Big2Planker but what’s the actual difference ? Bigger size screen, more maps, I wouldn’t be able to use the touch screen with gloves on, and every cyclist usually wears gloves so I just opted for the 530. Everything is the same internally and on the device and you can still use an external battery pack for longer rides. Maybe the battery life is slightly longer ? But is it worth the extra £200 ?

Bxckdoor Hey,so a few points: I’ve never had a problem navigating screens on the 1030 with gloves, as long as you get the ones with the fibers (or silicone) in the finger tips. Regarding the new device, clearly it’s an iterative step up, however the screen is perceptible better, response between screens is 2x as fast, maps are pre-loaded (not extra) and the power management seems to be better. Selling the old version to a friend for €300 makes it an easy upgrade, IMO.

There are special cycling gloves that you can use for touchscreens. Assos has them anyway. No matter what, if you can buy this device, such gloves should not be a problem either.

If you click on the On/Off button you can lock the screen, maybe this may help with anything touching the screen & also easier to then clean as well

I went with a Wahoo Roam and had a Garmin watch before jumping more into cycling so still prefer Wahoo.

Max, can you explain why? I'm interested mostly on GPS navigation features and I think Garmin wins in that department

In comparison with my old garmin 520 I had just bad navigation futures, trying once and was off the track, but device was all... General thing why wahoo is- easy screen organization, specially future of zoom in and out the data fields. In have roam and a size is enough to show 11 fields which I can really read during ride, garmin 520 has smaller screen and for easy read I put only 3 fields of data on each page(I have no issues with vision:) ) more on garmin was too small. And quite often I listed thru my page(luck of device as well), and I start find my metric again. Screen itself on roam way better on the sun, actually I can’t remember the time when I can’t read the data, garmin has glossy screen which reflects sun. Both devices are good, but for my tasks wahoo

Max Kabaykin Yes never looked back once free of the GARMIN gremlins, hassles, and “Customer Service”.

I’ll probably switch to Wahoo when my 520 gives up

Yes, I am missing this from all reviews I have seen so far or, perhaps the feature does not even exist. Use case: can I add heart rate readings (from a Bluetooth device) to the very navigation screen so that I have both there all the time and don't need to be fiddling with the screen to switch between two different views?

bigger screen, almost double the weight of edge 830, extra "4hrs" battery, 16Gb more storage and...price, that's pretty much it, plus you get all maps excluding Asia. If you rely heavily on navigation, the 1030 or 1030plus is nice with bigger screen, you can see just touch more road ahead, but not a big deal with compact size of 830, and people don't really miss the bigger screen when navigation come to play

@@avenpace Thanks a lot. Very precise and informative.

It comes with the Garmin extended out-front mount.

1030 you'll never look back

Or sweating profusely

Yes but much slower

Andy Hogg the 530 is really good computer. I personally use a 530 for MTB, road/gravel, and on the trainer.

530 is a cracking unit it does lacks the touch screen so zooming and general navigation are more cumbersome due to all that button pressing if you're ok with that it's excellent.

I was planning on having my local bike shop install the Garmin 830 on my bike w/ a few other adjustments. I just called them and they said that the 1030 Plus is a better buy if you can afford it. I'm upgrading from a Garmin Edge 500, so I'm looking forward to my new 1030+. Call and talk to your local bike shop, they should be able to give you a list of the differences.

There is a setting in the device in which you can indicate the speed at which it pauses. If it is set too high, it can indeed be paused while cycling. I don't know where you can find this setting but we have google for that. I accidentally set it to pause at speeds below 15 kilometers per hour. You just have to set it at 5 kilometers per hour.

@@FRRN1908 i set to 4.5km/hr. So it shouldn't be an issue with regards to that

@@xuweiwen Yes it should not be a problem than. You can also turn off the auto pause. Only problem then is that when you have a real pause you have to hit the pause button.

As far as I am aware the 1030+ will actually re-route you (the 1030 doesn't). I agree it is really annoying when it gives you the make a u-turn prompt! I have the 820 and plan on purchasing the 1030+.

@@spooksy1982 I did move away from Garmin as I wasn't prepared to pay over £500 to get what I would consider a standard feature as rerouting. I've had the hammerhead karoo2 for a few weeks and am super impressed with the navigation ability. Might be worth a look for you also.

The 1030+ has better mapping and navigation than the 1030, plus an improved touchscreen - R

Yes, it's sold in Germany.

then you're not the target market bro

Rich Crompton jajaja is not for you

Then this computer isn’t for you. The Garmin 130 plus might be for you..

@@kieranbarry8193 Obviously! Been cycling for nearly 50 years and managed perfectly well without super high tech. I really enjoy my riding, I like to ride hard but I'm not in the league to compete with the whippersnappers! I'm an ex-competitive swimmer and still built like it, so my huge shoulders aren't exactly aero and my frame is muscle all over, so I'm too heavy to compete on climbs with anyone apart from myself! The level of info I need is perfectly serviced by Garmin watch for the moment!

@@hubchicago6961 Thank You, I reckon you are right!

He is giving you a unbiased review. Who cares if he likes it.

@ 3:17 “and it is really COOL”.....just saying....

Because the GPS is wayyy more accurate. I had to switch off and on my iPhone so it’s gps would work and point me in the right direction when using google maps. Also, your phone isn’t optimised to use GPS so it drains it significantly and carrying a power bank just adds more weight. Yes it’s a short term solution but in the long term it just makes sense to save up money and invest something specifically designed for cycling as it way more accurate, lasts 24 hours - 40 hours with a spare battery pack that’s light, provides wayyyy more accurate cycling metrics and data (I only used strava and told me on my routes I burned 1200 calories when in fact I’m burning 1800 minimum with the heart rate, speed and cadence sensors all attached) , I wear aftershockz aeropexs and it tells me within 800,500,200,150,70 meters turn by turn when to go, tells me when to drink water so I efficiently cycle not wasting my electrolytes and my water quantity so I enough for the end of the ride, training plans, allows me to set up training courses for sprinting and it also has crash incident detection and a bike alarm which is pretty cool. I’ve lost over 10kg in the past 4 months of cycling and glad I’ve got my Garmin 530 with the sensors with me as it really did help me lose weight. I’ve got 20 more kg to go and I’m pretty happy I’ve got something I can rely on always for long distances that I do every day.

If you have a Andoid phone I suggest the Urban Biker app

Bxckdoor thank you for your answer! I think you make a good point with the GPS accuracy, though I never had problems with the accuracy of my iPhone while simply following a preplanned route. For very accurate cycling metrics and data also combined with sensors I think you could be right if you say the Garmin is way better. In terms of weight and power consumption however I would say it ends up being approximately the same. My power bank has 10,000 mA and weighs 160g. I can use Komoot for two days or two 8-9 hour rides with it. Congratulations on your tremendous success on losing weight! If a product like the Garmin has helped you achieve it I believe there is no better reason for buying it no matter what I say. :-)

Phone batteries and power banks will not work in winter if they are too cold. I guess you could try sticking a chemical hand warmer or hot water bottle in your top tube bag but at that point it’s getting a bit ridiculous, isn’t it?

Marli Dunietz I can use my phone on the handlebar without a problem at 5°C for hours. Lower temperatures I haven’t tested so far.

I set mine up this morning and it did take a few minutes to connect, but since then while I've been messing about with it the device connects automatically very quickly every time I turn it on. Not ridden with it yet.

I use my Motorola G7 Power mobile. The battery lasts 3 days, google maps is good enough. The phone (Up till now) has always had G4 coverage for road use. I have a contract which gives me 100gb data, a month, unlimited minutes and unlimited text, all for £15 a month. (Never use it all)a lot cheaper than a new Garmin. £519, no thank you.

@@mikeengland8331 There's no way a cycle computer should cost that much.....👎👎👎👎

Andy Stone if you don’t have the money just don’t buy it...simple

You can still sync routes automatically.

They’re just pulled through like Strava segments now if you plan a route in Strava

Get a better bike?

Funny you say that, because every tech company is immune to hackers....right, makes sense, 200 iq sir.

Wahoo has NO street names on their maps. Really! Wahoo has very little memory. Sucks! Garmin has “light Years” more memory. Also, the touch screen on the 1030 Plus works like a smart phone. Note: If you want to play with your Roam like a flip phone from twenty years ago, you can use your arrow keys to navigate. Also, don’t forget your phone while you are on your ride. You’ll need it to adjust your Roam settings. Hopefully you are not in the middle of a competition. Seriously, I had the Roam and I couldn’t get rid of it fast enough. The Garmin 1030 plus Edge is designed for 2020 technology, not a 1990’s Pac-Man display and basic navigation.

@@Dane801962 Thoughts on the new Karoo 2 from Hammerhead?

@@solefreak2 I have been pretty happy with the 1030 Plus. Although, if I were in the market, I would definitely look into this unit and do some comparisons.