1930s Gearbox Bike - Restoration

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Forgotten Things

Forgotten Things

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We found this super rare German 2-Speed WW2 bicycle in the basement of an old Bavarian country house and now we're bringing it back to the road again.
The most exciting part is for sure the gearbox, which is pretty rare so see and very exciting to restore.
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Short Q&A:
- No repaint, we like the patina as it is. It also fits better into our workshop.
- Restoration is in our mind a direct action on the object with the aim of making it work again, but to keep the character of the object. In doing so, its aesthetic, historical and physical characteristics are respected as much as possible.
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Chapters:
00:00 Part 0: The Condition
00:50 Part 1: Disassembly
06:54 Part 2: Cleaning
09:31 Part 3: Preserving Patina
11:38 Part 4: Missing Parts
13:42 Part 5: Assembly
32:56 Test Ride
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 1 300
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 17 днів тому
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@denisaleksandrovich3664
@denisaleksandrovich3664 13 днів тому
HELLO! MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU GIVE SUCH A RARITY TO A MUSEUM? GREETINGS FROM RUSSIA!
@email4664
@email4664 13 днів тому
It would have been nice to see some more actual full shots of this bike
@jonascorreia2631
@jonascorreia2631 13 днів тому
😅😅😅
@ZUBRR
@ZUBRR 13 днів тому
Honda Aist better. Or Honda Casper. You can see them in RUSSIA !
@user-rg5zr6hz6r
@user-rg5zr6hz6r 13 днів тому
Старые велосипеды 50х 60 х 70 х 80 х были качествеными и простыми почти вечные у меня есть велосипед Урал 1980 г выпуска купил мне отец на день рождения на 14 лет . С того дня прошло 44 года а он до сих пор на ходу теперь уже внуки учатся на нем ездить .
@laszlofarkas9997
@laszlofarkas9997 14 днів тому
I am a retired mathematics teacher from Hungary. As a young teacher I lived in a region (Békés county) where there were as many bicycles as in the Netherlands. As I earned little money, I started repairing bicycles. I got my hands on a few pre-war bikes, most of them Sachs, and one Hercules. I have no idea how that Hercules got to Hungary. Even then I was amazed at how durable these old bikes were made of. Like here on the Wanderer, almost all the internal components just had to be cleaned out and could go back in place. The bearing bushings were still in good condition after 50-60 years, at most the bearings had to be replaced. But in the Torpedo, they didn't have to be replaced either. This Wanderer is beautiful. I enjoyed every minute of the restoration with great nostalgia. Congratulations! Beautiful job!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 14 днів тому
Thank you very much!
@bobbytheboy1
@bobbytheboy1 14 днів тому
I can tell you how that bicycle could end up in Hungary,because of collaboration with Third Reich as an ally ,don't you think that's possible.
@ZePaulo1971
@ZePaulo1971 13 днів тому
Nice history!!!
@davidburgess741
@davidburgess741 13 днів тому
And I thought I got creative restoring my '79 Dave Moulton!
@ariz0na332
@ariz0na332 13 днів тому
​​@@bobbytheboy1конечно именно так. Как и Венгерская печка для солдат третьего рейха, которая у меня на полке стоит. Котра "случайно" под Ленинградом нашлась. Как и вторая Венгерская армия в 200.000 которая почти вся осталось под Сталинградом и переводчески находим останки.
@titantitan3030
@titantitan3030 14 днів тому
In my native country, Cuba, there were and are not spare parts for anything and we had to come up with them. I was a turner and miller. I started making parts for bicycles, cars and motorcycles. I made any part or adapted it and I loved it. I emigrated. I went to the US 45 years ago and when I see almost new bicycles thrown in the trash, it makes me nostalgic and I always say, how much I would have given to have found something similar when I was a kid, today I am retired from everything, only the memories remain. I congratulate you for your talent and love dedicated to restoring something appreciated
@laserbeam1620
@laserbeam1620 14 днів тому
Great story!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@pcka12
@pcka12 13 днів тому
Some modern bikes are 'trash' from new!
@kapilsds7
@kapilsds7 13 днів тому
@@pcka12 That's the true story.
@peterparsons7141
@peterparsons7141 13 днів тому
I am just retired, i was a kid in the 60’s and 70’s (Canada). There was a group of us kids 11-14 years old who would go scrapping on garbage days(people put out trash for pickup). We had could often pickup many old bikes in the spring time, people buy new bikes and throw old ones out. We could easily put together one good bike from parts. Often these bikes would get sold 5$, and it was an ongoing thing . The bikes were nothing near the quality of these older European bikes. The bikes from the ’60’s and 70’s were the start of disposable bikes era. I have seen the complete circle of quality, and many new bikes from the 90’s onward are again made of good quality materials, and were expensive and worth repairing.
@octaviussludberry9016
@octaviussludberry9016 11 днів тому
As a museum curator, I would say you're conserving as opposed to restoring. This is what museums and galleries do - maintain what's there and if parts need replacing, they're made obvious that they're new parts. Either way, I'm a cyclist and this is totally boss.
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 14 днів тому
WOW! I've seen shaft-drive vintage bikes before but never a gearbox bike. Thanks for restoring this this marvel of German engineering.
@user-sb1uh9go9w
@user-sb1uh9go9w 11 днів тому
Добрый день, подскажи пожалуйста как этот привод работает я искал информацию и не мог найти для чего там переключение , что оно даёт, какой принцип работы?
@up.grayedd
@up.grayedd 5 днів тому
the shifter lever is so sick
@francescoparretti7793
@francescoparretti7793 16 днів тому
I’m absolutely speechless. This is not a restoration, but in my honest opinion,an heritage conservation. Amazing job. Highly professional.
@spankyjeffro5320
@spankyjeffro5320 14 днів тому
This is by definition a restoration. Don't post cringey comments.
@francescoparretti7793
@francescoparretti7793 14 днів тому
@@spankyjeffro5320 heritage conservation: definition Unfortunately, there is no single definition, because the schools of thought in restoration are diverse and especially theidea of conservative restoration varies greatly in different restoration fields. In general, however, we can say that conservation restoration is a restoration intervention thataims to consolidate the art object in order to restore its legibility and slow down its degradation. The basic idea of heritage conservation is to restore the existing, without reconstructing what has been lost. For example: An affresco where part of the plaster has come off and 30% of the work has been lost (permanently). If we were to do a conservative restoration to the affresco, the restorer will be responsible for securing the 70% of the fresco that is left, taking care that there are no new detachments and restoring the colors of the time by trying to use the same materials. However, the restorer will not go and "redesign" the 30 percent of the affresco that was destroyed. As we said in heritage conservation one must deal with the existing, what remains. I personally think that you are a person without arguments who is just looking for visibility, but that is essentially your problem.
@ArmoredsoldierCZ
@ArmoredsoldierCZ 14 днів тому
@@spankyjeffro5320 This dude woke up to be toxic for no reason. They said their OPINION (which you may never heard of before) and they still praised their work. So yea, dont post toxic comments. Thank you for your cooperation.
@Dead_Ringer
@Dead_Ringer 14 днів тому
I was going to comment similarly, you express it better though. I was itching to get out the spraying gear and give it a lick of fresh paint :D
@donovangibson7765
@donovangibson7765 14 днів тому
@@spankyjeffro5320 You're joking... Right? There's no new paint, the parts weren't brought back to factory condition before reassembly... The only cringey comment here is yours.
@hamongog
@hamongog 14 днів тому
A 1930's bike restored in a 1930's bike shop replete with a drawer full of bicycle components from the 1930's? You've got my attention and subscription!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@eternaloptimist2840
@eternaloptimist2840 13 днів тому
Yeah but did you see the KMC chain that came out of the Wippermann tin?
@BrainHurricanes
@BrainHurricanes 11 днів тому
@@eternaloptimist2840 Ssssst don't ruin it now.
@drider43
@drider43 10 днів тому
@@eternaloptimist2840 Kinda makes you wonder what else isn't what it appears.
@thomasschultz2669
@thomasschultz2669 12 днів тому
Wunderschönes Fahrrad! Danke für das Video! Das war erstklassige Arbeit.👍
@RussianIvan
@RussianIvan 14 днів тому
Почему сейчас не делают велосипеды с таким редуктором? Каждый раз убеждаюсь что раньше технологии и качество были лучше чем сейчас! Сейчас даже в самых дорогих велосипедах нет такого качества и эстетики деталей. За реставрацию и хорошую сьемку большое спасибо посмотрел с огромным удовольствием !
@user-tu3yq8iz1s
@user-tu3yq8iz1s 14 днів тому
Россия... Про какие велосипеды и их изготовление в росии можно говорить,, когда в России разрушены трактный заводы, автомобильные заводы Зил, комбайновый заводы, мотоциклетный завод ИЖ, и наконец АВИАЦИОНЫЙ ЗАВОД.... 😲
@RussianIvan
@RussianIvan 14 днів тому
@@user-tu3yq8iz1s я не про Россию я вообще про весь мир сейчас даже топовые когда то бренды делают фигню, про Россию и говорить нечего даже иголки и те не делают ...
@andrei-st4qj
@andrei-st4qj 14 днів тому
​@@user-tu3yq8iz1sА кто об этом позаботился ? Ни запад ли , когда Горбачёв перестройку надумал , а алкаш Ельцин остатки пропил , запад всегда врагом был , посмотрите историю , они к нам с мечём шли, а не мы!!!!
@agnomenincognita3896
@agnomenincognita3896 13 днів тому
Если вы имеете ввиду компоновку, то похожее называется pinion ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gZ-IpHyDnXeL0mg.html
@PONCHIK2079
@PONCHIK2079 13 днів тому
​@@user-tu3yq8iz1s это старая методичка😂😂😂
@AustinWF1988
@AustinWF1988 16 днів тому
It's a little surprising to me seeing how many specialty tools are needed to do a job like this properly. Good work, I can see how satisfying it could be.
@geraldrohe8669
@geraldrohe8669 16 днів тому
Wunderbares Fahrrad. Relativ selten. Es wurden meines Erachtens lediglich 999 Stück mit diesem Zweigang-Getriebe produziert. Ich selbst habe für mich ein Adler 3-Gang-Getriebe Fahrrad von 1939 restauriert und habe meine Freude daran. Die Entwicklung des Getriebe dürfte aus dem Automobilbereich herrühren. Sehr schöne Restauration, auch dass die Patina erhalten bleibt. Die Geschichte soll ja sichtbar bleiben. Bitten weitere solche Restaurationen veröffentlichen. Sehr interessant zu sehen.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 15 днів тому
Danke für das Lob!
@isarwasser5271
@isarwasser5271 13 днів тому
---Wunderbares Fahrrad--- Aber sowas von! Adler ist auch Top. Danke für diesen Kommentar.
@__-lb6sf
@__-lb6sf 13 днів тому
Nur den argen Höhenschlag an den Felgen hätte er auch noch ausbügeln können ( Min.23:05). Die ovalen Aluscheiben, die unter die Speichennippel verbaut wurden, gehören mit der längeren Seite in Fahrtrichtung, die sind vorgerundet somit dürften die nicht willkürlich verbaut werden. Ansonsten kann man nicht maulen. 😊
@Digging_Kangaroo
@Digging_Kangaroo 12 днів тому
I love how you restored it but left the original beauty and character .
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you!😎
@Jack233
@Jack233 12 днів тому
This bicycle is a product of Wanderer-Werke AG Chemnitz, which, in addition to bicycles, also manufactured motorcycles, cars, delivery vans and office machines. In 1932, Wanderer became part of Auto Union AG and was represented in its logo by one of four rings, just like Audi, Horch and DKW. From 1965 onwards (until today), only the name Audi was used, but the Auto Union logo was retained. The Wanderer-Werke factory in Chemnitz still exists to this day, but sadly has long been left behind and is slowly falling apart. Bicycles are still sold under the name Wanderer, but those have nothing to do with the original company, only the naming rights are used. Interestingly enough, Chemnitz has been chosen as the European Capital of Culture 2025.
@Maximovich79
@Maximovich79 13 днів тому
Честь и хвала автору за его знания и труды. Приятно видеть что есть люди, которые могут сохранить и реставрировать историю
@user-jo9xq3cl6e
@user-jo9xq3cl6e 12 днів тому
человек молодец
@XaLi_GaLi
@XaLi_GaLi 12 днів тому
Впервые вижу вел с такой кпп) Это что, двухскоростная? Типа, пониженная в горку, и прямая для ровных дорог?
@XaLi_GaLi
@XaLi_GaLi 12 днів тому
18:30 а вот это он зря) Необдуманный шаг! Если придётся снова разбирать, то понадобится ах рен еть какой мощный съёмник. Лучшее - враг хорошего! Там достаточно парочка ударов молотком и резбового прижима фиксирующими гайками. Рядовой велосипедист ремонтирует всегда "на коленке", в дороге, или просто во дворе. И точно также, при помощи молотка, но уже боковыми ударами, демонтирует шатуны. Автор тут явно переусердствовал с прессом🥴
@asarasswat593
@asarasswat593 12 днів тому
Оказывается когда я в детстве перебирал свой велик для смазки и чистки я его реставрировал... Я понять не могу как это можно назвать реставрацией, у меня бы рука не поднялась оставить раму и др. элементы в таком виде имея такую мастерскую.
@Maximovich79
@Maximovich79 12 днів тому
@@asarasswat593 не помню как называется, но в этом особый смысл, оставить все максимально аутентичным.
@hechtfreundau4363
@hechtfreundau4363 17 днів тому
Endlich wieder eine schöne Fahrradrestauration, und dann auch noch ein Wanderer Getrieberad. Traumhafter Patina-Zustand und ein sehr schöner Strahlenkopf. Ich weiß was dazugehört, so ein Schmuckstück mit Sachverstand wieder auf die Straße zu bringen, bin aber trotzdem immer von eurer sauberen und präzisen Arbeit beeindruckt. Danke für die schönen Videos!😊
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 16 днів тому
Vielen Dank für das Lob!😊
@slimboyde
@slimboyde 14 днів тому
Wanderer-2, what a great find. Thank you for sharing. Here the engeneer had no limits when constructing this gearbox in the optimal position. In the 1930ies bicycles were extremly expensive, about two month pay of a skilled worker. And this one was certainly much more expensive. So they could build them so durable.
@ducatisti
@ducatisti 15 днів тому
That gearbox and clutch unit are a thing of beauty!
@user-bp2yq8yg8x
@user-bp2yq8yg8x 13 днів тому
Гениальный инженер прошлого и умелый реставратор современности сделали прекрасный вечер на You tube 😊
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😃
@user-yv2cz8oj1k
@user-yv2cz8oj1k 14 днів тому
Love how new bike companies pretend to have invented something new, then it turns up on a 90-130 year old bike. That includes bottom bracket gearboxes, oval rings, and shaft drives.
@SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
@SubramaniamLakshminarayanan 13 днів тому
They're betting on the assumption that people wouldn't know of 130-year-old bike design technologies.
@asonetuh6094
@asonetuh6094 13 днів тому
What absolutely floored me is seeing aerodynamic tri-spoke and disk wheels more than a 100 years ago. No wind tunnels or CAD - just scientific principles and intuitive design.
@ClifftopTragedy
@ClifftopTragedy 13 днів тому
Shut up and buy our next product !
@SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
@SubramaniamLakshminarayanan 13 днів тому
@@ClifftopTragedy - you are contradicting yourself. I can either shut up or buy the next product, can't do both.
@jean-pierredecouvreur9500
@jean-pierredecouvreur9500 11 днів тому
​@ClifftopTragedy... and expect to throw it out shortly after the (usually very short) warranty expires!
@user-el9ep2lp7j
@user-el9ep2lp7j 13 днів тому
Wow, my face was frozen watching your video, my jaw dropped to the floor. Amazing, precise engineering to preserve and give life to another piece of history. My respect.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you very much!
@lcatraz2919
@lcatraz2919 12 днів тому
German army ww2 driving Wanderer bikes..
@watchyourselfishness
@watchyourselfishness 12 днів тому
Out of all the tools and technique in this video, the most impressive is that third hand tool. They are most useful for an extra thumbs up!
@antoniom.andersen6704
@antoniom.andersen6704 13 днів тому
As a former bicycle mechanic here in Denmark I think this was a wonderful job
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@BrownPeterAnthony
@BrownPeterAnthony 12 днів тому
Really nice seeing a bike restored rather than trashed, it must have been the Grand Tourer of the time.
@bm4751
@bm4751 13 днів тому
Amazing project, thank you
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you too!😅
@jan_pierre3138
@jan_pierre3138 12 днів тому
In addition to the forgotten things, you also revive our forgotten memories, thank you very much 🙏🏼
@tyreni
@tyreni 13 днів тому
That was amazing! All through the 90s I was the neighborhood bike guy and repaired/restored hundreds of them. You have all the equipment and experience I could only dream of. Your process and attention to detail is excellent, and the editing was superb.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@FernandoBR1951
@FernandoBR1951 14 днів тому
Ready for the next 100 years .Fantastic job.
@cnielsen2006
@cnielsen2006 11 днів тому
Holy cow. No lead in animation, preview, preview review etc. etc. Just the stuff in the title. Nicely done!
@mclagett1043
@mclagett1043 12 днів тому
Incredible videography! I LOVE all your old tools and carts... I also love that you leave the most important part of the bike fully in tact, the story told through the patina... Nicely done sir...
@Andre-vz1iw
@Andre-vz1iw 13 днів тому
What a joy to watch the Wanderer in his resurrection. Thank you for the great Video.
@MarkoVukovic0
@MarkoVukovic0 12 днів тому
What a wonderful old machine, and so expertly restored. Great job on the pedal design. Beautifully photographed also, you have many talents. Thank you for sharing!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@tingeltangel5375
@tingeltangel5375 13 днів тому
Selten so etwas schönes gesehen. Mir fehlen die Worte!!!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Vielen Dank!
@Julitokiss
@Julitokiss 12 днів тому
This is a marterpiece in all the ways possible. I enjoyed every second. The amount of time, time, knowledge and resources used in this video is breathtaking. Thank you and Congratulations 👏🏼
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you very much!😊
@user-vc4rc7fh5r
@user-vc4rc7fh5r 13 днів тому
Прекрасная реставрация! Огромное благодарность за Вашу работу! С большим уважением! Здоровья и удачи!
@marcusathome
@marcusathome 15 днів тому
Underneath all that grime and dirt, that bike is i surprisingly good shape. Great job to bring it back to life!
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 14 днів тому
The bike has obviously been repaired and worked on over the decades, I'd say it has sat somewhere in someone's shed for 20 years (likely a relative who inherited it)
@marcusathome
@marcusathome 13 днів тому
@@SilvaDreams these old bikes are built like and as long as you keep it greased, it's good to ride. This bike is so unique with the gearbox and better alternatives available from the '50s onwards, I think it wasn't used at least for the last 50 - 60 years. Paint job definitely is original with its decals.
@user-hq4sb6yu4i
@user-hq4sb6yu4i 12 днів тому
I love bicycles, especially those that were made in England. i never seen this one before. However, those were the days when a washer, bolt, and nut up were well made, built to last. Those were the days when engineers and designers were confident in their craftsmanship and put their names on their product. I love this bicycle and wish to have one like it I like the spoke nipple key sannper. These days they build products in such a way, you just purchase it from the store to the repair shop. I think they should make these bike again Products that were made years ago last for hundreds of years. These days, they blew in seconds.
@franktuckwell196
@franktuckwell196 12 днів тому
Magnificent. Who knew bikes had gears then and there?
@rwes61
@rwes61 13 днів тому
Probably one of the best and well thought out restoration videos I have seen in my 63 years!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Wow thank you very much for that feedback!
@tomeksz7203
@tomeksz7203 13 днів тому
He didn't do anything here... He didn't even give it new paint. He took it apart and put it back together... What is there to admire?
@andy_liga
@andy_liga 12 днів тому
@@tomeksz7203 Unfortunataly I have to agree, the video is amazing, but as someone with quite a bit of mechanical background I struggled to watch in some instances. Especially the hydraulic press for crankarms made me cry inside, pressing a square taper like that pretty much bonds it forever if ANY amount of rust forms, cranks are meant to be press in place with the bolt/nut retaining them; using an hydraulic press (even if antiseize/grease was applied to the mating surfaces) will just scrap the shaft for any future disassembly. Again, amazing bike and video, but only ppl with no mechanical experience can just be amazed without having some bone-chilling instances during the video.
@randall1959
@randall1959 12 днів тому
I like how you restored the functionality without destroying the patina.
@kamilkusior4670
@kamilkusior4670 13 днів тому
This material is a work of art. A pleasure to watch
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you!😎
@scummy73dude64
@scummy73dude64 14 днів тому
The 3rd hand made me laugh so hard..😂 Well done mate. 👍
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
😂👌🏼 thank you!
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 15 днів тому
This is awesome, never seen a bicycle design anything like this. Even the braking mechanism is cool.👍
@unknownnothx2093
@unknownnothx2093 4 дні тому
I don't know much about bicycles but it gave me satisfaction
@user-kk3fc2mx2b
@user-kk3fc2mx2b 12 днів тому
Que excelente bicicleta! Fabricaban obras de arte y mucha tecnología en esos años. El trabajo de restauracion espectacular...
@user-dm4nk6gh3b
@user-dm4nk6gh3b 13 днів тому
Да, в 30- годы, это супер и в наши дни. А качество деталей!!! Super 💯💯💯!!!
@evgeniydragondog
@evgeniydragondog 13 днів тому
Thanks for no dumb music and not re-painting bike!
@cosmefulanito5933
@cosmefulanito5933 13 днів тому
Not a restoration video.
@ChrisB...
@ChrisB... 5 днів тому
As of this year all of my bike bearings are sealed, end of an era. That bike is amazing!
@01sidiropoulos
@01sidiropoulos 12 днів тому
I love people telling their stories in the comments ❤❤.. Nice video man..
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 13 днів тому
So old and still a better base design than most new stuff.
@andy_liga
@andy_liga 12 днів тому
Well, that's very personal... Modern bikes are, questionably, overly fragile and maybe overly expensive, but this bike (with all due respect) holds nothing against even the most basic modern steel frame in terms of design/weight/confort/geometry. It's a spectacle to watch such a beutiful bike being preserved, but I wouln't go as far as to call it "better than most modern stuff". Gearboxes are sure reliable and amazing, but you can fix a modern drivetrain roadside with a 100g multitool, not so much for a gearbox.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 12 днів тому
@@andy_liga You don't understand what a base design is, do you? I never said the bike was better than modern ones. If you're over about twelve years old your teachers are probably to blame.
@andy_liga
@andy_liga 12 днів тому
@@siraff4461 wow, someone got offended here... would you mind explaining what do you mean by "base design"? Do you mean the fact that everything in this bike is over-constructed and probably gonna outlast humanity itself? Do you mean the geometry of the bike? Cause yeah, I mean, this looks like any other upright comfy bike geometry out there, there hasn't been any real breakthrough in the geometry of upright city bikes in the last 100years. Do you mean the fact that the rear triangle is removable? That's a crappy design used solely to help manufacturing by introducing a significant error tolerance in the design, as shown in the video, it often cracks, due to the stress raisers in some spots, mainly the bolt/bolt eyelet and connecting pieces. Are you wow-ed by the fact that the tubes from the front triangle aren't welded/braised but bolted to the headtube/BB/seatstay? Again, manufacturing aid, welding a flat triangle can be very challenging without introducing some warp or deformation, especially with the rudimentary metallurgy we had back then for civilian applications, like making a "mundane bike". Old bikes aren't better than new ones in any measurable way (few exceptions aside like the Lotus 108 maybe), sure they can be pretty and I agree with that, but still... Btw I'm way older than 12yo. At that age, while you were blaming the teachers, I was busy learning mechanical engineering from my grampa :P
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 12 днів тому
@@andy_liga "learning mechanical engineering" yet you don't even understand the concept of design basics vs overall performance. Some of the concepts (base design) of this bike are better in a lot of ways than most new ones. That doesn't mean it works better. It doesn't mean its a better product. It means the ideas behind it are better. For instance having a sealed gearbox allows better lubrication without dirt or water ingress along with allowing for a much stronger gearset in a much smaller area. It also means the chain can be solid which reduces component count and increases reliability vs a derailer or even a sprung tensioner. It also allows a thinner driveline which allows a thinner frame throw and therefore increased strength per weight. There are numerous other advantages like shorter cable length vs a rear cassette, not having to spin every gear regardless of which is engaged, less unsprung weight if you're using rear suspension, a smaller rear spindle width which again reduces unsprung weight and increases strength per size, potentially less aero drag because there aren't multiple gear wheels and an s-bend in the flow - along with the thinner crank allowing the same and on and on it goes. Of course you knew that with your "mechanical engineering" background, right? Just because it was made a long time back using the materials and techniques of the day doesn't mean something newer is automatically a better design. Simply throwing some Shimano kit on a basic triangle for a frame is much cheaper and easier but that only makes it better if you buy into the advertising. Why would a modern company throw a load of r&d into something when they can sell something very similar to last years for a nice bump to people like you who don't understand that a carbon frame actually isn't that expensive or hard to make?
@andy_liga
@andy_liga 12 днів тому
@@siraff4461 I mean, I'm not here for a confrontation, I wasn't here for that to begin with either... but yeah, that's what you get when you start talking to strangers on the internet sometimes. Anyway, yeah, you pointed out how gearboxes are more reliable (as I stated earlier), that the this bikes design as a whole isn't bad (as I stated earlier) and that most new bike are overpriced/overly fragile (as I stated earlier). I mean, yeah, I don't understand where this whole aggression is coming from (I would understand if you would be the CEO of Pinion, but I wasn't shitting on gearboxes either). Btw I do get that you have strong opinions (since you sound like a smart person, sincerely) I just don't agree with the way of communicating them :) [EDIT] minor spelling
@pofrof4910
@pofrof4910 13 днів тому
It is lovely to watch all the vintage scenario specially those boxes inside that drawer. beautiful.
@Tom-Lahaye
@Tom-Lahaye 13 днів тому
Very well conserved time piece from a time when bicycles for everyday use were still a high quality item. I learned my first mechanics working on such bicycles and the nice thing was that you could repair everything on these. Back in the 1970s and 80s you would get most of the small parts like the BBs or the cups they go in, the splines and so much more. Today you have to replace the whole assembly when something breaks, and often it is not worth doing that anymore unless you have an high end sports bike.
@LFKGooner
@LFKGooner 9 днів тому
This is history in the making. Much love from Rwanda 🇷🇼
@OliverReilly1
@OliverReilly1 13 днів тому
Man blows peoples minds by cleaning and servicing a bike. 🧐
@christopherbrubaker2070
@christopherbrubaker2070 12 днів тому
It’s pretty amazing that most of the same engineering has lasted so long and not changed much. It’s a modern connection to the past, but I’ve never seen the gear box before. I found it nostalgic and an honorable way to spend time.
@OliverReilly1
@OliverReilly1 12 днів тому
@@christopherbrubaker2070 yes, I agree with that, but he never restored it. The title is misleading. This is not a restoration. It’s a service and a clean no matter how much you butter it up
@christopherbrubaker2070
@christopherbrubaker2070 11 днів тому
@@OliverReilly1 Oh right, ok I got ya. Yah I don’t like misleading titles either. I wonder if I would have clicked on “ hey I’m polishing my bicycle” though. Lol but yah I can see what you meant.
@OliverReilly1
@OliverReilly1 11 днів тому
@@christopherbrubaker2070 to be honest, I would have clicked it just to see the gearbox as I’ve never seen one before like yourself, but I felt disappointed that he didn’t fully restore it, but I also respect he kept the character of the bike. Mechanical restoration would have been a more fitting title
@nozbodbubba1739
@nozbodbubba1739 16 днів тому
Beautiful restoration, the quality of the components have stood the test of time with little to no wear compared to their modern equivalents'. I see where the German company Pinion have taken their inspiration for their modern bicycle gearbox design from. 🙂
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 16 днів тому
Thank you! Interesting that this is used in modern bikes as well. Did not know about that
@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
@kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 12 днів тому
@@forgottenthings The rebirth is quite new, since the 1990s Schlumpf offers a gearbox but that seems to have only two gears so that it's often combined with a gear hub, but seems to be mostly used on recumbent bicycles (Liegeräder). And Pinion began around 2006 but the first gearbox was introduced in 2011. Similar to the Rohloff Speedhub it also seems to be very pricey, couldn't find exact figures, but the 12-speed C1.12 seems to cost around a thousand bucks, I got a Gudereit Bike with that transmission leased since August and with a MSRP of 3000€ it was seemingly one of the cheapest bikes that use Pinion. I guess compared to that a full Shimano XT 12-speed kit (crank, chain, rear derailleur, cassette, shifter) won't cost you more than 500 bucks. And at first glance you may also confuse it with an Electric middle motor by Bosch, Yamaha or Shimano.
@wojciechorowski5453
@wojciechorowski5453 12 днів тому
Rusty but beautiful, great job, you gave it a new life. Respect.
@DawnUSNvet
@DawnUSNvet 10 днів тому
Beautiful restoration/preservation of a 100 year old bicycle. Thank you 😊
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 10 днів тому
Thank you too😊
@user-fb1dg8yq3u
@user-fb1dg8yq3u 14 днів тому
About 100 years. Amazing. Good job!
@woopimagpie
@woopimagpie 14 днів тому
Keeping everything super original was beautifully done. It really pays respect to the life that bicycle has had. Going back to bare metal and new paint to make it look new again is all well and good, and with many restorations there isn't a choice, but I think I'd prefer this.
@solkim133
@solkim133 10 днів тому
my favourite part is the "Third Hand" magically appearing at 30:40. Seriously the whole video is a masterpiece. Big thank you for sharing.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 10 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@mansurazeez2229
@mansurazeez2229 13 днів тому
This is a 'super' bike! ... beautifully- made and will last forever! 👍💪
@charlesdemey421
@charlesdemey421 12 днів тому
I love the way you filmed this. The details you filmed and every step it take to dismount, restore and assemble the bicycle. It must have taken a lot of efford to do it and above all to film it this way. Keep up the good work.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you!😎
@michaelwegscheider8656
@michaelwegscheider8656 17 днів тому
What an awesome journey and restauration! Amazing what bikes they built in this time.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 17 днів тому
Pleasure to hear that! We´re glad our style of restoring forgotten things gets that feedback!
@Jerry1664Bnez
@Jerry1664Bnez 15 днів тому
Restoring or just cleaning 😂😂bad job's
@erdalokan8896
@erdalokan8896 12 днів тому
One of the most perfect videos I've had the pleasure of watching recently. Amazing effort.👍👏👏
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 12 днів тому
Thank you very much!😊
@qbitsday3438
@qbitsday3438 12 днів тому
Excellent ! the job looks like the MASKED MAGICIAN !
@user-gh9et7yo6c
@user-gh9et7yo6c 12 днів тому
Прекрасная работа,спасибо что вы есть,такую историю нужно сохранять.👍🤝
@danjohnston3422
@danjohnston3422 16 днів тому
A handsome thing, thoughtfully and respectfully brought back to life. Very well done.
@Suavache
@Suavache 12 днів тому
Stunned by the car. At my grandfather's age, he is a very good car restorer. Very interesting video, thank you for sharing.
@jluttr9808
@jluttr9808 11 днів тому
Such an amazing video! To see the respect of the old (ww2?) tools, work bench, bike frame holder, with carbon 3d is a gift. More than excellent restoration to protect a piece of functional art. I loved how silent the bike was after completion, like a ghost, that's a perfect bike IMHO. Thank you!
@Bluepeter62
@Bluepeter62 15 днів тому
Good job👍 I am a collector of those gearbox bikes. I have a 4-speed COSMOS (Sport AG, Biel), 4-speed RAPPA (Rapperswil), 3-speed MUTAPED (Sport AG, Biel), and 3-speed ANKER Berg- und Talfahrrad (Bielefeld). BRENNABOR (Brandenburg) was another Manufacturer of those Bikes.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 15 днів тому
Thank you! Nice collection!
@TailSpinRCSpain
@TailSpinRCSpain 14 днів тому
What a strange machine, never seen so many left-hand threads. Those cast alloy frame lugs are over the top. Nice restoration job !
@eddiexxxx
@eddiexxxx 13 днів тому
Without a shadow of a doubt, The Best entertaining, educational and absorbing video I have ever watched. Thank you.
@ajmalazad3772
@ajmalazad3772 10 днів тому
This Gentleman's Effort is Priceless To Make This Possibly As Original As It was.
@JJ62
@JJ62 17 днів тому
Some very interesting design features on that bike. I’d like to know more about the freewheel mechanism on the Torpedo coaster brake, and I’ve never seen that type of gearbox on a bicycle before, that’s remarkable. I shall look into that model of bike and learn more about it. I liked your home-made crank puller too, very clever. I’m also sure that there was a lot of pre-preparation before the strip-down, there is no way some of those nuts and bolts came apart so easily with just a squirt of WD-40! I’d have also used anti-seize or copaslip on every one of those fixings, especially the stem, seatpost and pedals. I’ve done a few vintage bike restorations and none of them have come apart that easily! But that was a very interesting 30 minutes, thank you!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 16 днів тому
Thank you! You find more information about that model by searching for "Wanderer Getrieberad". A very interesting competitor at that time is also the "Adler Getrieberad" which even features a 3-speed gearbox. You can find more information regarding the Torpedo hub at scheunenfun.de/explosionszeichnung.htm. The website is a little bit messy, but the information is really good. You got us, some parts were really stuck and took a lot of WD-40 and time. Nevertheless, it came apart more easily than we are used to.
@caroleast9636
@caroleast9636 14 днів тому
Agreed. After many frustrating fights to separate parts without destroying them, I would always use Coppaslip (or similar products) when reassembling. That’s not going against originality. That’s just good common sense.
@user-jq2rf4nf3o
@user-jq2rf4nf3o 16 днів тому
A piece of history indeed - beautiful
@loganireland3113
@loganireland3113 10 днів тому
thank you for preserving the history and not just stripping it and painting over everything
@all-to
@all-to 13 днів тому
It's like going back 100 years. It's beautiful.
@arthurn9237
@arthurn9237 14 днів тому
OH MY THANK YOU SIR FOR THST VIEW INTO YOUR DRAWES YOU HAVE SOME MOST INTERESTING JUNK IN THERE SUCH AS THE WIPPERMAN BOX WITH CHAIN ALONG WITH OTHER BOXES OF BICYCLE PARTS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ! I REMAINED RIVITED TO YOUR VIDEO AND ENJOYED IT TO THA END 👍👍 ALL THA BEST FROM FLA. U S A
@HanstheTraffer
@HanstheTraffer 15 днів тому
Beautiful bicycle ...even more beautiful work. Thanks for posting this. Subscribed!
@More-Space-In-Ear
@More-Space-In-Ear 13 днів тому
I love the vintage tools you used, when I say vintage I mean around 40+ year old tools...wonderful restoration, well done
@gival2854
@gival2854 13 днів тому
I do that with an Automoto 1954 2 speed andle , 200h work... Great job dude, respect from france!!! :)
@kevinsellsit5584
@kevinsellsit5584 14 днів тому
Instant subscribe! Spectacular. The amount of machine work on this bike really shines.
@PaulG.x
@PaulG.x 14 днів тому
17:50 Tip: If you need to impregnate a felt or sintered part with oil , you can immerse it in a jar with the lubricant in it and draw a vacuum on the jar. This will extract the air from the porous part and the oil will replace the air.
@iggysixx
@iggysixx 12 днів тому
Cool. I've seen (and worked on) a lot of bicycles, including one from the 1910s. Of course, also a lot with 'solid state' connections to the brakes (with metal rods, rather than cables). Never seen this gear thing before, though. And I have to say - it might seem like it's super crusty and rusted, but this is in very good shape indeed. Must have been well maintained over the years, and sheltered from the rain.
@Putt-Putt-Vroom
@Putt-Putt-Vroom 13 днів тому
Such a cool piece of history and unique gearbox. Amazing job and thank you for sharing!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@marktalbott3835
@marktalbott3835 17 днів тому
I've been a bicycle mechanic for 30 years. On and off. I think everybody knows how that goes. This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen. I had no idea this kind of mechanism existed back then. Remarkable.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 16 днів тому
Thank you for your comment! A company called Adler had a similiar model, but with a more complicated three-speed gearbox. Bicycle history is super interesting!
@My_Op
@My_Op 16 днів тому
Bike mechanic (on and off too) and I have to say you're a source of inspiration to me: I guess you realize my dreams, f*cking satisfying to see
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 16 днів тому
@@My_Op Wow! Thank you for your comment!!
@wallpurgesnight8209
@wallpurgesnight8209 16 днів тому
@Mark - Why do you feel the need to use such words? Are you 12?
@Kurt-tq6ew
@Kurt-tq6ew 16 днів тому
I’ve got a gearbox bike from 1908. And it still works perfectly.
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 14 днів тому
Good looking, well put together, smooth and quiet, turned out really very good, visually impressive, not to mention good technology. Oh yeah, the bike was good too!
@fredrikvanlienden6749
@fredrikvanlienden6749 16 днів тому
Great job and a very nicely filmed video to boot! Some of the details on that old wanderer are stunning, the saddle with it's complicated springs, the "W" in the main chain-gear, the bolted rear frame. Thanks for sharing!
@user-lb7fs9db3f
@user-lb7fs9db3f 13 днів тому
Чудо какое ! Смотрел как заворожённый за ходом работ . Невероятное зрелище - такой старый аппарат . Огромное счастье и удача что попал велосипед правильному Человеку в правильные Руки . What a miracle ! I watched as if fascinated by the progress of the work . It 's an incredible sight - such an old device . It is a great happiness and luck that the bike got into the right Hands for the right Person.
@christianmontagx8461
@christianmontagx8461 11 днів тому
Thanks for showing us the passion and love you put into restoring high-tech of the last century to keep it alive and convert it into living history. It shows that our ancestors didn't life in caves hundret years ago :) Good work. I don't understand the over 3500 negative votes.
@christianmontagx8461
@christianmontagx8461 11 днів тому
Wanderer, another east-german bike producer that went insolvent in the 2005-2010. "Ein Schelm, der da böses denkt..."
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 11 днів тому
Thank you!😊
@giangipoli3760
@giangipoli3760 13 днів тому
I like so much how you have managed to preserve the signs of time on this nice bike. Very different from the restorations you often see around here, that destroys everything to get just a fake new.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you!😃
@HermanOtto-wr2nn
@HermanOtto-wr2nn 17 днів тому
Witam z Polski piękny rower łącznie z super pracą , to nie sztuka wypolerować elementy ma tak być jak obecnie zachowana starość trzeba to czuć pozdrawiam oczywiście zostawiłem łapkę w górę miłego dnia
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 17 днів тому
Thank you!
@user-qd7ok7fu7i
@user-qd7ok7fu7i 13 днів тому
Восстановить так как он есть в быту того времени. Это просто потресающи. 👏👏👏
@humungusfungus6861
@humungusfungus6861 13 днів тому
Genial!! Tolles Ergebnis, die Basis ist natürlich auch klasse!! Schöne Werkstatt!!
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Vielen Dank 👍
@iraqisonic9920
@iraqisonic9920 14 днів тому
أنا مشترك جديد من العراق واحب اعمالك
@user-xh5kx4mi1h
@user-xh5kx4mi1h 16 днів тому
думаю такой экземпляр после реставрации стоит тысяч 5 евро?
@johanjanssens4530
@johanjanssens4530 15 днів тому
Ya dumaiou 15.000
@user-xh5kx4mi1h
@user-xh5kx4mi1h 15 днів тому
@@johanjanssens4530 нееее, 15.000 дорого, может и 5.000 дорого. Пусть автор раскроет тайну.
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 15 днів тому
More like around 2000 euro
@peeps124
@peeps124 13 днів тому
What a beautifully made machine, it must have been a quality bicycle in its day. Great work conserving it!
@warthogoftheyear
@warthogoftheyear 13 днів тому
What an amazing work, man! Can't decide the video cutting, or the restoration is the more perfect thing. I am also amazed by your vintage tools, boxes, sets of parts, furnitures. It really brought me back to the '30s. This was the first restoration video that i was watching from the first to the last second. Thanks for the experience, greetings from Hungary! Subscribed for sure...
@forgottenthings
@forgottenthings 13 днів тому
Thank you very much!!
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k 16 днів тому
Хм, а мне эта КПП нравится больше, чем современные системы)
@user-gx7qo2fi7x
@user-gx7qo2fi7x 13 днів тому
И тяжелее это всё на 20 кг.
@dmitriyminor4875
@dmitriyminor4875 10 днів тому
Судя по всему Вы разбираетесь в вопросе, я правильно понял, что тут основной режим это прямая передача, а при переключении зацепляется 4я шестерня и получается понижающий редуктор?)
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k 10 днів тому
@@dmitriyminor4875 , судя по видео - да: прямая + понижающая.
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k
@c.k.e.n.T.u.k 10 днів тому
@@user-gx7qo2fi7x , а что не на полтонны сразу? :) Норм всё с весом. + ещё и так основательно, что сломать очень постараться нужно.
@user-gx7qo2fi7x
@user-gx7qo2fi7x 10 днів тому
@@c.k.e.n.T.u.k Передёргивать не надо. Этот железный драндулет с фарой от мопэда и весом как у мопэда.
@sidneyalves1556
@sidneyalves1556 8 днів тому
what an incredible video! high quality resolution. incredible tools.
@volodymyrbabenko5594
@volodymyrbabenko5594 13 днів тому
Just an amazing restoration, high-quality retro, I have never seen such a speed switch in my life. The quality is beyond praise!
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