do incredible things with a Comics Theory channel. The amount of lore and history that are apart of many comic franchises paired with the amount of artistic analysis one can do with their unique combinations of art and writing, i think its ripe for your types of theories.
@50Steaks68 3 місяці тому
The fourth theory: literature theory!
@ArthurCrane92 4 місяці тому
I think it's pretty clear that, from a thematic point of view, Mark gets his superhero name not because of his powers or winning track record (he does get beat up a lot) but rather from his human values. By holding on to his humanity and not giving in to the feelings that would make him more like a true Viltrumite. It's how he won the fight against his dad by attrition. As long as he has that, he will live up to his name.
@jc_art_ 4 місяці тому
So hes not actually (cut to title card), just his spirit is (cut to title card again)?
@DoveCalderwood 4 місяці тому
@@jc_art_ Corect!
@zack3851 4 місяці тому
@@jc_art_😂
@Evans808 4 місяці тому
The entire reason why Mark can beat the two big bads at the end of the comics is because of only his human values. Sure, him being a viltrumite helps, but its being a human with meaningful attatchments that lets him beat them
@redroman4214 4 місяці тому
He does live up to his name in the end of the series though
@Weezergutarriff 4 місяці тому
I watched this with my dad because we watched Invincible together and he was really open to the idea of brain development and empathy. Thanks to this episode he's started going to therapy again. Thanks MatPat
@JohnWelsh-oz3jz 4 місяці тому
I’m happy to hear your father retuned to therapy. There’s absolutely no shame in needing help. Good for him!
@malikwright1519 4 місяці тому
Most definitely 💯 gotta keep the mental straight for the kids and yourself
@jjstcase 4 місяці тому
I am SO happy to have read this! Happy for you and your dad! Sending love from anonymity across the internet ❤
@gamerling2547 3 місяці тому
This perfectly explains why characters like Homelander and Reverse Flash are so evil and monstrous. Homelander grew up in a lab with no empathy or healthy relationships, before being put on a leash by Vought. Reverse Flash, meanwhile, spent so much time on studying the Flash that he never gave himself a chance to experience compassion or healthy relationships (the fact that Flash also humiliated him doesn't help either).
@TanukiGaming 4 місяці тому
that scene always hits me so hard in the feels. Even when you showed it here- when Mark delivers the line. My heart.
@Edgarrat7596 4 місяці тому
Well I guess the closest example of lifespans is the way we look at rats, they live much shorter than us, so much so that even if we kept them as pets we’d eventually forget them. Omniman literally refers to his human wife as a “pet”, meaning that her death may hurt him for a while but he’d outlive the guilt, quite literally how we see animals with short lifespans, we’d definitely miss them but it would only be when we’re reminded of them
@sethreign8103 4 місяці тому
I miss all my pet rats so much 😭 It should be a crime for their lifespans to be so short 💔
@phucdisshiet6838 4 місяці тому
My grandma had like 3 kids that died as infants, noone forgot about them and their graves are cleaned every month. I get your argument but it really isn't universal truth.
@RaulDiaz-mp8ms 4 місяці тому
@@phucdisshiet6838 The difference is those were infant humans and not rats. People are going to care/remember humans more than rats.
@nainadhaliwal9625 4 місяці тому
@@phucdisshiet6838kids would have the same lifespan as the person who birthed them da f how does that relate to their theory. Omni man literally is conflicted by the fact that his son will be with him through it all cause they have the same life span
@Edgarrat7596 4 місяці тому
@@phucdisshiet6838 the loss of a child to a mother is EXPONENTIALLY more impactful than the loss of a pet, it doesn’t matter the age or time
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 4 місяці тому
14:40 The difference is one heavily related to the themes of Invincible; Humanity. Immortal has lived _alongside humanity_ for his entire lifespan. He's had wives, kids, grandkids, brothers in arms and kings and subjects. He's _lived lives_ in all the human ways, and keeps doing so. Whereas Viltrumites? They've only known Violence, War, Conquest, Might makes right, "If he was weak then he deserved to die". They've been so seperated from the human experience for so long that it's almost impossible to snap them out of it. It takes 20 years of love and humanity to make even one of them doubt themselves. Where Immortal has known all of the human experience, Viltrumites have known only war.
@anthonyortiz350 4 місяці тому
Spoiler It turned out that it was not impossible seeing how when all the remaining viltrumites got families all of them except Thag became good!
@basketballguru9879 4 місяці тому
@@anthonyortiz350True and also who knows how Viltrumites brains are set up to process emotions or other things. I mean, we have insight and know they are similar to humans but they could still be vastly different in those aspects. Like they could be easily swayed one way or another when it comes to emotions and this is why we see Omni man swayed by his son by basically one sentence and other viltrumites preferring to have families when they stay on earth for one of their first times and explains why they were ok with killing the weak, and probably family because they were swayed on viltrum to think a certain way.. Plus the first part of this theory, when he compared them to humans and their brains not being able to create the same amount of synapses to when they were babies or young children is also unknown considering Viltrumites get stronger and increase in other ways as they get older basically opposite of humans. They could create even more as they get older because of this, or even because of their advances in medicine and their abilities to cure disease to change their brain chemistry and other things as the such.. who knows their story could of gone anywhere and could of made sense and explained in these types of ways.. Sorry if some of this doesn't make sense lol I'm writing it has I'm kind of falling asleep lol
@grimmyreaper3790 4 місяці тому
Sounds like Saiyans from DBZ never learning super saiyan because none of them cared about one another
@mr_h831 4 місяці тому
20 years is like 5 months to them dude.
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 4 місяці тому
@@mr_h831 Right, that's what I'm saying. It takes what for us is a LONG time to heal these guys' mental state, but it is possible.
@_Captain_Anarchy_ 4 місяці тому
3:55 we gonna ignore the times viltrumites breeded with thraxans (bug aliens)
@Shad0w_Z 4 місяці тому
Based on the comics, because I assume the show will still follow them very closely with what we’ve seen already, the main factors are mark being from earth and his relationships. You find out that Nolan really did change from his time on earth, and all of the other viltrumites also change because of their time on earth. They can and do experience empathy, but because they were never shown it as a child, the viltrumites needed to experience it first hand to apply it
@TheDark1903 4 місяці тому
Just pointing out that if Immortal was alive at 3,000 BC it means he's 5,000 years old, not 3k as stated earlier in the video when comparing lifespans.
@Antonio-ys5zd 4 місяці тому
MatPat also aluppwd the part where Omni-Man went through the portal to chase after the Faulkans or whatever they were called and while there the perception of time moved faster compared to Earth making Omni-man older too
@Novacore9811 4 місяці тому
@@Antonio-ys5zd True but when talking about people who can outlive planets- i dont feel its necessarily an issue, plus given he wanted to give us a relatable timeframe using 3000 instead of a number magnitudes larger makes it easy. becuase going to 500 almost doubles to number and shortens his example from 1.6 years to maybe at best 11 months. thats alot less
@PitchBlackLaser 4 місяці тому
This video was full of contradictions, wrong math and illogical points… For instance according to Mattpats math Omniman would mourn his wife for about 1.6 years before he went on… or the immortal Being empathetic… Which is definitely not true at the beginning of the show… In fact there are so many mistakes in this video that he disproves himself in the same video that I have to wonder if he even watched
@AidanClutter 4 місяці тому
@@PitchBlackLaserremember, he doesn’t write all the scripts anymore
@Novacore9811 4 місяці тому
@@AidanClutter true and even if it wasn't accurate , does that matter? the channel is an education channel- its honestly more about what he tries to teach, and i think just from what he was teaching it was a good episode
@HeisenbergFam 4 місяці тому
You know Matt is a man of culture when he covers Invincible
@MrBaboom352 4 місяці тому
Leave me alone plesse i keep on telling you to stop but you dont
@paulchamberlain7631 4 місяці тому
@@______Pomni______ i cringed when i watched your vids
@RoundStep 4 місяці тому
@@paulchamberlain7631agreed
@nickmilano2516 4 місяці тому
THINK FUH NAFF THINK WHAT GOOD THEORY WILL U HAVE IN 5000 YEARS!?!?
@Tdog_Tbone 4 місяці тому
@@______Pomni______nobody caresssssssssss
@A_tank_lover 4 місяці тому
That whole empathy thing made me realise that maybe i should start to train my brain to do what's right and understand before it's to late.
@ween983 4 місяці тому
another argument against Omni man Being not empathetic is how he starts to love on the other planet he goes to. They’re wiped out by the viltrumites, he starts crying. He actually feels for those people he even has a son with another person on that planet, and I think that really shows that he hasn’t fully lost that empathy
@supremefankai5480 4 місяці тому
That final bit of hope for Omni-Man makes me feel that despite lots of timelines going bad Mark still has the choice to be good, always.
@mikhaelgribkov4117 4 місяці тому
That's the point, in the comic he is way apathetic and says that he "sometimes" things his dad was right and many times choses to be selfish, which is called out by Robot, but at the same time he shown to chose being better and be self aware to be better.
@StoneCoolds 4 місяці тому
For what I known in almost all universes he chooses to destroy humanity, only 1 or 2 he doesn't chose that path
@greenturtle5616 3 місяці тому
Mindblown. What a great video. Truly opened my eyes to new perspectives. Can’t wait for new episodes and seasons of Invincible. I’m a Health Studies Major and the idea of why people age wasn’t really taught well in lecture. You really showed me that there are things that you have to learn OUTSIDE from school. 😅
@Avianatorio 4 місяці тому
19:36 was vibing, then that hit hard
@DavisXero 4 місяці тому
I think my favorite thing about Invincible is, not only does it show how we need empathy to stay connected and not become monsters; it also shows (later in the comics) that there are people who DO NOT CARE. They can’t be reasoned with, they can’t be bargained with and they certainly shouldn’t be in positions of power. We have to be responsible and police these people ourselves, otherwise we are responsible for the damage they wreak.
@mikhaelgribkov4117 4 місяці тому
And it also shows how to be good is an active choice and not you born to be.
@user-ok2xi6vn5u 4 місяці тому
So in other words, we purge the non empathetic
@justinc5967 4 місяці тому
I didn't even consider Immortal and taking his experience as an example. Wow. Immortal is an awesome wildcard. Who, after 500 years, could still also be there. A beacon and example for Mark.
@23Raind 4 місяці тому
Spoiler: The Immortal is a bad example. He eventually becomes like omniman, but also suicidal.
@anthonyortiz350 4 місяці тому
@@23Raind ohh 😯😮 yeah I actually forgot about that incident. Spoiler Hopefully though by choosing to change the future by having robot as a brain to help well ❤️🩹 will avoid that outcome!
@thegunt3385 3 місяці тому
9:03 today's sponsor helps you get punched in the face by omni man
@Dogcool43 4 місяці тому
Evil space mustache empire 17:10 💀💀💀💀💀
@kingkooda7886 4 місяці тому
fun fact mark usually joins omni man when it comes to taking over the world because most versions of mark are narcissistic but mark prime (the one from the comic/tv) is one of if not the only mark who shows empathy and puts others first.
@ContagiousSponge 4 місяці тому
But shouldn't there be an even amount of evil and good Mark's? Last time I checked, the multiverse is infinite.
@mrjtfang2 4 місяці тому
@@ContagiousSponge Yes/no. Multiverse does not necessarily imply infinite, and considering the whatthefuck nature of it, there could be weird math rules in the backgrounds that we don't know about regardings the odds of events.
@gheo9529 4 місяці тому
@@ContagiousSpongeNo that’s not quite right. Let’s say you have an infinite amount of numbers, despite the fact it’s infinite, you’re still going to get more numbers without 4 than there are with 4. So not all infinites are equal, some are more likely to occur than others.
@satgurs 4 місяці тому
@@ContagiousSponge The probability of a mark becoming evil is far higher than of a mark becoming good. Sure, there might be infinite versions of both, but that doesn't mean the amount of them being good and evil are the same.
@spheromancer_ 4 місяці тому
@@ContagiousSponge There's an infinite amount of numbers between 1 and 2 and none of those are 3.
@Kev.NTheLich 4 місяці тому
I've recently read the invincible comics and honestly the concept of immortality quite scary, the immortal is one of the biggest examples. After year of watching his close friends and family die including his own deaths, he's become distant he didn't want to make any meaningful connections because he was scared he would lose those he loved again and go through the same thing. Hope the same doesn't happen to invincible but, you never know.
@Icarus-Tempist 4 місяці тому
You'll see at the end of the comics that thankfully Mark has plenty of family to live and be happy with at least.
@royaltygangg 4 місяці тому
@@Icarus-Tempist didn't homie say he read the comics then later say I hope the same doesn't happen to mark something isn't adding up 🤔
@Kev.NTheLich 4 місяці тому
@@royaltygangg fr I'm inconsistent my guy
@royaltygangg 4 місяці тому
@@Kev.NTheLich 😂 fair enough 🙌
@Theology.101 4 місяці тому
Yeah that future timeline with Evil Dictator Immortal is so fascinating - and then Mark solves it by giving him an immortal RexRobot....'s brain in a jar.
@ScorpionStrike7 Місяць тому
Love the editing
@tntmaxoderso2605 4 місяці тому
What Omni Man says about humans being pets for him actually makes a lot of sense if you think about it: We love them and may even consider them part of our family, but we are a totally different species and outlife them. Just think about how squirrels must see humans: A tree is everything they need to live a happy life, what maniac would destroy forests just to build houses?! They cant understand our goals because they think much simpler and dont see the world as we see it. So maybe for Omni Man we are the dumb squirrels, dumb and cute, but unable to see the bigger picture. This does not mean he is right, but his thoughts all make sense from his pov
@osmosisjones4912 4 місяці тому
What about individuals every minute every insect 🦋
@osmosisjones4912 4 місяці тому
People relate pers even insects. And what about living in our memories. You could see yourself as a record soul preserver
@peeeeeeeeeeaf 4 місяці тому
what if its a tortoise though they live longer than humans
@OGxhatake 4 місяці тому
@@peeeeeeeeeeaf they still dont understand, all they see for hundreds of years is people living, and they don't care about the same things we do, To the tortoise were just temperary things that can either help them or harm them
@phelps6205 4 місяці тому
Maybe we should stop doing things that destroy the world of life forms with simpler minds than us then? If we want superior beings to come down to our level, we shouldn't expect lower beings to evolve to ours.
@gOblin_333 4 місяці тому
Whoever did the editing for this episode did a lot of work keeping the episode content-friendly.
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@drowarcher4208 4 місяці тому
@@Red-dt84Bro you don't have any.
@lynndenamandaburris949 4 місяці тому
14:16 the immortal sounds like a guy from Fnaf, who always come back
@97csani 3 місяці тому
you just made me rewatch this show, it's awesome
@Brown95P 4 місяці тому
@18:39 As a 28 year-old man, I can already relate to this main takeaway; I vividly remember watching a random kid on the street being amazed at the world and the things I myself was once amazed with, and how that scene felt particularly refreshing for me in the moment.
@diablo.the.cheater 4 місяці тому
Hey, fellow 28 yeard-old man, I'm still amazed at the world, you may need to travel more.
@jobhunter5090 4 місяці тому
Right there with you, but I can say that while it won't just passively happen anymore with good planning and preparation you can find yourself just as amazed.
@Brown95P 4 місяці тому
@@diablo.the.cheater Maybe l do need to travel more indeed; alas, if only 80% of the world wasn't either too hot or too hostile for me right now...
@MrStealYoBish7 4 місяці тому
Tf did this have anything to do wit what matpat was talm bout u not Omni-Man so what tf are you relating to
@Brown95P 4 місяці тому
@@MrStealYoBish7 @18:39 If you actually saw the whole video, you would've noticed this section, which l believe is the main takeaway of it all.
@petergohan 4 місяці тому
This is actually a good point that gets explored later in the comics, Mark being together with Eve, that is basically also immortal, and so helps him keep his humanity always there by his side and prevents him from becoming tyrant like others. The same happens with the Immortal, at some point he begins to lose it ruling the planet, and Mark gets an idea to help him keep his sanity as the millenia go by.
@leonardopantano5220 4 місяці тому
Yeah, he was really Lucky, because he can be with the love of his life untill the end of his life
@TheDriftinEagle 4 місяці тому
@@leonardopantano5220 I also realised that, Eve (assuming Marks death is stressful enough) could also extend Marks life to near immortality, so in theory, they, and their family, would live forever, or as long as Eve can do it.
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@ltspyder2177 4 місяці тому
"Explored" might be overstating it. The revelation that Eve is actually essentially immortal DOES come exactly 12 pages from the end of the series so....I dunno. lol
@discoline10191 4 місяці тому
excellent work bro thank you very much
@existskk99 3 місяці тому
I’m really excited to be watching this series as it comes out but I’m also pained that I can’t binge it D:
@Gabe_Cross 4 місяці тому
I could tell from episode one that Invincible season 2 was going to be great. It even seems like they have a great villain origin story. Angstrom Levy seemed like a truly good person that wanted to help not only his world but many, many, many others. And when you think about it, he saved Mark's life when he took the helmet off. If he did not, the Maulers would have beat him to death. Even when he was in the middle of accomplishing his ultimate goal, Angstrom cared about someone trying to stop him enough to try and save that person's life. Now that he has the memories of all his alternate selves, combined with the pain and disfigurement he is suffering through, he now is consumed with hatred for Mark. Keep in mind that in most dimensions, Mark actually ends up siding with his father to take over the Earth, so Angstrom has a lot of memories of Mark doing terrible things.
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@shilpachilakapati6368 4 місяці тому
God damm you typed so mush respect
@griefwizard 4 місяці тому
Prolly not beat him to death, but instead force him to not hold back which might change the course of events in the story
@ladygeneveve3805 4 місяці тому
Ok but like hes also an idiot, why didnt he just drop portals beneath the maulers to teleport them away, he teleported them in with the helmet on, why not teleport them out?
@somethingcatchy4795 4 місяці тому
@@ladygeneveve3805literally such a huge plot hole, although you could argue that he was under a lot of stress
@ovenaroundhead2881 4 місяці тому
Matpat describing(or rather admitting) himself as a PNGtuber is something i never knew i’d wanna hear
@TuxedoDogss 4 місяці тому
he did? what the time?
@cat_in_a_fish_bowl 4 місяці тому
After the Samsung part
@Samandjam555 4 місяці тому
@@TuxedoDogsshe said “now time to be a pngtuber again”
@adrrrianpfort8008 4 місяці тому
15:31 yeah about that mattpat the immortal went insane and mad after a billion years
@user-Nerd72ekd82kw 3 місяці тому
Who wouldn't?
@RadTroppy 3 місяці тому
14:07 I ALWAYS COME BACK
@BlackDragon41sbm 4 місяці тому
This is a really nice theory considering in Season 2 Nolan struggles for a moment on why he cares so much for a species that lives for only a year after seeing a bunch of them dead. It's brief because him and Mark get attacked but he really had a hard time trying to come to terms with it. Empathy.
@EasyEighty-Eight 4 місяці тому
Empathy being something that is only capable of being learned at a young age makes Nolan saying "I'm not supposed to feel this way," all the more tragic.
@willimorris1083 2 місяці тому
Thank you for also telling me about how my brain works in such a delightful fashion. This is fascinating.
@kai4391 4 місяці тому
By far the most interesting Film theory video I've watched in a while!
@RinrinFran 4 місяці тому
This running gag of them cutting to the title very time they say the name of the show never gets old.
@Kipcraft9 4 місяці тому
Such a great show, so glad you’re covering it finally!
@Maze383 4 місяці тому
@______Pomni______Wrong
@user-nd5zv2rn7i 4 місяці тому
its a terrible, corny, unoriginal show built for middle schoolers or dumb highschoolers imo
@LuisSierra42 4 місяці тому
@@user-nd5zv2rn7i ok
@Kipcraft9 4 місяці тому
@@user-nd5zv2rn7i you clearly haven’t seen it
@ChumpySprite 4 місяці тому
Fr
@GarD3v 4 місяці тому
I already got that TV you talked about in the sponsor, what a coincidence 😂
@richiebeard3 4 місяці тому
6:17 i love the smash mouth reference lol
@M-Playz-Solo 4 місяці тому
Sorry, not sorry, Matpat, but I'm not buying a $6,000 TV
@user-fv9kz4tj1y 25 днів тому
Yeah I get that
@pvsb2144 4 місяці тому
I have been waiting for a long time for Matpat to make a video about Invincible. It's my favorite animated show on television, and seeing one of my favorite youtuber making a theory about this show is truly incredible!
@osmosisjones4912 4 місяці тому
Bugs seems like conscious being and I respect their lives as living creatures for the time they have and. That actually was brought up in the show. With those bug Aliens who only live a year
@marcellokastro1947 21 день тому
Another cool thing to notice about the timespan of a viltrumight and a human is the fact that Omni-man has wated decade's to finally inact his plans. Whitch might seem like alot and probably raise suspension to the empire yet that 20-40 years is really just 1 to them lol 🤷🏻♀️
@Blaze_Bro 11 днів тому
Just finished watching Invincible, now I can finally watch the film theory
@TTIOttio 4 місяці тому
Dr Who also does a great job of tackling this idea of immortality, with Jack/Boe, Lady Me, Clara, the Master and the Doctor himself all offering different views on the same issue.
@RogueAndroid 4 місяці тому
You missed Melody Pond/River Song
@TTIOttio 4 місяці тому
@@RogueAndroid oh, good point! And not immortal but Rory when he was a centurion too!
@ZomBro_BOSS 4 місяці тому
We actually see Mark doing pretty well for himself after 500 years in the comics
@spooderderg4077 4 місяці тому
What will you have after 500 years? Season 1: You. I'll still have you. Series finale: Everything. Everything except for you.
@VidelxSpopovich 4 місяці тому
My favorite bit is when Eve dies and just reincarnates lol
@Antisocial_Real 22 дні тому
I’m so glad there are people that have read the comics other than me, I feel like they are massively unappreciated even though the story is great and everything about them is amazing!
@Omni-Man Місяць тому
13:31 I like this Matpat guy
@MrT3a 4 місяці тому
As a father struggling with my emotions, torn between expectations and feelings, the pain expressed by Nolan when he leaves Earth, choosing his son over the empire, is something that always brings tears to me. This scene is powerful, and I hope I'll have the courage to always choose my family first.
@NothinIntrestin 4 місяці тому
This was hands down one of my favorite film theory videos. It not only had one of my favorite shows (CANT WAIT for you to do The Boys too!), but learning about how brains work like this was mind blowing (no pun intended). Great job Matt Pat and everyone else in the theory team!
@dafilmqueen556 4 місяці тому
And his theory here has a happy ending, or at least a hopeful one. Our boy Mark is bringing family together..
@ehsaasmittal3429 4 місяці тому
New Film Theory Video Idea: You should look at the "The Evillious Chronicles." Interconnected songs, books and manga that make a story/universe. It would be really cool if you cover this up. Honestly surprised that you have not covered this yet lol. This will be worth your time.
@Daniel_taichouYT 4 місяці тому
0:20 love what you did there😂
@VerbiGereando 4 місяці тому
I just hope they give it a similar ending as in the comics, completely uplifting
@sierrajohnson717 4 місяці тому
Dude there’s so much death in there idek what you mean
@jaegerwhatifs4679 4 місяці тому
@@sierrajohnson717 The ending is amazing. It's complete but positive. No need for it to be edgy.
@stevenwallace773 4 місяці тому
But on topic, I actually experience (kinda) the Omni Man 2 years span. I work at a university, and my student workers who I see every day generally disappear forever after 1-3 years. The first 2 students that I "lost" to graduation I literally cried. I saw myself in them, tried to give life advice and such. Now several years later I can't even be bothered to learn most of their names or even tell them apart.
@LousoMiso27 4 місяці тому
Literally just finished the show yesterday, got recommended it. I don’t regret, I’m hooked on the show now
@FatybaconRoblox 4 місяці тому
Nice video got a new sub :)
@laurawood438 4 місяці тому
I think Mattpat can turn a 8 second clip into a full 8 hour movie.
@ReeseHosgood 4 місяці тому
He did a not as extreme version of that with one of the FNAF movie trailers.
@randomguy4531 4 місяці тому
I appreciated Matpat's analysis of All Star describing the dread of growing older.
@saphcal 4 місяці тому
"the years start comin' and they don't stop comin'"
@dafilmqueen556 4 місяці тому
"fed to the rules and I hit the ground running. Didn't make sense not to live for fun. Your brain gets smart but your head gets dumb"
@crownedxyrus1598 4 місяці тому
"So much to do, so much to see, so what wrong with taking the backstreet?"
@dafilmqueen556 4 місяці тому
"You'll never if you don't go. You'll never shine if you don't glow"
@Diamond_Dominik 4 місяці тому
"Hey now, you're an all-star, get your game on, go play"
@alanyoung159 4 місяці тому
Great analysis!
@matthewwriter9539 4 місяці тому
6:55 "I'm on vacation." 😎
@JosephKFundi 4 місяці тому
This is already one of my favourite Film Theory videos. The combination of science and comic book nerdiness is why I subscribed in the first place. Great job matpat. 👏🏾👏🏾
@goatsfluffy8254 4 місяці тому
Keep in mind, the 1.6 year estimate is based on a 3000 age estimate. If Nolan was any less then 3000 years, he’d probably not have saiid “thousands of years”. Three thousand is pretty much the bare minimum age. He’s probably much more than 3000 years old, and that 1.6 is likely to be a lot lower.
@anna.owo. 4 місяці тому
he is over 2.000 according to Wiki, nothing implies he is over 3.000. he was born after the civil war or he was a baby back then.
@eduparada970 4 місяці тому
@anna.owo. Im pretty sure he is older than 3000, how? Because we know how Invincible looks after 500 years, he looks like a man on his twenties, why is this important? Because we know Viltrumites age slower the older they get, which means that in order to look like Omni Man, Mark will have to live much more
@isaiahmorton8386 4 місяці тому
The 1.6 estimate was also based on 60 years together, which they haven't been together nearly that long at that point in the series so the actual percentage would be way less
@its_dey_mate 4 місяці тому
@@eduparada970I am not really sure about how Mark looks. Cory's style is very different from Ottley's and it's difficult to make comparisons. I honestly see it as more of "just passing 30", but you never know.
@nyehu09 4 місяці тому
This show made me cry. And this theory again made me cry. Dang.
@TheZpatric05 12 днів тому
The whole rant about neurones really helped me because I have a test on it tomorrow 😂😂
@jonatanmonsalve11 4 місяці тому
I love it when people replicate/parody the almost-meme title of Invincible when they are talking about it. That whole thing of cutting off mid-sentence to show the word or any title at hand always gets me
@i_like_nerf_memes 4 місяці тому
Another reason why Mark is good is because he was given a talk by his mom, Debbie that humble him and made him less narcissistic which could be one of the only reasons why our Mark is good
@Trentjd2005 12 днів тому
What will you have in 500 years? The immortal probably. -some guy on shorts
@extreme989 12 годин тому
This video aged like fine wine because in Season 2 Nolan is dealing with the feelings of grief and empathy for the first time and he verbatim says "Why do I feel like this? Why do I care about them" because it is truly his first time experiencing these emotions
@sabrinakod 4 місяці тому
Its taboo, but THANK YOU for finally bringing up the issue of Nolan throwing away his whole life for a mere 1-2% fraction of his lifetime. Though its not everything, from a logical perspective its not reasonable for him to throw away his viltrum life for that.
@PileOfStones 4 місяці тому
Outside of neurology, I think socially speaking Nolan's context means he didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't right, but with all information avaliable in both the show and comics at the time of his fight with Mark he was doing the only sensible thing.
@Kyle_Gaming09 4 місяці тому
Wow Matpat, respect for referencing the late Smashmouth, RIP
@rushylvania.northern 3 місяці тому
8:20 unfortunate that this is the higher end for most relationships
@danielrolon56 4 місяці тому
That smash mouth refrence was beautiful, MatPat.
@Charlotte__Single__again 4 місяці тому
Wow the creators of this show really did their research bravo 👏 it’s like they knew Mat Pat would get to them eventually
@mr.punisher5100 4 місяці тому
It might be a coincidence though
@Red-dt84 4 місяці тому
My content is better.
@Jamseth_Ingramious 4 місяці тому
I doubt the creators care in the slightest or even know about him. Besides, the comics started publication nearly a decade before Game Theory ever started. Also the video is extremely simple and mostly common knowledge. Some of the language/references, combined with what I said earlier, would make me think this is targeting children under the age of 10 were it not for the actual series being discussed.
@DemBigOlEyes 4 місяці тому
@@Jamseth_Ingramious Wow, just wow. Video was just talking about empathy and being kind, clearly you missed this lesson growing up.
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