Yessss I was thinking about that story!! :))

On top of that, Scyther got an entirely new evolution (Scyzzor) that results from an item that looks man made, at least it looks like that to me.

@@adamnakamura8003 It did :)

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@@heisenbergcollins8153 jaja

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Bot sweep!

Seems plausible

Yeah that was my assumption about them as well

That's assuming that they're not the tragic results of faulty pokeballs.

ya

technically pokeballs aren't canonically made of metal. From what we know, they are still to this day made from apricorn as the only pokeballs we see that are made are the special pokeballs made by kurt, all being made from apricorn.

so voltorbs are man made pokemon?

@@spiderfrog2023yeah, I think so :)

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@@WarriorSims38 what?

@Milan 💛⤵️ shut up

@p you too

There's way too many bots

His last video was literally about pokemon

It HAS.

agree. matpat just can't help but make everything sound like the main characters fault. or that the main characters are evil. it is like a running gag that evolved into a overused running gag. these theorys are way too cheep. anyone can make these theories with little effort in them and have the same results. it is overall boring.

@@MegaDragonmark yes, everyone can, but not everyone will. Mostly because it does require effort. Making a video like this isn't as easy as you think. However, i do agree that GameTheory is overusing, "The Player is EVIL" shock factor click bait.

@@Elipson52008 i was talking about whipping up a theory a kin to the thory in the video. i was not saying it was easy to make a dam video.

seriously. its just relating what we did as humanity to the environment. so on and so forth. i already know that humanity is a pain. i do not need more reasons to hate it more.

@@MegaDragonmark He never stated that you, the player, were evil. He just stated that this was your doing.

Well, then where did they go?

@@Chaotic.Fish88 did you not read what he said :|

@@bt7777 No, sorry I understand I was kinda shy in my wording. What I mean is where did all the Zorua go? To Unova? That’s a while away, there’s no way *all* of the Zorua went to Unova. Maybe they did tho.

@@Chaotic.Fish88 probably not all but idk

@@bt7777 well if not all the Zorua left, then where are they in modern Sinnoh? That’s what I was asking

Actually, "neoteny" is where something retains juvenile traits in adulthood. Axolotls are a weird case because they have neoteny without having that selectively bred into them.

True, my description was poor

yeah and i mean other than massive mass outbreaks there are no instances of ursaluna, sneasler, or kleavor in the wild. So evidently the clans were the ones evolving them, so when the clans went extinct, the evolutions did too.

There are several Pokémon who need an object to evolve and if you have played any of the Pokémon Dungeon games, you can see how smart and able Pokémon are and the things that they use on themselves in order to even survive. (Like they have their own special items for health, culture, currency and carry such things as revival seeds) So I would say if an Ursaring wanted to evolve to Ursaluna, they could do so if they desired to do that, like a Pokémon can also decide not to evolve at all (I mean Pokémon on the wild btw.). If you want Pokémon to do battle they would have to be smart enough to know what you are telling them. Shoot I wouldn't go this route but on the anime Team Rocket's Meowth has a whole personality. And any Movie that focuses on the Pokémon only also shows the complicated lives they lead and how capable they are. And I highly doubt the Clans were evolving the Pokémon, seeing how both were very against taking the will away from Pokémon, they let Pokémon choose if they wanted to be a companion or not. And we're even offended by the player at first.

Yes

@@hangsthemighty912 1, the pokemon in the mystery dungeon world are not the same as the ones in the world of the main line games. If they were as intelligent as the ones that have a full society, they wouldn’t be taking orders from humans or living like animals in the wild. 2, I didn’t say they weren’t capable of it if they wanted to, I said that, in the wild, there’s no real reason they *would* want to, again, as evidenced by the fact that you don’t encounter any Ursaluna in the wild while Ursaring are plentiful. 3, while yes, pokemon do have individual personalities, ones like Team Rocket’s Meowth or Sir Aaron’s Lucario that posses human level intelligence are very few and very far between And 4, Palina, a fellow Pearl Clan warden, tells the player that the clan at large is critical of her because she *wasn’t* forcing the Growlithe descended from the hero’s Arcanine to train harder, evolve, and become the Lord Pokemon, so there’s no reason to assume they wouldn’t be the same way about making sure the descendant of the hero’s Ursaluna also became an Ursaluna.

Also the Gen 4 games don’t show the sky

peat is plant organisms that died and ended up in the water, so the great swamps should have some peat still. so yeah, peat making a comeback could totaly happen :D

Maybe thats what happened, they are some pokemon from hisui that will be wildly in the next game *Scarlet and Violet

Metal coat could be a sub already

The games to tend to do that with Fossil Pokemon so why not?

@@phoenixali4479 metal coat and the augurite are literally just old a new versions of each other rock=old metal=new

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@Adli Susanti sus

Nice 😂

basically like gen 4 galaxy team is evil

@Josh the Joshey Boii sus

also, hes straight up wrong about the future knowledge. you the player have that knowledge, the character doesn't, even at the start they point out you dont remember anything about where you come from

@@thunderborn3231 oh yeah, i forgot about that bit XD

​@@thunderborn3231 That might be true, but it's more of an instinct than a memory. You're instinctively aware that pokemon are helpful, and some are even docile. So a loss of memory wouldn't affect it since it's hard-wired from when you were in the future.

For Decidueye specifically, his nature cloak is based on the Deciduous Forest, which changes with the seasons, it's likely Hisuian Decidueye is just a form taken when evolving in the colder climate

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Why are there so many bots here?

So he's ruining himself?

Only 3 or 4 counting me humans here lmao

Atleast the games theme being past and future it'll make sense.

We already will get hisuian zoroa and zoroark

To be fair we've been able to bring back extinct pokemon since Gen 1. Just look at Omanyte, Omistar, Kabuto, Kabutops, and Aerodactyl.

I think the Pokemon are already confirmed that they will come back in the two new games xD

Well, they didn’t, the hisuian are going to be accessible from Pokemon home

@Redstones Lover wow

@Redstones Lover gollum

And in the games too, I remember being ambushed by them in firered

@kevinzen your bad

Considering how most of Sinnoh are forest, I don't think they ran out of trees.

Funny enough, I just rediscovered that game a few days ago due to (I think?) a reddit post. Been considering seeing if wii emulators for PC were a thing, so I could mess with it again

pokepark was my childhood. boyfriend recently gave me his copies of the original and the sequel to play on my wii u :)

Those two terms arent mutually exclusive though - the domestic dog only evolved from a fraction of their ancestral wolf species, so you couldn't say that the species as a whole evolved into dogs. Just because a species arises from another doesn't mean the 'parent' species goes extinct either - domestic chickens account for the majority of birds on the planet but the junglefowl species their ancestors hail from still exist in the jungles of Southeast Asia.

but the modern liligant cannot be found in sinnoh

Same for Zoroark but for them its because they no longer really hate humans, this pokemons is litteraly a dark sasuke alive but now they are cooler

But the Lilligants were native to Hisui but not in Sinnoh. Plus, we're talking evolution via natural selection. While the species as a whole didn't die out, the Hisuian varients most likely did die and the survivors were just those with more beneficial traits

Dinosaurs are extinct, right? So… why chicken

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We already have done that remember the fossil Pokémon they were extinct until we brought them back so tbh your right we have a way to do it already so why not

Being we see alot of these pokemon in S&V in the wild there not extinct. Mat is just ignoring facts because he wanted to make a pokemon video to jump on the pokemon train like he said at the start of the video

@@blo0dysmiles297 Whatever, dude. XD

@@blo0dysmiles297 or maybe, and this is just maybe, those games already did all the work of fixing that. Specially for the pokemon who are not evolving due to forgetting a move or lacking the right item. That is not even considering that an animal/pokemon might be extint in one region but not in the other. As seen with how each region has a completely different list of pokemon.

That requires there to be a fossil. As far as I know, there's no recorded fossils of any of these pokemon, and that could be easily believed given that many of these pokemon (the evolutions at least) don't exist in the wild outside of select exceptions, such as the Ursaluna and Kleavor boss fights. In the entire game there is only one wild Wyrdeer, and it's unlikely that a fossil would have been made from it since many of the methods of rapid fossilization aren't present in its natural habitat. For a fossil to be present of many of them, it would have to have been because of the actions of the player - intentionally killing them in ways that would result in rapid fossilization, such as dropping them into a volcano or flash-freezing them in the tundra somewhere that would only ever be found by the player. Hisuian Growlithe might have fossils, but it seems unlikely with how Growlithe are typically highly resistant to heat. Some of them are also highly unlikely to be capable of being fossilized, such as Hisuian Lilligant. There are several that aren't mentioned in this video though, such as Hisuian Sneasel/Sneasler, Hisuian Lilligant, the Hisuian Starters (which aside from the three in town show up nowhere in the wild and only through Distortion Events, caused by Giratina) and a couple others I can't think of off the top of my head. However, with the returning presence of Giratina, and our ability to catch and possibly control it in BD/SP, it's very possible that it could be used to create controlled distortions for the sake of hunting down and potentially breeding some of those Pokemon. After all, the distortions specialize in pulling Pokemon from many different places and times. Case in point - Shieldon and Rampardos couldn't exist in Arceus without Giratina's distortions, and they don't exist in BD/SP without fossil regeneration.

@@netatsake he made a small comment and you responded with an essay 😂

@@Logiebear2310 In true GameTheory fashion, baby.

They' machines are imperfect, almost all of them come back as half Rock type

It does make you wonder why the original Voltorbs became a Pokeball before they were popular tho...

@@MegaHuntress Well, they were mimicking Apricorns, and then when Pokéballs became really popular they changed to mimicking that.

@@klop4228 I know that. But WHY mimic Apricorns BEFORE they started being used as pokeballs?

@@MegaHuntress Probably to avoid being eaten by flesh-hungry predators, like a stick bug? Look like something other than your predator's food source and they won't bother you. Anything that thinks it's an apricorn will be caught off-guard and more easily fought off, if they even have any interest in eating the voltorb after it discovers it's an animal and not a nut.

@@spookycreachre Yeah that makes a lot of sense.

@Josh the Joshey Boii no it's not

well its debatable as while this does work explaining why there is no hisuian samurott or decidueye. You could transfer a cyndaquil into the original diamond and peal games and evolve it to a normal typhlosian. The starter you get is brought from another reigon so it isnt our definition of evolution causing this. Its much more likely that in ancient hisui there is some sort of energy causing them to change forms. Possibly the spacetime rift.

@@Clover999X3 which may explain avalugg

You realize that this game was in the past, right? These Pokemon are native to Hisui. That's the first place they ever lived.

​@@Clover999X3 evolution is a misnomer, as it's more of a metamorphosis

I don't think so. Since Apricorns were the primary object used to start the production of Pokeballs it is reasonable that humans wanted to find a similar material that could possibly fill the absence of Apricorns once it was overharvested. And since Voltorbs and Electrodes were a living resemblance of the wood once used to make Pokeballs, they probably thought it was the material with most similarities and just decided to use it as a replacement.

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Yeah, I was going to comment that I'm pretty sure The starters were specifically brought there from other regions and eventually when the civilization grew they didn't need to bring Pokemon from their home land to fight against the Pokemon as it was their home now and they tamed Turtwig, Chimchar and Piplup instead

I think oshawott and Rowlett being native is still possible , the starters are just rare Pokémon usually and their home region is just where they were first recorded , I.e charmanders are native to galar but since oak did the whole Pokédex thing with actual proper numbers as a “national” dex

Actually, their presence in this game and region could imply that they were initially native to Hisui but got introduced to Alola (there are a lot of Pokemon that AREN'T native to Alola) or Rowlet (and its evolved forms) used to exist in Hisui but were rendered extinct. Worth noting is that Rowlet and its evolved forms, looks-wise, are based off of the barn owl, which is the MOST widespread owl species there is.

Now that is something I didn’t think about

@@renzojeripalomino4885 heck, if you look at the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon it seems that this drive for self improvement remains, even in a [almost?] Humanless world.

@@devilsadvocate1380 even in the anime (indigo league) there’s a trainer with a Pokémon that just left him after losing all their badges to team rocket, and meowth says that the said Pokémon wanted to get stronger and have a chance at being a Pokémon master and quit after all that hard work was wasted due to all their badges being stolen Speaking of badges does anyone even know where to get a rock badge after Brock left?

@@heaven4772 his dad

No, SOME of them want to fight. And that still doesn't work, because in animal pit fighting, animals are actively wound up or baiting into committing to the fight. So it can be pit fighting even WITH the pokemon's desire to fight.

Haven't played a Pokemon game since black/white 1. What are you talking about?

​@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut Paradox forms are basically pokemon from the future or past, being either robot-like(future) or caveman-like(past)

​@@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut oh, boy...

I think you misunderstood what he said

@@Cameron_Maguire well if they ran out and hunted voltorbs, then the extinction of those voltorbs wouldn't allow any more pokeballs to be made, and as op mentioned, apricorns are still used in pokeballs in modern games, so it's really unlikely for the video to be correct on that account

It could have been a very specific species of apricorns

@@Tokuijin nope, same apricorn species as there are already stated different species in every gane with them, so if they dont even imply the pla apricorns change to modern then wheres the proof they do?

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@Redstones Lover yessorrr

@Redstones Lover gollum

I don't want to imagine the process that went through to change Voltorb's entire anatomy to another substance.

@@RGC_animation Gene editing perhaps? We see species restored from fossils, not much of a stretch

The item Metal coat exists later in gen 2+. It's likely that some voltorbs/electrodes were coated by it and became the "metal" pokemon we know of since gen 1?

i agree but idk about chopping off horns to keep them alive... if anything we do that and end up killing them. maybe chopping off sheeps' tails so they dont get infections

I have to say tho, that getting your hands on enough apricorns to get the trees to vanish from the region is almost impossible unless every person catches thousands of Pokémon. Not to mention that there are fields at wgich apricorns can be planted. Overall the whole theory is pretty farfetched in the first place and doesn't make much sense when it comes to certain points.

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@@heisenbergcollins8153 gollum

There's also Pokemon Go to consider. Hisuian versions of; Voltorb, Electrode, Sneasel, Sneasler, Growlithe, Arcanine, Qwilfish, Overqwil, & Braviary, are all available in game.

@@SomeBloke420 Isn't the story behind that that they came from portals opening up though?

Source?

Mate, if Wyrdeer just didn't want fur, it wouldn't grow as much fur later on in evolution. The species wouldn't just stop existing. Also, there is no proof that other Quilfish exist.

@P delta 8:10 "A different form of quilfish live in other regions" it would make sense that researchers would bring those quilfish so they can study the differences

@@IkrAer And that would lead to assimilation how? If the things can't swim, they can't just move somewhere else.

@@pdelta it didn't stop existing as a matter of fact not one of these creatures actually seem to of died off changed isn't the same as died off many of these pokemon still exist in different forms or simply stopped evolving but haven't died off

@@apirlfools Mate, if the entire species is completely absent from every single game, then it doesn't exist anymore.

Electrodes probably just changed after living in city environments for several generations. They mimic the materials around them.

Professor Laventon is actually from Galar, so we know that it’s inhabited too. Honestly, given that this game is set during the Pokemon world’s equivalent of the annexation of Hokkaido, which happened in the 1860’s-1870’s, there’s no way that the colonization of Hisui wasn’t going to happen on it’s own. The player may have sped it up by completing the Pokédex, but it’s not like we were the only members of the survey corps working on the thing. It was inevitable.

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@kevinzen Peluchin, T-Series, Oh Hey Cj, Morgz, and Meowbahh already have that title.

@p shut up

@Milan 💛⤵️ you two

Possibly, but unlike other regional varients in the game, Basculin isn't strictly referred to as "Hisuian" but as "white Striped" meaning it's notimpossible that just the white varient died out, or just evolved into the 2 types we know of today.

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I have a friend who, without ever watching MatPat, has been into Pokemon lore for nearly two decades. He has remained fascinated by how incredible the world is and loves to talk about how well it's put together. I agree that they needed exclusives, but they also have fully set this stuff up and have *been* setting up things like this in the way they expand the world's pokemon. That said, i'm not really that big on much of the lore myself, i just enjoy watching MatPat overanalyze literally anything. But my friend has been talking about and noticing stuff like this in pokemon for ages.

@@heisenbergcollins8153 yessir

​@@Chronicler9 The pokémon world is about as well put together as a toddler's block tower, but I'm glad your friend has a hobby. LOL.

Ah, sort of like the domestication of... well, a lot of real-world animals. Most dog breeds didn't need to be as big or as strong as wolves, because humans took care of them. Livestock pigs became much gentler than their wild counterparts, because we bred them to be that way. And cattle as we know them, only exist as a species because of human intervention. So, that would also make sense; besides driving things to extinction, humans also drive animals into unusual evolutionary paths.

evolution isn't based on need. It's a completely RANDOM process....

@@LamanKnight Yes that's what I'm thinking

@@ch3ater13 Lmao it totally is not, evolution is based on need, if a species doesn’t evolve to survive in its habitat it will go extinct therefore species evolve by passing the genes of the members of said species that survived their habitat

@@ch3ater13 i mean yes but alot of evolution has stemmed from environmental impact and survival so can't just exclude that by saying its all random.

Pokemon can die without trainers killing them.

No neccesarily. I believe Hisuian Lilligant and Zoroark have been confirmed for S&V

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@@heisenbergcollins8153 lets gooo

@@AZDfox Lilligant is one of the contenders I mentioned. Petilil isn't Hisuian. Zorua and Zoroark in SV is dope though.

@@daniboy018 zorua and zoroark make sense since the hisuan forms are canonically lost souls so they could still be somewhere.

Actually basculin has to compete with magikarp and if your evolution in universe has you taking the souls of dead relatives I don't think you can out pace magikarp only place it did was unova

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Contrary to popular belief, dodo birds weren't hunted to extinction, as they taste bad. What _did_ kill them was the animals humans brought with them.

@@imreallybadatnamingthings so we technically did cause their extinction 💀

@@REDRUM-hk3oh Yes, we still did. But it was indirect.

Like the hidden grottos from Gen 5 but bigger in more secretive areas?

Like a Pokemon lost world

@@SpaceDetectiveTravis Or the BDSP grand underground

True, there's tons of areas like this in the show. Places where only pokemon live

Stardew is a really nice game with dark secrets

I'm afraid all there is to uncover has been uncovered.

@@cheesecakelasagna no it hasn’t I saw a a something black when I was going to bus stop in my farm 😭😭

@@happytry7587 That can be explained through in-game events

yes!!

I'm pretty sure it was humans that banished Zoroark and Zorua.

i would have thought the influx of johto sneasel and weavile would have doomed them give dark ice

@@marioli2463 The two don’t really have enough crossover for me to think they might be related , but maybe Johto Sneasel was the stressor that forced Braviary from their snowy territories, making them find other suitable hunting grounds

Professor Sada is a fan of Jurassic Park and brings them back from extinction?

You will most likely just be able to transfer them to PLA like you can transfer Alola forms to Galar, I don't think they're in the wild or something

Reminder that the pokemon universe has instant revival of fossils. Its possible that these forms are revived.

Pokemon Arceus Legend’s Hisui is not a past region but a future region that regress to past ways of life

Dex cut

@@SSJacksWolf Don't you be talking smack about my beloved fossil pokemon.

this could mean more ancestrial pkmn games lol

Just like Australia.

This is pretty much my head canon as well for how humans came to the pokemon world.

hisuian zorua are migrated from unova. Unovan zroua couldn't survive in hisui and their ghosts came back for vengeance, hence it's a ghost normal type. (ghost coming back for vengence is the most common reason for them to appear.)

Hisuian Zoroark will appear in SV but that's just because it's most likely transferrable from PLA, not available in the wild or something.

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Yeah but WE helped Volo gather the plates. Otherwise the enraged legendary would've been defeated by the other. And peace would have remained.

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Yeah but Volo follows you throughout your entire journey, if he were to do that alone it would be a death sentence so there’s no real chance he would gather everything he needs and reform the world using giratina

Oh no, Geratina will kill us all, whatever will we do?😒 Me: One Geratina < one Team Rocket Wobbufett.

Greenland is actually pretty small

but losing their fear is *exactly* what led to them being hunted

its overall beneficial for humans to take over and expand because they can create more modern medicine, pokemon centers, etc. even if its at the cost of some species going extinct.

Besides, extinct isn't extinct in the pokeverse. We have revived plenty of fossils