Also full hp teammates that run up and take your executions

On a bad day Breach will feel like a 1v7 mode where you're allowed to kill only 4 of said enemies.

For me the worst teammate is the one that NEVER defends any archer points and always sits either on enemy spawn or in the middle Change my mind

I relate to number four so much, everyone just ganks the guy I am fighting the moment they see the orange icon beside the player name, and the worst part is they usually have max HP, whilst I have been bruised and need some healing. So right as I counter the bad guy and i'm about to execute them, my teammate with max health LIGHT ATTACKS them and just steals the kill. It's like their making sure that they get that kill and it pisses me off so much.

What about teammates that, while you are duelling someone alone in the cauldron room, instead of helping, feeds them revenge and make the fight 3 times slower so you can't even activate the damn thing before it breaks the gate?! I even tried to leave the duel and let them have it while I activated it, but obviously the other guy knew and wouldn't let me, so I was literally stuck at an objective and couldn't complete it.

People who stall greedy enemies are the best, a whole team letting me cap 3 ramparts while they gank 2 guys is just too good.

here's some tips for all the pikeman farmers out there: 1. remember to go for the archers in the zone first, those archers can 1-shot the pikeman. After that your team's archers will spawn so you can clear the way much faster for the ram. 2. only camp the pikeman spawn when your ram is already breaking the gate or you have a teammate stay with the ram to fight off other team players. Because the ram will only move when there are allies near by and they move/ break gate faster with a player close to it these 2 tips will also work for defender too, protect archers & clear pikeman to stall ram. That's all i got after years of farming pikeman, now get out there and earn that victory and please don't be a quitter just stick together to fight if you have to

I actually managed to win a game with 3 bots on my team as a defender in the old version of breach where you have spawn tickets the whole game. I got F the while game but one by one I managed to get their tickets low enough by getting greifed emote spammed and quick chat spammed but killing one or two of them while in revenge. They got over confident and I used it against them. In the final stage they had a couple of tickets left where me and my bots capitalized on it and won It was my best win ever, I struggled but I won in the end.

Breach is the kinda mode that REALLY needs comms. You really need to know what every teammate has in mind. Either Ubisoft add a Ranked Breach mode, or make it a 5 v 5 or SOMETHING. It's just not really working right now. But it's a shame because the mode could be some real fun.

I love breach, its one of my favourite mods however despite being descent enough at duels and dominion, when I first got into breach I was often useless outside of the obvious 'Push cart' 'Defend point' 'Kill Players' for quite a while. I think the main issue with breach is that it ask alot of the players whilst giving no info back, when playing breach you need to balance out; objectives, large maps, minion wave control, cart control, healing points, buffs, the guardian, oil pot, cart health/gate health, generals pushing, environmental effects AND THEN team cohesion/rampart holding-pushing/the usual high skill fighting of for honor. Which can be painful as hell to navigate when the game gives you no information upfront and DEMANDS you to learn all of these new systems without any information to help you. Even now, a hundred games in, I sometimes still dont notice the guardian has spawned until someone pings it or I run past its location. I feel breach is one of the few game-mods which need a more detailed guide or tutorial system for people getting into it.

As attackers i almost always clear the first wave of pikemen before meeting my team at rampart. Since i play alot of WM at this point im able to get poop blade in one wave and turn the fight on rampart to dust

The last point about pve and pvp variations of a game mode sharing scores and ruining matchmaking is so true. I used to rarely play duels and instead only played it against AI to farm orders. When I then decided to give it a try against real players I got absolutely stomped. Now I intentionally only play duels against real players to lower my winrate back to what it should be and farm orders against ai in brawl instead (idc about that mode). I've played like 3 real matches of breach ever but have like 20 hours of playtime just farming bots with a kd of above 5 and a winrate of above 90 percent. Can't imagine how bad it would be there. I don't understand why the scores havent been seperated for that yet. Would be so much better.

Breach is the one gamemode that reminds me a lot of arena shooters, because a big part of the mode is learning timers. If you don't know when the banner spawns, when pickups spawn, when the cauldron or ram will fire, then you're not going to know when and where to move. Meanwhile the people who do are going to run circles around you and you'll find that the things you wanted have already been picked up 30 seconds ago. I don't really know how you fix that too, putting timers all over the screen would be a mess. Maybe having a tutorial mode for it that plays like a story mode mission would be useful. Give you a familiar breach map, maybe condensing it down to one ram hit opening the gates and control points capping instantly after killing enemies, have the pickups clearly marked as objectives to go and do and structure it in a logical way that you'd play a real game (push ramparts, grab the pickups, grab the banner, kill pikes or push the cauldron, etc). That would let Ubisoft be very overt about teaching the timers for items instead of leaving players to figure it out on their own at least, even if it's not 100% comparable to a real game.

6:45 I have another theory. I think For Honor matchmaking is different from other games, other games usually try to make a balanced match by putting players of different skill levels/reps on the two teams. But instead, For Honor puts the highest skill level/highest reps on one team and the least reps/bad players on the other team (with me), this leads to terrible matches and people leaving.

The ones i hate are the ones that will sit there and watch me fight someone on the first point and once they get to one bar left they try to "help" (thirst the kill) and leave me with just as low health so when the next wave of people come back im either gonna fight 1hp or run to health leaving the shitty player by himself to fight off the entire enemy team

Breach is best gamemode when you dominate enemy team, and worst when enemy dominates you

Its funny cause most of these mistakes are straight up common sense. Yet almost every squad I get put in acts exactly like this.

Thank you Slanderous for summarizing my entire solo breach and sometimes dominion experience. The monkeys I'll get will can be like 4 times my rep at like 800 and all they do in a gank is bash, gb, and throw raw heavies for them to parry.

i have been experiencing this exact pain for years now

#2 is 100% me. That sweet pikeman renown just gives you SO much rep progress it’s nuts

I remember the time I was alone on breach every single teamate quitted and I managed to make it all the way to victory while attacking bc the enemy team sucked a$$, the bots were actually stronger and smarter than my previous team and I had a hero with fear itself to deal enough dmg to the commander. And it still was extremely difficult to do but like you said you need a miracle to do it.

Im so happy you made a video like this😂. Any time i say something in a game mad people talk sh**😂

The most infuriating thing is for sure when a teammate quit and doesn’t get replaced before first door. They should for sure add some sort of punishement like ranked with a timer if you leave no matter how.

I dont understand why some other games like FH dont introduce a league like system for quitting a game, where if you quit you're still in-game and can't start another game until the one you were in is over, with you connected or without. This helps solve 2 problems: People who disconnect due to a crash or unstable connection don't automatically lose the entire match, they can reconnect as soon as they get their internet or game fixed and continue playing the game and trying to win. and 2) people who disconnected/quit on purpose due to rage, cannot just leave and start a new match because they dont wanna play this one, they have to wait for the previous one to end, which discourages quitting, since you're gonna be stuck in the match unable to start another until you either lose or win either way.

I absolutely agree. I used to grind breach VS AI simply for the levels and armors but it got boring and I started playing breach VS players. (I’m on PC plays a lot of duels and dom and am pretty decent (like at least above average players slanderous described in the video), man like it’s either I’m just carrying the whole team with objectives and destroying the opponents until I start to feel bad, use the quick chat to instruct teammates and lower my skill level against the enemy and give kills to them so they don’t quit or feel too bad. And or the opponent can just defeat all my teammates with ease, the teammates doesn’t do objectives and we just lose. It is really annoying but like at this point it’s more like I’m just gonna not care, do what I could, listen to music in the background and just and just go with it. If my teammates are too bad and gets destroyed by opponent every single time I’ll just go farm the pikeman’s for the renowns so at least I could get something out of it..

If you’re warmonger the pikemen farmer is the most important role she has good clear and on top of that gets access to her busted ability.

as weird as it is to say i run hito in breach purely because the perks are geared towards securing executions, that and the funny button is good for dealing with commanders and guardians, and those extra executions stack up quickly, thats less time that they are a factor in the match, they cant be pulled up so they have to burn a ticket if its in the final phase, and it keeps my teammates freer to hold objectives or attack the ram

As a duel /brawls player. Thank you for helping me see that i shouldnt push ram right away. Im just used to fighting in my fighting game. Not worrying about tatics. But i guess ill stop that

The blind ape is the worst I genuinely feel like smashing my tv up playing breach being paired with people who are genuinely clueless I took all zones in breach in first gate and didn’t see any of my team mates once there just casually running. Around the map doing fuck all

2 months later and my randoms still don’t know how important the rampart is

One time my brother and I had a breach match with not just one competent teammate, but two. Seriously wild. One disconnected towards the end sadly, but we went on to barely win with the bot thanks to the massive advantage we had from competent players taking ramparts with us, clearing minions at their spawn while I boost the ram, distracting enemies when we get the offering and disrupting at the cauldron to keep our boosted ram from taking any damage. If our Raider hadn't DC'd we would have won much harder, but our bot kept feeding in the middle and losing us tickets. I think we had 26 or 24 or so when the second gate was breached.

Really nice vid, hope some people learn from this

One minor (but very annoying) detail is the damage output from Hito's 4th feat against the Commander. It's busted.

I win more matches babysitting the ram than death Ballin on the ramparts.

The Blind Ape one hurts. Not that im not guilty of... frankly, ALL of these, at least once in a while, but I've lost track of the number of times I've had to tell my team "the healing point is not an objective" and been completely ignored.

One more player to add to the roster. Imagine this situation: 3 defenders are defending the ramparts or killing pikemen, the ram is already docked and the 4th player respawns, and instrad of pouring the couldron and then leaving, he leaves without pouring it. These are the ones I despise the most.

Sometimes as a solo the best thing you can do for your team is watch the healing point, not ganking it but intercepting players trying to heal since you'll have an advantage in the 1vX or 1v1

This video is way too relatable. I met every one of the players mentioned here just last night alone

You need too defend/attack rampant but having one person to the ram now and then to stop it from moving

Don’t forget the ones who sit on the ballista and miss/hit you

I swear either everyone gets mad really early in breach or everyone's internet just dies when they play breach because everyone always leaves earlier I was playing breach with my friend and about 20 different people went through that lobby with an average time of 30 seconds per person

This has to be the most relatable for honor video

I stopped playing a year and a half ago, but i was defenetly two of these (Soloplayer and Pikeman Farmer), cause i didnt know that the archer points are actually that powerfull. But i will start playing again soon and i will do better.

Freeze made a video talking about the quitting topic, everything you said is true. The fun part is that, since they keep quitting and the game don't register defeat, the quitter will always play with the same players with the higher skill level.

the points can be applied too in ballerina and spanish tap dance melee slasher (like mordhau and chiv2). lost count how many match lose or free win whenever i see people treat fight as duel in team based mode game

It is not a theory that the bad players who dont know how to play, quit from matches where they are losing hard and stay when they are steam rolling the enemy so their MMR is inflated to absolute hell and suddenly you meet players who are going to slap you off the face of plane existence and they quit more. It is a real thing

The most annoying thing for me is when people leave. Especially when everyone leaves, it becomes a waste of time at that point. Just as a surrender option already UBI

0:51 true, i even had several "nemesises", that were decent/good players that whenever i activelly hunted or ganked they always had killstreaks + they mostly had rep 70s bps xd

El Slander: "average viewer IQ < room temperature" Huh? As an average viewer with 26 IQ I call bullshit. Get Celsius'd son. *Mandatory edit to mention that even though the average breach experience sucks nuts, the rare times we get a bromate like that Nobu, it's so heartwarming it makes you wanna play again. Almost like hitting molly once per three weeks and suffering in between, or something

I go into every MM gamemode expecting to carry because my teammates are always either trash at fighting or simply refuse to play gamemode objectives. Both do and can result in a loss.

Remember spawn tickets? Yeah my teammates used to waste them. Even though I was right next to their bodies. With rising dawn/speed revive.

To be fair if I don't attack the Guardian the enemy team will. It's not my problem that my teammates are more interested in waiting for the enemy team to respawn elinstead of playin the game.

You absolutely nailed it!!

Thank god for this video... I don't feel alone anymore 😢

Im playing breach ONLY from the first year of the game. And yes, so much I love this mode, so bad random teammates are. THey just have no idea what to do in this game mode and just doing some random things. Especially for a defenders, it's just a game 1 vs 4

Damn I thought I was going insane when I play breach but this makes a lot of since lol

Number 2, man... I've stopped playing Breach entirely because of it. I've been on attack, and had my other 3 teammates go kill minions on the Ram, while I'm 1v3, or 1v4 on the Rampart. More often than not I'm alone, or occasionally have one teammate, on the wall. It's just not worth it solo queue. You're in for a half hour of pain.

My type of experience in this is that “where is my team”

I can confirm Ubisoft uses the same KDA/VL metrics for both PvP and PvE in For Honor, and man I hate that. Chances are they don't even realize the matchmaking is working this way, or they do know but they have some lame excuse for why they don't even try to split those apart. This has led to me getting matched with people who's beyond my skill way more often than not, which makes it nearly impossible for me to do my daily orders in PvP lobbies, so I have to spend more time playing against bots in order to get them done quickly; and that only worsens the problem in the end. The matchmaking has been so wack these days, sometimes I even find people who are literally newbies with not a single completed level of renown in the game. And of course only once in a week I will stumble upon another PC player, the rest are all from consoles. So many things are so wrong with For Honor, it's hard to believe sometimes.

You forgot the "guy who doesnt kill the pikemen right next to you before you can finish a execution so you get hit out of it" guy

Ayo, what times you on to have a high activity rating in breach? I ain’t ever seen it better than low activity, much less high

By blind monkey I thought you meant blind enemies/teammates. Because I swear, I remember sitting on a Heal Point and there was an enemy shugo, standing there inside the point, with me, not realizing that we're on opposite teams

I still get Breach Ptsd when i see videos on it. Idk how many days i spent popping every xp boost imaginable, trying to party up with champion status players, farming minion spawns. Shit was the only way to level up heroes. When BP came out i played for around 30 hours straight, got to rep 16 and lost my mind. Quit For Honor and never came back to it.

Imagine playing Breach without falling sleep

I wish they had a surrender option just for the number 1 alone. So many games I'm left with bots and it's usually after the first gate. I get no new teammates and it becomes an unbearable snowball.

I dont focus on minions or anything im more focused on kills. I usually get atleast 30 kills (highest is 51) a game while my teamates get around 20 and trust me ive tried being a team player and do my best but my team never ends up helping for me its more of a 1v6 and most of the tine i get down to half health by my own teamates

well thats why i only play brawls and duels. the few times ive played dominion and breach was with friends and i let them tell me everything i should do objectivewise. im winning most fight encounters but still got carried most of the time xd. for a duel player like me breach and dominion are just so different.

Sent this vid to my 3 teammates and praying they actually understand why I yell at them

breach is also less played than dominion so the parameters may have to be extended to actually queue into a match

God we seriously need you on our team we always get at least one player on our team like this and then we have a solid 3 doing all the objectives

I don’t know man. My 13 days and 17 hours on AI breach alone really proves that I deserve my 99.79% win/loss ratio (that is my real number). Unfortunately this mode feels good to farm and I don’t really like fighting people like I used to. Just feels tedious and boring to me. Not that fighting AI doesn’t have the exact same problem, but at least I don’t have to halt my fashion progress because my matches take longer due to competent or incompetent players. My main problem as an AI breach player are the weirdos that come in and shoot people with the ballista intentionally. The people who sit there and actually afk at spawn for the entire game making you only have 2 other teammates, one most likely a bot. Then there’s the guy that hits you or kills you on purpose when you’re transporting the shield banner. It wouldn’t be so infuriating if killing my own teammates wasn’t so hard. That’s besides the point though. I will say that AI breach doesn’t really help you to know what to prioritize in PvP scenarios, but I will say it’s helped me learn the timings of the shield banner and guardian spawns. So that’s something I guess.

On the topic of breach and shit players I'd like to flex that yesterday I won 2 Breach games as defenders with 3 wm enemies, with one of them hatemailing me

I love breach. I started to play when breach ( wu lin faction) came out. I had so many insane games. I remember clearly how I played Berserker and all my team Rage quit, due to defenders easily wrecked us at the start. and I was the only one remained, and all of them(defenders)said to me in the chat so I'd run and q.q as well. No Matter that, I stayed and pushed all the way to commander ( and in the end ofc I lost due to lives ended) Regarding the people who quit I usually don't blame them. My friend I remember back in the days had some issues ( not the connection it was smth different) and after 5-10 minutes he was constantly dropping out off the game with text: left the game. As if I didn't know it was not his own decision I would think he's a rage quitter or something like that, but I knew it was not the reason, so thats why I never blame those who leave, because you never know. All the other points were 100% correct.

Been playing for a week now in solo q, now that Ubisoft finally brought it to steam deck, and I was 10000% the problematic pikemen farmer (attacker). tbf I genuinely thought the leveling up to get my characters 2nd and 3rd abilities with less effort was a smart long term play since any gank I'd be making I'd have 1 extra tool to use in a fight... but yeah then I learned keeping the ram away from the cauldron is a great move 😂

watched this video after I started my first breach game... I'm usually a Dominion player and I'm used to my enemy team being like... gods at the game, having insane reactions and insane mix-ups... not breach... I mean, my own team sucked as much as the enemy team did... but a rep 42 Kensei did the EXACT same mixup on me 4 times before dying... top heavy, right side light, top heavy feinted into dodge attack... And every time he even saw red, he'd dodge attack NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES I parried it... he'd do it again until he died... HE WAS REP 42!! I honestly had to reconsider if it was like... his brother playing... but literally every other person on the opposite team did so... A Kyoshin as well... saw red, dodge attack... even went as far as to dodge attack out of neutral to start his combo... I also experienced the tunnel vision enemy... I had low HP and the opposite team was fighting the guardian. I was low so I decided to retreat and leave it for my 2 other teammates to get some healing and a Nuxia and JJ decided to literally LEAVE the guardian to my teammates to just chase me across the map, all the way to the cauldron and back down before killing me... took them at least 2-3 minutes of just chasing me down for one kill...

One time a teammate was grieving me the whole game. In the third phase I checked my messages and he was saying stop being afk and other shit. He didn't know that standing next to the ram makes it go faster 😑 so he threw the entire game cause he felt I wasn't doing my part.

In my personal experience i hate teammates that figth over the healing zone like it was a dominion point, it's literally 1 minus teammate who never gonna move unless the door was brone and then they move to the next healing zone

What about the player that uses the balista to kill his teammates and you because you did something petty. Or the one that hits teammates out of the balista when you’re genuinely using it for intended purpose

The hito at 5:55 explains it all

Thats why you should always play with your mates

I'll also argue that there's also the bastard that, in Commander phase, will run in head first, and waste lives because they believe other than pushing the rampart or waiting for their teammates, they have it all under control.

I've straight up stopped playing Breach unless I have at least one person to matchmake with Or if it's a double XP fest, then I do like, 3 pvai matches to finish any characters that are stuck at the magic level 20 200 xp gap between reps

Slanderous: *Talks about garbage players* Also Slanderous: *Decides to execute an enemy while revenge is running out with a Warlord right behind him ready to forward dodge heavy.*

Im sorry but since skirmish isn't even possible to play anymore, I use the "blind ape" method just to completely obliterate and distract the enemy team. I usually aim for 40 kills give or take. I feel like if I can get ganked by 3 people for like 3 mins eachtime, that time adds up for my teammates to do they thing somewhere else. I get tired of do objectives especially when I notice I'm the only one. So when my team notices "hey this dude is wyling out" hopefully they'll handle the objs

I once had a match of Just Blind apes on My Team, Its Actually Just Miserable being the only one doing any objective of any kind, Having 3 Teammates just fighting one enemy building revenge over and over while the enemy team 1v3s me on the only available objective just sucks.

Happily surprised frfr😭😭

The quitter being named “Naruto” is poetic

i once play breach with hitokiri... during late game, one by one quit the game leave me with 3 bots.. with team breaking i manage to win CLUTCH by using senbonzakura their commander before i die.. mannnn it was intense

Yesterday I had a breach match, were every single teammate quit already in the first part of the match. I didnt quit bc I had orders to farm, so it essentially was a 1 vs 4 for nearly the whole match. Obviously I lost because the breach bots arent that good.

70% of my matches are me trying to push the ramparts alone. It’s why my BP KDA is so bad because I’m always having to solo the most important objective. I swear people think this game is a team death match game. As a defender, no one pushes objectives they’re always trying to kill and there’s one guy always sitting at the cauldron. Once Commander comes around, they always chase enemies down and never stay near the commander and we always lose because we’ve got one dude running circles while the rest of the attackers run down the commander or luring him out with one on a ballista. As an attacker, nobody pushes ramparts. It’s always the first rampart they push and then ignore it all. There’s usually one or two guys who try, but then they stop and it’s just a team death match at that point. After the 3-4 minute mark or the first push things just always go downhill and battle iq just gets thrown out the window. As attacked I’m always having to defend the ram because nobody clears pikemen and it’s just eternally stuck whenever I’m pushing ramparts. It’s like I can do one thing, but can’t do the other because my team is incompetent. It’s the most frustrating thing ever. What I need is a squad of my own so I can effectively communicate and negate these issues.

Well i might suck at 1v2+ situations but i have lost only 1 or 2 breach games ever

Only time I play online is with a full squad that I know is semi competent.

You get sub for that comment at 1:25 😂 facts. Brooo

I think breach would be semi fixed if the ram could only push as far as a point pushed. Team mates don't bother pushing points = no win. Encourage them to take points

For me, a player who continues to play despite the fact that his team abandoned them and he is the only one left with a group of bots earns my respect.

literally got a team full of pike farmers earlier, not a single one of them did anything besides that ☠️

I hate when my teammate is honorable, just gank the one guy before his teammates show up.

Breach is hard to play when you know your stuck with a bad team and trying to do orders at the same time

I mostly played dominion and occasionally rep farm in pve breach. Imma be honest, I suck at this game and I can't react to attacks. But what I could observe while playing doms is how people never ever put the effort into learning how to capture zones or how to efficiently clear minion lanes. Most FH players just want a team deathmatch with fast respawn, and at this point, Ubisoft should just make it a permanent game mode. I know a matchmaking game is never gonna be coordinated, but at least other games make it so that players learn quickly what to do to win. Hell, even in some games you can be doing the most useless things and still help your team win. I still want objective modes in FH. They provide context for the battles, and it gives the sense of war with aims and goals. But the meta game for the scoring systems and player's perception of value in kills vs obj score is just conflicting with one another. That's why I think we have so few good teammates in FH in matchmaking.

Totally agreed.