They may be wrong but you gotta at least give them an applause for that clean animation

But something to note: What the dev said doesn't invalidate the theories, REALLY. The dev is a Christian, clearly stated in his bio. This probably made people wonder if DOORS would take on a CHRISTIAN/Religious context. However, it could not! Many traits of entities in DOORS including the curious and guiding light (being angels, as suspected) or the entities being demons and homunculi contradict what we know in the Bible entirely. Let me say this: Demons, angels, baptism and crosses are items from religion, (which already contradicts the Tweet suggesting the game won't take a religious direction, it's already too late for that...) but those items and the presence of demonic and angelic figures do not make something "Christian." Think about all the non-Christian media that uses angels and demons. Those entities did originate from the Bible, but not every time they are depicted in media are they "Christian"... i.e. Biblical. All that being said, I don't think Game Theory's theory is wrong at all. I also don't think DOORS will go Christian/Biblical, such as the dev stated. It uses Religious context and imagery but that's it. Those things are simply devices being used to tell a story: that guiding and curious light are angels and most of the entities are demons. That's all.

5:53 They can actually be el goblino and here’s why: When you scratch something you move the hand down and up. So if el goblino was on the walls and maybe slid down then, it would leave a long mark. Edit: I fixed a spelling mistake. I thought I should.

Matpat only said that CURIOUS Light couldnt interact with objects in the real world. He even said in his first video that Guiding Light took control of the crucifix. An object in the real world.

Honestly, The claw marks have got to be a connection to Dupe. Dupe has claws. You can see on the cover of the hotel update that he has three claws that are long and sharp.

MatPat has to be right about the other realities all connected in the void theory. Because if you look through the hotel entrance in the doors lobby.. well.. you can see the same exact bridge in the void just floating in between time and space.

Kreek he probly ment that the the "Lucifer" cannot interact wich the outside world because he was in the Rooms and not that he cant do anything at all Edit: Yes coral rogers i am not good at English thanks for reminding me! 😃

To be fair, it could be Dupe scratching the walls because the Doors thumbnail has Dupe with hands and arms, scratching the door it's behind.

what if one of the doors lead to another universe called “floors” and another leads to “stairs” or “ladders” or something like that?

Yeah, he may be wrong. But he did A LOT of research for this..

Redibles only said that the crucifix didn't MEAN it had a religious theme, that doesn't really mean he's saying that it doesn't. Also, maybe what Matpat means is that Guiding Light and Curious Light can't interact with the real world specifically in ROOMS. After all, both the crucifix and the candle don't work there, and both seem to be powered by Guiding Light.

I have a theory of curious light. They wouldn't call the music 'curious light' for nothing. It seems to know a lot about rooms but doesn't share it, thinking it is already easy to understand (unless it has something to do with A-90). Maybe curious light knows about doors but has never seen it. It might be unable to open doors and it cannot go through the entrance so it needs the player to come and open doors for it. Because of its curiosity, curious light pushes the player onwards.

Game Theory could be wrong about the religion part about DOORS like saying that Curious Light in ROOMS could be the devil in disguise but his other theories about DOORS was pretty interesting and spot-on. Kreek debunking that while reacting to Matpat's theory is honestly pretty nice.

I knew about the guiding light knocking over the lamp in door 50 ever since my first time playing the update.

Curious light is also on coins.. if you look closely coins have orange sparkles. He’s called curious light because he is curious and guides you not to the truth but to additions, backing up the fact that the rooms is an addition to doors why he appears there..

Actually, those scratches could be El Goblino’s because when you scratch something back and forth it gets bigger so he must have done that, also he must have covered a larger distance to make the scratch longer

18:05 another reason the lamp couldve been knocked over was his intense movement he makes when he runs toward the door vibrating the room enough for the camera to shake which would mean the player and the lamp lose balance i think guiding light is just there to guide the player in the direction of the note

The funny thing is that one guy who is waiting for kreek on what is he doing.the chat said that the guy said kreek is a dissapointment,the chat did not lie about him saying kreek is a dissapointment.but kreek saying not on his stream was kinda funny and controversial,and the funny one was kreek using the skeloten key on door 1 Edit:Sorry if i have bad telling story or bad grammar Edit:dont read my comment pls

The lamp falling over In door 50 makes much more sense to why figure changes directions when he hears the door open

Here's my theory. I feel like they aren't demons more of ghosts. And since it said inspiration it won't be a stretch to say the humuculus is real. And to be honest he said himself "Guiding Light destroyed the bridge". But if we're talking about Satan, what happened when Satan challenged God? He lost all his powers, so that might be the reason he can't interact with things. Therefore rooms could actually be well, hell. After Curious Light challenged God and got destroyed he was sent down to rooms along with 3 entities. When bob escaped rooms he opened up a way to travel through dimensions. Curious Light didn't notice until we came showing we came from a different dimension and he started to have hope. BUT here's my all time theory. The bridge in doors and rooms are very very very similar. I believe that when we were going to the hotel to look for the monsters, we actually warped through dimensions unknowingly. And now we are warping through constant dimensions, which explains celestial beings existing trying to help us live, but trying to make us die at the same time. So now we are stuck trying to escape a hotel, when in reality we should be focusing on escaping an entire dimension.

But hey, it’s just a theory. A GAME THEORY

the thing i love about kreek is that he is always so calm compared to me: me:*enters door 100 and pulls lever* also me: faints from panic attack keep up the good work kreek 🎉

I personally think that Dupe made the claw marks on the walls, because in a picture it was shown with big claws scratching a door it was behind.

matpat meant that curious light can't interact with the doors reality, but guiding light can interact with its own world

Great work kreek! Keep up the good content

5:30 to be fair, it’s never short scratches in these horror games, they could be easily extended. TEAM THEORIST FOREVAAAAA time to take several proverbial bullets

The doors movie animator actually did that for the bacon guy for when they entered door 50, at the end it shows bacon glitch boy knock down a lamp, not sure if this has anything to do with it, but it's interesting to me.

I love Kreek is saying the scratch marks are not el goblino, because it’s a long scratch when he could, just scratch it from a long distance and also did not develop. Lspalsh could’ve just messed up on the height and they didn’t really think about it.

The door devs should really make Jeff killing if you don't tip him a thing.

Dupe has 3 claws in the cover art for Doors, so maybe dupe made so scratch marks?

1: Guiding light can interact with the real world but curious light cant 2:Redibles is christian himself and may have bias by saying that doors has no religious undertone in its lore, despite the obvious crucifix, and he even said there is inspiration, while i think some parts of matts theory are wrong i think its overall mostly right, as confirmed by a dev he is not totally correct.

that was a good stream btw 10k-th like cuz it turned 10k when i liked

You know it’s an awesome day when Kreek live streams

The developers actually confirmed these "flesh" is actually snare whitout its spikes.

10:16 I think the footage used was from DV Plays, based on the avatar on the “continue run” button.

Even though he was wrong, it was still a good theory. Like, who would have thought-

Awesome Stream! Keep up the good work. :)

The claws could maybe be him... Cant judge his claws on just how they look, Mr. Poptart >-

a quick theory: two brothers come seeking help at the hotel but then have to face the entities at room 61 one brother goes into rooms while the other goes farther into the hotel they both die and become spirits one brother becomes curious light and the other is guiding light they ty and guid the players to escape and if the player gets through rooms and doors the spirits can finally be free

It was a good stream. Keep it up.

aweson stream kreek! keep up bro

guiding light has always broken the lamp before the new cutscene I think well the lamp has always broke before and after the new cutscene

El Goblino is very short, so if he'd jump and then scratch while falling thats why the long clawmarks

Amazing stream ! I really liked it! :D

Great stream once again!

10:11 Not so rare footage of Kreek losing his mind.

I think there are more than just Curious light and guiding light like with other colours and soundtracks

Great stream kreek hope u have a warm shower!

very great stream good job!

The footage of A-1000 was from another youtuber DV Plays and you can see that Matpat's character wasn't at the bottom, so DV didnt get the tablet.

I'm pretty sure that the scratches on the walls are dupe because if you walk up to the dupe door but not going in, you can hear dupe scratching at the walls in the door he is in

Awsome stream Kreek! keep up the good work bro

Great stream Kreek!!!!!

Ghost can still create air and push something over doesn’t need to touch and nock it over, but door needs to be touched to open.

It is possible that guiding light nocks something over in door 50, however it could also be nocked over because of the figures heavy footsteps because when for example the figure walks past you, the screen shakes. So maybe the figure stomping on the ground nocked over whatever fell down, and the guiding light is simply there to guide you to the paper

I do think the entity’s being demons and curious light being an angle isn’t directly religious but just more like mythical creatures like dragons so minus the satin theory I think he could be right.

Great stream! Excited for the Brookhaven stream tomorrow!

19:10 - Why doesn't guiding light stop falling chandeliers lol.

Fun fact: Wing Dings is a language from Undertale that the mysterious character W.D Gaster uses.

❤ the stream keep ur the good work!!

Good Stream kreek! I hope there is gonna be more doors stream!😁 𝓣𝓗𝓐𝓝𝓚 𝓨𝓞𝓤 𝓖𝓞𝓣 13 𝓛𝓘𝓚𝓔𝓢!! ♥︎♥︎

the tears on the walls arent the size of the claws its tearing and ripping the wall paper so the claw marks are larger than the monsters claw atleast that makes sense to me

Figure never was a normal entity and it never was an option to LSPLASH and RediblesQW.

Great stream! Can’t wait for tomorrows’s stream😃

KreekCraft makes my day everyday I watch his videos

Game theory really has to come for any popular game Any game they TOUCH gets controversial theories which makes games hated which leads to people hating on them and saying that they’re wrong *LOOKS AT THE TITLE INTENSELY*

i love the intro jsut jeff saying "names jeff"

Great stream!

That was a good stream

My theoy is: every light has its own dimension, its just curios light has access to all but he needs players to open it for him Thats why he is "curios"

Bro the Devs knew how smart the fans were so they hid em with gaster and bill cipher

Awesome stream Kreek! Keep up

The fact that red was talking abt doors and not the rooms part is coocoo

the "bob" desk is just a reference to rooms desk that litteraly has the nametag "bob" aswell

great stream! cant wait for stream tmr! loved the part at 2:07:39

This was an epic stream.

also guiding light slightly knocks off the right books for the code

Another thing I'm questing is that..... When he said Eg is a child I remember back to one of the words eg said which was "mi amor" and one of the people who worked on doors said that eg was married to an entity in the hotel....

That was an awesome stream.

Well...we all know MatPat. Sometimes he always do misleading theory, even Doors already 2 times now is quite misleading. The first theory vid he said Doors is happened during war in 1900s (I believe), now he do a theory on monsters is demon and relate to religion

5:29 no, he scratched the walls with his claws that's why they are so big

Awesome Stream Kreek, you were a bit late but sure! Hope That Glitched Figure or Matpat Doesn't come beating you up.

If guiding light can help us physically why not do something big like assist in solving puzzles or tell what door dupe is behind or stop or try to stop bosses without the need for the crucifix

That last one actually made so much sense

I have a theory. Maybe El Goblino has some type of bigger form which is how he made the marks if maybe he had bigger claws of something idk

19:10 what if guiding lights told el goblino to knock it out cuz as a theory he lives in walls?

Kreek and MatPat should do a collab on roblox games that they know very well so that they can share their ideas. Edit: could the celestials in the decrypted message be the lights? like guiding light and curious light.

10:25 he didn't play that part, the guy who did it was DV plays and Game Theoryst use that clip for an example

Way too big claws? Well no. He could hold it down and slid down

Gaster created the Crucifix circle confirmed

a dev on the wiki said that matpats theory was nowhere close (the first one as the 2nd one wasnt released yet)

5:56 Figure cant do that, look at his hands, not even sharp. His hands are only used, as a guess, to capture its prey.

At 16:26 i was like: *"BUT ITS ALL JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORY"*

I think it is goblins claw marks because he probably scratched all the way down like a cat.

I always thought that the lamp fell because of the rumbling of his steps in the library

Jeff's my favorite entity, but are they even an entity, the crucifix doesn't work on them!

uhh creek the claw marks are indeed El Goblino because if you mark a wall with claws and keep going the claws will get bigger

I found out that dupe makes scratching sounds when you listen closely to a duped door

I think its figure cuz el goblino mentions that figure was destorying everything and when we unlocked the library figure was finally able to destory things once again and he rushes to room 100 and thats why he is in room 100

I think dupe did the claw marks because you could see in the image of doors that dupe has hands which means he has a body so he is probably the person behind the broken walls. By the way we don't know the size of dupe but dupe hands are big in the image which means that he is a big entity.