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0:00 Intro
1:14 Certified Refurbished
2:00 Deckbuttons.com
2:39 P3R Monoblock
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10:41 So much room for activities!
14:09 Sabrent m.2 Dock
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20:55 Outro

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@gRocketOne
@gRocketOne 6 місяців тому
FYI -- SteamOS 3.5 automatically mounts external drives and can format drives in Settings->Storage, so the issue with setting up the dock's drive mentioned at 15:48 should be resolved once Valve fully releases 3.5 (or if you install the OS preview)
@juli0q
@juli0q 6 місяців тому
Kinda weak that ltt didn’t find that out themselves
@Krilium
@Krilium 6 місяців тому
​@@juli0q If you've been keeping up with the LTT drama recently, the whole thing is that they rush their videos and make way too many mistakes to be considered a reliable source.
@PatalJunior
@PatalJunior 6 місяців тому
I see this as a positive, they aren't spending their time on preview versions, so that gives them time to refine everything.@@Krilium
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 6 місяців тому
chill. do you even know how long this video is in production? 3.5 isnt even that long in beta
@Stavroization
@Stavroization 6 місяців тому
​@@PatalJunior exactly, while a mention couldn't hurt, most users aren't using preview builds anyway so this is a more realistic representation of the experience.
@Deckbuttons
@Deckbuttons 6 місяців тому
Thank you for featuring my buttons!! As a long time LTT fan this is almost incomprehensible to me. They are all resin cast by hand by one person (me) and everything is from scratch (not directly molded off of the OEM steam deck buttons) That's what allows for the raised "steam" and "..." buttons, and other tweaks and themes that are coming in the near future. Absolutely in awe that this happened, about to go live to chat to everybody stopping by the site!
@MoAli72
@MoAli72 6 місяців тому
Happy for you! Good job. 🎉
@Deckbuttons
@Deckbuttons 6 місяців тому
appreciate you :) @@MoAli72
@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips 6 місяців тому
They're so pretty!
@TheRealWoofer
@TheRealWoofer 6 місяців тому
Well done @Deckbuttons ! Looking forward to getting mine. Sadly have to wait for more used decks to come into stock 🥲
@mrnipzs7604
@mrnipzs7604 6 місяців тому
Buttons look great and from what I’ve heard are good in texture but I hope with all this publicity and customers you could maybe bump down the price ever so slightly. $50 for some replacement buttons is pretty crazy. You could get a full blown Xbox controller with that money. Once you get production costs down, it would be very wise to make them more affordable, maybe within the 20-30 range. Wish you the best for your company :)
@ExtremeRate
@ExtremeRate 6 місяців тому
Wow, thank you for using our replacement shell! The result looks absolutely fantastic. By the way, this could be the hardest replacement kit in our product ranking, so GOOD JOB LLT! Through your video, we hope more and more people learn about the possibility of personalizing gaming devices on their own, and that's what we are doing to provide the best modding kits ever for all of you!
@tumo07
@tumo07 6 місяців тому
It looks awesome but the tolerance still keeping me away. At 11:40 the left joystick was stuck
@MegaFUZZY2010
@MegaFUZZY2010 6 місяців тому
Best ever.... but the left stick gets stuck>?
@fire2day
@fire2day 6 місяців тому
@@tumo07 They said right in the video that it's a torque issue on the screws. Annoying, but not a dealbreaker. They can be tuned to work just fine.
@hitmanslayer3003
@hitmanslayer3003 6 місяців тому
@@tumo07it’s an issue with the joy sticks sitting a bit to high. Wiggling them then press hard down has fixed the issue in most cases.
@kozad86
@kozad86 6 місяців тому
Do a shell for the Lenovo Legion Go? :)
@Daremachina
@Daremachina 6 місяців тому
Small correction: the extreme rate cases don’t use the same threading as the steam deck because the steam deck doesn’t have threads. Valve explained that the back screws cut into the plastic posts. This is why they don’t recommend opening your steam deck and state it severely weakens the deck. If you plan on tinkering with the internals I highly recommend the full case replacement (but the screen removal is a huge difficulty spike) Also, the thumbstick daughter board is screwed into the front case so you can flip it over and test the friction before installing the controller board. No need for full assembly before testing them.
@insignia406
@insignia406 5 місяців тому
The screen isn't that hard
@aceofkings3388
@aceofkings3388 7 днів тому
​@@insignia406for most people, it might be a bit much to risk. You are right that it isn't too hard. But for me it was fairly difficult
@gaboversta2.423
@gaboversta2.423 6 місяців тому
The fact that basically all of those upgrades are very much possible but often times come with great conceptual downsides just goes to show how much valve hit the nail on the head with the Deck.
@BoolyK
@BoolyK 6 місяців тому
I think it also shows that third party support is still so new
@mpholicx2
@mpholicx2 6 місяців тому
All except the larger ssd is a hard pass.
@sategllib2191
@sategllib2191 6 місяців тому
I feel it just shows how much more potential it could have being more modular
@mgord9518
@mgord9518 6 місяців тому
​@@sategllib2191Modularity has plenty of its own downsides. If it was modular it would be more expensive, even bulkier and not look as seamless. If the storage were easier to customize that would be a big plus, but pretty much everything else would be a net negative if made modular.
@nhiko999
@nhiko999 6 місяців тому
@@mpholicx2 thumbsticks upgrade is a maybe, I'm super happy with the stock ones, even reduced the dead zones by a lot without issue, but if/when they break or start drifting I'm happy to have the solution on the shelf.
@MegaLokopo
@MegaLokopo 6 місяців тому
They aren't mocking your height, they are mocking your lack of height.
@karelbohacek2254
@karelbohacek2254 5 місяців тому
I love these recommendations but, boy, did some of the recommendations age like fresh milk now the Steam Deck OLED is out.
@jupdown
@jupdown 6 місяців тому
I just wanted to say that I did the same shell mod with JSAUX and installed the Guilikit V2 thumbsticks and had the same issue you had at 11:40 where they were sticking. It turns out that this has something to do with the way the thumbstick cap is sitting on the post. If you wiggle the thumbstick cap off of the post a little bit and then use a decent amount of force to press it back on, it'll sit at a lower height and clear the deck's front shell (and no longer get stuck). I found this out from Retro Handheld's video (Timestamped): ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fp56pX-DsWyKy4U.html
@nifargo14rules
@nifargo14rules 6 місяців тому
Didn't your comment before I posted mine. 3 sets of GuliKit sticks had this same problem. I figured it out completely on accident but was a noticeable difference. Seems like a weird manufacturing issues, but it is permanently fixed by doing what you/I did. I will say I didn't have to do anything aside from just compressing the stick to the post, but I removed one set to confirm that nothing was broken, prior. Weird issue but one that is easily remedied, at least.
@fomingera65
@fomingera65 6 місяців тому
Lmao, HD screen costs the same as piece of metal (cooler)
@retroferret3424
@retroferret3424 5 місяців тому
@@fomingera65 precision machining metal is an expensive and slow process. screens can be assembled on a line, and the raw material cost is also less
@TheUAProdigy
@TheUAProdigy 5 місяців тому
This didn’t age well 😂
@jupdown
@jupdown 5 місяців тому
@@TheUAProdigy what do you mean?
@balakehb
@balakehb 6 місяців тому
the Aftermarket scene for the Steam Deck is incredible, Valve captured lightning in a bottle with this and I REALLY hope their refresh has Oculink or Thunderbolt 4 support to really push it ahead even further
@Artificial.Unintelligence
@Artificial.Unintelligence 6 місяців тому
valve should have further tapped into it by partnering with some people to provide such flashy upgrades and/or making a section within the steam store for more hardware stuff.. would be a lot easier to find things in one location rather than 50 sites. Oh and a deck that functions as an EGPU / performance boost would also be super cool. and even just take a similar to FRAMEWORK approach; more swappable components and just upgrade the motherboard would be perfectly reasonable.
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ 6 місяців тому
At this point, Gaben is Thor the way he captures lighting in bottles.
@NameName-ll2yx
@NameName-ll2yx 6 місяців тому
Except for the fact that windows based ones can have their screen replaced and it’ll work. Valve really locked it down apparently.
@Saint_Wolf_
@Saint_Wolf_ 6 місяців тому
@@NameName-ll2yx Nothing says it can't be fixed and the other screen is so aftermarket, it's it even a replacement, it's a replacement that has a different resolution, coloring and drivers. Replace a broken screen with another official screen and it should work fine.
@balakehb
@balakehb 6 місяців тому
@@Saint_Wolf_ the way Windows works and the way Valve's SteamOS works is entirely separate. You can replace the screen on the Steam Deck with a regular screen no issue. But the SteamOS has to push updates like a console, so when they update the SteamOS build, they push the firmware with it. This makes sure any issues resolved in firmware aren't being left out because people don't go into Desktop mode to install firmware updates. Windows devices don't do this because it's Windows, you just treat it like you would any other desktop
@am53n8
@am53n8 6 місяців тому
The products themselves might not be the greatest, but it's great that the steamdeck is getting this kind of support
@CDL_Gaming
@CDL_Gaming 6 місяців тому
Better products will come. Steam Deck is likely going to be around for awhile so the users will grow, and as the users grow so will the market for accessories.
@komenisai
@komenisai 6 місяців тому
My thoughts exactly!
@skudnu5462
@skudnu5462 6 місяців тому
I honestly have to say, ever since you guys dropped the amount of videos, the quality has improved immensity and it's a lot more enjoyable to watch long videos like this
@--Zook--
@--Zook-- 6 місяців тому
you know, the fact that the mono block manufacture warned you about the issues, and had a option they were working on makes me trust them more than 90% of the aftermarket companies out there
@jeanvaljean6433
@jeanvaljean6433 4 місяці тому
Doesnt excuse selling shoddy products that had bad results in rnd
@glazedbelmont
@glazedbelmont 2 місяці тому
Considering that company didn't let anyone return or get a refund, no lol, don't buy from them.
@LUIGIMAN309
@LUIGIMAN309 2 місяці тому
@@jeanvaljean6433 honestly, "yeah our product may or may not work but we're still gonna sell it"
@notenoughmonkeys
@notenoughmonkeys 6 місяців тому
As a retro gamer, best soft addition to the Steam Deck for me was actually mounting my NAS for Emu Deck. Given everything either has to load in RAM or expects physical media'esque access speeds, it's a surprisingly great solution to something that would be disproportionately more expensive trying to address with alternative storage solutions, especially if you want a more complete Linux ISO collection!
@daltonspinas8307
@daltonspinas8307 6 місяців тому
Do you have any tips for auto mounting? I can mount my NAS but fstab does not seem to run in game mode (only desktop), and I haven't seen a simple solution
@notenoughmonkeys
@notenoughmonkeys 6 місяців тому
@@daltonspinas8307 So my method may not be the greatest, and I do have to remember to go into desktop and re-mount as needed, then switch back to game mode (I normally leave my Steam Deck on sleep, so it doesn't get fully rebooted that often, in fact it's been so long I'd genuinely forgotten that step so I've removed the "auto" part from my prior post). To make things a tad easier to manage, I've got an external SD Card which I've installed EmuDeck on, and Sym Link to the individual systems NAS ROM folders from the SD Card, which neatly means when I'm on the go, I just have anything installed directly to the SD Card, when I'm running from home, I get the full library.
@rivalary
@rivalary 6 місяців тому
I'm also interested in seeing the method you're using.
@WebTest-lj2mf
@WebTest-lj2mf 6 місяців тому
le dot .
@kingszeno
@kingszeno 6 місяців тому
Last week i just managed to test a ISCSI pi4 with an ssd. Baldur's gate 3 ran on it, but the assets took 15 sec to load, after the level. It's fun to tinker with it even though there are issues. EmuDeck definitely would benefit the most from such a setup.
@hikingsimulator
@hikingsimulator 6 місяців тому
I love how good the first 1.5 minutes of the videos have been getting. Each time they get better and more creative, and the punchline of "our sponsor" makes me laugh every time. Keep it up LTT!
@tigrankhachaturian8983
@tigrankhachaturian8983 4 місяці тому
Rip to all the 7 people who bought the full hd screen for steam deck only for valve to drop steam deck oled
@Jytra
@Jytra 6 місяців тому
So one simple mod I did for my Steam Deck -- which I hope the team at P3R might consider as part of their install process -- is replacing the stock TIM on the APU with Honeywell PTM 7590. Since the Deck already runs quite hot the PTM works amazingly well, and I've noticed that my deck not only runs quieter since install, but I've also seen some performance improvements. Sadly I didn't measure it before doing the upgrade, so my experience is very subjective, but I'd say it's worth doing just for the reduction in fan noise.
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 6 місяців тому
It looks like the monoblock would benefit from something like K5 Pro or thermal putty, something that can squish, instead of pads to prevent uneven contact
@ChristopherStanton
@ChristopherStanton 6 місяців тому
Copper shims, in fact, are better because then you have the force pushing against the die of the chip.
@joshjlmgproductions3313
@joshjlmgproductions3313 6 місяців тому
@@ChristopherStanton I'd be worried about those shifting and shorting out.
@Lunas2525
@Lunas2525 6 місяців тому
This is something that can be fixed in design they need to adjust the approach on how they make contact points they should prioritize the soc making sure they contact it at exact pressure then have everywhere else designed for thermal pads the pads will allow for height tolerance around the board.
@ChristopherStanton
@ChristopherStanton 6 місяців тому
This may also be overlooking the temperature tolerance of the different components too, the RAM is up to 85degC while the APU is 105degC, is it wise to make contact with both at once for the same heatsink?
@Whiteshade
@Whiteshade 6 місяців тому
actually monoblock works fine on my steamdeck, not like shown in the video. probably couldn't mount it correctly or they received bad unit.
@meric12131415
@meric12131415 6 місяців тому
I'm glad that linus is doing videos on the deck again 😁 it's been a long time
@pieceofschmidtgamer
@pieceofschmidtgamer 6 місяців тому
The problem with some of these upgrades, in particular the ones that impact performance, is that they're less upgrades and more trade offs. There's a reason why Valve set it up that way and messing with it messes with that balance. In my mind there are only two upgrades to the Steam Deck internals that are actually worth it, storage capacity and the analogue sticks. And frankly, you don't strictly speaking _need_ to do either. A micro SD card will do fine for storage and unless the analogue sticks start acting up you really don't need to upgrade them either.
@uberblue6843
@uberblue6843 6 місяців тому
The most tech tippy video I've seen in a while. Thanks for getting into the details and not treating it like short circuit.
@3bryanboy
@3bryanboy 6 місяців тому
Enjoying my steamdeck for almost a year now. Been able to play some triple aa games on it like Spiderman, Days Gone, Cyber Punk and Elden Ring. I use it mainly when I go to my brothers house for a bit of a lan party to play co op shooters. The J Saux case with cooler makes it around 10°C cooler and is just a click on and off without any modifications to the deck! Also works great when docked!
@maxosborne1693
@maxosborne1693 6 місяців тому
Yeah i recently got the 64gb and upgraded it to 500gb, probably gonna get that back plate next
@Sanx007
@Sanx007 6 місяців тому
Triple aa is like aaaaaa games
@aaroneldreth
@aaroneldreth 6 місяців тому
@@maxosborne1693yeah I just got my 64gb refurb from GameStop and upgraded to a 1tb SSD, and the jsaux vented backplate too. Easy peasy
@cyphre
@cyphre 6 місяців тому
Those buttons are the most amazing part. Absolute best upgrade. The shell is nice too, but would probably also just stick with the back shell. Just to avoid having to swap the screen around.
@Lem_On_Lime
@Lem_On_Lime 6 місяців тому
The screen removal looks really rough.
@Whiteshade
@Whiteshade 6 місяців тому
$50 for few plastic yeah.
@eponaalbion
@eponaalbion 6 місяців тому
the maker posted above, they personally do each one by hand @Deckbuttons @Deckbuttons 12 hours ago Thank you for featuring my buttons!! As a long time LTT fan this is almost incomprehensible to me. They are all resin cast by hand by one person (me) and everything is from scratch (not directly molded off of the OEM steam deck buttons) That's what allows for the raised "steam" and "..." buttons, and other tweaks and themes that are coming in the near future. Absolutely in awe that this happened, about to go live to chat to everybody stopping by the site! @@Whiteshade
@enemyuav8809
@enemyuav8809 6 місяців тому
I just got my Steam deck less than a month ago and man, although many of these products aren’t perfect, I LOVE the idea that there’s such a wild market out there creating things for the Steam deck
@chancemcclendon3906
@chancemcclendon3906 5 місяців тому
the timing on this is gold.
@musicjewell9329
@musicjewell9329 Місяць тому
Ya steamdeck oled fixes a lot
@Nate_the_Nobody
@Nate_the_Nobody 6 місяців тому
I'm amazed you guys didn't test the replacement screen at the decks native resolution to see how it looks in comparison
@SwolePapi15
@SwolePapi15 6 місяців тому
Running a non native resolution on a display generally looks pretty bad, wouldn’t be a fair comparison to the replacement.
@mrpiratefox4497
@mrpiratefox4497 6 місяців тому
Upscaling non-native looks bad, always, why even test it??
@ordici_
@ordici_ 6 місяців тому
@@mrpiratefox4497 with fsr its not that bad
@HeretixAevum
@HeretixAevum 6 місяців тому
Why would you bother going through all of that trouble and hassle (and the cost) to upgrade that screen and then play at the deck's native res, though?
@CatNoirVR
@CatNoirVR 6 місяців тому
Linus also hasn't tried the vibrant deck plug in which makes the colors of the stock screen so much better. That we actually won't need any replacement screen.
@fayer3
@fayer3 6 місяців тому
8:43 looks like the thermal paste wasn't spread evenly, that could explain the temperature differences
@peartreez
@peartreez 6 місяців тому
Good catch. I've tried warning people over and over again on GPU repaste vides that you must spread the paste on the dies because its not the same as just putting a blob on an IHS and it'll likely spread to enough places. On dies, always spread it.
@Mad-Lad-Chad
@Mad-Lad-Chad 6 місяців тому
@@peartreez If there was proper contact it'd be spread properly. If there is so little pressure that you have to make sure it spreads then it isn't going to conduct well anyways, regardless of spread. The goal is to have as little TIM between the CPU and cooler as possible.
@prarmageddon
@prarmageddon 6 місяців тому
@@Mad-Lad-Chad it would not fully cover the whole DIE if there's not enought thermalpaste applied initialy even if the pressure was sufficient. And you could not 100% tell if it is enough or not.
@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips 6 місяців тому
Hey, as we mentioned in the video, we got a sample from Wave 1 of Posseidon's 3 Rings' original Monoblock, and their CEO warned us in advance that they had experienced wildly varying results, ranging from 20 degrees below stock, to 10 degrees above stock due to some manufacturing issues. We followed the directions they provided, using the supplied pads, and unfortunately ended up with a poor result. P3R also told us they are aiming for a more consistent "10 degrees below stock" for the second iteration of the Monoblock (Wave 2), and told us about some of the improvements they are planning, which include increased fin density, additional material over the APU to improve mounting pressure and thermal conductance, and some tweaks to improve levelling and mounting. They also mentioned experimenting with a larger heatpipe, though at the time of this update, that's still listed as 'Pending' for their original Monoblock, while it appears to be confirmed for the Monoblock 2. We look forward to trying out both Wave 2 and Monoblock 2 and seeing the improvements first-hand. In the meantime, there's an active modding community on P3R's Discord who have conducted a ton of experiments aimed at improving the performance of the Wave 1 part, you can check that out here: discord.gg/uRhFDDK
@macclea
@macclea 5 місяців тому
I love how honest you guys are about everything rather than pretending everything went great. I wanted to swap the shell of my deck but I'm not good with this type of thing, it seems pretty invasive and the quality sounds bad.
@maulerrw
@maulerrw 6 місяців тому
for determining the thickness of thermal pad required, there is a product used in engine building called a squash string, used to work out the clearance on bearings. You put it in and tighten down the bracket then undo it and how much it has flattened out tells you the exact size of the gap I don’t know if people use these in PC building yet, but it seems like a great way to get the perfect thickness pad required for those VRM and memory chips
@phyde1885
@phyde1885 6 місяців тому
I was wondering when someone was going to get around to mentioning the method you suggested using squash string. As a retired EE & a Mechanic, I can definitely see the advantage and credibility in using this technique. This SHOULD be the GOLD Standard way of doing ALL HEAT-SINK Clearances !! It's done this way in EVERY SPEC Motor,so there should be NO difference in our Micro-Electronics either ! This would insure Maximum & Minimum height tolerances to gain the BEST out of the Heat Sinks. And it's Easily attainable !😎
@Voltaic_Fire
@Voltaic_Fire 6 місяців тому
It may have cost a pretty penny but I think it is worth it to add all that optional customisation and performance to the Deck, the right to repair (and upgrade) is a wonderful thing.
@Scarbuckks
@Scarbuckks 6 місяців тому
Recently bought a 512Gb Refurb Deck, I genuinely thought they sent me a brand new one until I saw the “refurb” sticker on the packaging. They even gave me a new in packaging cleaning cloth
@JoyconJames
@JoyconJames 5 місяців тому
Gonna need to make a new one of these for the SteamDeck OLED. This was a really great video. Looking forward to your updated upgrades for the OLED model.
@spacedout4061
@spacedout4061 5 місяців тому
It’s… basically the same lol all these upgrades are gonna be the same
@Ulthane-40k
@Ulthane-40k 10 днів тому
The diging part is the coolest thing you have done
@BlackTearsYT
@BlackTearsYT 6 місяців тому
I love the idea of a display upgrade but this one feels like they wanted to focus on higher resolution as the main selling point, which I think is not really a good idea considering the Steam Deck's performance and battery. Personally this is what I would really want from a display upgrade, and I'd pay over $100 for it: -Better color (the one in the video does have this) -Better response time (the Steam Deck display's response time feels very noticeable in some games to the point that I don't play them on the Deck) -Higher refresh rate (even just 75 Hz or 90 Hz, doesn't need to be 120 Hz for me) -A slightly bigger display via smaller bezels (same resolution) I'm sure some people like the higher resolution and that's cool, but I really think that's the wrong focus for the Steam Deck given its performance and battery constraints. I'd even put up with all the BIOS tedium for the stuff I mentioned above. I'm sure there's difficulty around sourcing a display like that though.
@unnoticedhero1
@unnoticedhero1 6 місяців тому
One way I've noticed to get response time a little better is to set the Deck's frame rate limit to OFF because there's a separate option to allow/disallow screen tearing and use the game's Vsync instead so the game doesn't render past your set refresh rate and burn battery. Though if you're playing games at 30-40fps response time will always be higher than a good pc that can run at 60fps or higher.
@me2olive
@me2olive 6 місяців тому
Given the Decks huge bezels, I'd bet you could fit a 7.5" display into the same frame as long as you could find a compatible one. It doesn't sound like much, but that extra .5" could really help with text legibility in some games, I'd definitely buy that upgrade.
@BlackTearsYT
@BlackTearsYT 6 місяців тому
@@unnoticedhero1 Yeah I'm aware of that. Even under ideal circumstances, I believe the Steam Deck is 30+ ms for response time.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 6 місяців тому
I don’t get it. You understand that the performance and battery life are reasons the 1200p screen is a bad idea, but you WANT a 90hz display…what the heck do you play at 90FPS that doesn’t max out the GPU?
@BlackTearsYT
@BlackTearsYT 6 місяців тому
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Older games
@philipwoolford6111
@philipwoolford6111 6 місяців тому
I did a joystick replacement and the stems on the hall effect sensor are a bit longer than the stock ones, you can take the top off and file it down to get a smooth action.
@UnjustifiedRecs
@UnjustifiedRecs 6 місяців тому
Got my steamdeck a few weeks ago, was waiting for a refurb but they were constantly sold out so got one in a steam sale. Absolutely the best purchase I've made in years, it's a tinkerers dream (it's definitely not for everyone)
@SamButler22
@SamButler22 6 місяців тому
I would upgrade the screen for a smaller bezel; not too bothered about resolution or even colour gamut. Not sure if that would be enough to make the bios flashing worth the hassle for me though
@SamButler22
@SamButler22 6 місяців тому
Ok sounds like way more hassle
@Pythonzzz
@Pythonzzz 5 місяців тому
Yeah replacing the screen looks like a huge hassle and risk.
@piplup10203854
@piplup10203854 6 місяців тому
The chassis swap is definitely the way to go! That looks awesome! The 1200p does look a lot better... dang that sucks it is such a big performance hit.
@DowneyMax
@DowneyMax 6 місяців тому
On a handheld, 720p is fine, and you're prioritising performance anyway
@pandanstuff9000
@pandanstuff9000 6 місяців тому
very creative intro truly although it only lasts like 1 minute its still really good and got me to watch this more than once fully
@prettysheddy
@prettysheddy 6 місяців тому
I believe the whole thing that happened at LTT was for the best. This video was well done and still had the Linus charm. I have noticed that these new videos just seem to have more care and less objectivity more straight forward facts. All in all I think I can watch more videos. Good job guys.
@primedivine
@primedivine 6 місяців тому
17:46 I wish we could have seen those thumb-sticks tested in LABS. How do the dead-zones and outputs compare to the standard OEM thumb-sticks?
@glazedbelmont
@glazedbelmont 6 місяців тому
they're square gated while the OEM are circular gated, so it won't feel the same by default, you'd need to change it in steam input to account for that. That's why the gulikit ones kinda suck while the new Elecgear ones just are better
@BlindMango
@BlindMango 6 місяців тому
I love how he initially complained about a slightly scratched d-pad and then went on to replace it with a bunch of incredibly tacky replacement parts lmao
@Metal_Maxine
@Metal_Maxine 6 місяців тому
He let Jordan buy the parts so of course they will be bright, shiny and ADHD pleasing. [Jordan did the TEMU video]
@ChazzDCFC
@ChazzDCFC 6 місяців тому
Glad i got to watch this before I looked into the DeckHD, I was also thinking about the script with the SSD dock. Would like to mention to anyone opening their decks remember to take out the micro SD card other wise you may snap it!
@Call_Me_David
@Call_Me_David 6 місяців тому
For the tinkerer, you could use a marker (sharpie or dry erase), and color all over the part that's dragging to find out where it's dragging, and then use a tiny file or craft knife and cut/file away the problem spot of the case.
@nickburklow5212
@nickburklow5212 6 місяців тому
the sticky joysticks is a known issue with the guile kit stuff - take them out, pull the stick off and pop it back on, pushing hard, should fix it right up.
@bodivanbodivan3668
@bodivanbodivan3668 4 місяці тому
The title should be “Destroy your steam deck for $100''
@TheOneSpam
@TheOneSpam 6 місяців тому
Love the summary/recap at the end, and all of the perspectives to consider when evaluating the value/potential of each product/review. Soo nice to see it! Keep it up!!
@mitcoes
@mitcoes 6 місяців тому
You missed one component, that I love: USB-C to USB-C EXTENSION CABLE (2m is mine) So you can play while charging, using USB connected to the dock, HDD, or SDD, or use your TV or monitor and the Steam deck as controller.
@heyqt7485
@heyqt7485 6 місяців тому
I love all the accesorries, but tbh I absolutely love the simple approach with having everything black. I get distracted easily and I love that when I game all I see is the screen and nothing else. I wish that the screen gad better sRGB and was an oled, but I think valve nailed it! I want to upgrade to a bigger ssd later, but with that said I've been using an sd-card and in everyday use it works great!
@hitmiccs
@hitmiccs 6 місяців тому
As for the replacement shell, I'd fear the Nokia-effect - there were so many crappy cheap cases for the popular models and the quality and feel was terrible. When the case-swap is that much work, I'd be depressed to find a lower quality gaming- and handling experience afterwards. I'll stay with the stock shell, the hall-effect sticks are quite attractive though :D Thanks for the video, that gave me something to think about.
@janjansen8623
@janjansen8623 6 місяців тому
my favourite gamecube joystick was also the purple translucent one. i like seeing the electronics inside.
@xxwmd_gmgxx9779
@xxwmd_gmgxx9779 Місяць тому
I feel that a lot of the information given on the different mods will greatly vary from user to user as many of the problems faced come from mistakes on the user side such as the overheating causing the joystick issues and the issues with the front panel they probably overtightened it its also good to take note that the screw issue pressented on the XtremeRate Shell wont be for everyone as I managed to Use the stock screws on my shell and everything is locked in place and have no issues with anything being loose or coming off. As for the DeckHD screen everyones milage will vary as some screens are miss aligned and need to be RMA'd due to some quality control issues but if you get a good unit or one that only looses on 1-2 pixels and it doesn't bother you you can definitely enjoy it. I went through the setup it really only took me about 45-50 minutes on my first ever time opening my Steam Deck now that i have done it on others I can confidently do it in about 40 minutes so them saying it will take about 2hours+ will also vary from user to user and on their level of knowledge on electronics. For a non techsavvy user it could take double the time on the page or maybe less... as for the Bios although its a bit of a hastle you dont really see SteamOS releases that often and reflashing is pretty simple.
@gabriantolegend
@gabriantolegend 6 місяців тому
What happened to the new Secret shopper 3 part 2!? The video now says private when trying to load from UKposts home. Re-release!
@jamess.931
@jamess.931 6 місяців тому
$50 for the buttons is insane, its maybe 10 cents of plastic. Sure R&D cost money but not enough to justify a 500x increase. They should be at most $20 but really should be $10-15 and $20 for the flashier versions
@oct2274
@oct2274 6 місяців тому
This could possibly be the biggest ripoff I've seen in years. That being said, a sucker is born everyday.
@awwastor
@awwastor 6 місяців тому
It’s less about R&D and more about e.g. molds (those are insanely expensive) and labor /shipping costs. Normally these all get ammortised due to being spread on tons of units but with a low volume product like this, you’re paying for a lot of this cost
@Braiam
@Braiam 6 місяців тому
Remember that you also need the tooling, the mold, set up the upfront costs for everything.
@mobilePCreviews
@mobilePCreviews 6 місяців тому
plastic injection molds in this size cost upwards of 12k cad. that's not including the r$d involved before creating the molds. they'd have to sell 240 units just to break even on the tooling cost and that's before even paying themselves. This is a niche within a niche.
@unknown3090
@unknown3090 6 місяців тому
They're made of resin not plastic, meaning these are artisan items made with Inks and molds and aren't being injection molded. Another limiting factor with resin is air pockets which are notoriously known for ruining dice and or other resin sculptures.
@michaelmiller3012
@michaelmiller3012 6 місяців тому
Seems like that monoblock would benefit from that liquid thermal pad stuff you guys tested on video cards last year. Based on your review, I bought some for video cards when I put them on water blocks - the stuff works great and would definitely help with that variable gapping problem.
@Notpoop906
@Notpoop906 2 місяці тому
Linus digging in that hole looked surprisingly good 😂The lighting matched really well.
@Lefguga
@Lefguga 6 місяців тому
8:43 In that Frame Linus opens the Steam Deck again and lifts the heatsink, you can see the mounting pressure on the ram is very uneven (1 of 4 ram chips seems to have no contact at all). This would explain the bad temperatures on the die also, guessing that to bottom pads for the powersupply are too thick and cause an uneven pressure in the apu itself) I personally would give it another try first testing without thermal pads at all and if that works better using pads but press them a little bit harder on the components to make them thinner (yes that works, happend to me with 2 waterblocks for 2080 ti and 4090 as I preordered them and the thermal pads had the wrong thickness for some components)
@prarmageddon
@prarmageddon 6 місяців тому
They are also did a bad job on applying thermalpaste on the DIE - you can see it not fully covered. You should spread the paste and not dotting it as they did. Another bad effort from the team after all the critics they got.
@richard-davies
@richard-davies 6 місяців тому
Swapped my internal drive out for a 2TB, replaced the thermal paste with PTM7950, this stuff is really nice, knocked a good few degrees off even some other aftermarket pastes I usually use like PK3. Also swapped out only the back panel with the new updated Jsaux back panel which has a cut out with a dust filter on top of the fan. Changing the paste and backplate alone has shaved a good 15c to 20c of my deck while significantly lowering the fan speed, so a nice cooler and quieter deck.
@disasterincarnate
@disasterincarnate 6 місяців тому
yup, much cooler cpu/gpu, but because of that hole on/near the fan, your nvme drive and ic controller chips will now cook due to lower air intake at the normal intake vent.
@richard-davies
@richard-davies 6 місяців тому
@@disasterincarnate The hole on the back isn't fully open, and the dust filter on the back still blocks a lot of air so there is still a good ammount of air being pulled over the IC/SSD area. If the Jsaux backplate was killing decks because of overheat it with would be news by now.
@Shaded
@Shaded 6 місяців тому
sticky sticks are also present in the OG case, the solution I found best is to loose the screws holding the sticks by a tiny bit and all is good. The tolerances there are a little bit small.
@Zastrutzki
@Zastrutzki 6 місяців тому
The external dock and drive are perfect for your Windows install on the Steam Deck by the way. 2nd workstation! On the go, gaming goodness with SteamOS, sitting down, extra PC for a 2nd vpn connection to a customer or something.
@pyroslev
@pyroslev 6 місяців тому
Give this another year and perhaps Valve getting more on board with the modding/aftermarket scene, you'll see this process get better and be very affordable.
@c1p0
@c1p0 6 місяців тому
I was considering the screen update just because it had better colors. I found the colors on the original screen very bland, but after using SteamOS 3.5 color controls I was able to tweak it so that it looks a lot better.
@unholydonuts
@unholydonuts 5 місяців тому
Or you could consider the Steam Deck Oled which has some significant internal overhauls and upgrades.
@c1p0
@c1p0 5 місяців тому
@@unholydonuts True. My comment is from 3 weeks ago when I had no idea the Steam Deck OLED even existed.
@frostilver
@frostilver 6 місяців тому
You should set to 720p on your 1080p screen. The screen upgrade is really for mitigating the screen door effect, NOT about how much higher resolution you can get on such mobile device.
@Steve-yq5fh
@Steve-yq5fh Місяць тому
Going to try these settings out! Currently around 30FPS but on higher difficulties I’m getting 25 so need to review my settings
@peartreez
@peartreez 6 місяців тому
I really hope that Nintendo and Steam keep their next devices to 720p/800p screens. Everyone wants more resolution but I just want to be able to play at some higher settings, or framerate. Screens at these sizes are great at this resolution.
@maxosborne1693
@maxosborne1693 6 місяців тому
Tbh i i think higher is better as you can just lower the rez, then on games that dont push the system to its limits like a emulator you get a way nicer image
@unnoticedhero1
@unnoticedhero1 6 місяців тому
I think they probably would keep it the same, though I could see the next Switch being a 1080p screen that just runs games at 720 and uses DLSS to get to 1080 but we'll see.
@deejrdee1
@deejrdee1 6 місяців тому
A handheld console that's also customizable? Sounds awesome. The drawbacks sound like it might be a little tough to swap parts, but it looks so much better in the end. Now I wonder if the same could be done with the Switch, I'm curious to see if it works or not.
@Wylie288
@Wylie288 6 місяців тому
Idk super easy. My dumbass broke my thumbstick and it was super easy AND cheap to fix. Just as simple as installing an SSD. Just two more screws.
@deejrdee1
@deejrdee1 6 місяців тому
@@Wylie288 That sounds amazing, cheap and easy is the best thing for someone who worries about spending too much for a replacement part (that's me btw). I wish fixing things was always affordable for everyone to do.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 6 місяців тому
Most of this can be done on the Switch! ExtremeRate started with Switch shells.
@deejrdee1
@deejrdee1 6 місяців тому
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Thanks, I'm glad to hear it can work on the Switch as well.
@CimInc
@CimInc 6 місяців тому
Got the 64gb refurb model, upgraded the SSD to 1tb, changed the back plate to a JSAUX and got GuliKit Hall Effect Joysticks. Couldn't be more satisfied tbh. And it looked brand new, there were ZERO signs of any wear on the unit, display was flawless etc.
@lealyago
@lealyago 6 місяців тому
First, your videos has a great quality and it was alot cohesive to some folk who didn't research anything about SteamDeck, a great video for new comers to Handheld PC. I'm obsessed with the SteamDeck even tho i don't own one yet(3rd world country here) and i know you guys have a usual way to show something different then the others creators on this platform are showing, but i think it was pretty vague on a lot of aspects, that transparent back-plate, for example, has some great results on temp results, there are other solutions for temps, fans attached to the backplate, maybe showing some changes by switching the thermal compound on SoC would be great, if you're already ripping everything apart might as well optimize the time spent opening up and adding some special thermal paste/pads and then some results with that expensive lab. You could show waaaay more affordable buttons and numpads, and so on. lots of options with the accessories available. I think the writers team didn't research that much, which is a bummer, almost everytime you guys try to approach some new tech you guys try to do something new and innovative which wasn't the case of this video, ain't a bad thing showing something vanilla but you can see the lack of effort to write something that could be way more polished. if someone from LMG is readying this to the end, just one quick question, are you guys gonna follow up on that private investigador? because that statement from one of your ex employees was pretty serious, don't let that under the rug because another false step might result in a bigger problem than it was a couple of months ago. In regard you guys are my fav tech channel for more than 8 years, even tho i'm alot skeptical about your reviews way before tech jesus spat the truth, keep the hard work.
@xero110
@xero110 6 місяців тому
I wish someone would make a custom back shell and M.2 ribbon cable that lets you use a 2280 M.2 accessible via a hatch door on the new back shell.
@kevinj24535
@kevinj24535 6 місяців тому
There are adapters developed for the Steam Deck to install 2280 ssd above the m.2 slot. The SSD then protrudes over the battery. But you have to build the case yourself. Cut a hole in the case yourself or build something from 3D print.
@BEARTAC0S
@BEARTAC0S 6 місяців тому
The same company that makes the monoblock in the video offers an adapter and a new backplate to accommodate a full size m.2 but it’s a pre order at the moment
@bondjovi4595
@bondjovi4595 6 місяців тому
Ide cables can only be a maximum length Sata can only be a maximum length. Might be the same with M.2
@glazedbelmont
@glazedbelmont 6 місяців тому
@@BEARTAC0S Seeing how the company handled the monoblock, don't get your hopes up
@xero110
@xero110 6 місяців тому
@@BEARTAC0S This is great, it looks like you need to remove the back cover to swap M.2 drives. A small removable cover would be better, but this works. Especially since 4TB NVMe drives are so cheap now.
@MattA-fi5qe
@MattA-fi5qe 6 місяців тому
11:55 i had no such issues with my JSAUX transparent front/back. Looks and feels great. No perceivable difference in thumb stick feel, and it uses stock screw sizes. Also came with tools. They have a great video walkthrough too. It was like a 4 hour install though, and ive done all kinds of hobbiest mods and repairs before. Very daunting install if youve never attempted something similar and i advise against it.
@alphacompton
@alphacompton 6 місяців тому
When I had a Steam Deck I was bringing it to work and using it as my main PC docked on my work M/K and monitor during the nightshift. It was great. I eventually sold it to buy an AyaNeo 2 which I use even more since it's Windows and works even better as a PC docked.
@Bluewolf09
@Bluewolf09 6 місяців тому
That purple case looks just like my old N64 controller!
@PuffyRule
@PuffyRule 6 місяців тому
Secret shopper 3 video is no more,after 3 min stop,I refresh and is gone......😢
@benbo4394
@benbo4394 6 місяців тому
The editing of the intro is enjoyable, great job
@deadhead_01
@deadhead_01 3 місяці тому
I like that the upgraded screen with “anti glare coating” had substantially more visible glare than the oem screen on camera lmao.
@mattrubin89
@mattrubin89 5 місяців тому
With OLED Steadm Deck out, RIP DeckHD
@andrewjmarx
@andrewjmarx 6 місяців тому
It'd be awesome if Valve went full Framework and made everything super modular and easy to repair, and then also sold mainboards separately for tinkerers. But if not that, then here's hoping the next version is at least a step towards to where some mods like custom buttons or case are just a little more practical
@Thymed
@Thymed 6 місяців тому
They are pretty easy to repair, it’s one of the advantages of the steam deck
@mvadu
@mvadu 6 місяців тому
For heating that screen uniformly use the 3d printer heated bed.. Put the screen side down, set to 70C leave it for few minutes, it will soften the adhesives and you don't need to put so much hot air and/or tin foil.
@Eidolon2003
@Eidolon2003 6 місяців тому
Man no wonder you guys were getting high temps with that cooler upgrade. Look at the thermal paste at 8:43! Doesn't even come close to covering the die. Good luck with that lol
@bezhanaland4220
@bezhanaland4220 6 місяців тому
What happened to secret shopper 3?
@SnakeJuice
@SnakeJuice 6 місяців тому
My guess is Starforge talking with Linus. But I don't think they are that big of a sellout to just delete the video to just not make a brand look bad or I least I want to think that
@bezhanaland4220
@bezhanaland4220 6 місяців тому
@@SnakeJuice thanks for the reply. Hopefully they did do it because of a mistake and hopefully they will upload it again.
@goatslayerwp
@goatslayerwp 6 місяців тому
What happened to the video posted after this? I was just watching it and it was removed halfway though. It was comparing the systems they ordered as a secret shopper.
@goatslayerwp
@goatslayerwp 6 місяців тому
ANYONE?
@allenellisdewitt
@allenellisdewitt 6 місяців тому
I'd have loved to have seen you try doing the upgraded cooler WITH thermal pads, to see what it COULD be capable of
@Dhruv-qw7jf
@Dhruv-qw7jf 6 місяців тому
"I spent more than I should have/I'm spending more than I should" is basically the theme of almost every LTT video.
@Kraftik611
@Kraftik611 6 місяців тому
I wish it was an OLED screen instead of a HD screen, it be cool if they also partnered with the guys who make the faceplates so we can just do front panel swaps
@akaigetsu
@akaigetsu 6 місяців тому
Sadly you'd still have to remove the screen with heat because the adhesive is on the steam deck's mainboard frame. Would be nice if the screen was a combo with the frontplate but I guess it has to do with the integrity of the device
@ejstills3946
@ejstills3946 6 місяців тому
What a coincidence that I just bought a used steam deck yesterday and just opened UKposts and this one the first video in my feed. Linus your team does really well with all tech products. You guys make it look so easy to add upgrades. P.S. already added and playing PS2 games first three hours of turning it on 😂. Love my steam deck!! 🔥
@3rn1z
@3rn1z 6 місяців тому
In fact, the left joystick for Guli kit is like 2mm higher than original, it needs to be pressed in it's proper place, after the snap-in sound the left analog will fall in it's place like right one and will not need any adjustments.
@MaavBR
@MaavBR 6 місяців тому
I love how there was a product placement spot for the Sabrent dock BUT its Ethernet port wasn't mentioned
@wafflestoyou
@wafflestoyou 6 місяців тому
I like the much more comedic videos linus tends to make now
@Acr303
@Acr303 6 місяців тому
Why was the secret shoppers part 2 privated?
@dvalentine8744
@dvalentine8744 6 місяців тому
i was literally in the middle of the video lol
@UniversalPwner21
@UniversalPwner21 6 місяців тому
@@dvalentine8744 Something smells fishy.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 6 місяців тому
7:20 I really like 1600p in this form factor, not because 1600P more betterer than 1200p, but because you can get perfect 4:1 scaling down to 800p for games that are a little more intensive. With a 1200p screen you need to drop to 600p, but it just so happens that 800p is the minium resolution for many game UI to function properly(i think technically 768p but who's using a 4:3 display in a hand held, though, that does peek my interest). Hence why i like 1600p, yes 1200p would offer better FPS at 600p, but for best compatibility, you need 800p, at which the 1200p screen will either look a bit blurry, or will cost some extra power for the scaling engine to make it look better.
@DevinNordinAlphachicken22
@DevinNordinAlphachicken22 6 місяців тому
I found I had a sticky joystick too after my full frame swap. Adjusting screws didn't do anything unless the screw were loose which... well you know. I ended up layering up with a UV glue the posts you screw into by a few mm and it worked great after. Basically the mold they use isn't as precise with heights and needs a little height added.
@ekaputra5280
@ekaputra5280 6 місяців тому
Did he delete secret shopper part 2?
@ogonbio8145
@ogonbio8145 6 місяців тому
Whyd yall have to private the secret shopper part 2 video? it was up for 6 hours...
@nathanielphillips5727
@nathanielphillips5727 6 місяців тому
I was half way through too
@UniversalPwner21
@UniversalPwner21 6 місяців тому
@@nathanielphillips5727 Something smells fishy.
@ViewportPlaythrough
@ViewportPlaythrough 6 місяців тому
watched a bit of the vid but had to sleep, then poof, its gone.. didnt get to the starforge part. was starforge that bad? as in really really bad?
@daydream605
@daydream605 6 місяців тому
This video reminds me of custom psp days, i had a transparent case and the thing wasnt excatly thr same as spec and i used a small file to trim some of the edges in order to make it fit. The problem is the manufacturing moulds dont guarentee the shape and size.
@gilramos5767
@gilramos5767 6 місяців тому
Jsaux's backplate is better imo. If you don't want to deal with the custom block, Jsaux includes an aluminum sheet with a thermal pad that you can place on top of your existing cooling solution.
@dvalentine8744
@dvalentine8744 6 місяців тому
uhh i was in the middle of watching the new secret shopper video and it was just ripped from the internet..... what happened??
@cipherbenchmarks
@cipherbenchmarks 6 місяців тому
Why did you take down the Starforge video?
@robertwhite6384
@robertwhite6384 6 місяців тому
I agree with Linus here. My partner and I both have a steam deck. We switched out the backs so we can tell them apart, but the front case swap seems to have too many downsides to be worth it.
@MrFabtahiti
@MrFabtahiti 6 місяців тому
Just want to say that I am happy the quality and tone of your videos have staid the same after the troubles you got a few weeks back, glad you took time to reflect. Looking forward to more videos, my favorite tech channel, great team you have here.
@MrFabtahiti
@MrFabtahiti 6 місяців тому
Actually videos are even better, I have a feeling people are more relaxed in the videos and try new things.
@TylerNieman
@TylerNieman 6 місяців тому
Stellar video - very cool upgrades and love Steam Deck content!
@JontysCorner
@JontysCorner 6 місяців тому
Probably should have just used some other 3rd party 1mm thermal pads for those inconsistent contact points, see what that does.
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