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This review of the NVIDIA RTX 4060 GPU benchmarks its performance vs. the AMD RX 7600, RX 6700 XT, NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti, Intel Arc A750, and plenty more modern cards. We also included benchmarks and comparisons against the RTX 3060, RTX 2060, and even the GTX 1060 to help you determine if it's time to upgrade. The 4060 isn't as poorly positioned as the 4060 Ti -- that one was really bad positioning -- but it still feels like the relative performance would equate a "4050" by traditional naming.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - The RTX 4060 Review
02:12 - Specs, Pricing, & Memory
05:58 - Bizarre Marketing Approach
07:52 - ASUS Fan Curve Problems
09:27 - Cyberpunk GPU Benchmarks (1080p)
10:17 - Cyberpunk 1440p Benchmarks - RTX 4060
11:06 - 4K Loss to RTX 3060
11:50 - FFXIV 1080p GPU Benchmarks
12:52 - FFXIV 1440p GPU Benchmarks
13:25 - FFXIV 4K Best GPU Benchmarks
14:07 - F1 1080p - 6700 XT is Strong
14:57 - F1 1440p Benchmarks
15:25 - F1 4K Benchmarks
15:45 - Total Warhammer 1080p & 1440p GPU Tests
16:35 - Tomb Raider 1080p Benchmarks
17:27 - Tomb Raider 1440p & 4K Top GPUs 2023
19:16 - Horizon Zero Dawn 'Worst Case' Scenario
20:31 - Power Consumption on RTX 4060
22:20 - Ray Tracing Benchmarks & 4060 Strength
24:04 - Detailed Frametime Comparisons
26:36 - Conclusion
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@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 10 місяців тому
How AMD Zen Almost Didn't Make It - an interview: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/ioRyZ4KqZI1yxKs.html Watch our best cases of 2023 (so far) round-up! ukposts.info/have/v-deo/f4l-baprmpWW12Q.html
@random-zr5km
@random-zr5km 10 місяців тому
totally agree the 4060 looks more like a 4050. but why didn't you compare it to the 3050 then? maybe even adding what should have been the 3050 Ti into the mix, meaning the 3060 8GB? great video other than that. I love it. keep leading the community into a better future, thx GN team!! can you make a video hypothesizing the 4060 is a 4050, 4060Ti a 4050ti, all the way up, except 4090? also giving them a fair price from your POV would be nice. I think the community needs smth like this for better discussions
@Uraim
@Uraim 10 місяців тому
@@random-zr5km I think since the 4050 wasn't released, and the 4060 got a 110W TDP design, it look like 4050 behind the scenes. The 4060 is in the 60ish power category and its 110W-TDP. I also think that the 3050 was a mistaken due we never really seen an 50ish power category card on 130Watt TDP, but the 3050 is kicking ass with its TDP. Lets go back to stone age to review stuff! 550TI- 116W 650- 65W 650TI- 110W 750- 55W 750TI- 60W 950- 90W 1050- 75W 1050TI- 75W 3050- whopping 130Watt TDP I Think the GPU die manufacturers will avoid the low TDP due to competition, back then we even had GT610, GT630, GT710, GT730 on Nvidia side and we had HD6350 ,HD6450 ,HD7350, HD7450 on AMD side. Now we dont even have 50's series. I still even have my old af HD5550 laying on my desk, but i think i will show up in my windows xp retro pc butt due its not bad for xp.
@Steellmor
@Steellmor 10 місяців тому
How is power savings not relevant for low end? People who buy low end cards don't care how much they pay for electricity? And ones who care - buy expensive cards? :D Nvidia slides also show 10-20 load hours per week, that's not that much. And by the end of card "life" (with first owner), it's power consumption matters much more - reselling price lower\power price probably higher. Not that many people interested in old-furnace hardware, 980ti outperforms 1060 6g but most people would prefer 1060 x580 or look for 1070+. Plus it's better for SFF things,game rooms\lan parties where you need populate lots of PCs without blowing up fuses,offices, for kids\family PCs. There is only one question - why did Nvidia compared it to 3060 on that chart, this all was obvious joke about Arc 750.
@DMOC2008
@DMOC2008 10 місяців тому
so the short version of this since I myself have a 3060 Ti is wait for 5060 Ti and hopefully nvidia has learned there lesson from this trash launch of the 4060 family.
@Uraim
@Uraim 10 місяців тому
@@Steellmor the question is still odd due the Arc750 is a big boy with 225W-TDP, it better compared to 70ish power, due its usage. I think, (i also thinking about that everybody thinks that) the 110W-TDP card cannot be put next to a 225W-TDP card, also from the Intel GPU's everything can come out, intel gpu drivers evolving as time pass.
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 10 місяців тому
Nvidia releases $300 4050 labeled as 4060, Nvidia shocked consumers unimpressed at value.
@LEV1ATAN
@LEV1ATAN 10 місяців тому
Hell No! 4050???! More like 4030
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
Still outperforms the rx 7600
@htoomyatlin123
@htoomyatlin123 10 місяців тому
@@iequalsnoob which is also a terrible product. Hell, 90% of the gpus launched so far in 2022 and 2023 and terrible in value.
@NGreedia
@NGreedia 10 місяців тому
@@LEV1ATAN lmao. The 4050 will be a 4010
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD 10 місяців тому
It's not a 4050 in performance. How can you be so deluded.
@waffle911
@waffle911 10 місяців тому
It's hard to get excited about anything Nvidia does anymore when the greatest generational increases are the increased prices and model numbers. This is a 4050, not a 4060.
@wilsonjustinesison5113
@wilsonjustinesison5113 10 місяців тому
test
@2SaltyRecipes
@2SaltyRecipes 10 місяців тому
This is worse than a 4050. This freaking card can't even play games today without DLSS. So what the fuck it's the point of this card/
@jttech44
@jttech44 10 місяців тому
But but muh frame generations.... Major eyeroll there.
@Aquaquake
@Aquaquake 10 місяців тому
@@2SaltyRecipes Meh, Nvidia hate bandwagon aside, I would say it does what it's supposed to, it's an entry level, ultra-low power consumption card. And I don't think nvidia's chart for power savings is completely off either, especially for us in Europe. If you mostly game esports games like CS or (whatever is current FOTM) and want to save on energy bill, it does seem like a decent choice to me.
@hexerade.e6142
@hexerade.e6142 10 місяців тому
@@Aquaquake $300 for entry level? a 1050 ti was entry level. that card was $130
@RiddleTime
@RiddleTime 10 місяців тому
I like how Gamers Nexus has the 2 bars on the side to show you how long each slide is being presented.
@liarwithagun
@liarwithagun 10 місяців тому
They have insanely good editing
@hhectorlector
@hhectorlector 10 місяців тому
Yup. I first noticed it probably way after they started implementing that. So subtle yet helpful!
@RiddleTime
@RiddleTime 10 місяців тому
@@liarwithagun well.. It's not Micheal Bay yet.. But yeah I like these efforts on the viewer experience very much.
@clitmint
@clitmint 10 місяців тому
There was a guy who used to do the exact same thing with his Call of Duty 4 guides.
@magmavolt5732
@magmavolt5732 10 місяців тому
its a good idea but personally i was feeling little distracted with the BARS on either side.
@JoeCensored
@JoeCensored 10 місяців тому
Thank you for mentioning this is a PCIE X8 card. For low to mid range cards, these are attractive upgrades for older systems still on PCIE 3.0. It's not fair to expect PCIE 3.0 benchmarks, but 3.0 users will likely need all 16 lanes, so it's a good thing to mention. Thanks
@THU31
@THU31 10 місяців тому
This is irrelevant. A 4090 loses 2% performance on Gen3 x16, 6% on Gen2 x16. You can look up PCI-E scaling benchmarks (TechPowerUp is one site). The only scenario where this could affect the 4060 is when you run out of VRAM, but then you're screwed anyway.
@xii_yuki1935
@xii_yuki1935 10 місяців тому
@@THU31 4060 isn't x16, so putting 4090 here in comparison is just stupid
@hassosigbjoernson5738
@hassosigbjoernson5738 10 місяців тому
Looking at the performance of a used RTX 3060 Ti/ 3070 or a RX 6600 XT/ 5700 XT in this charts I would suggest those way cheaper upgrade options with similar performance level.
@THU31
@THU31 10 місяців тому
@@xii_yuki1935 Clearly you don't understand this at all. The number lanes doesn't matter, the bandwidth does. The 4090 is 2.5 times faster and it's not bottlenecked by Gen3 x16, so why would this card be bottlenecked by Gen3 x8? New revisions of PCI-Express are developed for professional applications, that's where it matters. There's a reason why none of the new cards use Gen5, it's pointless for gaming. It's purely marketing based on the illusion that higher number means more performance.
@LuxTheSlav
@LuxTheSlav 10 місяців тому
@@THU31 I guess the performance drop for the 6500XT (another x8 card) going from PCIe 4.0 to 3.0 being anywhere between 10% to 20% was our lack of understanding. If you cut the number of lanes in half, you cut the potential bandwidth in half. PCIe 4.0 x16 won't bottleneck any of these cards, PCIe 3.0 x16 and PCIe 4.0 x8 will be the same and unnoticeably worse than the former, but PCIe 3.0 x8 will be a quarter of the bandwidth and will definitely impact performance enough to change the value proposition. And that's the issue here, a "budget" (formerly midrange...) card is more likely to be used in a system limited to PCIe 3.0, giving it x8 lanes handicaps it for the casual user who doesn't know better, since it won't show up in most benchmarks or be explained in any vendor datasheet. Also, as an aside, don't condescend to random strangers on the internet without doing the legwork. TLDR: PCIe 3.0 x8 bottlenecks even a 6500XT and the proof is within a mouseclick's reach.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 10 місяців тому
Scamvidia did a great job of proposing an RTX 3050 "refresh" with DLSS 3.0
@vensroofcat6415
@vensroofcat6415 10 місяців тому
We would have gone crazy about getting this card at this price just 15 months ago. Low performance segment certainly should celebrate either this card or other ones that got further discounted because of this release. It's going in the right direction one way or another.
@wolfNflux
@wolfNflux 10 місяців тому
​@@vensroofcat6415I agree to an extent, but the needle has barely barely been pushed tho. It's a tiny incremental increase as far as actual rasterization performance is concerned. They're leaning too heavily on AI upscaling
@JustinJTime
@JustinJTime 10 місяців тому
@@vensroofcat6415 When these kinds of cards hit below $300 then I'll be happy.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 10 місяців тому
@@vensroofcat6415 The fact that is is more "affordable" than when we were all scammed during the plandemic is not a good thing imho. That means we should be happy to get "just the tip" because a few months ago we would have got the whole sausage.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 10 місяців тому
@@wolfNflux So true. I mean, if we could have DLSS 3.0 compatible with the 3060 cards, this would crush the whole 40 series.
@couchslouch1982
@couchslouch1982 10 місяців тому
Man, I remember/miss when the 60 series cards were the sweet spot for budget /performance.
@johnnypopstar
@johnnypopstar 10 місяців тому
The "sweet spot" depends entirely on your budget. There is no absolute "the".
@Hogdriva
@Hogdriva 10 місяців тому
70 cards were always sweet spot for me tbh. GTX 670 was super close to 680 for like $100 or more less lol
@geoghs02
@geoghs02 10 місяців тому
560ti was probably the best 60 series card there ever was. Back in the day before NVIDIA gimped SLI.
@AlexanderVonMalachi
@AlexanderVonMalachi 10 місяців тому
I too remember when *60 class was good choice, and *70 was for higher res or higher fps.
@abul1
@abul1 10 місяців тому
@@johnnypopstar I could afford a 4090. But Im happy playing on 2k with my 3060 Ti. Thats a sweet spot.
@Darkillumina
@Darkillumina 10 місяців тому
Surprised Steve hasn’t turned to the bottle after reviewing gpus this year
@mousev1093
@mousev1093 10 місяців тому
Would love to see some previous generation powerhouses included in some of these charts to see where they stack up anymore. Cards like the 1080ti or 2080super would be great candidates. Incredibly popular, strong enough to have allowed consumers to have skipped a few generations, but just old enough now to potentially not keep up in a few places where people might be getting an itch. It's kinda tough to make a conclusion when the comparisons run 3 cards deep and require much older footage. "New card is X% better in this game over this other card which I can trace back to being Y% better than my card in a completely different game 2 years ago" kind of thing. Maybe as a 1080ti Revisit kind of video? Great work as always Steve! Love the frame time charts being featured again
@andljoy
@andljoy 10 місяців тому
Why does Nvidia not just send its e-waste directly to recycling , it would be far more efficient.
@shangrilaladeda
@shangrilaladeda 10 місяців тому
They would lose too much money 🤑
@ZeroHourProductions407
@ZeroHourProductions407 10 місяців тому
Jensen wants to have a new jacket for every day of the calendar year, not just every week or month.
@Booth73
@Booth73 10 місяців тому
Bc people don't always watch reviews so people still buy these cards regardless of what everyone may think. A lot of these go into pre-built pcs where way more of the people in the world get into pc gaming over building their own.
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
Why doesnt AMD do the same?
@DimkaTsv
@DimkaTsv 10 місяців тому
​​​@@ZeroHourProductions407even if 1 jacket costs 350 USD, he will only spend 127'750 USD in a year. And he earns MUCH more...
@katzicael
@katzicael 10 місяців тому
the sheer hubris of charging US$300 for that waste of sand.
@dirg3music
@dirg3music 10 місяців тому
Worst part is that you just *know* people are gonna buy it anyway, it's just pitiful.
@joost1183
@joost1183 10 місяців тому
Today I learnt a new word to describe Nvidia's antics
@nutzeeer
@nutzeeer 10 місяців тому
Thats 2020 gtx 1080 used money
@Domenico1997JuTube
@Domenico1997JuTube 10 місяців тому
It's not a waste of sand, it's a perfectly capable RTX4050
@eriktenhag2022
@eriktenhag2022 10 місяців тому
​@@Domenico1997JuTubeit's e-waste is what it is
@achaerna.6662
@achaerna.6662 10 місяців тому
Seeing my EVGI 1060 SSC on the same charts as a 4090 is trippy as hell. Thank you GN for doing such fine whine work on Nvidia.
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 10 місяців тому
Speaking of “massive waste” of hardware, I’d like to see an updated review of AMD’s 6600 (XT) and 6700 XT reviews (maybe Intel Arc with its driver fixes, not necessarily as separate videos). Both reviews were (rightfully) hyper negative due to their launch price, but they’re now considered some of the less awful GPU choices for their prices.
@thegamerfe8751
@thegamerfe8751 10 місяців тому
"less awful choices" is a big understatement, they're some of the best GPUs you can get for their current price.
@jamegumb7298
@jamegumb7298 10 місяців тому
@@thegamerfe8751 What price? €450-€480 still pretty steep.
@jaysongalvez4340
@jaysongalvez4340 10 місяців тому
@@jamegumb7298 $270 where I am. (Used though)
@davidyang3068
@davidyang3068 10 місяців тому
@@jamegumb7298320 dollars new in US. 4060 is 300 dollars so pretty similar in pricing
@jakecole7447
@jakecole7447 10 місяців тому
@@thegamerfe8751 but you are still buying a GPU thats a generation and a half old.
@rickinielsen1
@rickinielsen1 10 місяців тому
NVIDIA at 3000 series launch: "look, 8k gaming is the future!" NVIDIA in the future: "Pay us ridiculous prices to play at 1080p..."
@raza.y
@raza.y 10 місяців тому
Exactly. So absurd. Talking about 8k but not giving enough vram in 2023 to run 1080p ultra
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 10 місяців тому
The fact that 1080p is still a thing is another problem.
@LAndrewsChannel
@LAndrewsChannel 10 місяців тому
@@Hybris51129 Why? Not everyone can or want to upgrade to a higher resolution. Also, with micro-PCs like Steam Deck or Aya Neo 1080p is more than enough for 7-10' displays and it is not as hard to run as a higher resolution which is a big requirement on such small, constrainted systems.
@Hybris51129
@Hybris51129 10 місяців тому
@@LAndrewsChannel On things like the Steam deck you are perfectly right but we are seeing people outright spec full size desktops for 1080p and companies are still marketing to those people. It's a very strange thing like what it would have been like to still be building a new desktop in 2004 that is meant to run at 480p or 720p instead of 1080p.
@LAndrewsChannel
@LAndrewsChannel 10 місяців тому
​@@Hybris51129 Well, if there is a buyer then there will also be a seller. I bet in 2004 720p was still a very popular resolution for both old and new systems as well. Change takes a long time, even in this sector.
@TimisDaniel
@TimisDaniel 10 місяців тому
Wow such performance at 1080p. Imagine what the future holds... Wait this is the future, that was something I was thinking in 2016.
@lok6314
@lok6314 10 місяців тому
no worries we got you covered with 6xxx series nvidia gpu. We got for you DLLS 5.0 with fake frames 600. we will just upscale from 240p and you will have +600 fps. Nvidia: what texture quality? Please this interview is over, we give you 600fps with low power consumption! You always want more and more! Interviewer: But why is it that 3xxx series have less fps but games look so much crisp and detail? Nvidia: this interview is over! JENSEN: THE MORE YOU BUY THE MORE YOU(WE) SAVE
@TimisDaniel
@TimisDaniel 10 місяців тому
@@lok6314 I never thought I would use AMD parts after I got my 1060 some years ago with a very nifty I5 6400. Now I'm on a 5800X3D(cause really it was killer price to performance for it's price) and a 6900XT (cause I accidentally got it really cheap, I was looking at a 3070). Who know maybe in a couple of years I'm gonna be on a Intel GPU with a nVidia CPU...
@gherkinisgreat
@gherkinisgreat 10 місяців тому
@@TimisDaniel At this rate it'll be an intel gpu and corsair cpu
@lok6314
@lok6314 10 місяців тому
@@TimisDaniel everything is possible. I most of the time switch between the hardware that gives me the best value fo rmoney.
@BeardedFrog
@BeardedFrog 10 місяців тому
If it was 2016 you could get the top tier card, a 1080ti, for $699... Which still is better than this today (minus ray tracing ofc). I sure got a lot of use out of mine before I bought a 4090 when it launched.
@ed2209
@ed2209 8 місяців тому
Updating my wife's rig from 2017 with a 1060, and it's honestly so nice to see that card on some of these charts, you've really considered your audience and where they might be coming from at this price point. Much appreciated as always.
@carrickdubya4765
@carrickdubya4765 Місяць тому
My MIL's computer is also 2017 but had a GT-1030 2Gb, which I upgraded with Rx 470 4Gb and 450w psu. But the 470 cannot keep up and glad I got the 4060 so I do not have to upgrade anything else for a few years of 1080p/60.
@MegaSneetch
@MegaSneetch 10 місяців тому
Every new Nvidia card review this generation is just gonna make me keep the 1080 Ti in my new build.
@Mr.Canuck
@Mr.Canuck 10 місяців тому
This is firmly planted in my head as well.
@lawrencelin272
@lawrencelin272 10 місяців тому
historically graphic cards are supposed to lose half the value roughly every 18mos bought two $700 tier cards 6 years ago sold one over $500 3 years later sold one for $300 weeks ago LOL 1080Ti is right up there with the 8800 GTX for legendary cards of its era
@J.Wick.
@J.Wick. 10 місяців тому
I feel the same with a 2080.
@sephrinx4958
@sephrinx4958 9 місяців тому
I wish I never got rid of my 1080ti. That thing was a beast.
@multicrogamer
@multicrogamer 9 місяців тому
@@lawrencelin272 My GTX 1080 feels left out
@SupraSav
@SupraSav 10 місяців тому
I hope card sales continue to plummet for nvidia. I just hope future generations never forget these shenanigans.
@viet0ne
@viet0ne 10 місяців тому
Hate to break it you and other gamers, but nVidia doesn't care about the gaming market. They haven't cared for some time. They make their money in enterprise which means workstation and now ML use. The PC gaming market is just a side gig for nVidia right now.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 місяців тому
This is going to be forgotten in like 2 weeks, people are really stupid and honestly just don't care at all.
@Dan-Simms
@Dan-Simms 10 місяців тому
Yeah sadly they make more than 10x more selling enterprise cards. They should split the company up, make gaming products a different branch under their umbrella.
@TRC_WA
@TRC_WA 10 місяців тому
Apparently lacking card sales is why it was just announced the 5000 series probably won’t be until 2025 instead of next year. Get your 4090 now.
@BlueDrew10
@BlueDrew10 10 місяців тому
@@kristoffer3000 Well for the most part, the people who'll forget this news in 2 weeks wouldn't sit through or even skim a video like this anyways. The unfortunate part is that we only represent a small percentage of total consumers. The good news is that, based on sales, the average consumer is clearly taking notice of the news surrounding these cards.
@misterio10gre
@misterio10gre 10 місяців тому
it's crazy how only the 4090 had a meaningful performance jump compared to its predecessor while the rest of the line up is a glorified refresh with DLSS 3
@libaf5471
@libaf5471 10 місяців тому
Nvidia is flyfishing. "LOOK AT THE SHINY THING!" And people remember it's called "nvidia" something and then go buy "nvidia" somethings.
@haukikannel
@haukikannel 10 місяців тому
Nvidia market share for last two moths… 84% so Nvidia is right… 😢😢😢
@tradingnichols2255
@tradingnichols2255 10 місяців тому
This is exactly how I feel about this. Though, I"ll admit to liking the 4070 as it's basically a 4080 with 1/3 less watts. I really like less watts. Never got a 3080, probably never will. I can't game in a room with hardware that's that hot.
@sayedengine
@sayedengine 10 місяців тому
they can boost performance of 4060 nut they want to sold all old generation from 3060ti and 3070
@jmtradbr
@jmtradbr 10 місяців тому
It's because the 3090 was a joke.
@cmorait
@cmorait 9 місяців тому
For sff builds and for systems that are used in RVs, boats, tiny houses that rely 1000% in solar the power efficiency is by far very important as they approach gaiming laptop levels if you undervolt them too.
@topouzidd
@topouzidd 10 місяців тому
My 11 year old HD7950 has a 384bit memory interface (240 GB/s), which is the reason I haven’t changed GPU to date. If I had to get a card that would handle the next 11 years, it surely wouldn’t be a 128bit 4060. And the $450 I paid for that card back in the day was a lot, but justified after 11 years and still running strong. I wouldn’t pay $450 (street price) for a subpar 4060 that won’t even make it over three years.
@wingman-1977
@wingman-1977 10 місяців тому
Kudos to GN & HWUB for standing their ground and not bowing to Nvidia.
@puppy.shorts
@puppy.shorts 10 місяців тому
Very Very Disappointed from Jayz2cents and I Unsubbed him
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 10 місяців тому
@@puppy.shorts In some ways, I feel like I can't be mad at him. He told right at the beginning he was restricted in many ways. It's not like he acted like stupid and tried to sell this shit. He tried to be neutral and told many times he could do this or that. And if he can get some money why not.
@69Xerosis
@69Xerosis 10 місяців тому
It's throwing hwub under the bus for me.. That was a bit shady, will he now call gn a salty channel for saying the exact same thing?
@achim07
@achim07 10 місяців тому
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 Jayz business is built on information, entertainment and consumer trust. If you see another "unimpressive" (at best) product and chose to basically sell it to your viewers it's not a good look. And the problem with trust is: It's lost a lot easier than gained.
@keech100
@keech100 10 місяців тому
@@puppy.shorts Think it depends on the Size of the creator I know RandomgamingHD did it but hes quite small dosnt really do benchmarks so im not too annoyed at that but bigger channels should no better than to be marketing
@dkat1108
@dkat1108 10 місяців тому
No wonder EVGA left Nvidia. I could not imagine trying to deal with Nvidia's bs. must of been pretty bad and getting worse.
@creed5248
@creed5248 10 місяців тому
I plan on buying whatever EVGA makes in the future - to do my part in supporting a quality oriented company that has good business ethics ...
@laeknir
@laeknir 10 місяців тому
We need to publicly belly ache EVGA into start making AMD cards.
@Apollo-Computers
@Apollo-Computers 10 місяців тому
@@creed5248 well in that gn extras video, evgas bios engineers are leaving the company. At least those top two.
@TRC_WA
@TRC_WA 10 місяців тому
4090 is the only card worth buying… and with the recent news of the 5000 series not until 2025 it makes it an even better option. 60% performance improvement over last gen… no other 4000 series card can make that claim. 😂
@johnhenderson7285
@johnhenderson7285 10 місяців тому
@@SinexTitanwhy? Intel is crap.
@kainesalvation4426
@kainesalvation4426 10 місяців тому
Thank you for always including FFXIV benchmark, you are probably the only channel that has a comparison for this benchmark, and it helps a lot. 😊
@Jakapoa
@Jakapoa 8 місяців тому
As a 1060 user looking at new cards, this was quite a nice surprise to see the 1060 still mentioned in comparisons.👍
@bobnolin9155
@bobnolin9155 8 місяців тому
Me too! Sniff, just put the old boy out to pasture. The new 4060 is five times faster and doesn't complain like the old 1060.
@garrettkajmowicz
@garrettkajmowicz 10 місяців тому
The large cache with a reduced memory bus is primarily an advantage when working with small datasets. Which is either going to be low-res rendering. Or crypto-mining. They built a card to do something nobody is really interested in anymore.
@gardotd426
@gardotd426 10 місяців тому
Crypto mining no longer exists
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 10 місяців тому
Silicon design is a slow train, what is released now started development 2-3 years ago
@yukisnoww
@yukisnoww 10 місяців тому
@@gardotd426 my guy hasnt seen the underworld
@johncanning6428
@johncanning6428 10 місяців тому
@@gardotd426 It will go berserk again next year
@gardotd426
@gardotd426 10 місяців тому
@@johncanning6428 thats literally impossible. There are no relevant cryptocurrencies that even SUPPORT GPU mining. You don't know what you're talking about.
@subrezon
@subrezon 10 місяців тому
Would have been fun to compare the 4060 to 5700XT, an 8GB $400 card from 4 years ago.
@gardotd426
@gardotd426 10 місяців тому
I mean it's a 1080/2070. So take the 2060 benchmarks here and add 15-20%, only without any ray tracing.
@spacechannelfiver
@spacechannelfiver 10 місяців тому
Just use the 6600XT as a proxy for the 5700XT, they are very close in raster.
@commander3494
@commander3494 10 місяців тому
@@spacechannelfiver yep. and the 6600XT isnt far off of the 7600 too, so in conclusion the 2 generations old 5700XT which you can get used for ~200€ gets quite close to the brand new 4060 for 50% more money
@walter1824
@walter1824 10 місяців тому
​@@gardotd426You mean 1080TI
@davidbrennan5
@davidbrennan5 10 місяців тому
The 3060 beats the 4060 in some tests lol. Almost every 40 series card is gimped in some way this generation. The 4080 isn't bad but $500 jump in price over the 3080 is nuts.
@mr220v
@mr220v 4 місяці тому
I seem to remember these same reviewers complaining about the 1650. Now It's the most common gaming card in use. But yeah, when a manufacturer releases a sub 150 watt card, the reviewers do nothing but whine.
@KrivTheBard
@KrivTheBard 8 місяців тому
Thank you SO much for including the 1060. That's my current card, and now that I'm looking to upgrade, it's so wonderful having direct comparisons
@OilFreeFeathers
@OilFreeFeathers 7 місяців тому
You will never be a miqo'te. Go back to second life.
@RichardJNeo
@RichardJNeo 10 місяців тому
They (GPU makers) keep leaning on the fact that 1080p is the most popular resolution and it’s like yeah, duh, because most gamers want 1440p minimum but can’t afford to go bigger and you all refuse to bring higher resolution capabilities to lower end cards even though you easily could and actually set a new standard for games but no. So they’re stuck there because of you and you keep leaning on that fact to excuse your lack of improvements. Hence, time vortex!
@hammerth1421
@hammerth1421 10 місяців тому
Most PC gamers have a whole-system budget of about $1000 US. That's why everyone is still running 1080p and why gaming laptops are so popular even though they're by no means an ideal gaming experience.
@solorobo
@solorobo 10 місяців тому
6700xt says hello.
@EdisArchive
@EdisArchive 10 місяців тому
Honestly I just wish monitors weren't as expensive.
@WilReid
@WilReid 10 місяців тому
Yep. It's a problem, or at least situation, that they had a significant hand in creating, and now they will milk it for every $ it's worth. 1080p was the goal over a decade ago.
@evilleader1991
@evilleader1991 10 місяців тому
It seems like both AMD and Nvidia is trying to segment their cards into resolution tiers. They want to create budget cards for 1080p, 1440p for mid-tier and 4k for the highest tier. They are gimping the cards artificially by restricting vram and memory bus etc.
@andrewjmarx
@andrewjmarx 10 місяців тому
I'm one of the many still rocking a 1060, so I appreciate it being included in the benchmarks. I've actually specifically been waiting for a new $300 dollar card with a 100-125W tdp for years, and completely skipped the 2000 and 3000 series because of how much the power consumption at the $300 price point kept skyrocketing, so it's nice to see a return to that. But of course, they had to F* it up with the small memory bus and reduction in memory from the 3060.
@carriebartkowiak
@carriebartkowiak 10 місяців тому
I'm with you...working with a 1070 8GB in my laptop from 2017. It still does fantastic on everything but rendering Stable Diffusion images quickly. Looks like I'll either keep rocking it for a couple more years, or go with a 3060 12GB desktop setup.
@rhoharane
@rhoharane 10 місяців тому
1060 represent! I would have said every sentence you said and it correctly applies to me. But to add, it's not just the cost of powering the GPU, it's also the kind of PSU I would need to get, and the amount of heat it would be blowing into the room in this already-hot climate. I'd be paying for the AC to offset the heat if the TDP was too high.
@koomo801
@koomo801 10 місяців тому
@@rhoharane 750i here! Building a new rig this week...going with a 5600G for now and will swap that out for a better CPU/GPU combo later...looking like another year's wait should do it, and meanwhile there are a lot of games to catch up on even from just going from a 8400Duo/750i to a 5600G.
@cole-nq1ru
@cole-nq1ru 10 місяців тому
Yup. Nvidia had a potential big win here with the power consumption. And then they did Nvidia things...
@Shyzenth
@Shyzenth 10 місяців тому
You can get a 3060 TI rn for around 260 on second hand market and undervolt it to draw about 160watts full load.
@WalterDeans
@WalterDeans 10 місяців тому
24:04 FYI The frametime graph was missing. Thanks for all the detailed info!
@jugramhaschwalth5811
@jugramhaschwalth5811 10 місяців тому
Couple months ago build a dream system for myself and usually i dont see changing/upgrading anything for the next couple of generations. got myself a ryzen 7700 non X and 6950xt and i really dont see the need to replace them for the next 4-5 years. (might need to replace my 1080p 165hz monitor to 1440p tho at some point :D)
@fudwgemar
@fudwgemar 10 місяців тому
i love how each time a new card get reviewed it shows how much the intel cards getting better over time .
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 10 місяців тому
Aging like fine scotch.
@adamford4167
@adamford4167 10 місяців тому
Aging like a fine 4970k. What a beautiful era of cpu.
@arkgaharandan5881
@arkgaharandan5881 10 місяців тому
same at this rate intel will win.
@tradingnichols2255
@tradingnichols2255 10 місяців тому
@@adamford4167 They did, didn't they?
@tradingnichols2255
@tradingnichols2255 10 місяців тому
Yes it is!
@Vinterloft
@Vinterloft 10 місяців тому
You would probably help a lot of newbies out by specifying what bus width actually means. 128bit bus means 4 physical memory packages (32bit X 4 = 128) and this helps to illustrate why these cards should be cheaper, because they have far reduced cost due to fewer components, not just the memory itself, but the memory VRM and the heatsink mass, number of thermal pads, it all adds up.
@timmyp6297
@timmyp6297 10 місяців тому
Hey they are the "best offender" regardless. NOBODY is looking to help noobies, and I firmly believe that is why we are where we are. On the other hand, the noobies are a generation of p*****s that feel emotional pain if their hardware lacks a feature, so you have to walk that line as a tech channel. FFS: We can reconstruct a 4k image with only 1080p resolution data. Its 2-3x as fast as raw rasterization. It looks just as good, sometimes better and sometimes worse. Its probably the biggest perfomant-oriented feature ever created, by far. Should be the biggest, most hyped feature in this hobby's history, and would have 10 years ago... Today, its all about those feelings!
@dex6316
@dex6316 10 місяців тому
You know what else has a 128b memory bus? The RTX 3050. I don’t see this card coming in at 250 when it’s using a cutdown variant of the AD107 die, and underclocked memory to reduce board costs.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 10 місяців тому
Also fewer PCB layers, potentially. Or less copper wiring at the very least.
@BleedForTheWorld
@BleedForTheWorld 10 місяців тому
@@dex6316 amazing stuff, isn't it?
@laci6242
@laci6242 10 місяців тому
It even looks cheap, without labeling you would have a hard time telling this apart from a 1650
@harleyspawn
@harleyspawn 10 місяців тому
I feel like the 12gb RTX 3060 at $320 was a better value when it launched (if you got one at MSRP), and i like it's performance at 1440p in modern games.
@wafflecat6357
@wafflecat6357 10 місяців тому
I have a RTX 3060, and while it's not the most high performing card out there, I am happy with what I got. I can play most games at mid to high quality in 1440p with 60+ fps.
@047Kenny
@047Kenny 10 місяців тому
Yeah honestly that’s so fire, I do love how much watts my 4070 saves tho for real. But 12gb 3060 at $320 is honestly such a great deal
@mrkrukindahouse4612
@mrkrukindahouse4612 9 місяців тому
Wish they gave the 3060 ti the same treatment with the VRAM.
@BonW
@BonW 8 місяців тому
I also got a 3060 12GB, and I then found out 5 days later that the 4060 was coming out that day, at the time I knew VERY little about GPUs, so I was a bit upset at myself for missing the 4060. But now after having some more knowledge on GPUs I don't think I missed out on much, honestly. Sure the frame gen and DLSS 3 is very good and all, but it's not the end of the world having to put a medium preset over high, or go to 1080p from 1440p for performance. Plus I have higher VRAM and in some cases the 4060 caps out with VRAM and performs worse at 1440p, or so I've heard, which feels absurd to me. I'll probably wait on swapping until there's a 5060 out there, or maybe even 6060.
@longhotsummergames
@longhotsummergames 8 місяців тому
I think the benchmarks would be more legible if you put all the numbers on the right side in columns. This way you can compare visually and see numbers at the same time, with less clutter.
@dj4aces
@dj4aces 10 місяців тому
"People not buying stuff makes the price go down"... absolutely. Both Nvidia and AMD have put out hardware, especially this generation, that isn't worth their MSRP. I sincerely hope both companies wake the hell up and realize that most of their clientele aren't made out of money, and most of us who aren't walking, talking wallets aren't gonna buy at these prices. The theme of this generation continues to be "do better, guys". AMD, Nvidia, wake the hell up already, or the losses in gaming revenue will continue.
@mjc0961
@mjc0961 10 місяців тому
"AMD, Nvidia, wake the hell up already, or the losses in gaming revenue will continue." Here's the problem: neither of them care. They're both far more interested in selling parts to massive companies for use with AI. Insert clip of Jensen and his weird AI karaoke here.
@thenic123
@thenic123 10 місяців тому
CEO Quote: "The more you buy, the more save" Me: You smoking something Mate?"
@OneDollaBill
@OneDollaBill 10 місяців тому
The fact that this has 128bit bus makes this like xx50 tier card or even lower. This should be no more than 220$ max. And what makes it even worse is the 7600 has MSRP of 250$ it performs very similarly.
@AlfaPro1337
@AlfaPro1337 10 місяців тому
7600 has the same bit bus width and 8GB.
@bluerendar2194
@bluerendar2194 10 місяців тому
@@AlfaPro1337 It's also cheaper, more warranting that price. Still not great, but *better* at least. As stocks of previous gens run out, at the
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 10 місяців тому
Spoiler alert: all the 4000 cards below the 4090 have been dropped down a tier but kept their old naming scheme and a tasty price bump or reduced VRAM.
@AlfaPro1337
@AlfaPro1337 10 місяців тому
@@bluerendar2194 Cheaper due to being less feature. Turning on all of the eye candy for 3A games, the 7600 looks bad. And it's since the 20 series, the x60 ONLY, no Ti, or extra stuff, it's still MSRP US$300. Even going back to the 1060 6GB, aftermarket version is going to cost way more than the FE version of US$300.
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
Lmao 260 is the lowest it is and that's not a constant price. Not worth buying it vs the 4060
@JikoMuskato
@JikoMuskato 10 місяців тому
Yeah, I bought the 6800 XT earlier this year, Pretty happy with it and no regrets even after watching recent generation cards as they are either worse or noticably more expensive.
@fruitbatcat
@fruitbatcat 10 місяців тому
Glad you mentioned the power efficiency - that's a big concern for me with upgrading and why decided to miss this gen, power super expensive in UK and PC on all day even when not gaming. Just wasteful.
@junko4166
@junko4166 10 місяців тому
Why didn't AMD just release the 7600 for 249 out of the gate is beyond me. It's like they're allergic to good marketing😅
@BenedictPenguin
@BenedictPenguin 10 місяців тому
initial adopters profit + when the price do fell down, now its a 'good deal'
@someguy9175
@someguy9175 10 місяців тому
AMD has a product manager serious need of being letting go kekw
@SmolderingFire
@SmolderingFire 10 місяців тому
Some already 250, and will faling once 6600/XT stock shelves will be empty
@alderwield9636
@alderwield9636 10 місяців тому
Marketing strats
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 10 місяців тому
Because they didn't know nvidia was going to drop the 4060 for 300. They probably expected 350 before they announced it after AMD announced the 7600.
@Aotearas
@Aotearas 10 місяців тому
Man, that's a pretty pricey 4050 ... and yeah, this just reinforces my opinion that Nvidia simply downtiered every card except their halo product. In relation to performance, the 4080 would be closer to a xx70 card compared to the xx90 performance, the 4070 Ti is more of a xx60 Ti, the 4070 a xx60 and the 4060 looks like a xx50 card. The huge performance gap between the 4090 and 4080 also indicates that they simply skipped a proper xx80 SKU, that might come later as the 4080 Ti, sold at premium xx80 Ti prices of course. Nvidia has just straight up been overcharging and underdelivering this entire generation with the sole exception of the impressive 4090, but that's not relevant for ~98% of the customer base because very few people can afford or even need that card.
@ResidentWeevil2077
@ResidentWeevil2077 10 місяців тому
I don't care about the 4090, especially not for $2.5-2.6k CAD. The only ones I see actually needing a card that powerful are professionals and content creators; the average gamer doesn't need the 4090, and whoever does have one just means they own it the same way an average Joe buys a Lamborghini: for bragging rights.
@sephondranzer
@sephondranzer 10 місяців тому
It’s also not relevant because it’s a bit of a paper launch. I can’t find an Nvidia FE 4090 for less than $1700 - and these are all likely used despite being labeled new. Nvidia will not budge on this as long as they are envied.
@santyagobustamante7369
@santyagobustamante7369 10 місяців тому
and 98% is generous, in reality is more than 99.9% of the consumer base than can't afford a 4090 and that's not an exageration that's reality looking at numbers so except for the top 0.01% of the consumers the 40 series is absurdly overpriced
@Frzned9x
@Frzned9x 10 місяців тому
@@ResidentWeevil2077 then you want to care about the 4060. The 60 has always been the most popular card for mid-end gaming and this is just disgusting
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
Lmao still a better buy than a $260+ rx 7600
@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace
@spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace 10 місяців тому
A point in power efficiency that I didn't see brought up is small form factor PCs. Low power draw decreases noise emission and heat buildup in small cases with limited airflow. This also allows for smaller cards compared to last generation. I'm sure many people are glad they can get an RTX 4060TI in ITX length, and many more are probably hoping for a 75W RTX 4050 in low profile format to replace GTX 1650 or RTX A2000 in their HTPC or Optiplexes.
@Antisocialnerd2
@Antisocialnerd2 9 місяців тому
That 4050 is EXACTLY what I'm hoping for to replace my 1650. You are spot on
@crashgamesuhd
@crashgamesuhd 10 місяців тому
First of, thank you for great work! I have a proposal for an additional segment in your videos, for which testing should not be too difficult: idle power consumption of CPUs and GPUs. I live in Germany with electricity currently costing 0.44€/kWh I am probably not speaky only for myself when I say that most of the time using my computer not spent gaming or on productivity, but on mundane tasks such as browsing the internet, watching videos, looking and moving files and other such activities that consume close to no power. I am therefore very interested in the idle power consumption of different products. For example, my ... i9 12900 consumed 9W idle r9 5900X consumed 40W idle 3080 consumes 90W idle there are things that would have been very good to know beforehand. These 40W + 90W add up to 130W, which is more or less what I measured going into the PSU (~145W idle) What does this cost compared to a ~10W idle 1060 6GB and a ~10W 13500? Assuming a PSU loss of 50% at low power, this would be a comparison between 145W and 40W idle. Thats ~100W idle difference. 100W = 0.1kW My computer runs idle for about 8 hours a day (I am a remote university student) 0.1 kW * 365,25 days/year * 8 h/day * 0.44€/kWh = 128,57€/year IDLE power consumption. I believe this is something one should be able to factor in when purchasing a product and getting this information is currently very difficult.
@MeTheOneth
@MeTheOneth 10 місяців тому
The biggest takeaway I have from all the RTX 4060 reviews is Intel Arc hype.
@__aceofspades
@__aceofspades 10 місяців тому
Yup, Intel is the only one that is offering a good value in terms of price, performance and features.
@schnitz5450
@schnitz5450 10 місяців тому
Australia's GPU prices have done nothing but go up over the last couple of years. A 4060 is around $550-625 AUD, with a 4070 costing $1100 minimum, according to PC Part Picker taking into account local vendors as well. The previous 3060 at launch was very briefly $350 AUD but has since risen due to NVIDIA's market manipulation. The future for buying a GPU in Australia is becoming staggeringly expensive, and people like myself are holding on to older "functional" products that still perform well within the 1080p and medium graphics settings range.
@SwingArmCity
@SwingArmCity 10 місяців тому
Why is that? Australia have big import tax?
@hoilst265
@hoilst265 10 місяців тому
@@SwingArmCity Australia Tax.
@rhoharane
@rhoharane 10 місяців тому
4060ti is currently hovering around USD$500 and $600 in the Philippines, about the same as the 3060ti. There's no way we're getting the 4060 anywhere close to $300 A lot of people are just switching to console tbh.
@somefuckstolemyname
@somefuckstolemyname 10 місяців тому
Buy a 6700xt, it's pretty well priced in Aus right now
@Kaleziz
@Kaleziz 10 місяців тому
Import taxes, inflation and weak AUS dollar is a bad combination. You can practically watch your buying power fall in real time.
@DRum886
@DRum886 10 місяців тому
I had an RX560 in my older computer that I had built in 2017. My upgrade was to a 3060 just a week ago and built the whole thing myself for the first time. I was able to squeeze 80FPS out of Cyberpunk at 1440p with RT on and after adjusting some settings. Kind of wish Nvidia and AMD would have better cards and price points, but they bet on appeasing the crypto bros first.
@PlantainSupernova
@PlantainSupernova 10 місяців тому
Kudos to the editors for adding more legible highlights and color coordinated bars in their charts during comparison.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 10 місяців тому
Did that about 7 years ago!
@PlantainSupernova
@PlantainSupernova 10 місяців тому
@@GamersNexus Damn, I don't know why I only noticed now, went back to the first few vids I saw from about 4 years ago and they're there. Maybe the hella computex stuff made me forget about them. But these darker background ones are new for sure, when you compared the card specs with a white hightlight.
@JonoSSD
@JonoSSD 10 місяців тому
I hope Intel can keep making and improving their GPUs, we desperately need a solid third player in this market, especially in the mid-range.
@Kapono5150
@Kapono5150 10 місяців тому
Nvidia users your doing Great 👍. Continue allowing the 40 series cards to sit on store shelves.
@fridaycaliforniaa236
@fridaycaliforniaa236 10 місяців тому
Yup. Boycott ScamVidia
@arthurlamy5535
@arthurlamy5535 10 місяців тому
The power argument is missing one crucial point. In moderate to cold climates there is a significant portion of a year when you need to use some sort of heater. At those times the card directly behaves as part of your home heating system. And that offsets corresponding costs.
@sliphstream4927
@sliphstream4927 10 місяців тому
My RTX 3060 (paired with an i5-11400) still runs everything just fine. The 4060 just doesn't seem to be enough of an improvement to warrant the cost. I with GN on this one. Sticking with my current system that I am happy with.
@NutellaCrepe
@NutellaCrepe 10 місяців тому
At the time of this comment, there's a 3060 Ti on sale at Best Buy for $279.99. Price/performance wise there's zero reason to get a 4060 over the previous gen stuff. HOWEVER, with that low power consumption and heat output, AIBs would be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't make a low profile version of the 4060 to win over the SFF builders.
@PackardKotch
@PackardKotch 10 місяців тому
About 100+w in an sff system could be a challenge to cool down, though I can't say I wouldn't love to see it happen, I know that the most we can hope for is a 4050 low profile.
@flatmotion1
@flatmotion1 10 місяців тому
​@@PackardKotchI'm running a 3090 in a sff case on water at under 55C under full load. You can put 4090 I sff cases like the Dan c4. But if you want to go ssff then you need something like that
@BeardGrizzly
@BeardGrizzly 10 місяців тому
Enjoying my 3070ti for the coming years. I held on to my 1080 as long as i could.
@volvo09
@volvo09 10 місяців тому
I would not switch out a 3 series card for a 4 series either.
@buzzdodson3835
@buzzdodson3835 10 місяців тому
if i could i would have done the same thing but i couldn't get a 3070ti for a reasonable price so i ended up with a 6700XT
@LordCohliani
@LordCohliani 10 місяців тому
I've got a 3070 that I overclocked a bit. 1440p monitor. It's decent enough. I'll probably wait for the next generation.
@MrSystane
@MrSystane 10 місяців тому
My Vega64 died start of the pandemic and I borrowed a friend's 1070. This thing has been holding strong and I am terrified of the day it starts to die. I am not ready to pay these prices to upgrade 😂
@kenos911
@kenos911 10 місяців тому
@@MrSystane I am, since it seems like it’s only gonna get worse lol…
@junk3996
@junk3996 10 місяців тому
im building myself a budget gaming PC right now (just finished purchasing all parts) to replace my aging and overheating laptop, and i chose to go with the 6700 xt. picked it up for 450 cad which is equivalent to 340 usd. the more i keep prying into comparisons the more confident i am with the decision i made. its so much more difficult to make a decision now-a-days though, since there are so many damn cards. there are basically 4 other cards i could have pulled the trigger on with less than a 10% performance difference in either direction and around a 5-10% price difference, again in either direction. but given that i want to more-so step into 1440p gaming and could essentially leave RTX, im happy with my choice.
@libaf5471
@libaf5471 10 місяців тому
Is GN planning to do frame buffer testing in the future? HUB had a video a bit ago about texture quality drops with 8gb cards with high settings (even in 1080p) when the frame buffer fills. That doesn't really show in a graph with just fps.
@slickrounder6045
@slickrounder6045 10 місяців тому
@14:30 Btw there were Intel Drivers today that improved their performance in F1 2022 by a decent margin (up to 36% at 1080p, and 20% at 1440p), making them more competitive than they were previously.
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 10 місяців тому
@@telleva7890 nah, 10 is way too much. They just need better support for other APIs
@butterfingersman
@butterfingersman 10 місяців тому
@@telleva7890 disagree heavily
@bleack8701
@bleack8701 10 місяців тому
@@telleva7890 that's not an issue. AMD is close to Nvidia this gen so depending on how things go in the future we might see AMD catching up to Nvidia in terms of raw performance. The advantage AMD has is that they're switching to chiplets and that they already have experience with chiplet architecture, meanwhile Nvidia has these huge, complicated and expensive to produce monolithic boards. There's something to he said about AMD's ability to deliver 80% of Nvidia's performance with an architecture that's far smaller than Nvidia's in terms of die size. Having a smaller die size is helpful because it makes scaling easier long term. Unless Nvidia makes drastic changes we might see them slowing down performance gain gen over gen (which we're kind of seeing already) That's why I think AMD can match Nvidia at the top at some point soon. As for Intel, all they have to do is make sure they have good support for all relevant APIs and then they can keep launching midrange GPUs until they're ready to go harder. At this point Nvidia's main advantage is their software and they've worked on it for decades so it'll be difficult for others to compete in that aspect. But in terms of gaming all of that is kind of irrelevant
@jdberdugo
@jdberdugo 10 місяців тому
Waiting definitely pays off. Sold my 3070 for $330 and almost paid $600 for the 4070. Waited, waited, waited until I got an Asus Dual OC 4070 for $480 in a quick promo. I'd say that's a much fairer price than what they started with.
@Zapdos0145
@Zapdos0145 10 місяців тому
this is the ONLY advantage. and the one that the customers have the best. is time. companies have to meet their margins, we don’t. if you need something RIGHT NOW at this moment there are cheaper options. if you need something better then you can wait. 4070 is a no brained for sub 500 bucks that’s an absolutely crazy value proposition
@chillnspace777
@chillnspace777 10 місяців тому
That's not bad
@caseywilkinson3626
@caseywilkinson3626 10 місяців тому
Love the ad at 27:25 where on the NewEgg page it says "GAME ON AMD" and shows a 12900KS
@arkh1730
@arkh1730 5 місяців тому
i bought a 4060 and i can say im pretty happy. its an amazing 1080p card. cyberpunk maxed out with all ray tracing options stable 60fps . looks so pretty :)
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 3 місяці тому
Same here. I like it's power efficiency, too. Although I'd have happily paid extra for 16gb of RAM.
@loongcat6500
@loongcat6500 Місяць тому
Do you have any problems with the shorter memory bus or the 8gb of vram? I'm on the fence about getting one and a lot of people seem to be talking about those two things. My 1060 6gb still works for what I use it for but I'd like to start playing some newer games. 1080p, ryzen 5 3600
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 Місяць тому
@@loongcat6500 well, it's difficult to know because there's no way to measure or diagnose that. I can't compare it to an identical card without those. I can tell you why it's designed like that - it's designed to be good at 1080p gaming, but not at AI creativity because Nvidia don't want to canabalize that market with cheaper gaming GPU's. It can do that, for the most part, but it's performance isn't professional-level. With 16gb or 24gb of ram and a wider bus and that power efficiency it would be great at it. It's a fine 1080p gaming card with great power efficiency that can do AI art just fine with some care. You have to decide if that's what you want.
@arkh1730
@arkh1730 Місяць тому
@@loongcat6500 for 1080p it runs every game maxed out 60+ fps, Hogwarts legacy, Cyberpunk2077, Immortlas of Aveum etc...your CPU may bottleneck it a bit but yes its very worth it. I reccomend it 100% over the 3060 as you can even play 1080p 120 fps with FG in any current title.Now, in a game like Ratchet and Clank Rift apart with ray tracing ON it will spike and stutter a bit with High settings but its a port from PS5, on Cyberpunk2077 i can play it 1080p RT Overdrive + FG at 100+ FPS...CS 2 i can play it locked 138 fps on my 144hz monitor with max settings so its really good.
@singular9
@singular9 10 місяців тому
Buy 6600xt honestly. Best budget GPU at this point.
@solo6965
@solo6965 10 місяців тому
agreed
@Erik_Dz
@Erik_Dz 10 місяців тому
if you can afford it, 310$ for the 6700xt is hands down the best deal right now for a new card. Or getting a used 3070 for around 310$~ though used is always a gamble.
@franciskuntzjm
@franciskuntzjm 10 місяців тому
We have to hold on our bucks and keep our outdated cards, the more we wait, the more we win. Those flash sales that they did a couple weeks ago are proof that it's working. Keep holding my friends
@vaksjdfkj
@vaksjdfkj 10 місяців тому
Agreed
@abdullahgawish722
@abdullahgawish722 10 місяців тому
What if I don't have any cards lol
@franciskuntzjm
@franciskuntzjm 10 місяців тому
@@abdullahgawish722 Of course it doesn't apply for people who are making their first build or if their current GPU died. But if you say that because you are playing on iGPU, you are mad but you have all my respect sir
@JanM2
@JanM2 10 місяців тому
The more you wait, the more you save
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 10 місяців тому
It's not that much of a challenge when the needle barely moves in the mainstream segment. We're basically in the GPU version of the post-Sandy Bridge slump.
@Baljindersingh-nb9jy
@Baljindersingh-nb9jy 10 місяців тому
Thank you for honest review. U saved hard earned money of lot's of people.
@RazMaster01
@RazMaster01 10 місяців тому
thanks for honest review tbh I already felt nvidia going this way since I saw 4070 Ti pricing and 4070 performance
@STILEXFPS
@STILEXFPS 10 місяців тому
these companies are getting wayy too comfrtable with doing nothing, hope intel puts up a good fight
@__aceofspades
@__aceofspades 10 місяців тому
The greed from AMD and Nvidia have already made the A750 and A770 extremely competitive. Personally id say the A750 is the better buy than a 4060 or RX 7600. Hopefully Battlemage offers the same great value that Alchemist has, because its clear that AMD and Nvidia are trying to milk consumers.
@AyuwuSuperFan
@AyuwuSuperFan 10 місяців тому
@@__aceofspades amd? they literally have the best value lmao love how you clowns conveniently ignore the myriad of issues with intel keep sucking them off
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 10 місяців тому
Twice the performance and price vs 1060 but only 33% more vram. Classy NVIDIA with the planned obsolescence.
@Jmcgee1125
@Jmcgee1125 10 місяців тому
Took a gamble and bought a 6700 XT a couple weeks ago (from a 1660S that was no longer meeting my needs) since I figured the 4060 would suck. It doesn't suck as much as I expected it, but the 6700 XT is definitely the way to go imo (if you can find one at the $340 mark or lower, of course). I do miss NVENC (I actually am a person who'd make use of it, now I'm on AMF for instant replay and x264 for standard encode), but the power of this card and the surprisingly quiet fans under medium load because of the downclocking is... well, I'll tell myself it's worth the tradeoff. Also 12GB of VRAM, which is nice future proofing - we'll see how quickly or (likely) not 8GB becomes a widespread problem.
@junk3996
@junk3996 10 місяців тому
also decided on a 6700xt at a price equivalent to 340 usd. can't wait till i can build my rig and get it running. value is the name of the game in gaming right now, hardware and software, so im not disappointed with lower RTX performance as majority of my games can't enable it anyway (outside of Riftbreaker which i'll be getting this summer)
@Jmcgee1125
@Jmcgee1125 10 місяців тому
@@junk3996 I do absolutely 0 raytracing so that was entirely not a concern for me. All about that raster baby.
@Frazec_Atsjenkov
@Frazec_Atsjenkov 9 місяців тому
The power efficiency gain is pretty spectacular. That could very well be the deciding factor for me considering the price of power where I live.
@Antisocialnerd2
@Antisocialnerd2 9 місяців тому
Yeah I got the 1650 for power reasons as well FPS per watt is nearly my most important factor
@philippengl2342
@philippengl2342 10 місяців тому
Welcome to the review of what should have been a rtx 4050 at $200-220. 107 die ✅️ 128 bit bus ✅️ Performance a bit better than last gen 60 tier card ✅️
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
At least at isn't as bad as the rx 7500
@johnnypopstar
@johnnypopstar 10 місяців тому
*than
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 10 місяців тому
​@@iequalsnoobThe 7500 hasn't been announced yet, afaik. Certainly not released.
@hasnihossainsami8375
@hasnihossainsami8375 10 місяців тому
@@iequalsnoob 7500 doesn't exist yet though. And in case you misspelled the 7600, it's in the same ball park with the same 8GB VRAM. Heck it even gets beats beaten by the 7600 in some scenarios, so the 4060 doesn't win it all. All that while being (realistically) $50-60 cheaper, makes the 7600 the far better buy, if we were in a vacuum. Fortunately we're not, and the RX 6700 and 6700XT exist, and they're the best option at around $300. Get them while stocks last.
@damasterpiece08
@damasterpiece08 10 місяців тому
thanks for including more older cards (5600xt, 2060, etc)
@genrr2361
@genrr2361 10 місяців тому
Would be interesting to see this against 2080s at 4k
@Mrbones1102
@Mrbones1102 10 місяців тому
Still using 980ti. I had wanted to buy a 3080 when they came out but "paper launch" and all that. Now, seeing cards released these days that are aiming for 1080p, looks like I had gotten a 40 series all the way back in 2016!
@fightclubmiqo
@fightclubmiqo 10 місяців тому
I'm in the exact same some boat but on the 1080. I just can't get excited over Nvidia right now, the prices are redicious and I refuse to pay them. But of course this also affects the 2nd hand market too...
@Dfm253
@Dfm253 10 місяців тому
Honestly the used market is the only worthwhile option right now.
@OugaBoogaShockwave
@OugaBoogaShockwave 10 місяців тому
@@Dfm253 not even used market is worth you, you don't know how long it will last.
@faru2524
@faru2524 10 місяців тому
Great review as always, but as a 3070 owner I always miss it in the charts.
@mho...
@mho... 4 місяці тому
as very satisfied,15+ something years ScytheMugen cpu cooler user, i feel the pain, of a much appreciated product/company never being part of benchmarks, feels weird!
@rendy5231
@rendy5231 10 місяців тому
Hi Steve and Team, great video... like always. I want to point out, NIVIDA did not drop the MSRP for the 60series in Europe.... 3060 MSRP 330€ / 4060 MSRP 330€. So NVIDIA is ABSOLUTLEY DOING EVERYTHING to keep the prices high and disguising it. Adding Layer after Layer, which an average consumer doesnt check. Also the power prices in the "Less Power - Slide" are total BS. The max price for a kWh in Germany is 0.4€ (since January 2023 by Law!)... the average price is 0.35€ and the latest price is 0.28€. I life in Germany and i am paying 0.275€. The prices for the UK also seem to be totally out of Date... much lower now. This graphics card is a 4050 and NIVIDIA could sell it for a price of 180€, which yould be a fair deal (for customer and NVIDIA). Even the "critical" reviews do not drive home this crucial point! Please dont have empathy for any marketing BS. Also: no Investor will leave NVIDIA, because they are offering fair priced end consumer products! Every Manager who belives a statment like this is simply admitting to be bad at his job... or lying and greedy! Like all end customer, all investors can be "tricked". Anyway... like all companies reaching 80% of market share... NIVDIA will also start to struggle hard in about 3 - 5 years, when the self inflicted disapoitnment from investors and end customer kicks in. Hopefully with INTEL in the 3rd gen and AMD doing AMD-stuff, we will have a healthy market for GPUs back then aswell. Looking forward to it.
@galeazzi_eth
@galeazzi_eth 10 місяців тому
This makes the Arc 750 look good lmao
@franciskuntzjm
@franciskuntzjm 10 місяців тому
Feel that it's gonna be a fun review. Thank you for the good work
@masterbenjamin3348
@masterbenjamin3348 8 місяців тому
Is the RTX4060 a good alternative if you mainly play on a console and want a graphics card in the PC for gaming. Play 1080P 75Hz and currently use the IGPU UHD 770. Had an RTX 4090 for a short time but sold it again because I mainly play on consoles and want to play strategy on the PC, older or modern games in FullHD.
@TonyChan-eh3nz
@TonyChan-eh3nz 8 місяців тому
No, just get ARC, a 6600xt/6650xt, a 6600, a 7600, a 3060ti or a 3060.
@Jwebbplayz
@Jwebbplayz 9 місяців тому
I was curious as to how my asus strix 2070 OC 8gb compares to the 4060, 4060ti in general.
@FawBio
@FawBio 10 місяців тому
4050 renamed to 4060 while asking for 4070 price.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 10 місяців тому
Seems to be the running theme of this generation.
@couriersix2443
@couriersix2443 10 місяців тому
Seems like the RX 7600 actually offers decent value for money at $250, at least in terms of gen over gen improvement. As well as when to compare it to higher end Turing cards like the 2080/2080 Super - or even midrange RDNA 2 like the RX 6700 10GB/6700 XT
@iequalsnoob
@iequalsnoob 10 місяців тому
Where is it 250? The cheapest any store has had it is 260 even look at the video and don't listen to his words
@couriersix2443
@couriersix2443 10 місяців тому
@@iequalsnoob oh, pfft my bad I was listening in the background with my phone off as I was on my way driving to work. But still, $260 isn't that bad either but I'll admit most people might as well go for the 6700 XT if they can get it for around $300. I personally paid $340 for an OC model 3060ti, but that was also over a year ago when they were still going for considerably more than that & I've been really happy all around. Haven't encountered a game that "uses more than 8GB of VRAM", and I run it at 1080p/1440p high (DLSS enabled when needed)
@anotherfinesith288
@anotherfinesith288 10 місяців тому
The 7600 basically matches the Cores/TMUs/ROPs of the 6600/6650 XT, but they down clocked it and called it an improved upon 6600, so AMD is doing the right thing by not calling it 7600 XT. While Nvidia takes the 3060 and cuts everything, including the bus and calls it a 4060/TI. They are basically pulling their 4080 12 GB shenanigans all over again with the 4060 and 4060 TI cards instead of calling them 4050 series like they should.
@couriersix2443
@couriersix2443 10 місяців тому
@@anotherfinesith288 yes, exactly. The 30 series was so successful because each tier of card (xx50, xx60, xx70, ti variants, etc) all either matched or surpassed the performance offered by each higher tier of the 20 series. Such as 3050 (which succeeded the 1650) > 1660 Super/1660ti, 3060 ≥ 2070, 3060ti ≥ 2080 Super, 3070 ≥ 2080ti, 3070ti+ offering higher performance not previously seen. The 40 series has been a bit of a mess overall, but mainly just the 4060/4060ti. 4070 and above appear to (somewhat) follow the same trend as the 30 series did with gen over gen improvement
@couriersix2443
@couriersix2443 10 місяців тому
@@N_N23296 at least it will be on the pallets stored in front of the 4060s and 4060ti's 🤣 Edit: idk why the RX 6700 (non-XT) isn't talked about as an alternative to the 7600, it's got 10GB of VRAM which is still better than 8GB and the two cards are basically equal in performance & price. Only real difference I could think of off the top of my head is that the 7600 *might* have slightly better RT performance as it's on RDNA 3 but realistically none of the entry to midrange AMD cards should be considered if you want a "good" RT experience. Their value lies in standard rasterization (and more VRAM with cards like the 6700 /6700 XT)
@skywalker1991
@skywalker1991 10 місяців тому
This review just made rx6700xt a better buy at $320.00 , used even cheaper . 12 GB vram , 25% better raster , similar RT perf, I will take more Vram any day .
@Tiki832
@Tiki832 10 місяців тому
5:43 Well I mean they did it with the RTX 2000 series when they shifted all the line-up designations to try make the terrible rasterization uplift from the GTX 1000 series look more than what it was by confusing people on which RTX 2000 card compared to what GTX 1000 card.
@GrzegorzMikos
@GrzegorzMikos 10 місяців тому
It seems buying 3060ti on launch was great decision, even after 4000 series full launch.
@Transari_
@Transari_ 10 місяців тому
I'm in the same boat heh, I think I'll be holding on to my 3060ti for a lonnnnggg while
@Louisthesaxman1
@Louisthesaxman1 10 місяців тому
I'm thinking of buying one new today. You can get them for £300 new in the UK
@Cognitoman
@Cognitoman 10 місяців тому
Is a 3060ti pretty good ?
@Louisthesaxman1
@Louisthesaxman1 10 місяців тому
@@Cognitoman yea
@Cognitoman
@Cognitoman 10 місяців тому
@@Louisthesaxman1 dude wasent it super expensive like awhile ago ? I looked online it’s like 275-300 dollars. Right now I have GeForce 1060 6GB. Would that be a big upgrade going from that to 3060ti?
@mikolajr0932
@mikolajr0932 10 місяців тому
Steve, please make chart FPS guidelines that could be related to perceive performance -> (30 minimum, 45 minimum for VRR, 60 normal, 90, 120, 144 etc) so it is easy to spot, what card is making to desired performance lvl. Great job as always!
@goryramsy
@goryramsy 10 місяців тому
I, for one, would be happy with a "economics of the computer market 2023" where you talk about trends like gpu prices, and the flood of nand flash on the market.
@DeadKnuckles
@DeadKnuckles 10 місяців тому
I’m curious what happened to any 3090s on the gpu benchmark?? because I’ve been thinking of getting a used one for around 600-700 and just put new thermal paste on it.
@cebri_
@cebri_ 10 місяців тому
Is it only me or suddenly the Intel cards are awesome value.
@ZeroHourProductions407
@ZeroHourProductions407 10 місяців тому
Reminder: all of their benchmarks fall to 1% of their results on a platform that doesnt have resizable bar enabled. Which makes no damned sense to me, but apparently intel wants to die on that hill.
@Mr.Genesis
@Mr.Genesis 10 місяців тому
@@ZeroHourProductions407 Nvidia also wants to die on the hill that you **should** use DLSS3 and Frame generation to top charts lol
@Kamilr97
@Kamilr97 10 місяців тому
​@@ZeroHourProductions407not a bad hill to die on, most budget card buyers will have a brand new PC with resizeable BAR included
@warmike
@warmike 10 місяців тому
@@Kamilr97 "most budget card buyers will have a brand new PC" press X to doubt
@TheShitpostExperience
@TheShitpostExperience 10 місяців тому
@@Mr.Genesis That would be a thing, if a majority of games supported DLSS3. None of the games I play support it so there's no value on me to get an 40 series card over a 30 series or an AMD card.
@GeneralGuts1
@GeneralGuts1 10 місяців тому
How well is 6700xt aging that's the takeaway for this video🤔
@Mike-Rowcok
@Mike-Rowcok 10 місяців тому
Got my sapphire 6700xt nitro when it came out and to think I was going to get a 1660 super for $300 less, glad I spent the extra dollars
@gorytarrafa
@gorytarrafa 10 місяців тому
Very surprised that you guys didn't put the RTX3070 on the comparison graphs .
@Snotkoglen
@Snotkoglen 10 місяців тому
You should have a time base instead of frame number on your frame time graphs. This will align all cards you are comparing. It can also reveal spikes related to game engine. Frame numbers are useless when comparing, because no frame will be alike.
@DrathVader
@DrathVader 10 місяців тому
This is a horribly, horribly overpriced 4050. Not even a Ti, just a regular 4050.
@haukikannel
@haukikannel 10 місяців тому
Just wait when Nvidia release heavily cut down 4050 for $250! Enjoy! 😂
@cole-nq1ru
@cole-nq1ru 10 місяців тому
Sure, going from cache to VRAM is expensive. But going from VRAM to system RAM is far, far more expensive. No amount of cache will help swapping from RAM.
@GamersNexus
@GamersNexus 10 місяців тому
Correct!
@RicardoSilvaTripcall
@RicardoSilvaTripcall 10 місяців тому
Is it really that bad? Both RAM and GPU are connected directly to the CPU, and you can find even DDR4 with sub 10 nanosecond latency, have you already checked VRAM latency values?
@cole-nq1ru
@cole-nq1ru 10 місяців тому
@@RicardoSilvaTripcall Yes. Cache is on-die (the GPU itself). VRAM is on the same PCB. System RAM you finally involve the CPU and motherboard and PCI lanes. We're talking orders of magnitudes. Think of the GPU going to system RAM like Windows using your SSD as virtual memory. It's that bad. Otherwise discrete GPUs would just use system RAM exclusively.
@RicardoSilvaTripcall
@RicardoSilvaTripcall 10 місяців тому
@@cole-nq1ru of course it is faster, but have you measured the impact? Probably not ... And please, don't compare accessing something on the RAM with something on a SSD ...
@greengenesis
@greengenesis 10 місяців тому
The efficiency is one of the few reasons for a 4060 BUT unfortunately it is NOT as efficient as advertised on paper... they removed the shunts from the pcb so the actual power draw can't be controlled exactly. RESULT actual power draw is more like 130 than 115. SECONDLY, idle power draw as of right now is 50 watts. Yup you read that right for some reason it is not clocking/volting down properly and draws a whopping 50 watt in IDLE....
@rohanlowe
@rohanlowe 10 місяців тому
it would be good to include the 3060 in your power consumption graph, it’s missing. Also, power consumption is an important parameter to judge cooling requirements, aside from $$$ on electricity. I think if I have to buy another couple fans, or increase case size to accomodate a hotter GPU, that additional cost is real and immediate.
@silentferret1049
@silentferret1049 10 місяців тому
Yeah I think people are too up their ass on the die size and all that over the giant power consumption cut while still getting a performance uptake over the old gens. I don't care about 4k at all for any gaming and never will. The 4060 is perfectly fine where it is and people need to get over it. I also like how 30 series and back cards were mostly compared by MSRP or sell price from 1st party sellers but now they are all comparing against used cards now for price. I want a new card then I want a new card with future benefits of DLSS3 and Frame Gen. This is only on the 4060 as every other after is kinda bad to pretty bad. Given how hot CPUs are going now along with hotter GPUs. I would be happy with the 4060 and the more they complain about it being a 4050 makes me want to buy it even more.
@ScottJWaldron
@ScottJWaldron 10 місяців тому
Nice to see numbers compared to a 1060 6gb. 👍 I'm still on one of those and it feels fine for most of what I do (encoding is more important than games for me). It's too bad they gimped this card compared to the 3060 12gb in bus width and total ram. 😢 AV1 encoding is a necessity for whatever I eventually upgrade to... Maybe I'll wait another generation, lol.
@__aceofspades
@__aceofspades 10 місяців тому
A750 is what you want if you can live with 8GB, if you want 16GB the A770. Both have AV1, and encode with higher quality and speed than Nvidia's 4000 series and of course RDNA 3, if encoding is your primary concern, Arc is absolutely for you. A750 has been $200 in the past, A770 is $300. In these benchmarks you can see both cards trade blows with the 4060 and RX 6700.
@ScottJWaldron
@ScottJWaldron 10 місяців тому
@@__aceofspades Yeah, I pretty much agree there that the Intel cards are an interesting option and have a high quality encoder. I've seen they still can occasionally hard crash and something odd happens with the encoder when the cards get fully loaded (vextakes channel's testing). Haven't looked into to much detail on that because my current setup doesn't support for resizable bar. Whenever I can upgrade it's probably going to be a full replacement. Thanks for the feedback!
@FabledGentleman
@FabledGentleman 10 місяців тому
I really want to take a crash course in Steve's 101's Economics class. Where do i sign up? 😁
@niospartan
@niospartan 10 місяців тому
I like the idea of fsr and dlss making older cards more capable and still keep up with modern games not making newer cards weaker and relying on them to be "better" than previous gen.
@sirmidor
@sirmidor 10 місяців тому
Why is the 3070 missing from the benchmark comparisons? You show a couple in the B-roll at 27:40.
@codylundin8656
@codylundin8656 10 місяців тому
Damn, intel arc beat the 4060 in some tests!
@__aceofspades
@__aceofspades 10 місяців тому
The A750 has also been $200 vs the 4060 that starts at $300...
@haukikannel
@haukikannel 10 місяців тому
The problem is… in some. In general even 4060 is much faster than 770… 😢
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