SixteenTheAnimator Well, you’re not wrong.

Hahahahah

Brings back suppressed memories of Defenders on Netflix

and the empty hand are the haters

ayee

We need a podcast at Spotify!!

This explains nothing to me. It just confuses me more. 🤣🤣🤣

And now it's even more complicated

@@fica1137 DC (and comics in general) is just so convoluted that I pretty much have to make up my own canon. I don’t have a choice.

Jim Kol and Jack Kirby

Actualy TOAA IS the writer. This idea of the writer being god also means that all the characters and world are puppets to its will and that there are multiple gods not just one because any human being can create a story.(quality is a different matter)

@@Raximus3000, no because marvel confirmed the Presence is the counterpart of the one above all.

@@jimkol8799 That does not mean they are the same thing, just the greatest existance in their Omniverse, plus i don't think it actualy bounds them legaly on anything. See protolith, (wink wink) lol.

Jim Kol pretty sure the over monitor is meant to be the writer/ a DC executive

"It says "bibble" " "YOU DARE DEFY THE WORD OF THE GREAT JIMMY"

Jimmy Olsen?

@@Despair505 Your pal. Our pal. Michael Cassidy at the end of a machine gun.

Funny,my name is Jimmy

I have a mate like him as well, he's also Omnipotent and his name is Bobby.

Lovecraft still holds the title of the most broken verse

SIR SUN MAN Actually I’d say that would be the SCP multiverse. In my opinion.

SIR SUN MAN kami tenchi I believe is the name, he kinda poops on all of them seeing as he does what Yog does but is awake

@@kingkobra4910 neither dose lovecraft and I'm not gonna lie kenchi is kinda pathetic compared to even the weakest outer god

@@marxiplier4322 eh 3814 is powerful but things like yogsothoth kinda decimate

Wtf you talking about

@@Default-gf4zf i don't remember this was one year ago

@@kareem5965 i got what you meant. I dunno whats up with that guy

@@Default-gf4zf nice name

Didn't Gabriel kill him,

Only if you like the Inhumans.

Aaron, good one.

U must be Lucifer.

Aaron Nice

Macaroni Pepperoni technically your just another god or deity of marvels multiverse (hell you could be even a watcher) but might top the confirms gods in marvels cannon( cause you read and buy the books meaning keeping the world alive, so if you don’t read and buy the books that universe dies or cancels)... but you the reader are not its creators that’s Stan lee and jack kirby those guys over top god in marvels universes and you.

@@shirouradman6550 I'm sorry but your comment is a little to smart for youtube piz make a bad joke to put thing back in oder.

I’ll make a joke: Cant beat goku though

@@NehauonElAprendizDelMundo COUNTERARGUMENT: GOKU IS UNIVERSAL+ IN DRAGON BALL SUPER... But can they beat Xeno Goku though? Maybe not a Multiversal being but the being mentioned in this video CAN.

The Source is an aspect of the Presence.

The Presence needs a space to be present so the Source is higher, the Source encapsulates everything that could be created even the real world with writers (Fulcrum)

@@geert574 The Source and The Presence are one and the same.

In Mike Careys 2000 Lucifer run, Lucifer refers to his father as the Triune Godhead, meaning the trinity, The source, the Presence and the void are all one in the same being. Lucifer succeeded and escaped his fathers plan into the void, where he was offered a chance of symbiosis with God where their essence would join and split again leaving 2 completely new beings, my theory is that, The presence keeps making Multiverse's and waits for someone to escape into the void, where he absorbs all their knowledge and experience, and then tasks them with creating their own multiverses, and so the cycle continues. Maybe Perpetua is just another one of The presence's creations that escaped into the void, and decided to turn and started trying to attack the presence, where as Lucifer rejected the offer and decided to fly through the void to experience other creations, other multiverses, to experience everything and nothing The source seems to be endless creativity, endless power, which pretty much sums up God, who every other god within the multiverse recognises as being someone you don't want to have to deal with

@@MasterIceyy bro, that’s an insane theory and I’m honestly digging it. Maybe that’s why people say he isn’t completely omnipotent and with this theory that does make sense. He’s still more powerful than anyone else but his power is still reach new limits so it isn’t capped. I dig that theory. I don’t know if it’s the case but I like it

Agreed

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@@aanyamallick7747 .

@@estrellaazul9238 .

The 1 on of the resions why dc comic is the best comic ever ... they comic needs 1 like batman to understand it .. dc comic not simple like marvel... and always keep the reader's interesting

Wild

@@shirouradman6550 🤔

Sure, when he gets around to putting out a video!

his part 2 darkseid video was soooo good!!! it was worth the wait

You should check out webcamparrot

His voice sounds like the imaginary axis

Yeah, the hand is positioned in a way similar to when someone is holding an object to examine it, as opposed to merely gripping it.

Lol those beings like antimonitor ,there presence so on that just have big egos they didn't create the universe or multiverse they just appeared ask the speed force they just have big egos 😂😂😂 speed force is the true ruler

Also, is the hand giving, taking, or holding?

Maybe hes that member of the endless, destiny.

i work in cone multiverses and timelines

Matt Draper, I'm a huge fan of your's.

I think the one who creates the story gives it life, whether it is known by others is a different thing all together.

@@shirouradman6550 Now that put it like this, this phrase "I howl through many mouths. I break with many hands. They are themselves, but they are also me. I have all the power you give me and my weapon is hate." It can be attributed to sjws but it is from TOBA the true devil of the Marvel omniverse... What is odd is that i don't think the author even relised what he was doing..... Irony or smth else?

So basically, Death of the Endless is the real strongest because eventually all us readers will die and she will be the last one left.

@@animetheory2572 Actually it would be the 3 eldest Endless. Dream gives the writer/reader ideas and inspirations, Death would close the doors when they die, but it was all Destined to to happen right?

Kenan Perez well both Dream and Destiny are dead for good at the end of the DC universe. I mean in the Book of Magic Issue 4 we even see Death take Destiny. Destiny and Dream are strong obviously but only Death has no actual end

in dc even writers die read sandman thier is issue called death of the author.

Umineko and dies urae characters?

@@anutheamaranth7433 still nothing against an actual writer, in fact the most powerful being of unimeko featherine is still stated to be bellow the actual writer of the story

@@carso1500 the creator is the writer or god.

@@user-ww9ww1pp2u Reminds me of SCP-3812, the anomaly that transcended its own writer. SCP-3812 is at least Outerversal.

Maybe that can explain the References like Bats mentioning Sailor Mars.

@@lewisaino I'm guessing this officially put DC's cosmology MUUUCCCCHH higher than Sailor Moon.

Eh it's more so that those two are a part of 1 true god the over soul as it's been called by the specter multiple times It should be composed of the source, the divine presence and the overvoid

Tripp Bond Perpetua is the most feared one of all creation, should this alone put her above Lucifer, the Presence? And then there is Pralaya, he is the most powerful imo, even the consciousness of god himself emerges from her and he will eventually fall to her..... DC supreme being was stated to be the Presence

@@shirouradman6550 eh not the writer Due to the fact that in the animal man the writer was shown to be a separate and superior being to overvoid

The Source gets overwhelmed by Darkseid

Shirou Radman No I’m not joking, Darkseid’s and Orion’s fights were threatening and corrupting the entire source. And Darkseid has incapacitated a being who is both the source and the anti life (infinity man), and Darkseid has casually created Stayne in the palm of his hands, and Stayne is relative in power to Takion, who is one with the Source

The Source is an aspect of the Presence.

@@amortality999 I always saw it the other way around; the Presence is how the Source manifests as an intractable being.

@@redjirachi1 That is not the case. The Source is an aspect of the Presence. There was only the Presence, then he created "The Source" which was responsible for creating everything. Technically, the Source IS the Presence. There is a twist, however. The Source isn't an actual being. It's just the Presence's almighty energy. Heck, even the Overvoid (the white void surrounding absolutely everything) is an aspect of the Presence. J.M. DeMatteis even confirmed this not long ago! However, it is a separate being from the Presence. But nevertheless, only second to the Presence/Source.

Yes she's the Demiurge. The servant worker of The Source/The Presence.

This is a lot like Gnostic Christianity where creator of this Universe is evil while real God is father of Jesus who sent him to rescue souls trapped in this physical World. The presence and source is also a lot like God and the holy Spirit

It's easy! All you have to do is read. I've really only been reading comics for a few years, I just consumed a LOT of them.

It's like Marvel and SCP or even Cthulhu Mythos... Umineko is just about there.

@@holymolyitsashinyeternatus hang on, so does DC have strong characters like one above all? And who are they?

@Order Power well author and writer are same thing right? But author was killed in one of sandman issues and Mr mxy hold the power to unimagine the work of written.

@Langdon Alger no writers said void is part of presence turn video 7:16 lol and to morison presence was us. When thought robot streched his hand he can feel a "Presence" that was us for grant presence was metaphysical. Also Mr mxy can compete with writers and destroy even writers read New JLA issue 19 who is equal to trigon. And source was ignored by lucifer as something unimportant.

@Langdon Alger wtf is wrong with you acting like 12 year old who is bashing his keyboard because he can't understand a simple comment. 1- u never said void is part of presence it's writer said it in video 7:16 2- lucifer ignoring source and make it seem unimportant was a line from lucifer series. It shows source and presence can't be same far from it. 3 - Mr mxy did that I even tell you check the new JLA issue 19 superman in 6th dimension where that thing happen. 4- fourth read comics yourself don't look UKposts blindly and get brainwashed by other without your mind.

@Langdon Algeroh I see a dumb kid who can't deal with UKposts comments and abbreviation lol and then get angry because he was put in his place then when he had no way to back his argument he come up with grammatical mistake on a UKposts comment which he understood perfectly. Typical ignorant #check Typical dumbo #check Typical 12year old agn #check

judging by this video.... then bugs bunny and donald duck is the most powerful character in all of fiction. they only not break the 4th wall, by speaking to its creator (cartoon artist) but also able to manipulate and deny its creator by directly slapping the hand of the creator and stealing their pencil to re-draw themselves. it did happen in looney tunes. ps: sorry for the spam. i just want people to know of this information.

Readers: you shitty wimps picked the wrong DC fan. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Azathoth: Hold my eldritch beer.

Empty Hand from Multiversity: "All just pieces on the gameboard. I am the hand that plays them all."

Death will reaper all 😂😂😂😂😂😂

SCP 3812: If it's not fiction, it WILL be to me!

Shirou Radman ...did the mean ol’ feminists hurt your fee-fees?

Shirou Radman Yeah, the “feminists” hurt your fee-fees.

​@@shirouradman6550 "I only support civil rights but only up to where we happen to be right now because society has told me those were ok" will be a dumb opinion in the future. Even MLK got letters asking him "can you not do this right now? Do you really have to be so combative", etc. 60s Stan Lee was also criticized for including the troubles of blacks in his comics.

Marvel isn't better.

Ukaran personally im a dc guy but I think the comics are equally cause it would be a personal choice but the marvel movies are good but dc got better shows and had banger games

#1851

My current discord is darth revan the counqueror #1851

So the Cross Overs are Canon ? Also Fan Fiction?

No I love DC I don't like Marvel

I like them both 😇

@Ofel Oktaf Purbayasa auto correction

I prefer Marvel over DC, but I like both, also, you do you

@@restorethesynderverse8530 Dont trigger the Marvel fanboys

Yes. The first world is related to the old gods. Essentially it was a planet called Godworld whose lifeforms evolved over billions of years to attain "godhood" and they became the old gods and the planet the went on to become the second world. They went through a golden age period of scientific and cultural advancement but eventually fell into war. The god of mischief known as Lokee, son of Wotan, became the god of evil and the war escalated to the point where the planet was destroyed by ragnarok. The explosion sent a godwave across the universe that had the potential to give other planets the ability to create gods of their own. The godwave reached Earth and created the third world (this is the different earth religions through history). Eventually the god wave created New genisis and Apokalypse (this is where the New gods such as High father and Darkseid are from). This was the beginning of the fourth world. The lifeforms on this planet evolved to eventually attain godhood and had powers that mirrored the powers of the old gods but were split on moral alignment. New genisis were the gods of good and Apokalypse were the gods of evil. New genisis and Apokalypse would go on to follow in the footsteps of the old gods and wage constant war against each other.

@@jordanwood3150 so like a monarchy of gods, and also is that a typo or is apocalypse spelled with a k because if it is then that is just silly

@@ashwen337 quick Google search tells me it's Apokolips

and that is even more sillier then changing the c to a k

@@ashwen337 It's 100% for copyright.

I knew I recognized that god-awful "dramatic" reading from somewhere! Came to the comments looking for confirmation. Thanks for the help!

@@greenguy369 lol.

I guess that Sandman (and Vertigo comics as a whole) were also supposed to just stay separate from the dc universe before the merge anyway so The Endless weren't created, they just were.

@Famous guy for being unknown By this video's logic, that the strongest in DC is the writers, authors, and readers then Death is still the strongest because Death will still claim us real life readers and as such when all the readers are dead then all that is left is Death of the Endless.

. He is above Dream. The gap between Dream and Death is massive. Lucifer also stated that meeting Death is an inevitability, and his attempts to intimidate Death failed miserably in their encounter. Death has taken numerous Dreams throughout the series, has taken Destiny, took Elaine, you know only the replacement for the creator who would fodderize Lucifer, Death took everyone in DC eventually. Lucifer isn't above death hell one of his brothers ends up dying in the comics and I seriously doubt Lucifer is that far ahead and again going back to his own statement that everyone meets Death sooner or later including him.

@Famous guy for being unknown except Death. Seeing as Death can't claim itself and also the canon. So I don't see your point.

@Famous guy for being unknown She has NEVER stated that she would kill herself I don't know where you got that faulty info from. Have you even seen the issue from Book of Magic or even the Death Art Book where they show her at the end of time? Nowhere does it say in any source that she would kill herself, don't make up facts.

Sorry, but Perpetua the sixth dimension Hand Super Celestial is far more powerful nigh-omnipotent than even "Darkseid/Darkseid true form" and Trigon"... Far more powerful and dangerous dreadful than Manhattan, Mr Mxyzptlx, Trigon, Darkseid, the Endless, and etc. Rivaled in the term of power level by Lucifer Morningstar, Archangel Michael, Great Darkness/Great Evil Beast. Lower only to The Presence/The Source/The Writer, the Judges of the Source + Cosmic Raptor thingy the envoy of The Source, and the other Hands Super Celestials combined all their powers together. I think the one who have only one person in all the universes in the Multiverse this time are Perpetua its creator itself lol, maybe that idea of one singular darkseid are no longer used (Well, maybe not, cuz all the high dimensional beings in the Sphere of the Gods the higher dimensions than the lower-dimensional material multiverse are said to have the *"Multiversal Singularity/Singularities,"* but in other works i see them in many different places, it's so self-contradictory info)... He and Trigon maybe the representations of evil, a living idea of lawful evil tyranny and the literal manifestation of all evil and hate (chaotic evil), but Perpetua IS A SEEMINGLY FUCKING FREAKING SOURCE OF ALL EVIL AND CORRUPTION AND SUFFERING AND ALL COSMIC CRISES EVENTS ALL EVIL CRISIS ENERGY POWERS HERSELF because she secretly subtly manipulating and corrupting everyone and everything behind all of them, making the Doom infiltrate in everything and all existence... Who the fuck want to face with the evil Great Mother God/Goddess Creator of the entire DC Multiverse, the Mother of "the World Forger Alpheus" and "the Monitor/Over-Monitor Mar Novu" (in this case, not the "Overvoid") and "the Anti-Monitor Mobius" (it's maybe already retcon, Mandrakk isn't oldest monitor anymore, Perpetua is the one who created the whole original DC Multiverse incarnation before Korna tempering it and Pre-Crisis, Perpetua created her three sons children to be "the first inhabitants first oldest beings in the DC multiverse" to oversee it, and when they're "killed", they aren't truly perpetually dead, they're immortal and have resurrection, they're reform in the Sixth Dimension the highest plane of existence...), and also being the most feared and dreadful Super Celestial Godlike Being in the Omniverse (omniversal multiversal nigh-omnipotent nearly infinite powerful dreaded dangerous Creator and threat)?... Even Darkseid the New God of Evil Tyranny or Trigon the Demon King God of Hell can't challenge her simply..... Just be free from the Source Wall she able to disappearing the New Genesis and Apokolips in the sphere of the Gods easily. Since her Whispers (and dark evil influence greater larger telepathically mentally psychologically spiritually psychic push manipulations means) influenced and secretly manipulated behind the coming of the Many major DC storylines behind almost everything bad wrong in the DC Comics Multiverse and almost all Villains such as firstly her own son Mobius aka The Anti-Monitor, "Parallax" who possessed "Hal Jordan", "Alexander Luthor Jr" and "Superboy-Prime", Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and her last puppet pawn Barbatos during since the first Cosmic Crisis "the Crisis on Infinite Earths", "Zero Hour/Crisis on (in) Time", the second one "Infinite Crisis", the third one "Final Crisis", and the former latest "Dark Nights Metal" crisis event many of these have reshaped the multiverse and look on DC on a very major scale over many years, during her imprisonment from inside The Source Wall. With this she can be considered one of the greatest biggest greater scope bigger bad boss villains and the most powerful greatest vilest evil villain of the entire DC Comics Universe or Multiverse/Omniverse, the very technically first supervillain mastermind master manipulator of the DC History from since the very first beginning start before everything itself... [Being The Man Behind the Man/The Woman Behind The Man/The True Hidden Higher Authority Mastermind Master Manipulator/The Mastermind/The Ultimate Deceiver-Liar/The Corruptor-Corrupter: To avoid dying, due to "Krona's actions" resulting in the Multiverse splintering off into an infinite number of universes, Perpetua began to whisper (subtly sophisticated indirectly secretly telepathically psychically mentally psychologically spiritually emotionally push, whisper, motivate, inspire, provoke, activate, incite, instigate, manipulate, orchestrate, dictate, influence, control) to her son Mobius the Anti-Monitor Destroyer God, poisoning his mind and sending him on a rampage to destroy the Multiverse so she could free herself. When the crisis had caused a crack in the Source Wall to develop, it allowed Perpetua to assert more influence and manipulate/orchestrate (manipulating) on the minds of others almost all the popular multiversal cosmic-scale big supervillains, such as Alexander Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Parallax, Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and Barbatos and even the Batman Who Laughs, making her behind and full responsible for the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, Zero Hour/Crisis On Time, Final Crisis and Dark Knights: Metal, behind and responsible for all the Cosmic Crises that ever existed, behind and responsible for all suffering, almost all evil and everything wrong in the entire DC Multiverse since the beginning of everything and since the first Crisis.] To summarize. Well when the true mastermind Greater Scope Villain Bigger Bad and pure evil oldest villain Creator Goddess behind everything since the first cosmic crisis event show up revealed herself, it's inevitably surely normally that all the former Big Bad villains will reduce to the mini bosses in the final battle that so sad for some DC fans...

Just a multiverse. Many marvel writers confuse the two words.

@@real_nosferatu I see, thanks.

Aizette Yes... I’m the most powerful entity of all of DC, Pokémon, and even the omni verse, I have more powerful entity. Perpetua is only power giving me strength in this fusion. Like the El Shadoll Construct or My mother fusion with nihilego. Perpetua is my nihilego and my string are on her, She has no influence from me because I’m the master and stronger than her, Also this fusion combination. I’m now the Daughter of Multiverses / Aether Lillie

You are cringe

Sorry, but Perpetua the sixth dimension Hand Super Celestial is far more powerful nigh-omnipotent than even "Darkseid/Darkseid true form" and Trigon"... Far more powerful and dangerous dreadful than Manhattan, Mr Mxyzptlx, Trigon, Darkseid, the Endless, and etc. Rivaled in the term of power level by Lucifer Morningstar, Archangel Michael, Great Darkness/Great Evil Beast. Lower only to The Presence/The Source/The Writer, the Judges of the Source + Cosmic Raptor thingy the envoy of The Source, and the other Hands Super Celestials combined all their powers together. I think the one who have only one person in all the universes in the Multiverse this time are Perpetua its creator itself lol, maybe that idea of one singular darkseid are no longer used (Well, maybe not, cuz all the high dimensional beings in the Sphere of the Gods the higher dimensions than the lower-dimensional material multiverse are said to have the *"Multiversal Singularity/Singularities,"* but in other works i see them in many different places, it's so self-contradictory info)... He and Trigon maybe the representations of evil, a living idea of lawful evil tyranny and the literal manifestation of all evil and hate (chaotic evil), but Perpetua IS A SEEMINGLY FUCKING FREAKING SOURCE OF ALL EVIL AND CORRUPTION AND SUFFERING AND ALL COSMIC CRISES EVENTS ALL EVIL CRISIS ENERGY POWERS HERSELF because she secretly subtly manipulating and corrupting everyone and everything behind all of them, making the Doom infiltrate in everything and all existence... Who the fuck want to face with the evil Great Mother God/Goddess Creator of the entire DC Multiverse, the Mother of "the World Forger Alpheus" and "the Monitor/Over-Monitor Mar Novu" (in this case, not the "Overvoid") and "the Anti-Monitor Mobius" (it's maybe already retcon, Mandrakk isn't oldest monitor anymore, Perpetua is the one who created the whole original DC Multiverse incarnation before Korna tempering it and Pre-Crisis, Perpetua created her three sons children to be "the first inhabitants first oldest beings in the DC multiverse" to oversee it, and when they're "killed", they aren't truly perpetually dead, they're immortal and have resurrection, they're reform in the Sixth Dimension the highest plane of existence...), and also being the most feared and dreadful Super Celestial Godlike Being in the Omniverse (omniversal multiversal nigh-omnipotent nearly infinite powerful dreaded dangerous Creator and threat)?... Even Darkseid the New God of Evil Tyranny or Trigon the Demon King God of Hell can't challenge her simply..... Just be free from the Source Wall she able to disappearing the New Genesis and Apokolips in the sphere of the Gods easily. Since her Whispers (and dark evil influence greater larger telepathically mentally psychologically spiritually psychic push manipulations means) influenced and secretly manipulated behind the coming of the Many major DC storylines behind almost everything bad wrong in the DC Comics Multiverse and almost all Villains such as firstly her own son Mobius aka The Anti-Monitor, "Parallax" who possessed "Hal Jordan", "Alexander Luthor Jr" and "Superboy-Prime", Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and her last puppet pawn Barbatos during since the first Cosmic Crisis "the Crisis on Infinite Earths", "Zero Hour/Crisis on (in) Time", the second one "Infinite Crisis", the third one "Final Crisis", and the former latest "Dark Nights Metal" crisis event many of these have reshaped the multiverse and look on DC on a very major scale over many years, during her imprisonment from inside The Source Wall. With this she can be considered one of the greatest biggest greater scope bigger bad boss villains and the most powerful greatest vilest evil villain of the entire DC Comics Universe or Multiverse/Omniverse, the very technically first supervillain mastermind master manipulator of the DC History from since the very first beginning start before everything itself... [Being The Man Behind the Man/The Woman Behind The Man/The True Hidden Higher Authority Mastermind Master Manipulator/The Mastermind/The Ultimate Deceiver-Liar/The Corruptor-Corrupter: To avoid dying, due to "Krona's actions" resulting in the Multiverse splintering off into an infinite number of universes, Perpetua began to whisper (subtly sophisticated indirectly secretly telepathically psychically mentally psychologically spiritually emotionally push, whisper, motivate, inspire, provoke, activate, incite, instigate, manipulate, orchestrate, dictate, influence, control) to her son Mobius the Anti-Monitor Destroyer God, poisoning his mind and sending him on a rampage to destroy the Multiverse so she could free herself. When the crisis had caused a crack in the Source Wall to develop, it allowed Perpetua to assert more influence and manipulate/orchestrate (manipulating) on the minds of others almost all the popular multiversal cosmic-scale big supervillains, such as Alexander Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Parallax, Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and Barbatos and even the Batman Who Laughs, making her behind and full responsible for the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, Zero Hour/Crisis On Time, Final Crisis and Dark Knights: Metal, behind and responsible for all the Cosmic Crises that ever existed, behind and responsible for all suffering, almost all evil and everything wrong in the entire DC Multiverse since the beginning of everything and since the first Crisis.] To summarize. Well when the true mastermind Greater Scope Villain Bigger Bad and pure evil oldest villain Creator Goddess behind everything since the first cosmic crisis event show up revealed herself, it's inevitably surely normally that all the former Big Bad villains will reduce to the mini bosses in the final battle that so sad for some DC fans...

The presence is not omnipotent or the most powerful dc character or being.The Writer is.He’s literally the reincarnation of all the creators of DC.Even Presence stated that he was more powerful.

@@maysontaylor1873 Absolutely Correct. There Are 2 Beings Who Have Surpassed *The* *Presence.* 1- *The* *Over-Monitor* 2- *Elaine* *Belloc* (The Second God Of The D.C. Multiverse.)

Well the writer got killed so presence is still

Bcz presence said that presence is not strongest...and external forces created the presence....and pralya also she said the presence came from her and he will fall in her

@@maysontaylor1873 yeah no your wrong the writer specifically said he didn't he create the whole DC. He in fact uses the over monitor for his writings

The leviathan of stories

Beyond fiction is just real, there is no beyond fiction lol

The Bleed is the space between universes, The Overvoid / The Source is the fabric of all there is.

Bruh how can you think lucifer is the strongest dc charachter

I would theorize that Lucifer, Gabriel, and Michael are among judges of the source, putting them in a tie for the #2 spot.

Sorry, but Perpetua the sixth dimension Hand Super Celestial is far more powerful nigh-omnipotent than even "Darkseid/Darkseid true form" and Trigon"... Far more powerful and dangerous dreadful than Manhattan, Mr Mxyzptlx, Trigon, Darkseid, the Endless, and etc. Rivaled in the term of power level by Lucifer Morningstar, Archangel Michael, Great Darkness/Great Evil Beast. Lower only to The Presence/The Source/The Writer, the Judges of the Source + Cosmic Raptor thingy the envoy of The Source, and the other Hands Super Celestials combined all their powers together. I think the one who have only one person in all the universes in the Multiverse this time are Perpetua its creator itself lol, maybe that idea of one singular darkseid are no longer used (Well, maybe not, cuz all the high dimensional beings in the Sphere of the Gods the higher dimensions than the lower-dimensional material multiverse are said to have the *"Multiversal Singularity/Singularities,"* but in other works i see them in many different places, it's so self-contradictory info)... He and Trigon maybe the representations of evil, a living idea of lawful evil tyranny and the literal manifestation of all evil and hate (chaotic evil), but Perpetua IS A SEEMINGLY FUCKING FREAKING SOURCE OF ALL EVIL AND CORRUPTION AND SUFFERING AND ALL COSMIC CRISES EVENTS ALL EVIL CRISIS ENERGY POWERS HERSELF because she secretly subtly manipulating and corrupting everyone and everything behind all of them, making the Doom infiltrate in everything and all existence... Who the fuck want to face with the evil Great Mother God/Goddess Creator of the entire DC Multiverse, the Mother of "the World Forger Alpheus" and "the Monitor/Over-Monitor Mar Novu" (in this case, not the "Overvoid") and "the Anti-Monitor Mobius" (it's maybe already retcon, Mandrakk isn't oldest monitor anymore, Perpetua is the one who created the whole original DC Multiverse incarnation before Korna tempering it and Pre-Crisis, Perpetua created her three sons children to be "the first inhabitants first oldest beings in the DC multiverse" to oversee it, and when they're "killed", they aren't truly perpetually dead, they're immortal and have resurrection, they're reform in the Sixth Dimension the highest plane of existence...), and also being the most feared and dreadful Super Celestial Godlike Being in the Omniverse (omniversal multiversal nigh-omnipotent nearly infinite powerful dreaded dangerous Creator and threat)?... Even Darkseid the New God of Evil Tyranny or Trigon the Demon King God of Hell can't challenge her simply..... Just be free from the Source Wall she able to disappearing the New Genesis and Apokolips in the sphere of the Gods easily. Since her Whispers (and dark evil influence greater larger telepathically mentally psychologically spiritually psychic push manipulations means) influenced and secretly manipulated behind the coming of the Many major DC storylines behind almost everything bad wrong in the DC Comics Multiverse and almost all Villains such as firstly her own son Mobius aka The Anti-Monitor, "Parallax" who possessed "Hal Jordan", "Alexander Luthor Jr" and "Superboy-Prime", Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and her last puppet pawn Barbatos during since the first Cosmic Crisis "the Crisis on Infinite Earths", "Zero Hour/Crisis on (in) Time", the second one "Infinite Crisis", the third one "Final Crisis", and the former latest "Dark Nights Metal" crisis event many of these have reshaped the multiverse and look on DC on a very major scale over many years, during her imprisonment from inside The Source Wall. With this she can be considered one of the greatest biggest greater scope bigger bad boss villains and the most powerful greatest vilest evil villain of the entire DC Comics Universe or Multiverse/Omniverse, the very technically first supervillain mastermind master manipulator of the DC History from since the very first beginning start before everything itself... [Being The Man Behind the Man/The Woman Behind The Man/The True Hidden Higher Authority Mastermind Master Manipulator/The Mastermind/The Ultimate Deceiver-Liar/The Corruptor-Corrupter: To avoid dying, due to "Krona's actions" resulting in the Multiverse splintering off into an infinite number of universes, Perpetua began to whisper (subtly sophisticated indirectly secretly telepathically psychically mentally psychologically spiritually emotionally push, whisper, motivate, inspire, provoke, activate, incite, instigate, manipulate, orchestrate, dictate, influence, control) to her son Mobius the Anti-Monitor Destroyer God, poisoning his mind and sending him on a rampage to destroy the Multiverse so she could free herself. When the crisis had caused a crack in the Source Wall to develop, it allowed Perpetua to assert more influence and manipulate/orchestrate (manipulating) on the minds of others almost all the popular multiversal cosmic-scale big supervillains, such as Alexander Luthor, Superboy-Prime, Parallax, Mandrakk the Dark Monitor, Darkseid, and Barbatos and even the Batman Who Laughs, making her behind and full responsible for the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, Zero Hour/Crisis On Time, Final Crisis and Dark Knights: Metal, behind and responsible for all the Cosmic Crises that ever existed, behind and responsible for all suffering, almost all evil and everything wrong in the entire DC Multiverse since the beginning of everything and since the first Crisis.] To summarize. Well when the true mastermind Greater Scope Villain Bigger Bad and pure evil oldest villain Creator Goddess behind everything since the first cosmic crisis event show up revealed herself, it's inevitably surely normally that all the former Big Bad villains will reduce to the mini bosses in the final battle that so sad for some DC fans...

Like in Flex Mentallo?

DC Showcase: Death?

Richard Aviles which one? The hot one or the one who ski through the speed force that chases the flash after he died the first time?

No

Well nah i'm the true god because there can only be one god otherwise it's gods

Guess that makes True Darksied my bitch

I'm devil