kieran We don’t have *either. When you say ‘we don’t have both’, you mean that we have one but not the other, when in fact we have neither one nor the other. Yes, I’m that guy.

Myytchanneldinako Ha hi that guy

OK. We don't have this tournament at all this year!

@@myytchanneldinakoha8498 yet, you still got what he meant... Yes Master

Still young gen are struggle to win masters. i wonder if these dudes were on the court in the late 2000s what would have been their fate.

It's just insane when you think about it...we were so blessed with these 2

I want to be a Roger Federer fan so much but at the end of the day he is just not good of a player compared to Nadal and Djokovic

@@angrut who saids he has to be as good. If you like him then you like him

Facts

@@angrut Federer is older than Nadal and Djoko, which explains why the younger ones are now a bit better than him. Djoko for example started playing Federer mostly once Federer was no longer in his prime.

I saw this live, too. Wow, how time flies.

Well that's a shame Nadal slowed down in the 4th set. Back then it was best of five sets but now it is best of three and Nadal never end of winning the Miami open in his career one of the most prestigious titles he never won. Perhaps 2005 was his real chance of winning it he was the better player on the day in 2005 final. Maybe if it was best of 3 sets he would of had enough energy to close the match out

Nadal's son that is

@@Dizlowski it look like he is ahha

@@Dizlowski uh, no

nadal is steroid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@Dizlowski the doper is your beloved Steroid Federer

Bada Bing888 yep

Why's that?

WTF maybe, but if the masters 1000 final went to 5 sets again there would be no contrast with the slams and the players would suffer from more wear and tare on the body, especially before a slam.

Ricardo Feitosa agree

@@Kidgloves1984 In the slams all the matches are 5-setters. We're only talking about one match here.

And the Djoker showed up, rest is history...

@@gogigogic1936 not really. All 3 had great careers

@@justinsaehoon Agree. Djoker won all GS-s in Fedal era. It's amazing fact.

@@gogigogic1936 i love djoko but your reply to this comment is irrelevant. Just another keyboard warrior eating his potato chips.

@@romeoalpha6180 Ok, whatever...

Nah lol what are you talking about

@@ml_gamer8344 against any other player Federer could win at 70%, against Rafa he needed to give his 100% and even with that he could still lose.

@@juanestebankruhsanmguel1960 not in 2005 off of clay

@@ml_gamer8344 wrong, Miami 2005 Is an example of that.

Probably this year with alcaraz. Then last year sinner (he was 19) reached Miami final. Anyway there's a lot of new talents right now. But if you're expecting the new Roger and Rafa, you'll be ever disappointed

Just happened with Alcaraz today! Kid is fun to watch.

@@VarunMurthy i came to say the same. I prefer Alcaraz by the way.

I am a (too easy) prophet

Here we are in 2022 with alcaraz taking over.

Yes coupled with Nadal's decline which you can see here.

@abhi reddy abhi reddy But Federer's game isn't centered around his athleticism but rather his shot making. Federer loses a lot to tstsipas and Dinitrov because he is a massive choker and makes a lot of unforced errors. He doesn't play clutch as much as Nadal or Djokovic.

@abhi reddy lol calling Nadal a baseline basher. Nice try. Dude they all have to be athletic in some way. That's why they are athletes literally. But my point is Federer hasn't built his game around his athleticism. The central pillar of his game is about making ability. And to think Nadal is a baseline basher. Do you mean to say Nadal never approaches the net? If you think so just watch the USO 2019 again. You can't be a goat by playing just from the baseline. Federer had even admitted that Nadal is a better trick short player than him recently. And Nadal didn't choke on those matches. It just happened that the opponent played better. Nadal did everything he could. Luck went sideways for him on those days. That is unlike Federer who has lost matches when having CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS. Losing break in the final set isn't the same as not converting CHAMPIONSHIP POINTS. And Federer has happened to have done that not just once, but at least four times. That isn't too day Nadal hasn't choked. But it just so happens that Federer has choked more often and more spectacularly.

@@prateek752 Federer loses to dimitrov and tsitsipas because he is 10 and 17 years older than each of them. Also athleticism does matter way more than in 2005, because now the surfaces are slow as heck (=longer rallies, defensive tennis). So ofc grand pa Federer who is way past his physical prime is gonna struggle against younger players. Also the loss against dimitrov at the USO 2019 is the only one of his entire career, and he was gonna retire for injury. And it still went to 5 sets. Tells a lot about the overall level difference between both guys.

Cant be...lost fogna a few years ago at the us open like that

And lost in the 2021 AO to tsitipas

Just FYI - this is not their first encounter. Nadal actually beat Federer a year before in their first meeting in 2004, also in Miami (6-3, 6-3).

@@stephl6191 as the video states, it's their 1st final, not their 1st match.

Absolutely!!!

The Nasdaq was the best time for this tournament I think. I used to know a way to walk in for free.

Minus some people who would shout while they are serving.

Their speed & forehands have declined. Peak Fed and Nadal are between 2008 and 2012.

@@vinhbao9738 speed isn't everything. If it was, these guys would be wiped off the court years ago. Look at the ball placement in this match compared to Australian Open 2017, it's night and day.

​@@coinrotator Speed is everything. Without speed, you wouldn't be able to set up a good forehand.

I disagree the ball striking and all the less BS around tennis at this time was way better. This was the real Miami. Hot and brought a lot of good tennis.

ao final 2017?

Nadal GOAT

@@EgorSebastianBach Yeah he showed that vs Fognini

Federer won just beacause that lucky call on nadal's break point

Johan Sebastian Bach Djokovic GOAT

There is no GOAT

cuz they were 1 and 2 ranked for most part of their career

both played Novak more

He was here 18 I think but yes, all else you say is right.

lucky he plays leftie otherwise he would have been a nobody and you fed haters know it

@@rbreze2380 you disrespect the sport and you are no tennis fan saying such things.

Match saver forehand

His serve got much better by 2008.

The video is 21 minutes long, dumbass.

Lol

mole polole Not even close what are u talking about

Usvsahsvj then which one is?

@markorevan ..2017 AO

@@malikomererdogan7627 no comeback there

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so you should rewatch Djokovic in 2011-2012 beating 25 -year old Nadal 7 finals in a row on all surfaces to realise that Djocovic raised the bar In an unprecedented way, Nadal raised his level at the 2012 Australian Open and beat Federer in the semi-finals, but he also lost the longest Grand Slam final against Djoko. So after 12 years and Novak having 22 Grand Slams, it is fair to say that Djoko is the GOAT

@@ahmedisa3723 point well taken. Federer still at 103 total titles, Djokovic at 93. No doubt Nole set the standard for head to head at the Slams once he established dominance in 2011. The 2012 Australian Open win over Nadal may be the greatest match of all time.

@@drbobinski1 Wait until the next year

Agreed. The 2012 final was definitely top 3 if not solid #1. They had to sit down during the award ceremonies.

Nadal is arguably far better than what he was back then, however.... His ability to get to damn near every ball and be able to turn defense into offense would outclass almost everyone in today’s standards

Roger, Rafa, and Novak are the 3 greatest players ever yes? Roger won most of his slams not competing against the other 2. While Rafa and Novak won most of theirs competing against 1 or both of the other 2. you calling the last 5-7 years the weakest era when the 3 greatest players were playing in it is really quite stupid.

You dumb head, last 5-7 years there is no real competition for Rafa and Novak. Those two are keep on winning. Back your arguments with numbers. Who won French open 2005,06,07,08, and who lost those finals.?

Nadal had beaten him in 2004 in his first match against fed . Before that he had beaten all mediocre players who hardly won any slam .. so it’s rite , fed atleast won 10 slams with very weaker opponents

Also he's using bigger racket. Since switching rackets he's beating Nadal everywhere except for French Open

@doblealpa if he used bigger racket earlier in his career h2h he would have won more matches than Nadal

No

@@davekeller6115 wrong,with biggest racket his forhenad wouldnt have been what it was

Only finals

Fed should have won the 2nd set in all honesty.

@@Masterdoctorgenius14 and nadal should have won the match if wasn't for that call

@@matteo964 oh yeah call lmaoo

@@tattwa1 in the third set on a break point for nadal a ball by federer was clearly out. Check your facts right

@@matteo964 Oh yeah. Actually it was all conspiracy. Nadal already won before third set :'DDDDD

The bestererest.

No

Yes. Back then there was no hawkeye. Rafa could have won if it wasn't for that. This is especially sad since he still haven't won Miami masters.

What really happened was that Nadal was two sets up and 4-1 up in the 3rd. I agree that that was a decisive call that could very well have affected the outcome, but at the end of the day, he's only got himself to blame for squandering the match

yep, think it's fair to say the match completely rested on that.

In the final it used to be.

oh i see thank you!@@colins1358

@@sunsunchannel9218 NP. They should bring that back.

i think it's not a good idea for RG at 37 Lol @@colins1358